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Sredni Vashtar

Social climber
The coastal redwoods
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
I like them Finns, very smart, independent, hard drinkers. they have high school kids that volunteer as tour guides and they have badges with flags representing the languages they speak. these kids speak like 7, 8 languages. over achievers. helsinki also has europes biggest drunk tank.

and the moomins man, i had the books and watched the animated series. freaky stuff.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:41pm PT

And a Finn organized and largely wrote the best operating system in the world: Lunix. I give Linus Torvalds credit for getting the OpenSource software movement going. I keep waiting for him and Dennis Ritchie (posthumously) to get the Nobel Prize for economics for changing the economic landscape of the world while nobody noticed.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
Feliz Indrpants Dagayum Olf Der Finlander dag hiel!!!!

Credit: survival

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:54pm PT
They are tango fanatics, which always struck me as odd for a country not particularly known for passion or intimacy.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 6, 2012 - 02:19pm PT
Unique language origins. Finno-ugric.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Dec 6, 2012 - 02:27pm PT
read Storm of War, a history of ww2 by Andrew Roberts...who knew the Finns kicked the shite out of the soviets early in the war?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 6, 2012 - 02:38pm PT
I did, but thanks anyway George W JR.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 6, 2012 - 02:43pm PT
Why do Scandanavians seem to speak English really really well? Do Scandanavians languages lend themselves to a good accent,do Scandanavians just travel a lot, or is English taught from an early age?

Happy Independence Day, Finland.
hb81

climber
Dec 6, 2012 - 03:14pm PT
Why do Scandanavians seem to speak English really really well? Do Scandanavians languages lend themselves to a good accent,do Scandanavians just travel a lot, or is English taught from an early age?

A lot of it actually has to do with the fact that they don't get any dubbed movies but watch everything in english with subtitles. (even on TV if i remember correctly) Unlike for example Germany, where people seem to think we need horrible german dubs, ja!

Sounds kinda odd, but I've heard this numerous times from different guys from scandinavia.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 6, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
Finnish proverbs

•Ei kaikki kultaa mikä kiiltää eikä kaikki hopeata kuin mikä hohtaa.
•Translation: All that shines is not gold, nor is all silver that gleams.

•Ei kannata mennä merta edemmäs kalaan.
•Literal translation: "One should not go farther than the sea to fish."

•Ei savua ilman tulta.
•Translation: "There's no smoke without fire."

•Ei vahinko tule kello kaulassa.
•Literal translation: "An accident won't arrive with a bell on its neck."
•Translation: "Accidents happen unexpected."

•Ei vanha koira valetta hauku.'
•Idiomatic translation: ”An old dog barks not in vain.”

•Haukkuva koira ei pure.
•Translation: "A barking dog does not bite."

•Helposti saatu on helposti menetetty
•Translation: "What is acquired easily is lost easily"

•Isoja kaloja kannattaa pyytää vaikkei saisikaan.
•Translation: "Big fish are worth of fishing even if you don't catch one"

•"Joka menneitä muistelee, sitä tikulla silmään"
•Translation: "A poke in the eye for those, who dwell on the past"

•"Joka paljon lupaa, se vähän antaa"
•Translation: "Who promises a lot, gives a little"

•Kun menee sutta pakoon, tulee karhu vastaan.
•Literal translation: "When you flee from a wolf, you run into a bear."

•Lika maahan maidostakin.
•Idiomatic translation: "Too much of a thing is good for nothing."

•Maassa maan tavalla.
•Literal translation: "In a country according to its customs."

•Niin makaa, kuin petaa.
•Literal translation: "One sleeps like one makes his bed."
•Translation: "Actions have consequences."

•Niin metsä vastaa kuin sinne huudetaan.
•Literal translation: "The forest answers in the same way one shouts in it."

•"Oma apu paras apu."
•Literal translation: "Own help [is the] best help."
•Translation: "Helping yourself is the best way to help yourself."

•"On taottava silloin kun rauta on kuuma."
•Translation: "Iron must be forged when it is hot."

•"On vähäkin tyhjää parempi."
•Translation: "Little is better than nothing."

•"Paha saa palkkansa."
•Translation: "Evil will get its share(/pay)."

•"Parempi karvas totuus kuin makea valhe."
•Translation: "Better a bitter truth than a sweet lie."
•Swedish equivalent: "An honest 'no' is better than an insincere 'yes'."

•"Parempi pyy pivossa, kuin kymmenen oksalla."
•Literal translation: "Better one hazel grouse in the bag, than ten on the branch."

•Sitä niittää mitä kylvää
•Translation: "You reap what you sow"

•"Suu valehtelee, silmät puhuvat totta."
•Translation: "The mouth lies, but the eyes tell the truth."

•"Tyvestä puuhun noustaan"
•Translation: "A tree is climbed from its base."

Wikiquote

Finns are known for their pragmatism.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 6, 2012 - 03:47pm PT
Try diamonds instead, girl.

Raikkonen was once asked by a journalist why his car broke down and answered "I dunno, ask someone".

Another legendary Finn: Urho Kekkonen
Urho Kekkonen
Urho Kekkonen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urho_Kekkonen

And then a climber: Nalle Hukkataival Ninja Skills (8B+) - from 3:15
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 6, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
Kimi Raikkonen is probably the coolest person ever.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Dec 6, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
Finland is a pretty interesting place. I dated a Finnish woman for about 4 yrs. and got to go back and visit when a friend of hers married a friend of mine. The people are very nice, but very, very reserved and, well, interesting...Lots of drunk people, which the culture really kind of enables, maybe because it's pretty prevalent.

Some are pretty outgoing and friendly, but most others appear to be terminally morose. Social events and bars are kind of wild because every stands around looking glum but at the end of the evening the women will approach a guy if she's interested in some after hours fun. Plus, I think it's probably the only country in the world where you can meet your girlfriend's dad for the first time and the next minute be sitting naked next to him in a sauna. It's a really odd dichotomy.

Ask any Finn about the Winter War (the Finnish assault on Russia at the start of WWII) and they'll tell you loads (in a terse Finnish way). It is way ballsy in the best sort of way war stories are. The general of that assault is even on the currency.

I had a great time visiting. The women in Helsinki are very attractive. Nice musically heritage. Then you get those long summer evenings where everyone is hanging out drinking beer or cider by the lake enjoying the fine weather and birches. It's pretty good.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 6, 2012 - 04:12pm PT
The Winter War - Talvisota - in my view one of the two best war films ever made. The other one being Idi I Smotri.

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 6, 2012 - 04:17pm PT
And the drinking - no smoke without fire - here in a cartoon by Albert Engström
Andersson from Sweden: Don't you mix water in the cognac? <br/>
Nyström fr...
Andersson from Sweden: Don't you mix water in the cognac?
Nyström from Finland: Water in the cognac!?! I'm not a falsifier, am I?
Credit: Marlow
hb81

climber
Dec 6, 2012 - 04:18pm PT
My ex-mother-in-law was German, she had one about God punishing the small things first, or something.

Die kleinen Sünden bestraft der liebe Gott sofort.

translates loosely to "small sins get punished immediately by god"

ususally said when somebody does something minor wrong and then hits his head on something a minute later or stuff like that... you get the idea.
It's not ment too serious.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 6, 2012 - 04:22pm PT
This is a transplanted Finlander in my family, William Carlson. He is the son of my mom's uncle, therefore one of my cousins (I can't remember how to calculate which).

My grandparents emigrated from Finland at the end of the 1800's and my grandfather Jakob was planning to move the whole family back when he died from so-called miner's consumption. I coulda been a native (son).

http://www.udel.edu/research/polar/carlson.html


Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Dec 6, 2012 - 04:29pm PT
Lets discuss the second half of Lollis thread; 'And Other Countries'.

I like Panama. Great people, not too much hype, they run on the USD. Possibly one of the more slept on (underrated, to foreigners who read this) countries I've visited.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 6, 2012 - 04:49pm PT
Donald: Kalevala?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala

Language: Runes?
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 6, 2012 - 04:53pm PT
Finnish composer Jean Sibelius was inspired by Kalevala
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