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Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 11, 2013 - 05:37am PT
Up late working, heard cars revving fast, screeching brakes, and about 10 gun shots. I'm working on the floor instead of the couch now. This weekend I looked at a potential house purchase in an area with "good schools" relatively speaking for short commute... there was a murder 2 blocks away last month, about the time of evening that folks might walk their dogs before going to bed.

Ooh... now we got the helicopters flying over to check things out.

Jim Henson's Basement
Feb 11, 2013 - 09:17am PT
Erik mentioned you would be looking for a place. Where are you looking?
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:16am PT
Meanwhile, out on the shaggy fringe.
Meanwhile, out on the shaggy fringe.
Credit: Spider Savage

Trad climber
Feb 11, 2013 - 11:53am PT
i get that excitement regularly living up here. you didnt need to move that far if gritty, authentic urban hipster environment was what you were after


Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Feb 11, 2013 - 11:55am PT
Around here we call it Hell A

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Feb 11, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
You should get outta there and buy my house in Ridgway . . . much quieter and safer here.

Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
Feb 11, 2013 - 12:12pm PT

Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2013 - 01:51pm PT
Yeah KLK, definitely action within a few miles of where I lived before, but it was nice and quiet north of Indian Rock.

Maidy, where I'm looking now (near Silver Lake)... unsolved murder last month, 5 shots to the chest, on the path that kids would walk to school and two blocks from a house I liked. People pay a premium for Franklin Avenue Elementary. A mile away, ducking in my own home (temporary rental) when 10 shots fired, and it's not a big enough deal to show up on the news. Seeking info to make sense of it, read about other parents explaining gun violence to their 5 year old kids when they witness dudes jump out of a car and fire repeatedly into a house, or babies catching stray bullets or dudes walking with their kids catching stray bullets. But those events are at least half a mile farther away. Complaining about it makes you a gentrified hipster, not like the old-school cool locals who accept living amidst violence.

I'm not this urban. I grew up catching lizards with pieces of grass, or tarantulas. Not bullets. Does the desire for a kid-friendly neighborhood with a short commute time and no hydro-fracking count as a First World Problem? Dammit, maybe I am a hipster. I do drive a Prius, and I do have a beard. But so far I refuse to wear tight pants or elf shoes. Except in climbing gyms.

I should have just got rich being a porn star?

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 11, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
What would your porn-film name be...? Nutjob...?

Trad climber
Yosemite, ca
Feb 11, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
It was probably just the LAPD firing upon innocent civilians thinking they were Chris Dorner

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Feb 11, 2013 - 02:04pm PT
I'm confused by all of these "place" threads.....by LA do you mean Los Anchorage?

Trad climber
under the sea
Feb 11, 2013 - 02:42pm PT
Welcome to LA you'll fit right in ya Nut!

Hope to meet you out at stoney sometime ;) come tue/thur afternoon/evenings if you can. pretty empty these days cuz it gets dark so early, will pick up in early march after daylight savings change.

I have a friend who lives in silverlake and he seems to like it, but he is tucked away somewhere nice. Cheers-

can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Feb 11, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
The trick to living in the LA area is living in a nice community and having as little drive time/hassles/angst as possible. Check out the Alta/Pasadena area. Where you're at and what's a 20 or 30 minute drive away can be worlds apart
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Feb 11, 2013 - 03:12pm PT
can't say is right. If you wanted urban, you found it in the Silverlake area. I mean it's nice and cosmopolitan, but it's edgy and that's always a potential downside of edgy. Berkeley and Oakland have nice neighborhoods too, but no one would or should be surprised by nearby crime.

Definitely other areas of LA with good schools and far less crime. Pasadena is better than Altadena, but both are pretty good. Calabasas, La Canada, Manhattan and Redondo Beach, El Segundo. I live in Westchester, which is boring, hence safe, but the schools are just 'meh', but you could certainly do worse. Lots of places I'm sure I'm missing. Keep looking. They're out there.

Lake Tahoe
Feb 11, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
I recall working on a haunted house in the yard of my friends mom's place when we were "kids." That was back in 1993 I think. We were so cool that we got on local TV and in the newspapers. In fact, we were one of a few places listed in an article on the front page of the Times. On page three was an article about a six year old girl who caught a stray bullet from a drive-by.


Maybe if the media culture changed, the street culture might change a bit too.

I now life above 7000 feet at Lake Tahoe. Bears are a big concern these days. It's as if the bears are killing six-year-old's in bear-by eatings or something.


Social climber
Feb 11, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
Silver Lake, Echo Park, are newly gentrifying areas that were not so long ago pretty questionable.

Move out. Seal Beach is dead quiet and has lots of nice neighborhoods and pretty good schools.

Social climber
Feb 11, 2013 - 03:32pm PT

Trad climber
Yosemite, ca
Feb 11, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
North Hollywood.

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 11, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
Seal Beach...? I heard the seals have become problems like the tahoe bears...?
Steve L

Gym climber
Feb 11, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
I don’t know dude. Sounds like you’re looking in a pretty nice area. Franklin Elementary is essentially Los Feliz. Crime and murders can happen anywhere, but I don’t think that area sees many random bullets flying through the air. The whole stray bullet thing happens, sure, but its pretty f*#king rare, even in bad areas, let alone Silverlake/Los Feliz. I don’t know anything about the case, but 5 in the chest sounds like the victim was a deliberate target, not some poor schmuck out for a jog.

Ghetto birds and gun shots were normal around Echo Park in the 80s. You only really paid attention when they were close. Some of my little neighborhood friends grew up, joined gangs, got shot, did time, whatever. I turned out ok though. Why? Because I had parents that gave a f*#k. What is going on outside your home matters less than what is going on inside. Teach your kids well, and they’ll be all right. Kids have good instincts, and if you give them a good base at home, they’ll quickly learn how to stay safe when you’re not around. In all honesty, I think growing up in that type of environment gave me a clear advantage over other kids from “safer” neighborhoods. That became glaringly obvious in high school. My parents shipped me off to an all boys catholic school in La Cañada. I still lived in LA, but commuted up the 2 every morning. 95% of the guys there were from wealthy La Cañada or one of the other foothill communities. The rest were like me, from LA, Eagle Rock, Highland Park, places like that. Holy sh#t, the sheltered La Cañada kids were lame. They were easily taken advantage of, intimidated, very immature, etc. I saw the same thing at Cal, then again in the professional world. My previous firm had a pretty robust internship to hire program. It was incredibly obvious which kids came from privilege. Yeah, they had great resumes – ivy league schools, academic awards, more extra-curricular activities than you can think of – but no common sense. No ability to determine when they needed to be aggressive, or when to lay back to get something done. No ability to read people. No ability to sense when they were getting f*#ked. We never wanted one of those kids on our team. A kid that came from a shitty area, but made it through a top school, or a kid with military experience, or a rich kid whose parents cut off after high school, those are the ones you wanted to work with. They knew how to get sh#t done.
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