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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2013 - 11:51am PT
This thread wasn't posted as an Us And Them thread at all, but more as an Us Is Us, We Are We, We're all in this together thread.

We've always been divided over certain issues, but came together when the chips were down.

I have many incredible friends that I disagree with strongly about a number of issues. But still I would fight for them and their right to believe the way they believe. They would do the same for me.

We've made it this far. I have kids who I want to have a great life in a great country.

I was raised in Indian and Eskimo villages, by parents who didn't have a racist bone in their bodies. That's saying something for the times they were raised in. If I would've walked around with a "White Is Right" attitude, I would've had my ass kicked many times over.

Donald, if you can't see your way forward to a white/brown/yellow/black/straight/gay/male/female world, then you are truly lost.

*Our president and one Supreme Court member are black.
*Our secretary of state and three members of the Supreme Court are female.
*One Supreme Court justice is Hispanic.
*One is Sicilian.
*Two are of Jewish descent.
*All of them are the descendants of immigrants.

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can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Jan 23, 2013 - 11:52am PT
When imbibing always try to keep your drinking associates as varied as possible. It keeps the organic party element snappin.
L-R, Deadeye, a good ole boy from NC, myself, Staggerin Lee Otis, one ...
L-R, Deadeye, a good ole boy from NC, myself, Staggerin Lee Otis, one of the nicest mo-fo's I've ever met, Chicago's S. Side and his friend who's name I forgot.
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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
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Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Jan 23, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
My father is missing four top front teeth. He wears a set of false teeth, but takes it out at night.

Without his front teeth, he looks like one mean sonofabitch.

He is a tough sonofabitch -- a marine corps veteran, and worked hard blue-collar labor all his life.

But there's nothing mean about him.

I know very little about how he lost his teeth. When I was young, he told me:

"I got on bus, everyone else on the bus was black, I should have kept my mouth shut."

I never asked again, and he never spoke of it again.

He has never shown any malice towards other races. Although he did enjoy an occasional off-color joke.

My children, my father's grandchildren, seem to know nothing of race. I have never heard them speak of race. They have friends of all colors. Of course they see the difference. And yet they don't know to put them into categories.

I am very optimistic.





survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
Me too Dave.



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My mom with her Codetalker friend.
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moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 23, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
My children, my father's grandchildren, seem to know nothing of race. I have never heard them speak of race. They have friends of all colors. Of course they see the difference. And yet they don't know to put them into categories.

I am very optimistic.

Same with my children, they don't discriminate. They are the future.


My daughter with her friends:

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ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Jan 23, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
My son in Aida at The Denver School of the Arts, 2008

He's now an actor/writer/singer/rapper/cook/mover in New York (Brooklyn), livin the life.

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abrams

Sport climber
Jan 23, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
change perspective change the world
change perspective change the world
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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2013 - 11:55am PT
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Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 25, 2013 - 12:55am PT
Graduation day. West Point. 2011.





survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2013 - 06:07am PT
Straight up awesome Chaz!





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Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Jan 25, 2013 - 06:44am PT
One Sicilian
My father, born in  Sicily.
My father, born in Sicily.
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My mom
My mom
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creating an American family.
My Dad's retirement party &#40;1989&#41;
My Dad's retirement party (1989)
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QITNL

climber
Jan 25, 2013 - 06:48am PT
Cool.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Jan 25, 2013 - 10:19am PT


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kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 25, 2013 - 10:42am PT
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Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Jan 25, 2013 - 11:18am PT
This thread wasn't posted as an Us And Them thread at all, but more as an Us Is Us, We Are We, We're all in this together thread.

I appreciate your sentiments and attempts. But the sad reality is that America's heydays are over.

50% of the Americans don't like having a black President
50% of Americans believe a woman's place is in the kitchen
50% of Americans don't want no damn immigrants in this country
50% of Americans want to impose a Christian version of Sharia
50% of Americans try to block any social justice or progress

My grandparents were illiterate immigrants and served in the US Army. My parents went to college. My father is a Korean War veteran. I am a veteran of the Gulf War. My brother is a lawyer and I am a doctor.

Grandpa in the US Army in World War I
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We had one of the first Naval Aviation classes with women
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Sierra Ledge Rat on his combat jet on the deck of the aircraft carrier...
Sierra Ledge Rat on his combat jet on the deck of the aircraft carrier U.S.S. John F. Kennedy.
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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jan 25, 2013 - 11:30am PT
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Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Jan 25, 2013 - 11:31am PT
I appreciate your sentiments and attempts. But the sad reality is that America's heydays are over.

50% of the Americans don't like having a black President
50% of Americans believe a woman's place is in the kitchen
50% of Americans don't want no damn immigrants in this country
50% of Americans want to impose a Christian version of Sharia
50% of Americans try to block any social justice or progress

I don't follow that logic at all.

You need to define "heyday"

It's common to think of America's "heyday" as the 1950/60s, when our economic power seemed to be unchallenged.

But back then, the percentages you cite above were much higher.

I don't think "heyday" should be measured by economic power or cultural influence. So the US dominated the auto industry in the 1950s, and won the space race in the 1960s - good times, for some, but IMO not the important measures of success.

I claim your numbers above are off -- all the above are much lower than 50% today.

And the trend is positive.

Our heyday is NOW -- it's what we make of every day that matters.

And there are many more to come...


Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Jan 25, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
The BGI Cognitive Genomics Project is currently doing whole-genome sequencing of 1,000 very-high-IQ people around the world, hunting for sets of sets of IQ-predicting alleles. I know because I recently contributed my DNA to the project, not fully understanding the implications. These IQ gene-sets will be found eventually—but will probably be used mostly in China, for China. Potentially, the results would allow all Chinese couples to maximize the intelligence of their offspring by selecting among their own fertilized eggs for the one or two that include the highest likelihood of the highest intelligence. Given the Mendelian genetic lottery, the kids produced by any one couple typically differ by 5 to 15 IQ points. So this method of "preimplantation embryo selection" might allow IQ within every Chinese family to increase by 5 to 15 IQ points per generation. After a couple of generations, it would be game over for Western global competitiveness.

Geoffrey Miller
Chinese Eugenics
http://www.edge.org/responses/q2013
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