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Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
May 9, 2013 - 10:39am PT
How about banning guiding on Everest,

Rule 1, no fixed lines..

Rule 2, no sucking "O"

That should clear the herds...

kind of like banning drills on el cap....there is always someone who thinks the rules are stupid or not for them.
WBraun

climber
May 9, 2013 - 10:42am PT
Coz -- "This whole drama is just stupid and over analyzed."

SuperTopo is always like that "stupid and over analyzed"

I was in cafe this morning with James and we were laughing our asses off about the "stupid and over analyzed" bullsh!t about the "Midnight Lightning" chalk "lightning bolt" fiasco ......



coz

Gym climber
Belmont
May 9, 2013 - 10:47am PT
Ah, not everything is stupid Werner, but this is...

And yes the bolt was...

Hawkeye, GFURSELF.
WBraun

climber
May 9, 2013 - 10:54am PT
I know NOT everything is stupid.

Most stuff is not.

I just like to say stupid all the time.

Must be because I'm stupid ..... :-)
coz

Gym climber
Belmont
May 9, 2013 - 11:11am PT
We've noticed Werner.... LOL

Maybe a new word like retarded, would be less stupid.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 9, 2013 - 11:14am PT
ive had great fun here and on the bolt thread! Waddya tawkin bout!?;-)

Im doing a seminar with two guys here this am, they are getting a kick out of some of the am "chyt"..
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
May 9, 2013 - 11:14am PT
I was in cafe this morning with James and we were laughing our asses off about the "stupid and over analyzed" bullsh!t about the "Midnight Lightning" chalk "lightning bolt" fiasco ......

A lot of us just thought it was bad writing + douche move. Not really a complex analysis, but I know of anybody that it's fun to titter over coffee pretending you got everybody's goat!
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
May 9, 2013 - 11:39am PT
Hawkeye, GFURSELF.

class act 4 shore dude.
coz

Gym climber
Belmont
May 9, 2013 - 11:49am PT
Hawkeye,

Not sure who you are, but your bringing up shite from twenty-six years ago to attack my integrity, is quite frankly, being an as#@&%e.

I was only making my feeling on the matter (Everest) felt in a humorous way.

So, as far as I'm concerned you are being a douche bag and an as#@&%e, and from the bottom of my heart go fuk yourself.



Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
May 9, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
^^^^^^^^^
THEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDS ! ! !
Rosamond

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 9, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
Can we get Coz and Hawkeye up on the Khumbu for a cage match?
Rosamond

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 9, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
PS: this kind of stuff is why I rarely visit Supertopo anymore.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
May 9, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
Nah, the soap operas are the best part. From googlepedia:

The General Federation of Nepalese Trade Unions (GEFONT) (Nepali: नेपाल ट्रेड यूनियन महासंघ) is a confederation of 17 national trade union federations. It is politically tied to the Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist-Leninist). GEFONT declares its goal to be "Socialism for the dignified working class and prosperous life".

Trade Unions have existed in Nepal since the All Nepal Trade Union Congress was formed in 1947, but only really came into power after the collapse of the Rana dynasty in 1951 and the movement towards democracy. GEFONT itself was established in 1989 by the Nepal Independent Workers Union, the Independent Transport Workers Association of Nepal, the Nepal Independent Hotel Workers Union and the Trekking Workers Association of Nepal. At the time of its foundation it functioned as the trade union wing of the then underground Communist Party of Nepal (Marxist-Leninist).

(I wrote the head of this union a letter, will get back to you all if he responds)
splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
May 9, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
coz - Simply, if the three super-stars respected the work and respected the days the work was being done, and didn't ignore everyone, solo and crampon through their lines, none of this would have happened, end of story.

Umm, pretty sure that has been our contention, the point some of us have been advancing throughout this debate.

Problem, is, it didn't start with the "the three super-stars", and probably won't end anytime soon. Or certainly wouldn't have, if somebody wouldn't have put their foot down. It was bound to eventually boil over sooner or later as very succinctly stated by Lahkpa Sherpa!

Lhakpa Sherpa - As alluded by others, the fixing team were venting the frustration of all highly skilled and experienced Sherpa climbers who want to feel more respect from their western colleagues. For years they have quietly suffered and endured arrogance displayed from some western guides and professional climbers.
^^ Right from the horses mouth (so to speak). Concise and to the point. Ya can't make it any clearly than that.

DMT - It really is that simple.

Precisely!

May 6, 2013 - 05:21am PT

splitter - This is about respect, plain and simple.

Problem is, some peeps just don't seem to understand that...obviously.

coz - This whole drama is just stupid and over analyzed.


When an culture, or subculture or group of people (however you want to define it) who have been looked down upon, taken advantage of, abused and oppressed for years on end and are finally pressed to take extraordinarily extreme measures to express their discontent, something and somebody needs to be analyzed. Changes need to be made. And the social media has been integral to that process in many ways, it's a powerful tool. There is nothing stupid about people that are at least attempting to do something about it, imo.

And it generally signals that it is time for the world to sit up and take notice!
Burch3y

Mountain climber
San Diego
May 9, 2013 - 02:50pm PT
Splitter, you're a lulzy dude. Not much more I can say on that.

Talk down to me all you want if you're paying me the average annual salary of my country per day.

And I get to climb in the mountains?

amax

Trad climber
san diego
May 9, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
Splitter:
The reality is that communities (both formal and informal) DO and will probably always have influence on individuals.
For example: Lets say WE is a hypothetical community that defines unwritten rules on how routes should be bolted in a certain popular climbing area, lets say JT. YOU (a hypothetical sport climber) feel that modifications must be made to make these routes safer and proceed to make these modifications (lets say add more bolts on classic R routes that cannot be protected with gear - sorry to bring up a topic that was already beaten to death). Now fill the blank space below with your ideas on how this behavior will affect your climbing career at JT :)). Also, try to refrain from acting like a typical keyboard hero and save insulting comments for real life :)





Burch3y

Mountain climber
San Diego
May 9, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
DMT said: Hard way to collect a paycheck.

Great point, as usual

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/05/08/fire-at-westland-billiards-hall/

http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/129839,Policeman-dies-in-roadside-shootout

http://www.nps.gov/mora/parknews/climbing-ranger-dies-during-rescue-attempt.htm
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
May 9, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
Coz and DMT: Thanks for reminding us there is a Zen version of the story. Myself I'm sticking to the Tibetan Vajrayana version. Both get you there.

As for over analyzed, what do you think the social sciences are up to anyway? ;)

And finally about Sherpa wages, the most a Sherpa can make for an Everest expedition is $6,000 for three month's work, including logistical prep and clean up time. That's $67 a day rounded off. Assuming they worked an 8 hour shift that's $8.38 an hour.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
May 9, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
Interesting editorial on explorersweb.com by Monica Piris, a friend of Simone Moro, and written for a book that he is doing.

The title is Where is Climbing Everest Headed?


http://www.explorersweb.com/offsite/?source=http%3A%2F%2Falpenglowexpeditions.com%2Fblog%2Fwhere-climbing-everest-headed&lang=en
Burch3y

Mountain climber
San Diego
May 9, 2013 - 06:28pm PT
Man, those wage figures I had we're way off.

They only make that little?

I change my stance. Chuck those rocks!
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