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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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if you're not ready, you're not ready...
take your time and heal up right, both body and soul...
you won't have any problem climbing once you're ready
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Hopefully you saw a top notch neurologist after your seizure? I ask because the term "Grand Mal" is antiquated, so if some doc diagnosed your event as such, well, you just never know.
A total seizure of the brain causing both convulsions and blacking out at the same time is a tonic / clonic seizure.
I have had a seizure disorder since 2007. It came as quite a surprise, not a pleasant one. I got back to climbing fairly quickly at first - I underwent a treatment and felt better. Then they came back worse, two years later, and I had to step away from everything for a while. Now I am okay but still taking a med to prevent seizures. There are a lot of these meds and finding the right one for me was a crux. Some of them really suck.
Anyway I hope you are well, but I also hope you have investigated the cause of your seizure as thoroughly as you can.
I used to think that one is only as good a climber as what you can do on demand right now (I think I said I was a cocky sob on another thread. True.) Now I understand that nobody can take away from you that which you have done. So just relax and go to the crags when you feel it. You'll be climbing again in no time.
Want to see some great ideas about weight loos? Check out Mark's Daily Apple. Google it, this is not a sales link.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
bouldering
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I am not scared to go climb ... I've had alot of injuries/ comebacks. One thing that seems effective to me is finding an out-of-the-way area where there is no sceane - no numbers, and no established anything. You are free to start anew with your own ideas away from climbing mores and critisism.
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RP3
Big Wall climber
El Portal/Chapel Hill
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Go try it...start slow. I had a VERY near-death experience about a year ago on Keeler Needle. It changed my perspective on climbing and its role in my life. It took me a while to get back into the game. You are positioned in a spectacular place to slowly re-acclimatize to the vertical world. Go out with friends and family. Experience the glory of the hills and love the world you are in...
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2012 - 04:15am PT
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Thanks for all the replies everyone. Some really solid food for thought here, and it's very appreciated.
The climbing community never ceases to amaze me, this is part of why I love it. Berg heil.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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There is more to getting back, or getting IT back than simply getting back out. This wasn't a sprained ankle. What you faced likely shook your confidence deeply. You have invisible scars still to heal. By "invisible" I mean no one but you can see and feel what injuries you carry with you. Stitches and crutches are obvious to everyone. Neural issues are different and no one else knows what you are facing. Internal anxiety is a tricky issue. For me being hit by lightning was a massive game changer. Not only was my neural system flash poached causing long term difficulties but afterwards the sheer weight of apprehension and anxiety I carried with me was like a crushing haul bag on my back. It took a great deal of time and patience for me to get to the place where a cloudy weather wouldn't just shut me down. Now after the most recent neural issues and multi layer cervical fusion I carry the extra weight of fear and anxiety again. Where before it had been fear of being restruck now it is concern that my body parts will suddenly fail me at the most inopportune moment. Through it all I continued to get out climbing because it was important to me. But it has been very different for me. Now as I pack my crag bag I understand that I am also packing invisible emotional ballast. Extra weight that no one can see but I can surely feel. My motivation has changed considerably. It's not about crushing a proj or a marathon day, it is about having fun with good friends in great places. One pitch, ten pitches or no pitches doesn't matter, as long as I haven't been lit up by lightning or fallen to death and destruction due to an arm or leg failure I see it as a successful and rewarding outing. These days I look at every single climbing experience no matter how seemingly insignificant or unproductive as a successful step in healing. And success builds upon success. Be good to yourself. Be patient with yourself. Take time for your self.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 10, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
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When I get to Vegas on Christmas you will be ready, willing, and in shape for the Hexpedition to Rehabituate, or CC and MFM will literally drag you to the rocks and beat you silly till you agree to lead the first pitch. It's tough love time if ever I heard it!
Be prepared to lead or stand the fuch by, VC.
In the future, minor things like seizures will be mellow. You're like that guy that the old purple people eater wouldn't eat because he was so tough.
So "Sing a boop boop aboopa lopa lum bam boom."
And eat something besides "solid food for thought," for heaven's sake. Twinkies are for Twinks and you ain't no Twink.* You're too ugly.
*Cute young thing with not much upstairs.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Dec 10, 2012 - 01:22pm PT
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Hey Vegasclimber,
I took a pretty scary upside down fall this summer and rung my bell pretty good when I landed on it on a slab. No helmet, but I was ok, just a little shaken up. Obviously this doesn't even compare to your incident, but it took me a couple of days to get my head around going out again.
When I did I wasn't really motivated either but I jumped on an old easy favorite and by the time I reached the top of the pitch I was stoked again! I was still a bit shaky for a couple weeks on certain things after that but with each pitch I felt more comfortable.
Getting out with MFM and Cosmic will be good for you. Fun with friends and good times.. Something tells me a day with those two might be a bit of a laugh riot to boot ;)
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 10, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
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Surround yourself with easy climbs and easy people and you will get your mojo back soon enough.
I have hit the ground hard a couple of times and lost a few partners and had to reflect on the worth of the whole endeavor so you are hardly alone in your considerations.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 10, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
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Hope that helps. (Dream of White Donkeys - Gogarth, Wales)
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2012 - 11:15pm PT
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Done!
Went out today with Cosmic, Johnny Ray and my girl. Couldn't ask for a nicer day. (Edit - Paul was with us too as always, riding in my chalkbag.)
Warmed up on a 5.4 in my approach shoes just for grins, and led a couple soft 8s. TR'd a stellar new 5.8 that just got put up.
Cosmic did great with his unique "tripod climbing" being as his shoulder is still healing. Fun times! Will post a couple pics when my gal is done working with them.
Really appreciate those that took the time to post up here, many thanks.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Dec 24, 2012 - 11:19pm PT
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Well, you're "that dude", man.
I hope you're feelin' it.
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2012 - 11:33pm PT
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Feeling great Skully, thanks. Little sunburned, little windburned, little sore, a lot elated. Like one should after a great day out with friends.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Dec 24, 2012 - 11:36pm PT
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See? That Dude. That dude is inspired, man.
Cheers!
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2012 - 11:47pm PT
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 01:32am PT
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It's an optical illusion due to the rock...gotta admit it's really cool because of that.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 25, 2012 - 01:36am PT
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Center mass, Cosmic, you're a low-life. It changes sh#t around.
I wisht I coulda gone.
I had better things to do.
One week, year is new.
It can wait, but it's hard when you're charged up.
I believe my problem's in the opposite direction, Travis.
Nicely recuperated, I see. What's soft about 5.8? You don't break 8's and 9's down, clown. It's pointless to do so. You can go ahead, though, we know what you mean.
Wow, so glad to see you out and about...Merry Christmas, with mild Taco Sauce!
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 01:45am PT
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Thanks Mouse! We were really looking forward to seeing you here. Merry Christmas to you from Christina and myself.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Dec 25, 2012 - 02:00am PT
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1973 type motivation.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 25, 2012 - 02:03am PT
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Be open to your goals... while certainly wonderful, picking the Nose might just be too arbritrary - do you want to climb it, or do you want to HAVE climbed it? Learn to love the movement, the art, the dance. El Cap is great, but you broke recently... slow down a bit, smell the roses, focus on technique and health and good vibes.
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