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lubbockclimber
Trad climber
lubbock,tx
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Apr 28, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
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I've been reading your blog, it sucks a lot. I saw your trip to Texas. Come back and try that Sh#t where I climb pussy.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Apr 28, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
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The lightning bolt has changed over time. I remember the old one, but it took upkeep.
Once I hadn't been to the valley in several years, came back, and it looked very different. It had been totally redrawn.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 28, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
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Why is Base 104 the only one else that knows this?
Is Supertopo stuooopid?
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Apr 29, 2013 - 12:28am PT
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It wouldn't change much if it was reinforced with spray paint.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Apr 29, 2013 - 03:40am PT
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James threads are always fun to read!
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Fishy
climber
Zurich, Switzerland
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Apr 29, 2013 - 06:20am PT
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James, I feel some of your pieces are really well done.
Finding new subjects for powerful or entertaining essays must be really tough.
But this action was really a bad idea.
One doesn't have to speak quietly in a Church; but this respectful tradition is still observed even by visitors or non-religious folk, because it does mean something to others.
I would like to admire you for both your actions and your words. But even the best writing cannot compensate for a subject that is manufacured or artificial, hurtful or disrespectful.
I am looking forward to your next blog entry - another great one I hope.
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Grippa
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Apr 29, 2013 - 09:35am PT
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Good for you James. Way to follow your heart, and go and do. Instead of all the blow hards in here.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Apr 29, 2013 - 11:25am PT
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Good for you James. Way to follow your heart, and go and do. Instead of all the blow hards in here.
-1
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Apr 29, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
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The blog post and OP here smacks of trolling, but I did't want to say that early and ruin the fun.
What's really interesting to me is the bolt itself.
In my romanticized imagination I guessed that when you sent the problem you got to re-trace the bolt to 'keep it going'. And under hundreds of layers of chalk was the remains of JB's original bolt. Maybe I'll keep believing that.
I also like the permanent un-permanence of the medium. That is: chalk drawing is temporary, it won't permanently mar the beauty of the rock nature graciously dropped in the middle of Camp 4, but it is permanent through the loving reapplication of the original image by many like minded climbers, contributing to the history and community artwork it has become.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 29, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
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James, stop skulking around under the cover of night with this ridiculous attention-seeking. Do something useful - like get back in the kitchen, crater-boy, and bake me a pie.
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James
climber
My twin brother's laundry room
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
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Coz-
Mother Nature took off the lightening bolt a few times. Other climbers have erased the bolt before. In both cases, and in my removal, the bolt returned. In the current incarnation, the bolt returned with a little more life to it.
I saw the lightening bolt as a trademark. People focused more on this bit of chalk then the climb or the people who embodied the spirit of it. For the week and a half the bolt was gone, I saw the line that Ron and John fought for, the cool start that Jerry established, and the crimpy face that Ron did.
I've walked by the bolt thousands of times in my decade of living. When the bolt was gone, I got to see more of Columbia.
In my discussions with the people around Yosemite and certainly on Supertopo, I've found that the people who mind don't matter and the people who matter don't mind.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Apr 29, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
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James- you sir, SUCK....
Stop trying to make yourself "Matter" you don't and never will.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Apr 29, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
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I've found that the people who mind don't matter and the people who matter don't mind.
And who are you to decide whose opinion matters and doesn't? What is your criteria? If you want to do good for the community go clean up bathrooms or something. That lightning bolt became something more than just a drawing over time.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 29, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
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James I'm beginning to think that your attitude is far more G-H-E-TT-O
than the bolt could ever be.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Apr 29, 2013 - 02:30pm PT
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James said:
blah blah blah, wank wank wank
Enough spray, where's my pie, boy?
Since you fancy yourself a writer, two points:
1. What "trade", pray tell, was taking place under that "trademark"?
2. Lightning. Unless your tubby ass is on a diet, then it might be "lightening".
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Apr 29, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
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That drawing/watercolor on the previous page is amazing!
James seems like a dude with a good sense of humour & a decent guy who loves climbing. It's obvious though how his inability to apologize to those who were affected more deeply by his actions & grudgingly maintain a stubborness that he is still "right" for doing something that probably wasnt even worth mentioning & then spraying down in multiple outlets don't do him any favors here. James you are right that actions speak louder than words but in this case why were the words so necessary? What did u have to prove by reporting this? If you had posted that you spent the day cleaning all the tick marks in camp 4 & picked up a bunch of tape & butts off the ground in the boulders you would probably be a hero even if u did buff the bolt. It was your delivery that was antagonistic & deservingly, incited this response. Never hurts to say sorry if u piss someone off. I don't mind much really because it is climbing related & a hilarious read although I can see why others would be pissed.
Just to stir the pot a bit though, and not like it matters at all but, u ever climb midnight lightning James?
Guyman, easy on the death wishes.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Apr 29, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
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James, why not do it in the light of day then? If you are so certain of your convictions, why not just do it out in the open instead of tell us after the fact?
If you were really commited to this you would have stood up for what you believe in rather than seeking the cover of darkness.
Edit to agree with Ryan 100%, yes that painting is awesome!
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Apr 29, 2013 - 03:05pm PT
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It used to be if you wanted be recognized in the Climbing WORLD you had to send big...
Now you just do something stupid and post on STopo....
Thank you for the internet Al Gore.
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