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bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Oct 24, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
Those interested in the specific events which happened on Mount Everest should check out Reel Rock 8. One of the films features video of the confrontation which took place at Camp 2 as well as lengthy interviews with the three western climbers, a number of sherpas and also leaders and guides of the commercial teams. It adds a lot of information about what happened and why.
raymond phule

climber
Oct 24, 2013 - 03:47pm PT
Your replay seem pretty biased.


Why was it that Steck had to leave Nepal but Simone stayed for the rest of the season if Simone was the instigator?

I believe that Steck wanted to leave when they decided to not make the climb. Simone stayed such that he could help people with his rescue helicopter.

I don't believe that any of them had to leave.
raymond phule

climber
Oct 24, 2013 - 04:20pm PT

Do you think that Steck was totally unaware of the agreements in place not to climb while Sherpas were fixing?

I don't know but I guess that he could have been. I don't believe that the climbers outside of the commercial expeditions care that much about the commercial expeditions. Especially not when they planned to climb another route.


And you do you think that Steck did nothing more than climb to the side of the fixing party and then step over the fixed lines? That there were no prior exchanges before the fight?
Yes, because that the information that I have. I don't remember all details in this long thread but I believe that many people thinks that stepping over the fixed lines and being on the wall where enough reasons for the incident.
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Oct 24, 2013 - 04:42pm PT
So, it's all Steck's fault? Did you see the same movie I saw? There was a long segment about how this conflict has been building for years and started way back in 1953 when the British got to sleep upstairs in the British Embassy in Nepal and the Sherpas had to sleep in the garage. There was also some good insights that the younger sherpas are not going to put up with the crap from the expeditions that their older counterparts have been suffering from all these past years.
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Oct 25, 2013 - 01:51am PT
I think what the movie was trying to say was that the apparent overreaction by the Sherpas was because of issues that went all the way back to the first ascent in 1953. More than once the people being interviewed used the words "the straw that broke the camel's back."

If you buy into that logic then it didn't take much for Steck or anybody else to cause a major riot. For that reason I think it is reasonable to say that Steck didn't do anything very significant. I don't think they were trying to make him blameless. I think the movie was trying to say it didn't take much to trigger something that has been brewing for a long, long time.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Oct 25, 2013 - 09:35am PT
Are we still talking about the Sherpa Riot on Everest? The one where a large group of them attacked 3 climbers?
brotherbbock

Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
Oct 25, 2013 - 12:18pm PT
It's all Wool Stick's fault.
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