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Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jan 12, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
You know, Donini can't reply much tonight. I just saw a recent shot of him talking down at the Ice Fest in Ouray with Jeff Lowe.

Tony Bird

Northridge, CA
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:55am PT
no, i didn't watch the video. like i say, way too many links and videos on here, and no one seems to be able to communicate otherwise. i'm assuming it's what i can read on the page--charles manson lending his considerable influence and prestige to the 9/11 truth movement. since we're talking about evolution on this thread, i also assume it's just another little pebble being lobbed my way. or are we working charles manson into the evolution debate? since you have so much time to watch all these things, monolith, why don't you tell us what it's about? i guess you just rushed back here after finding the answer to your question about hilbert transformations on i was expecting the next post to be "hannibal lechter's presidential picks".

and while i've got your attention, you and graniteclimber--same guy, right?

evolution is an avocation of mine too, eeyonkee. your post also shows an inclination to insult others (me, for instance), and i think, to put it in your words, that you are "severely lacking in your understanding" of many aspects of evolution. take note there--two important differences in our rhetoric. i said, "i think you are" and you said, "you are". i said "aspects of evolution" and you said "evolution".

by the way, i must apologize again for confusing you with moosedrool. i may not know much, but i should be expected to be able to count toes on ungulates.

it seems that we had riley on here adhering to a random mutation point of view as the engine of evolution. then we had someone post a paper--i believe it was moosedrool--which seemed to bolster my point of view, that there is an actively experimental aspect, simply because adaptation seems to take place so quickly. would you care to address that, eeyonkee?
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jan 13, 2013 - 11:49am PT
Nothing personal I hope Tony, you are putting yourself in the center of this thread and advocating multiple crazy ideas at the same time. But you are in good company anyway:

Earth to Tom: Rescue Us

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Jan 13, 2013 - 11:59am PT
hahaha, I've thought that myself... but then, I am not "here" to talk about physics or any other science, I'm "here" for climbing (and I find I'm less and less "here" because of the lack of it).

I agree with you Ed. As a New Years resolution I've decided to limit my posts on here. It's sad what Supertopo has become. I wonder when Chris will pull the plug.

Jan 13, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
This place is not a peer review site just opinions and loose general discussions.

You guys take yourselves so seriously you lose your whole experience.

People put all kinds of ideas opinions and whatnot on this site and some of you go ballistics with a fascist agenda of being right.

That's why I always display the sarcastic line "Americans are Stupid" to further infuriate the fools who fall for that line ......

Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
"Americans are Sutpid" - I disagree, although some may be.

Anyway, thanks for not including us Canuckleheads in that.

Jan 13, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
Canadians are Stupid tooooooo ....... :-)

Jan 13, 2013 - 12:51pm PT
Proves my point ^^^^^^

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
and i'll say it again, it's refreshing to have a polish fellow accusing so many others of stupidity.

Are you Polish Herr Braun ;)
Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
"And it's Bad, Bad, Werner Braun,
Baddest man in the whole damn town..."

(to the tune of "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown")

Jan 13, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
moosedrool -- That's zbrowns quote

I have no clue what he's referring to ....
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
eeyonkee, it's a tough row to hoe, eh? :)

Here's what I've learned (or here's what's been reinforced) from participating here:

If there's this much misunderstanding / miscommunication from posting (which is a written system) you can just imagine how much there was long long ago amongst our ancient forebears before written systems were invented or before they evolved. And you can just imagine how much this led to violence.

Participating here is a reminder of why, back in the day, it was wise NOT to discuss religion or politics esp outside your tribe or family.

Supertopo forum, thanks for the lessons.


Hypothesis: Better understanding, along with better communication systems, lead to a decline of violence.

May or may not be a correct hypothesis, I think.

Jan 13, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
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Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 13, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
WBraun, it was Tony Bird's quotation.

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 13, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
Werner: a fascist agenda of being right.

Pretty humorous coming from the everyone is stupid except the Vedic fairy tales guy.

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 13, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
An egocentric claim, but he's certainly a symptom.

And so also is his claim on the title.

Ice climber
the ghost
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:10pm PT
Vedic fairy tales
nutbar religion implies nutbar person
Tony Bird

Northridge, CA
Jan 14, 2013 - 10:11am PT
i dunno, don paul--you were the one putting charles manson's support of 9/11 conspiracy theory on here--and then telling us you couldn't understand what he said.

at the risk of being ruthlessly slaughtered by scientific peers, i will venture that this thread is approaching critical mass. before we all climb onto andy divine's bronco ride, i'd like to have two thing clarified: are monolith and graniteclimber identical entities? is moosedrool italian or polish?

Jan 14, 2013 - 10:15am PT
When you watch the 13 second video, Tony, you might understand why you look like a paranoid fool. He says nothing about 911.

Tony Bird

Northridge, CA
Jan 14, 2013 - 10:19am PT
i'll make you a deal, monolith. i'll watch don paul's 13 seconds of truth if you'll answer my question truthfully. you will have to be able to convince me, however, that you are not lying.
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