Paul Ryan's 40 14ers? About as Credible as his 2:50 Marathon


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Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 4, 2012 - 12:43am PT
Update: I found the photo of my dad and I on top of longs, but photobucket is being pissy about letting me post it here . I did get it onto my phone And Facebook.
I think the Romney machine is behind it

Photo is here;

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 4, 2012 - 06:46am PT
wow, this thread is pathetic! you guys should be proud of the most pathetic f*#king losers that ever graced the intardnet! way to go.

Well since CockEye has barfed in this thread now has the stench of the pathetic.

What's the matter, your cod piece too big for your teeny package. If you loathe this thread so much why post to it? Now that is pathetic. You are an arrogantly opinionated pathetic little man.

What exactly didn't President Obama do for you to make you such a bitter boi? Were you unaware that he was a bit occupied saving America from the disastrous eight years of Bushboi's neo-con agenda?

CockEye's ST contributions; No trip reports, no climbing photos, no climbing related posts, no substance. His cause celebre' seems to be Obama Bashing. And yet he feels we are pathetic.

steve shea

Nov 4, 2012 - 11:35am PT
Rick, you must be an attorney. Thanks for reupping this. I did not know what the fuss was about, now I do. I do not usually read political threads. Just remember everyone Ryan also believes a child born of rape is a gift from god. That is a disqualifier right there.

Social climber
Nov 4, 2012 - 11:39am PT

"remember everyone Ryan also believes a child born of rape is a gift from god."...


Has everyone forgotten that it's not the "GIFT" that counts...

It's the THOUGHT behind it...



Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Nov 4, 2012 - 11:45am PT
Wait a minute, I don't see Ryan in there anywhere.

Dr. F.

Ice climber
Nov 4, 2012 - 12:00pm PT
Do we really have to pollute this thread with off topic BS
It's about Ryan and how he can lie about anything.
And why was the Original thread deleted...

Nov 4, 2012 - 12:23pm PT
Jim D said:
"Good to have this back....Ryan is a douchebag and a liar. If this thread gets deleted you will never see me here again."

I'm giving Cmac the benefit of the doubt till he says otherwise. It's damned unique and strange that the "Paul Ryan is a liar" thread got totally erased right before the election. However, all the speculation and blame laid on Chris's door is wrong. Who's to say that some young Republican staffer didn't hack in and make it disappear? This sites always had minimal moderating. This thread pretty much proves it, it's got all kinds of crazy topics which have nothing to do with climbing going on all the times mixed in with some great climbing stuff.

The where did the thread go link:

The actual link of that original thread after being wiped out:

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 4, 2012 - 12:50pm PT
What handsome men in that photo!

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 4, 2012 - 12:54pm PT
About as Credible as his 2:50 Marathon

Wait a minute, are calling Paul Ryan the Rosie Ruiz of 14ers? lol
Rick A

Boulder, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2012 - 06:50pm PT
Rosie Ruiz? She was relatively unsophisticated. Check out this article on a guy who is suspected of cheating in marathons, but how he does it, no one has figured out.

Kind of pathetic really.

Love this quote about how the cheater was discovered through internet running message boards:

Not long after McGrath began his research, he decided to go public, sort of. His medium was LetsRun, a Web site devoted to news about élite track and distance running. One of LetsRun’s salient features is its “World Famous Message Boards,” where most participants use pseudonyms, and the content quality runs the expected gamut (factual, analytical, sophomoric, inanely combative).
Rick A

Boulder, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2012 - 11:38am PT
Bumping this thread to counter the mysterious disappearance of mountain climbing/political content on the eve of the election.

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 5, 2012 - 11:54am PT
Speaking of credibility, the deep scrubbing of the original thread heard round the world brings SuperTopo's credibility into question. And quite rightly so.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
Nov 5, 2012 - 11:58am PT
Another Ryan Lie

that lowering taxes will bring about economic growth and help pay down the National debt

How are you going to pay down the debt with less money?
oh yeah, it's the trickle down theory that has always never worked

another lie
He's saving Medicare!
By making it into a voucher system

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 5, 2012 - 11:59am PT
Paul Lyin' Ryan, all widow's peak and peak bragging- no peak bagging.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Nov 5, 2012 - 12:57pm PT
If the electoral votes tie at 269 we get Romney but no Ryan!
looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Latitute 33
Nov 5, 2012 - 01:22pm PT
Rick, Thanks for re-posting this (which I had missed the first time around).

The crux is:

The Ryan campaign attempted to use the Colorado 14ers in a very political (and cynical) manner to burnish Ryan's credentials in a key battleground state.

When these claims were seriously questioned (something that Ryan's campaign didn't anticipate), there was a major attempt to re-write, retract, cover-up and obfuscate.

While no-one really cares whether Ryan has climbed 3 or 40 Colorado 14ers ** (his absolutely primeval policy stances are what really concerns me), Ryan's boosters are right -- this issue says a lot about his character.

** I've only done 1 (Longs Peak)

John Butler

Social climber
SLC, Utah
Nov 5, 2012 - 01:24pm PT
I really have nothing to add... but feel compelled to have at least one post on the the BEST SUPERTOPO POLITICAL THREAD EVER...



Nov 5, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
Did he sign the registers at the summits of all the rad peaks he walked up. He's a piece of Mitt wrapped renus butter.
Whoever deleted this thread can't handle the truth that's why they destryoyed it. Censorship of any kind is wrong and un'american. It's strange though that there was political ads supporting The Romney?Ryan ticket right here on Supertopo... I hateed lookig at it but free speech and all... Dan

State of Mine
Nov 5, 2012 - 01:42pm PT
The Eiger, The Monc,

riley congrats on these summits....Eiger is 13,025 ft, Monch is 13,474 per wikipedia. not a big deal, but if ryan included 13ers as 14ers like you just did i am sure that all you puritans would crap all over him as a lier....

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Nov 5, 2012 - 02:46pm PT
I buy the notion that integrity matters. You should represent your achievements accurately. I like Rick.

However, to ask for a log with all sorts of statistics - that is so foreign to me. I realize that a faction of the climbing world keeps that type of data. Many of us mere mortals simply don't keep such detailed logs. I climbed the Grand Teton - not a 14ner - while pregnant in 1992. I have no photos as I lost the camera prior to reaching the lower saddle. I didn't even look for the summit register as a lightening storm was rapidly approahcing. I can't tell you the exact date I summitted, though I can describe the week and weather in a lot of detail. I can't give you the exact dates that I attempted Shasta, climbed Whitney, Rainier, ......I've climbed a few peaks many times, and don't keep any log of that.

As a younger woman I kept detailed records of running from every training run to every race with copious notes. The record keeping suddenly stops when I got hurt. I still run almost daily and I still race and do marathons. I can't tell you how many 3rd place tropies I have.

People do try to make connections with various groups of enthusiasts. I don't require proof or statistics to qualify you as someone who is also a climber, mountaineer, runner, skier, etc. If you want to take the first place trophy, don't pull a Rosie Ruiz. I don't really care if you have climbed 5 peaks or 50 peaks. That qualifies you as someone who has been in the mountains.

Not all people who have been in the mountains thinks alike. My vote isn't given to the person best qualified for the job of governing in a very divided and difficult political climate.

Of course, I haven't seen the public discussion going on in Colorado. It seems very strange to me. From afar, the candidate needs to impress me on a different dimension than athletic accomplishment to earn my vote.
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