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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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It's good we can see the beauty and booty in those things. I'm pretty good at it. It's a tradtional sense I have. There's nothing quite like the ring of a pin. Personally, I never though pin scars were all that ugly. They were sure unseamly though!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Music to our ears Dan, won't be heard by many any more.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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What's that bird in Yosemite that sounds like somebody banging on a bong.....or were those bongs?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Ah the sounds of Yosemite in the early 70's.....LSD, mescaline and peyote induced, nothing quite like them.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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RGold said:
How, in a sane lexicographic world, could that be anything other than traditional climbing?
Way to be cogent dude!
Now that's the way to parse it like a Philadelphia lawyer!
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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The main thing here is to stay 6 posts ahead of the
Old people... give it up (OT)
thread.
My sentiment exactly.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Ah the sounds of Yosemite in the early 70's.....LSD, mescaline and peyote induced, nothing quite like them.
From the sounds of it, Viagra makes things chime. I can still get up it though, so I'm holding off.
Cool video. I'm working on my endurance so I can do some of that stuff in my dreams.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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It's real climbing where you carry all that crap on yer rack and in yer pack. It's real climbing where you don't have a topo, and look Ma - no Beta! It's real climbing were you have not talked to everyone under the sun about what's up there. Yer on yer own. That's trad.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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I suppose. You got to keep trying one way or another - that's trad. If all else fails, get the aid-slings out - that's trad. I'm going to explode again.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Yeah, I'm just being flip. If you were on a 'real' climb though, like doing some first ascent in the back-country, you didn't lower down to the base of the pitch and start over. That would have been lunacy. You just kept trying from where you fell to or whatever. If you had to pull on gear though, you didn't lie to your friends and say you did it free.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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So can anybody define "trad" in 25 words or less? I'll give you 50.
OK - 100, but that's it.
WTF IS trad climbing anyway?
It's the way Stannard and others of his generation established FAs back in the day.
1) That's only 15 words.
2) What do I win?
Curt
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Resting on gear while freeclimbing? Not even considered.
Correct.
Curt
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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And if I recall, jstan etal were pretty damn picky about exactly how those routes got done - how they were protected, how the moves were figured out - that nit picky stuff.
A lot more people than just the 'Chosen' few cared about this stuff. Lets not turn trad climbing into more glorification of the golden years boys.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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You know what it is Kevin.
As we established upthread, this particular climb from the OP in question is a ""headpoint”, which is only traditional, at best, for brits. It’s neither trad nor sport. Not that complicated after all.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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A lot more people than just the 'Chosen' few cared about this stuff. Lets not turn trad climbing into more glorification of the golden years boys.
Uh, I believe we're looking for the definition of the term... Not whether you or others also conformed to it.
Curt
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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unwashed masses
Yer really somethin man.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Sure do, sounds like you have an Alter in your home you kneel at to worship our righteous fathers.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Snob. Did I spell that one correctly?
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