Who invented modern reverse-curve pick Ice tools?

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RDB

Social climber
wa
Feb 24, 2013 - 01:39am PT
"From the posts in this thread an observation one might make is that it was Hamish McInnes and his Terro that made the biggest impression on modern ice and mixed climbing."

Here is a second answer to the same question. Hopefully the picture will be more definative.



In effect not a lot has changed from the original Terrodactyls. The handles and picks have gotten longer and more ergonomic but past that...really not much. Slight improvements on the Terro...not all that impressive when you look at the actual lineage. Biggest advantage is the additional clearence that has been with each new generation.

As a comparison Black Diamond offers 4 technical tools. All with about a 2 degree change in pick angle between each of the 4 tools. About 10 degrees over all last I heard. (Reactor, Viper, Cobra Fusion) No where near that much differeence between the originals Terros, the Chacal and the Nomic.

Anyone that originally climbed hard with a Terrordactyl could very easily switch to a current Nomic and climb much, much harder with a lot less effort. And.....more security. If you liked a Terro, a new Ergo would make you think it true bliss by comparison. At some point the newest tools just becomes cheating :) But even the Ergo is just a Terro with more clearence than a Nomic.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 24, 2013 - 07:51am PT
I placed 2 pins with my quarks on the upper part of this route yesterday. Isa could not clean them with her Nomics;) I had to rap the route to get my Iron back ;)...
My 1st lead of Orcs and Goblins WI4+M4
My 1st lead of Orcs and Goblins WI4+M4
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Orcs and Goblins 4+M4
Orcs and Goblins 4+M4
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tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 24, 2013 - 07:55am PT
I feel that the biggest difference is Not the clearence but the grips and knuckle protectors.
RDB

Social climber
wa
Feb 24, 2013 - 02:12pm PT

Certainly some advantages to the newest grips...but that is ergonomics. Clearing buldges, good sticks and easy hooking? That is the radical clearence in the shaft of the newest tools.

:)



http://coldthistle.blogspot.com/2012/08/i-have-now-actually-seen-newest-lwt.html
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
Put some taper on those hammer heads and they could make some nice chocks.
RDB

Social climber
wa
Feb 24, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
Chock? There actually is .05" of taper bottom to top on the hammer face just for that reason.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 24, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
The Hexentric Anvil will have its day...
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