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Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2013 - 09:19pm PT
Thanks to uncle monkey,, the learning from perp b is now over.


question, if we droned a citizen kid for being related to a terrorist in the ME,, how come we havent droned Mums and DADA in Chechnya? They arent even citizens.? Do you think the truth will be told by either?


I have to wonder WTH they were thinking ending the interrogations as they did. And dont say because they can try him for MURDER then, because they could do that through a military tribunal as well. The NDAA 2013 was specifically created for this very thing.

Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
only in yur eyes.. Ive called the gubbmint that since Nixon..


You need banning...
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
Interesting hedge,, i didnt know your friends with criminal gang members. Ill pass this info on to the corresponding offices.. Cuz thats who I spout off about. I Have LOADS of Mexican friends which arent the ones i talk about..If you could ever grasp that concept, id eat glass.

heres some REAL simple facts. Who kills the most Muslims and has for eons? RADICAL ISLAM. who kills more Mexicans per year than anywhere else? Criminal Gangs in Mexico. So really take your racist angle and go dangle it it elsewhere , youve gone way beyond old with it, and in fact yur support and friends have also called you on the crap. So you set there and just keep on a hatin for what ever the hell you want, because truly,, i cant do anything more to see you look like an ass than to just keep watching you post.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Apr 26, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
Ron

Ever hear of the Council for National Policy (CNP)

First take a look of the usual suspects and how they play in our government. A couple of them are dead.

Their first meeting in ‘81, I was living in Canada at the time and something was slipped under my door, “Strange why me?” Better question by who? Never opened the door since I was preoccupied and did not notice. When seeing the letter at first notice I did but no one there. Lived on top floor only four condos and knew the other three for sure not them so will never know.

“Members are instructed not to refer to the organization by name, to protect against leaks.”

Hell! It was their first meeting people make mistakes but see they changed things I think it had to do to a young Muslim and me.

Need to leave right now Friday you know but will get back to you about what’s to come in the future with these wonderful people and by the way hit the name Erik Prince where it says mother of Erik Prince. Ah! Notice Oly baby can’t miss it. Think I posted Prince’s name a couple days ago.

After dinner sat alone at the hotel bar General Singlaub sees me sits down with his aid the discussion was quite interesting. I will try not to make it too long.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
Lost,, yeah,, isnt that some elitist right/religious combo striving for political power like all the rest? If so yes ive heard of them..
WBraun

climber
Apr 26, 2013 - 09:55pm PT
FBI write up.

http://cryptome.org/2013/04/tsarnaev-complaint.pdf

Then these pages are NOT for sensitive people (warning)

http://cryptome.org/2013-info/04/boston-bombs-02/boston-bombs-02.htm

Degaine

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 06:50am PT
coz wrote:
The wars in the ME by the USA where self defense, in reaction to 9/11.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

The hijackers were Saudi and Egyptian.
Degaine

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 06:54am PT
ron anderson wrote:
The main difference is ,, that from what i see,, christians arent engaged in world wide mayhem..

GW Bush pretty much declared the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions as Christianity against Islam.


ron anderson wrote:
And if you mean i stereo type radical islam,, well yeah,, there is only ONE radical islam.

Actually, it isn't. Hizbollah, the PLO, Hamas, etc., are not extremists for the same reasons. Islam is cover for the underlying geo-political tension/conflict.

F'ckinA, Ron, pick up a book or a newspaper once in a while.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 10:19am PT
Degaine,, of course there are many different facets and organizations. But they all have the same "allah". Whatever they do under the guise of that is none the less radical islam as much as any other. As evidenced recently in Boston by Chechen's.
Degaine

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 10:48am PT
Hezbollah is Shiite and Hamas is Sunni.

But if I get the gist of what you're saying is that the protestant terrorism of the Ku Klux Klan in the USA and the Catholic terrorism of the IRA in Great Britain is all just the same "radical Christianity"?

What about the genocide in the Sudan? Two groups of Muslim faith involved. You'd have to know about the history of the area to understand that Islam had nothing to do with that conflict.

You just don't try to dig or think about things any deeper than scratching the Fox News surface, do you?
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 10:53am PT
Not talking about the Sudan conflicts. Im not talking about the Buddhists and muslim conflict either. Im talking about two Chechens who "defended islam" or 19 plane-jackers, or a Ft Hood person that killed for "allah".
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Apr 27, 2013 - 11:03am PT

Coz climbs 5.14. I know this because he told me. Several times.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 27, 2013 - 11:07am PT
The wars in the ME by the USA where self defense, in reaction to 9/11

I thought that was just their bullshit excuse.
Degaine

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 11:30am PT
ron anderson wrote:
Not talking about the Sudan conflicts. Im not talking about the Buddhists and muslim conflict either. Im talking about two Chechens who "defended islam" or 19 plane-jackers, or a Ft Hood person that killed for "allah".


So what you're writing in the above is that they're not all the same, right?

In other words we can't just make the sweeping "all attacks and conflicts are radical Islam" generalization, right? Each has its own geopolitical specifics, so it would be stupid (and unsafe) to approach everything with the same strategy and through the same lens, wouldn't it?
Degaine

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 11:33am PT
ron anderson wrote:
Now,, as for your Yahoo.com answer to true muslim, all i will suggest is READING the Qua-ran.. Then get back to me.


So you've read the Koran in it's original Arabic, right? And you have a strong grasp of 7th century Arabic, I assume (you know, as to not misinterpret expressions and all).

I probably shouldn't assume, it makes an ass out of you and me.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 11:38am PT
Degaine,, I suppose you going to tell me how that book is one of peace now?

Yet this book is used as the catchall isnt it? I mean they will riot and kill of any "jokes" made about it right?


Obama loves to take a quote from that book in an effort to exemplify the peaceful nature of that book, yet the quote he uses is meant for JEWS, and NOT people of islam.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 27, 2013 - 12:00pm PT
...picking up book or newspaper narrowly averted!!!!
Degaine

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
Ron,

You're asking people to read the Koran, but have you actually read the book or haven't you?

It's like Christians quoting the Old Testament as the literal truth, but have only actually read the thing in modern English instead of the original Hebrew (which is really an Aramaic dialect) and putting the expressions in the original Hebrew into their context. A simple example would be the number 40 coming up a lot, which was a number used to basically indicate "a long time". (40-day flood, 40 years in the desert, ...).

I'm not trying to refute that certain Muslim communities don't overreact to political cartoons depicting the prophet Mohamed in an unflattering way.

However, you seem to easily dismiss the violent parts of the Old Testament - stoning, animal sacrifice, et al, - as no longer applicable, as do many of the proclaimed religious in here do, and no one (other than one or two anti-semites on supertopo) attributes the violent Israeli policy in the occupied Palestine to violence in the Torah.

Yet for some illogical reason you attribute episodes of violence committed by a few Muslims to a small portion of the translated texts of a book written centuries ago (a book that you have not even read), and then generalize about not only the 1.5 billion Muslims across the planet (who most live in India, China, and Indonesia) as well as the extremist groups committing their violence in the name of Islam.

This radical ignorance on your part is just fine with guys like GW Bush and Cheney, because it allows them to (wrongly) invade countries in the Middle East like Iraq with your full and unquestioning support.
Degaine

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 12:08pm PT
ricky wrote:
Coz climbs 5.14. I know this because he told me. Several times.


Not sure why you wrote this. Coz clearly is an experienced climber, guide, and rigger.

He has my respect and my ear when it comes to climbing( and climbing equipment).

But he doesn't know jack sh#t about the Middle East, and I would say he almost as dangerously ignorant as ron anderson.
WBraun

climber
Apr 27, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
Read this sh!t ...?

http://www.madcowprod.com/2013/04/26/boston-bombers-uncle-married-daughter-of-top-cia-official/
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