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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 23, 2012 - 02:31pm PT
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Just another cross-sectional representation of modern society, with a climbing emphasis. No more accepting or compassionate than the rest.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 23, 2012 - 02:32pm PT
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Ummm, ok.
Leave if you must.
Come back when you feel like it.
Who are you again?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Dec 23, 2012 - 02:41pm PT
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If you can't take the heat...
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 23, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
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Sorry you feel that way - some threads can bring out the worst in people. However I might liken your experience to visiting Florence and shopping at the WalMart there. You're not focusing on what can matter, but you got hooked... I don't mean to be condescending when I say this, so I apologize for my lack of vocabulary to express myself, but more self control might be needed from time to time. I might be one of the worst examples of this, scan through my post history and you'll see some pretty dumb sh#t.
I put up a few threads recently, they are kinda dorky but at least climbing related. People seemed genuinely happy about life in them, too - and one has climbing pictures!
see ya 'round.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Dec 23, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
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GDavis has a point.
He posted some annoying stuff when he first showed up, but maturity coupled with a learning curve has prevailed and I've read some quality words written by him lately.
I too probably fall into this category, less the climbing content(damn you ACL).
But, if you're going to fly off the handle about guns, on either side of the spectrum, prepare to get harassed mercilessly.
You show your hand as young and brash. While those are good qualities to have, they don't apply as well to the Internet.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Dec 23, 2012 - 03:05pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
and thanks for deleting all those gun posts! you might give people the wrong impression about yourself ;-)
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Dec 23, 2012 - 03:13pm PT
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You mean this isn't a leukemia survivor support forum?
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Dec 23, 2012 - 03:14pm PT
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It seems pretty pointless to argue on the interweb. I guess some people just like to hear themselves type.
It's the boobs, puppies, and climbing that keep me coming back.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2013 - 02:27am PT
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Jeezus.
So here I am again. Why? Because in between all the bullshit there are a few morsels of useful information. Yeah, it's the boobs thread. Actually, it's more like: "What I've learned about me ('cause, you know, it's all about me): I'm an asshoel. 'cause I left. Then I came back. Etc, etc, ect.
Useful information from this site (and others):
1. Routes, beta, closures and whatnot
2. How-tos on technique, gear comparison, and recommendations
3. Half a dozen of you are helpful. The rest (including myself) are prone to spraying personal opinions, drama, and general crap.
4. Nobody gives a crap what I think, say, or do. 'cause I"m not famous like lots of other people here, or even like Snooky (which would actually give my opinions more weight than being a famous climber, regarding climbing matters especially.
5. Guns rock. Guns suck. I've got some. Maybe you don't. It's a personal choice and it's going to stay that way. They're going to ban some. They're going to leave us some. Get over it.
6. Bolts rock. Bolts suck. I've got some. Maybe you don't. It's a personal choice and it's going to stay that way. They're banned in some places. They're unethical in many places. They are the cause of more wars and discontent than guns. Guns don't start wars. Bolts do. Get over it.
7. You've got way too much time on your hands if you're reading this. Other people are out climbing. They're using bolt guns over there to place their bolts. It's a war zone, don't you know? Get a gun! Protect yer bolts!
Who am I? I'm nobody. Just another asshoel with a late-blooming interest in climbing who got lured into this site by the accidental and erroneous belief that climbers had some special juju that made them more compassionate and welcoming than the rest of our general population. Oops... my bad. Hell, y'all can't so much as decide on whether it's ethical to climb with rubber souls!
So here's how it is for me now:
1. I'll be around, lurking. Post a question here and there for technical advice.
2. No more politics, guns, religion, or much in the way of personal opinions from me. It's all bullsh#t. My opinion means dick. So does yours.
3. I'm taking my dog to the crag.
4. I'm taking my gun to the crag.
5. I'm taking my crying baby to the crag, or at least a boombox.
6. I'll have the crag all to my lonesom. See 3, 4, and 5 above.
7. Crags suck. There are other climbers there. They have beta and opinions.
8. People suck. They go climbing. Then they fcuk it up by bolting, chopping, bitching about it. They forget how to enjoy life, and think of themselves as generous, prophetic, godly, and humble... all the while judging everything around them and shunning the new guy like the plague. Then they advise him (or her) to find a mentor. Really? Step up. Be it.
9. Climbers are people. See 8 above.
10. I'm not even up to "climber" status. I'm just a people. See 8 above.
So yeah, when you see some dipshit with a screaming kid, Cujo, and a 12gauge stick-clip wearing a full-on aid rack down at yer local 5.4 top-rope, that'd be me, looking to pin up some hard times with soft iron and a mean beer-mosa.
Oh yeah, almost forgot....
Lookin' for a mentor. PM me here.
yer gona dye!
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Jan 11, 2013 - 02:37am PT
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yawn.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 11, 2013 - 03:21am PT
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*snore*
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Jan 11, 2013 - 04:18am PT
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yawn.
Says it all. +1
Welcome back, I guess. Have fun until you decide it's all crap and leave again.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Jan 11, 2013 - 04:29am PT
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yer gona dye!
FAIL
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ruppell
climber
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Jan 11, 2013 - 04:31am PT
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For $150 / hour, I'll consider it.
Must be a typo. I'm sure he meant day. And goodbye. again.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 11, 2013 - 04:31am PT
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This thread has potential already!
Welcome to the rat race n00b.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jan 11, 2013 - 04:46am PT
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You spelled as#@&%e asshoel, I thought that was funny. As to the OP yeah the shopping at walmart in Florence seems like your general MO & a hilarious analogy I like Gdavis & Brandon's posts. I looked at your posts & you have posted on some climbing threads- It's not too late, just start reading and posting on climbing threads more often, contribute to positive conversations when possible, ask the thousands of years of combined climbing experience on this site some questions, I don't think there's anywhere on earth with the collective climbing related experience & resources as the members of the forum. If you pay attention you might learn something. There are options for other discussions too, like the ones you must have found. Clicking on these are not for everyone & doing so is making a bed for yourself that you will have to sleep in at some point.
like most I'm a Hypocrite as well and say dumb sh#t here all the time but its hardly worth a tantrum look at me ploy like this. Go climbing, take some photos, write a little TR. I think you will be surprised at the positivity you may encounter. If you act like an asshoel people will treat you like an asshoel. Good luck out there
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Jan 11, 2013 - 08:44am PT
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the accidental and erroneous belief that climbers had some special juju that made them more compassionate and welcoming than the rest of our general population
nope, just people.
Hello, it's me
I've thought about us for a long, long time
Maybe I think too much but something's wrong
There's something here that doesn't last too long...
I'll come around to see you once in a while
Or if I ever need a reason to smile (Todd Rungren)
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:07am PT
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Welcome back!
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Jan 11, 2013 - 09:35am PT
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I can't encourage you to stick around. The general tone of Supertopo has dropped to the level of a snotty 8th grader. Bullies predominate, and there is a common theme of cowardice- Rather than think and discuss ideas in a respectful manner, many choose to snipe and then run and hide, glorying in their chicanery. Ho Ho Ho--I sure put that guy down--Ho Ho Ho.
This results in a thinning out of people like yourselves who certainly have better things to do than be shouted down. The end result is a higher concentration of rude people and an increase in their tactics.
A good example is the first person who responded--It should be interesting to see if he has the back bone to apologize.
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