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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 22, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
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The United States of America is damn incredible. Every size, shape and idea you can think of.
We ALL have our good points.
We've got a lot of work to do, to live up to our own expectations, and those of the world.
Surely we can find a few things to agree on?
C'mon folks, show me the diversity of my country.
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ruppell
climber
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Jan 22, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
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I think this forum shows it pretty well. lol Bet we all can agree on that.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jan 22, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
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Hear, hear!
John
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jan 22, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
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From reading around here you'd think we were all flaming homosexual pinko socialists or racist one toothed hillbillies.
But it's not like that at all!!
The internet has turned us into screaming as#@&%es.....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
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My only issue with this thread is that you chose marines instead of soldiers for the opening shot.
Did you say soldiers?
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jan 22, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
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L to R - Aunt, wife, cousin's wife, Uncle
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 22, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
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Was out with my Bosnian friend Sat. He's lived in France and England but from the lips of a man who just voted in his first Presidential election :
"America's the best!"
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
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Wow, there's some diversity ydpl8s!!
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ruppell
climber
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Jan 22, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jan 22, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
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Yeah Survival, 2 phd Biologists, a pharmacist and an author/psychotherapist :-)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
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2 phd Biologists, a pharmacist and an author/psychotherapist :-)
Oh yeah? Well we've got a ditch digger, a busboy and a pool specialist, so STFU!!! HA!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
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WOOO HOOO!!!
God bless the good ol' down home straight laced windy road carnival funhouse multi-colored melting pot acid trip train wreck monster truck mosh pit polka dance that is MY COUNTRY!!!
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Gene
climber
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Jan 22, 2013 - 05:43pm PT
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God bless the good ol' down home straight laced windy road carnival funhouse multi-colored melting pot acid trip train wreck monster truck mosh pit polka dance that is MY COUNTRY!!!
+1
An observation: We have two Chinese students staying with us this semester while going to a local high school. Due to the one child policy back home, they have 4 grandparents, 2 parents and 0 siblings, aunts, uncles or cousins. I can't imagine what that must be like.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 22, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
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Gene, it could be awesome at Christmas, no?
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Jan 22, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
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Good thing I was Army :)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jan 22, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
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Thanks Survival!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 22, 2013 - 09:34pm PT
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Thanks survival, you are an idealist......something we now find in short supply.
The vehemence of right wing radio hosts and the tea party fanatics is encouraging.....it signifys the rage and pain of the growing realization they have that they are on the wrong side of history.
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ruppell
climber
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Jan 22, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
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FYI the country was FOUNDED by screaming as#@&%es and has made it a tradition, since. You know this....
Traitors to the core. It's actually a prime example of what happens when you win a war. Be it over tea or access to mineral rights or taxation or the other hundreds of things wars are waged over. The one resounded effect is if you win you are right. The little people(in this case Britain) walk away with there tail between their legs asking themselves one resounding question "What the hell?" We are(where in this case) the imperial power. How on earth did we just get the boot? We(americans((stupid americans as werner would say)) learned that same thing in many "wars" we fought. Korea, Vietnam, Irag. The results have varied but the one underlying truth is still there. Little people will rise up and fight like the devil to keep invading nations from gaining a say. So maybe the idea of "America" isn't such a new thing after all. Maybe, just maybe, it's an old idea with a new name.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 22, 2013 - 09:56pm PT
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The one resounded effect is if you win you are right.
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jan 22, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Jan 22, 2013 - 10:17pm PT
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Tried to find this pic without the banners but couldn't. It's a very interesting picture nonetheless, and these guys are certainly a part of the color of our country.
Unfortunately the soldier on the stretcher died.
Edited to add: I found the image without the banners but as the image has circulated so widely with the banners I thought I'd post it both ways.
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ruppell
climber
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Jan 23, 2013 - 12:57am PT
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Donald
You can be diverse and economically successful. The two are not mutually exclusive. Ask anyone from Brazil.
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ruppell
climber
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:25am PT
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I specifically chose Brazil because it is not the best example. I figured you would pick up on that. I also figured you would attack with some incredible zeal. I'd say comparing the US in 4 years to the current current state of Brazil is more than I could have hoped for. Now that your arrogance is out of the way do you have anything else to say?
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Rolfr
Social climber
North Vancouver BC
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:26am PT
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It may be the color of your country, but it sure aint the color of this sport. Give your head a shake , look at the photos on this site. I don't see a lot of people of colour in the photos, or economically underpriveladed first generation immigrants.
If you want to wave your flag and brag about your ethnic diversity, start right here in your own back yard, recognize what a middle class white bread privilaged sport this is, and get involved in making it more accessabile.
When your living hand to mouth and worried about putting food on your table, you sure don't waste money on an $80.00 climbing cam!
Wave your flag some where else!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2013 - 02:24am PT
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Wave your flag some where else!
Well rolfr from BC, I've climbed with a black American, an Asian American, an Italian American, American Indians, women, gays, shitloads of people that couldn't afford helmet cams and more, so I'll wave my flag right here thank you.
But the point wasn't about how diverse climbing is or how wrong donald is, but about how wide and wonderful the country is. But I guess you did miss the point.
Notice I included cops and firemen and farmers and military people so you wouldn't think it was a "only" thread?
I didn't mention any political stuff at all in fact.
So take your sour puss somewhere else.
Some middle class white bread climber who never tried to make the world a better place......
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roadman
climber
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Jan 23, 2013 - 03:18am PT
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If you want to love the United States more and feel the true greatness of our country....Move to another country. You'll see how amazing our country is in every way. Of the people by the people for the people.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2013 - 04:19am PT
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But as long as the low-information voter has his/her cell phone , social media, celebrity stars, and self-congratulatory assurances that they live in a multi-cultural multi- racial 60s utopia- then all the problems have been solved.
Thereby assuring us that you, the mighty donald, are the only high information voter of true greatness.
Thank you.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 23, 2013 - 04:19am PT
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low-information voter
Precisely what most red state republican voters are and they have been repeatedly manipulated and incited to a shrill indignation by several decades of highly successful Rovian (Pavlovian) social manipulation. You stand as a testimony to its effectiveness. The indignification of the right has been a masterstroke of political low thinking. It has been targeted not at a diverse America, but to white America. After the 2012 elections it is now a permanently bankrupt political strategy in an increasingly diverse America where the young are blind to race and sexual orientation. Good riddance.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 23, 2013 - 05:01am PT
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Why? Because the social/ cultural objectives of the baby boomer socialists has been realized.
Not at all, but rather because forty years of an explicitly-stated republican political strategy built on racism, homophobia, sexism, and xenophobia has now been soundly repudiated. There's absolutely nothing baby boomer or socialist about it, but rather just a party whose only truly effective campaign currency has been hate.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Jan 23, 2013 - 05:51am PT
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Survival posted this thread to show the diversity of the USA. Other democratic countries also have diversity.
But some knee-jerks on this thread want to use it to rail against... whatever their rant is. You know who you are.
Saying that this country will be in the doldrums in the next four years is a bit outrageous.
Yes, I live abroad. But I have always been proud to be an American. And I have a rich heritage of being an American. (With all due respect to other people of the Americas.)
Thanks Survival, great thread.
To the naysayers, why don't you go elsewhere if you want to be so negative..
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 23, 2013 - 05:55am PT
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DT: Apparently Mr. Healy has this hippie obsession with Karl Rove, having attempted to associate me with him in another thread. I know very little about Rove , and what I do know I don't like, considering him the type of political consulting class establishment Republican that led to a weak campaigning strategy by Romney.
Another little example of the current radicalized left's obsession with demonizing and marginalizing political opponents instead of getting on with the business of solving the nation's real problems.
Their model is the current President who is solely preoccupied with one thing only: destroying all political opposition.
Of course you don't know much about Rove, that's exactly Rove's genius and so a little education is in order given Karl is THE man behind W's and the republican victories until 2012.
Rove, along with Lee Atwater, and Ralph Reed carried on and embellished Harry S. Dent Sr.'s whole gutter approach to politics designed to produce the deliberate polarization of America we see today and a republican party which has moved so far to the fundamentalist fringe right that it is now in a veritable civil war within its own ranks. That polarization was built on a forty year strategy of 'indignifying' the right via racism, homophobia, sexism and xenophobia. It's been one of the most successful, and lowest, political strategies in modern political history. It was so successful and so low Lee Atwater apologized for it on his deathbed.
Look, any time you hear a phrase like 'radicalized left' these days you can be assured you're hearing it from a member of the radicalized right and brought to you courtesy of Dent, Atwater, Reed, and Rove. But Rove took the tactics to new lows of success and guys like you who swallowed the bait hook, line and sinker are the sad result. It's all humorously a bit like Frankenstein saying, "I don't know much about the Doctor and what I do know, I don't like".
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2013 - 11:51am PT
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This thread wasn't posted as an Us And Them thread at all, but more as an Us Is Us, We Are We, We're all in this together thread.
We've always been divided over certain issues, but came together when the chips were down.
I have many incredible friends that I disagree with strongly about a number of issues. But still I would fight for them and their right to believe the way they believe. They would do the same for me.
We've made it this far. I have kids who I want to have a great life in a great country.
I was raised in Indian and Eskimo villages, by parents who didn't have a racist bone in their bodies. That's saying something for the times they were raised in. If I would've walked around with a "White Is Right" attitude, I would've had my ass kicked many times over.
Donald, if you can't see your way forward to a white/brown/yellow/black/straight/gay/male/female world, then you are truly lost.
*Our president and one Supreme Court member are black.
*Our secretary of state and three members of the Supreme Court are female.
*One Supreme Court justice is Hispanic.
*One is Sicilian.
*Two are of Jewish descent.
*All of them are the descendants of immigrants.
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Jan 23, 2013 - 11:52am PT
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When imbibing always try to keep your drinking associates as varied as possible. It keeps the organic party element snappin.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
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Me too Dave.
My mom with her Codetalker friend.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jan 23, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
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My son in Aida at The Denver School of the Arts, 2008
He's now an actor/writer/singer/rapper/cook/mover in New York (Brooklyn), livin the life.
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abrams
Sport climber
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Jan 23, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2013 - 11:55am PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2013 - 11:58am PT
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 25, 2013 - 12:55am PT
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Graduation day. West Point. 2011.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2013 - 06:07am PT
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Straight up awesome Chaz!
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Jan 25, 2013 - 06:44am PT
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One Sicilian
meets one Texan
creating an American family.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Jan 25, 2013 - 10:42am PT
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jan 25, 2013 - 11:18am PT
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This thread wasn't posted as an Us And Them thread at all, but more as an Us Is Us, We Are We, We're all in this together thread.
I appreciate your sentiments and attempts. But the sad reality is that America's heydays are over.
50% of the Americans don't like having a black President
50% of Americans believe a woman's place is in the kitchen
50% of Americans don't want no damn immigrants in this country
50% of Americans want to impose a Christian version of Sharia
50% of Americans try to block any social justice or progress
My grandparents were illiterate immigrants and served in the US Army. My parents went to college. My father is a Korean War veteran. I am a veteran of the Gulf War. My brother is a lawyer and I am a doctor.
Grandpa in the US Army in World War I
We had one of the first Naval Aviation classes with women
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 25, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
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A couple more from West Point graduation day, 2011:
The lady is the sister of the grad wearing a white shirt in the last shot I posted, and her brother is the middle guy in the shot before thst. ( great smiles run in the family ). The guy in these two shots is my cousin, Brad.
( I didn't take these photos, but I'm in both of them. Look for the bald headed white guy wearing a tan golf shirt )
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:09am PT
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I still see Paisley...It's a vast mishmash.
We just forget to live Paisley, sometimes.
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Rolfr
Social climber
North Vancouver BC
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:29am PT
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Hey Survival.
“I didn't mention any political stuff at all in fact.
So take your sour puss somewhere else.”
I thought this was a climbing forum , when you open a patriotic political thread, expect some opposing viewpoints. I live 6 months a year in Canada and 6 in the US, my sour puss will comment equally on both countries.
Excuse me if I find your thread patronizing , but I guess you just want ethnic confirmation not opposition .
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John M
climber
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:50am PT
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Excuse me if I find your thread patronizing ,
Now what burr got under your saddle blanket? what in blue blazes is wrong with people right now. Bruce is one of the good guys.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
I love this video... I found it because Hankster posted the Lush at the beach version.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:58am PT
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I'm getting a sense of "diversity envy" from Rolfr.
We ( The United States Of America ) did the racial outreach. Now, we are enjoying the benefits of a fully diverse society.
Canada needs to step up to the plate, and do the same outreach to minorities that Americans have, if they want to have a truly diverse society, like ours.
If Canadians don't want a diverse society, then I guess it's up to them. Maybe they like it that everybody they see every day is white, like they are. Apparently they do, because they haven't done the required outreach to minorities neeed to change their national demographic, like we have here in The United States.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Jan 26, 2013 - 12:59am PT
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Walk, stumble, fall.
Get up.
Walk.
Repeat.
What color is that? It's a wondrous Paisley. Wondrous!
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Rolfr
Social climber
North Vancouver BC
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Jan 26, 2013 - 01:09am PT
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This is a thread about our magnificent and diverse country.. Screw the rest of the dribble..Ive had kin die in every skirmish from the revolutionary war to desert storm. Weve a right to be proud.
Well i’ve had kin die in concentration camps by flag waving nationalists , so i’ll keep spewing my dribble , Bubba. Thanks for making my point on tolerance for opposing viewpoints.
Chaz , I don’t have diversity envy, I am part of the Canadian diversity!
And thank you Captain, I'm Paisley too.
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John M
climber
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Jan 26, 2013 - 01:27am PT
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tolerance for opposing viewpoints????? you were the one all bummed out and spreading the negativity. I'm just confused about why people have to take a thread started by someone good like Bruce and turn it into some political statement when it wasn't meant as such. Thats all. If you have to have a negative view, then go for it. But it would be nice if once in awhile we could just chill. I think thats all Bruce was shooting for. He isn't stupid. He knows that the world is full of nasty sh#t. And he definitely isn't for blind obedience to some nationalistic call. So maybe try chilling a little and watch the video I posted. The songs saweeet, even if some of the pictures are a bit cheesy.
But whatever dude. I hope things are going okay for you.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 04:05am PT
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but I guess you just want ethnic confirmation not opposition .
Whatever man. Actually, you told me to take my flag waving elsewhere first, on my thread. I merely returned the favor.
I don't remember requiring you to participate in the first place.
Besides, I stated in the OP that we had a lot to do to live up to the expectations of ourselves and the world. I've posted bikers, punks, homeless people, dirt poor American Indians and more. Does that really qualify as mindless flag waving nationalism? Me thinks not.
We've all had ancestors die at the hands of as#@&%es. I had relatives escape from Germany, and relatives that died in the Civil War, even one who died on Bataan Death March. Does that make me more American than you are? Me thinks not.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
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A tip of the hat to Dave Kos, thanks man.
For you, an American "sandwich", if you will....
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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More form graduation day, West Point, 2011.
"Mom. Why are you crying?"
"Because now your DE-PLOY-A-BLE"
"That's the whole idea, Mom"
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ThomasKeefer
Trad climber
San Diego
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CHAZ
Nice shots... USMA is not a bad second choice for those who could not get into USNA ;)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2013 - 12:58am PT
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Nice shots... USMA is not a bad second choice for those who could not get into USNA ;)
OUCH!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2014 - 08:51am PT
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"Mom. Why are you crying?"
"Because now your DE-PLOY-A-BLE"
"That's the whole idea, Mom"
Similar to a conversation I had with Rusty Preston when he passed Army Ranger school. (I was still a long haired hippy at the time)
Me: Wow Rusty, this means if the sh#t hits the fan, you'll be sent.
Rusty: You don't get it. I don't want to go, I want to go first....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2014 - 09:47am PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2014 - 10:14am PT
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Tami!!! How is your son doing in the Navy?
He's a submariner, is that right? Picture please?
Does he have his tats yet?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2014 - 10:29am PT
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F*#kin' AAAAA!
Damn right. You've gotta be a proud mom. Believe me woman, I know what getting through some of those schools takes.
I'm proud of him from way over here in sunny CA!
Can I be on his team?
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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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Aug 21, 2014 - 10:40am PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2014 - 10:51am PT
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Tami, no thread hijack, no worries.
I'm a hippy dirtbag, who ended up in the military, and I'm still proud of it.
Your son will carry things from this through his whole life. Mostly good I hope.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2016 - 07:12am PT
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In the face of an election that includes nominating Donald "I alone can fix this." Trump as the flag bearer for the Republican party, there is no better time to resurrect this thread.
One of my old military friends recently made a comment about certain groups of people getting out of "our" country. I had to ask exactly who the "our" in our country was. And of course it didn't include illegal immigrants, (many of whom have been allowed and encouraged to serve in our armed forces, and then deported at their first brush with the law), Muslims, and gays.
This thread recognizes and applauds all sizes, shapes and flavors of Americans.
My hope is that we will hand Trump and his brand of politics an epic defeat in November. It will probably be closer than I like, because there is so much hatred for Clinton, but I do believe he will go down. This is important, and seems more important than any election I remember.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2017 - 08:44am PT
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Known to many throughout the Spokane region for his work helping at various sacred ceremonies and veterans’ events, Army veteran Glen Douglas will be missed. Douglas, 84, died recently after battling a long illness.
He was born on the Okanogan Reserve in Canada, a Lakes-Okanogan Indian and part of the Colville Tribe. An article in the Spokesman Review newspaper relates how he was taken from his home at age 12 and sent to a boarding school in Cranbrook, British Columbia. “We were beaten for speaking our language. They were beating the devil out of me,” Douglas was reported saying during an interview in 2004. He was later to receive monetary reimbursement from the Canadian government for that period of his life.
Eric Loer, Colville/Spokane, referred to Douglas as, “My best friend. He was my uncle.” He also was aware of Douglas’ experience at the boarding school. He said simply, “It was very bad!”
Douglas moved to the U.S. when he was 14 where he worked on his uncle’s ranch near Oroville, Washington and joined the U.S. Army when he was just 17, the start of a long and distinguished career that saw him take part in three wars: World War II, the Korean War, and Vietnam.
“He was in the Army with the 101st Airborne most of the time,” Loer said. He reported to Fort Lewis, Washington in May of 1944 and joined the 101st in Belgium in 1945. During the 2004 interview Douglas said he was injured by a grenade in 1953 during the Korean War. During his first tour in Vietnam he was an intelligence analyst with a Special Forces team.
John Davis is the homeless coordinator for the Spokane Veteran Affairs and knew Douglas very well. “He adopted me into his family and I called him ‘uncle’ too. I’d do anything for him.”
“Glen was a mentor and a role model. He was well versed. He could speak very eloquently. He was a leader, not only from the military but from his own people,” Davis commented. “He flew all over Canada and the U.S. talking about Native American culture. He would dress in full regalia and was a very impressive figure, a man who had many military honors and a highly decorated veteran.”
Three Combat Infantry Badges (WWII,Korea, Vietnam) Silver Star, Multiple Bronze Stars, Multiple Purple Hearts, Senior Jump Wings.
And then to transition into native spiritual leader, the definition of badass.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Mar 22, 2017 - 08:59am PT
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Thanks for posting that, survival.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Mar 22, 2017 - 12:20pm PT
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A true Hero....
TFPU
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Mar 22, 2017 - 02:36pm PT
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Thanks for the thread.
I wonder what effect the results of the election have on your faith/belief in our country as the open-minded inclusive place that you originally described, especially as it relates to your hope that we would defeat Trump?
My sense is that our beliefs about the place (and about ourselves) probably don't match the reality, but maybe our false beliefs - our misunderstanding of who we are and what our country is - helps us become who we want to be.
Just because our actions say that we're not open and inclusive (or the climate scientists say climate change is real) doesn't mean that we have to believe it. IMHO, this believing thing can be pretty tricky.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2017 - 08:10pm PT
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Roy Benavidez was called a dumb Mexican as a child.
It was May 2nd, 1968 near the Vietnamese and Cambodian border. SSgt Roy Benavidez heard about a twelve-man unit that was surrounded by enemy fire. He voluntarily jumped on a helicopter to help recover his comrades. He didn’t have a weapon of his own. The rescue copter couldn’t land because of all the bullets flying, so Benavidez jumped out of the copter while suspended 15 to 20 feet in the air and a 100 yards away from the fight.
A few strides into the rescue mission and Roy was shot in his leg. He fell, got back up and continued towards his friends. 75 yards later Benavidez was down again, this time due to shrapnel from a grenade. He crawled the rest of the way into the perimeter. Once in the perimeter, SSgt Benavidez took command, repositioning the troops and calling in air support right on top of them. After hours of fighting, a helicopter was finally able to land.
Benavidez then shifted his focus into loading the injured men and classified material aboard the copter. During one of his many trips, Roy Benavidez engaged in hand to hand combat with an enemy combatant. Roy was only 5'6" but that didn’t stop him from killing that combatant. After that fight within the fight, one of the pilots witnessed Roy’s intestines visible outside of his body. That still didn’t stop Roy from continuing to go back for another trip; he would leave no man behind. Eventually, it was recorded that Roy had over 30 wounds to his body. He finally collapsed, soaked in blood on the helicopter.
He held his own intestines on the flight back to base.
Roy Benavidez was awarded the Medal of Honor. Yaqui Indian Warrior.
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