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Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
Survival,, YOU of all here should know about "going to WAR", or a "WAR" on terroism.. That is much the reason for the new laws under the NDAA. That is also the reason we drone those in other countries.
So if we are engaged in a "WAR" against radical islam, and the Boston perps admitted defending islam,, this falls directly into the catagory of gitmo and military tribunals. Unless,,,, war isnt really war anymore.

Im NOT for throwing away habeas corpus by ANY STRETCH. But, by definiton we are at WAR,, just ask those that have recently returned from spots like Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.



edit: Dave you bring up good points. But how many people id the Aurora shooter? OBVIOUS to a blind man is obvious no? Im not talking the death of rights or due process.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
May 1, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
There are too many extremists who say that they are on the side of law and order but would jump at the chance to bypass the law and just lynch someone accused of a heinous crime.

That is exactly the voice Ron is representing, villagers with torches.

You know... the gold ole days.


DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
May 1, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
But, by definiton we are at WAR,

You're not at war.

By definition.

DMT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
Obama says we are at WAR.. You may want to consult him..

How many billions of dollars go into clandestine ops here every year now??

We will never know actually,, because they are clandestine. But theres at least fifty sections on the NDAA funding it all.

Fighting, bombings and genocides are now happening around the globe, much by the same we are at "WAR" with. And a guarantee we havent seen the last of attacks in a hood near you by the same enemies we are at "WAR" with.
They just might be that nice muslim neighbor youve known for ten years, that shocks you completely because of his nice warm nature.

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
May 1, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
They just might be that nice muslim neighbor youve known for ten years, that shocks you completely because of his nice warm nature.

What should we do to our nice warm Muslim neighbors, just sit around and WAIT for them to attack us?!!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 1, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
There seems to be confusion over the death of a 16 year old who was born in Denver.

All reports state that the boy was NOT the "target" of the drone attack which killed numerous known al-kay-duh terrorists.

The boy HAPPENED to be with the group.

Abdulrahman al-Awlaki
Anwar Al-Awlaki and Egyptian-born Gihan Mohsen Baker had an American son, born on September 13, 1995, in Denver, named Abdulrahman Anwar Al-Awlaki.[246] Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was killed at the age of 16 in an American drone strike on Friday, October 14, 2011, in Yemen, along with alleged al-Qaeda members.[247] Nine other people were killed in the same CIA-led attack. Among the dead was a 17-year-old cousin of Abdulrahman.[


so Ron, HOW exactly is his death somehow a "failure" of the drone program any more than the unintended deaths of MANY civilians who were are continue to be killed in US drone attacks on al-kay-duhs?

so fuking what if he was "born" in Denver, his al-kay-duh father got him out of the USA as a young child and raised him in Yemen

why is his death SUCH a huge big ass deal to you?
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
Survival,,Darn GUD question isnt it?

"he was so nice, quiet,, never a problem with anyone" has been UNIVERSALLY stated in just about EVERY terrorist found here. And im speaking strictly to the jihaderzz..


Its like my buddies say about Nam.. "Ya never knew which gook was which,, mannn, one day theyd be cool and the next they all be cong."



edit: Norton,, ive answered that THOROUGHLY here. scroll doood..
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 1, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
edit: Norton,, ive answered that THOROUGHLY here. scroll doood..


no, what you have done is constantly criticize your own governments Defense Authorization Act and your big criticism seems to be your personal horror and indignation over the is 16 year old killed in a drone attack.

This ONE aspect of the NDAA is sure a big deal to you, Ron

you keep bringing it up

yet, you never laid out why this particular 16 year old is so special to you, especially so because he was not the target of the drone attack, just happened to be with the group

I am guessing that your "outrage" over this incident is what? ...because you personally think that our intelligence people should NOT have requested that the NDAA contain the authorization that yes we can and will kill anyone, US citizen or not, on US soil or not, IF we have damn good reason to believe that they are participating or planning attacks against America

you damn right that should be in the NDAA, because it does not matter a bit, not even a little, if someone is born in the USA or not, or if is carrying out his terrorist crap IN the USA or not,

ALL Americans, including YOU, ought to support our people when they want every possible authorization to kill the same radical Islamists you rail against
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
gee Norton,, Obama didnt ask me about drones.. Did he ask you?



You keep CORNFUSING normal citizens with jihadists. As far as any that we are engaged in a "WAR" against, they are enemy combatants. Thats why we sen uniformed military personnel thousands of miles from home to shoot weapons of all manner at others.



couchmaster

climber
pdx
May 1, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
Well Norton, the way President Obama and the administration have been able to get the number of innocents lower is to change the way that they classify folks. They now call any 16-80 year old male killed in a drone strike an insurgent.

That the President can and is killing Americans, and in a couple of cases unarmed ones, for just sh#t talking, should shock anyone who believes that the constitutional form of government is good and to be followed. Without the rule of law, what do you wind up with?

This lack of due process in violation of the law via announced legal sophistry, and avoidance of due process, is very very disturbing.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
May 1, 2013 - 06:37pm PT
They now call any 16-80 year old male killed in a drone strike an insurgent.

The oldest trick in the book. When the Palestinians blow up a bus load of Israeli kids, the Palestinians are called terrorists. When Israelis blow up a bus load of Palestinian kids, the Israelis are called commandos.
WBraun

climber
May 1, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
killing terrorists

The only terrorist here is Norton the media lap dog who eats every media story spoon fed to his drug addled pea brain.

At least couchmaster can think for himself instead of these stupid media spoon fed tools like Norton.

Couchmaster don't pay any attention to this stupid fool.

Norton you are an embarrassment to America .......
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 1, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
As a native-born Irishman, I have to point out the terrible irony of everybody in Boston trying to figure out where in Russia these two went for training, when generations of Irish terrorists flew into Logan airport to openly train on AR's and AK's at New England shooting camps.

Or the millions of dollars raised in Boston to buy semtex from Ghadaffi, or the seven tons of guns and ammo that sailed out of Boston harbor on the fishing boat Valhalla, or the boatloads more that were never intercepted?

TE

crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
May 1, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
Frickin Werner. What an as#@&%e. .
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
May 1, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
As a native-born Irishman, I have to point out the terrible irony of everybody in Boston trying to figure out where in Russia these two went for training, when generations of Irish terrorists flew into Logan airport to openly train on AR's and AK's at New England shooting camps.


WTF are you talking about?

White people can't be terrorists.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 1, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
Their principal benefactor.

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
May 1, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
It is just so fun to watch Ron get all you bleeding hearts into a sputtering lather.

Good hobby.

Another politard hooked.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
May 2, 2013 - 12:10am PT
Werner noted:
"Couchmaster don't pay any attention to this stupid fool."

LOL, Werner, but then you replied to him, thus giving him the attention he is seeking. There's a difficult conundrum brother:-)
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
May 2, 2013 - 01:13am PT
Really???

We are still on this subject?

A FIVE YEARS OLD KID JUST KILLED A TWO YEARS OLD.

And we just lost a chance to check backgrounds on gun buyers.

Maybe we should rethink our priorities.

sheesh
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 2, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/01/man-angry-over-boston-bombings-breaks-jaw-of-fcking-muslim-iraq-war-veteran/
Man angry over Boston bombings breaks jaw of ‘f*cking Muslim’ Iraq war veteran

By David Edwards
Wednesday, May 1, 2013 15:35 EDT

Topics: Dahlberg ♦ Emerald Aviation President Ed Dahlberg ♦ Mohamed A. Salim

A 39-year-old Muslim cab driver who served in the Iraq war says that an executive from an aviation company accused him of being a jihadist and broke his jaw in what activists are calling a hate crime.

Mohamed A. Salim told The Washington Post that Emerald Aviation President Ed Dahlberg attacked him after he picked him up at Country Club of Fairfax in Northern Virginia at around 2 a.m. on Friday. Dahlberg had been drinking and was told that he would have to finish his open beer before getting into the cab.

Salim recorded audio of the encounter on his cell phone.


Dahlberg can be heard asking Salim, who emigrated from Somalia, to define “jihad” and then lumping him in with “radical f*#king Muslims blowing people up all over the world.”

“Denounce those motherf*#kers now!” Dahlberg demands. “If you’re a f*#king Muslim flying jets into the f*#king World Trade Center then f*#k you. I will slice your f*#king throat right now.”

After Salim threatens to call 911, Dahlberg can be seen grabbing for the cell phone.

Salim said that Dahlberg left the cab, but then returned and broke his jaw before running into the woods.

Dahlberg was charged with misdemeanor assault and police are determining if charges should be elevated to a felony hate crime. The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) on Monday said that medical records and the 11-minute cell phone recording were being used as evidence in the case.

In a statement, Dahlberg’s attorney, Demetry Pikrallidas, admitted that his client “became rather emotional as the discussion turned to jihad and 9/11, and especially heated on the subject of jihadists who want to harm America.”


Pikrallidas insisted that Dahlberg did not assault Salim.

The website for Dahlberg’s company, Emerald Aviation, was offline for four days of “scheduled maintenance” as of Wednesday afternoon. A cached copy of the website listed him as the president and said he had “20 years experience in the field of business and commercial aviation” and was known for “transparent business transactions and always effectively representing the best interests of his clients.”

Salim is a naturalized U.S. citizen and is an Army Reserve sergeant who has worked in intelligence and as a linguist. He served in Iraq and at the Guantanamo Bay detention center.

“I sacrificed for this country,” Salim told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on Wednesday. “And I myself was fighting the terrorists and I’m against acts of violence. I’m not a terrorist. I’m not a jihadist. I’m American like you.”

“Whether he’s guilty of assault or not is up to a jury to decide, but the video makes it clear that the guy is a bigoted as#@&%e,” Jalopnik’s Patrick George observed on Wednesday. “There’s no excuse for treating someone else this way.”
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