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Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 28, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
That brutal East Co sun baked it off.

Actually no, steam power washers were rented and it was taken care of by clean up crews.


And as far as not getting a response by the authorities, you first have to know which "authorities" to contact. Santee Boulders is considered "open space" and is in San Diego Police jurisdiction, not San Diego County Sheriff, as one would first assume. I've been on my cell phone out at the boulders a number of times in a 3 way conversation with both San Diego police and San Diego County Sheriff dispatch while they argued over who's jurisdiction it was. After a phone call I've watched SDPD send out 4 wheel drive Broncos, both during daylight and at night, including 1 of there helicopters to help round up off roaders who parked there lifted four wheel drive on top of the Aid Seam/Synchronicity Boulder, then took off on their motorcycles up into the hills. It was quite a sight to watch the Bronco escorting the 2 motorcycles back to their truck with the helicopter hovering above. A couple of fathers brought their sons out to the boulders to practice their paintball strategies 1 day. After politely explaining the history of the area to the father's, and that the moving objects on the rocks were actually PEOPLE, they moved the team further away to another hill. All in all I've had a pretty good success rate in having the authorities respond out there, and when having discussions with those that need to be educated. My observation though, over the years as an older adult, has been that most climbers do not take a proactive approach and just watch the activities take place, and then murmur about it as they continue to boulder, just as I did when I was younger.

The canyon to the east of the boulders is marked by a sign out at the road, prohibiting off road activity due to a very real danger of unexploded ordnance (UXO), from when the area was used as military training ground back in the 40's and 50's as part of Camp Elliott.

An interesting read on future plans for the areas:
http://www.sandiego.gov/planning/community/profiles/eastelliott/
Josh Higgins

Trad climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2013 - 12:27am PT
You validate my opinion that calling the police/sheriff is worthless. It's BOTH their jurisdiction, and instead of agreeing to help immediately, they argued over jurisdiction. In our case, they just take the call, hang up, and never even respond.

Edit: Question - Does the Sheriff NOT have jurisdiction where SDPD covers? Or do they have jurisdiction of the entire county, but don't typically patrol where SDPD does to limit overlap/inefficiency?

2nd Edit:

The department provides specialized regional services to the entire county, including the incorporated cities and the unincorporated areas of the county.

The San Diego County Charter requires the San Diego Sheriff's Department to provide San Diego County with efficient and effective police protection, and to perform all of the duties required by law.

From http://www.sdsheriff.net/

My interpretation is that is that I'm right, they both have jurisdiction...

Josh
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Mar 1, 2013 - 12:54am PT
Anybody else remember when some local toads poured motor oil all over the Ampihtheater?


That must have been right before my first visit and first impression of the area. I wasn't impressed, and never went back.

Discovering Rainbow around the same time pretty much closed the deal.

Santee does have its appeal, and good effort on the cleanup, Josh.




Now if you could get ACSD to work on opening access to San Diego's best climbing area instead of obstructing the effort ...
Josh Higgins

Trad climber
San Diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
Kevin,

I'll bring it up with the board at the next meeting and see what they have to say, although for the most part I'm relatively ignorant of all the issues regarding the area. Are you still climbing out there?

Josh
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Mar 1, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
Josh,

Email sent
matty

Trad climber
under the sea
Mar 1, 2013 - 02:25pm PT
Great job Josh and crew. Way to get it done, thanks!
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