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nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:24am PT
Madame et Monsieur le PA!
"Mesdames et Messieurs, les PA !"
Absolutely marvellous Steve! It is a real pleasure to see PA rock shoes in such a mind condition! What a treasure!
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Sep 27, 2014 - 07:31am PT
Steve, I noticed that your PA's are sewn with "golden" thread whereas these ones are sewn with black thread. I did not know that there were two "generations" of PA's.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Nov 19, 2014 - 01:26pm PT

PA Descender
You can still find them... Breveté SGDG (Breveté sans garantie du gouvernement)
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 19, 2014 - 02:18pm PT

Those are my thoughts exactly, Peter. I wore size 5N, (i.e. with the gold, rather than the black, stitching)(my street shoe size was 7.5 or 8D) and went through four pairs between 1970-1974. I got a pair of EB's in 1973, but needed to have them a size 37 to approach the edging power of the PA. When they were that small, though, I couldn't wear them for very long. The PA's, on the other hand, molded themselves to my feet within a couple of weeks of agony.

On a slightly different note, seeing those descendeurs reminds me of Tom Patey's definition of a descendeur ("(Fr.) A term of derision. The opposite of a climber")

John

RDB

Social climber
wa
Dec 8, 2014 - 10:12pm PT
That is a super short (and elegant) axe for 1956 and shorter yet for a Frenchman!

Nice find DR!
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Dec 9, 2014 - 09:43pm PT
I would in no way detract from Allain's wonderful inventiveness. However, Oscar Eckenstein - an engineer and early proponent of "modern" ice-climbing - around 1900 experimented with short ice axes. He taught Paul Preuss ice climbing techniques.

Oscar Eckenstein
Bad Climber

climber
Dec 10, 2014 - 06:30am PT
Mr. Gill! Thank you so much for the article on Eckenstein. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it. The Victorians were fascinating on so many levels. Oscar was a classic engineer-climber. It would be interesting to hear more about his marriage at age 59. Given your description of his personality, it's a minor miracle the bloke married at all.

I'm going to spend more time on your site, sir.

BAd
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Mar 7, 2015 - 07:01am PT

Galibier PAs model: Varappe

1949
PA teams up with Emile Bourdonneau, a fellow climber, whose family own a shoe factory

1950
First commercial slipper-style rubber rockclimbing shoe is produced under the joint collaboration.

Shoe has the appearance of high-top basketball shoe with lacing to the toe, and a fully randed sole

Colour was navy blue cotton canvas with white suede leather reinforcing.

The initials "PA" are stamped in a circular leather inner ankle pad.

? year
Pierre Allain takes his name to the French mountain boot company, Galibier, who produce the PA with black canvas and red suede leather

Emile Bourdonneau retains rights to produce the original shoe,which is technically superior to the new Galibier PA, but now brands it “EB.”

1975
90% of EB production is exported from the Paris production plant company is awarded a French Oscar for export sales

[Aside the PA (Pierre Allain), Galibier also produce RD (Rene Desmaison), and Yosemite RR (Royal Robbins),]

[There was also the Galibier BB, designed with Australian climber, Rick White, presumably after his 1968 grade 19 first ascent Beau Brummel)
but none of these Galibier boots dominate the market quite like EBs

Source: http://www.inov8.au.com/compass/ebsupergrattonhistory.html
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Mar 7, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
Nice post!

I would guess mid to late 1960s for the red Galibier PA as they were well established by 1970 when I started climbing.
Blakey

Trad climber
Sierra Vista
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2015 - 12:08am PT
Certainly here in the UK, by 1970 there were
A selection of shoes available, if not very well established; the Denim and
Chrome leather EB, the red and black Galibier PA,
The brown Galibier RDs, and Hawkins Masters, (a British make).
Klets had become a rarity.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Mar 8, 2015 - 01:25pm PT

Galibier PA Varappe from a 1978 catalogue

Source: The Royal Robbins thread. Thanks to Keeter. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1022257&tn=100
gilly

climber
Mohawk Valley,Ca
Nov 19, 2015 - 07:51pm PT
Just bringing it to attention if you haven't read about Pierre Alain. The Dru article in Alpinist 50 and 51 by Ian Parnell is very good indeed.
Salute to a gifted climber! G
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 9, 2016 - 10:20am PT

DURING THE 1980S, WHEN I was the editor-in-chief of the French magazine Alpinisme et Randonnee, I spent several days in Grenoble each year for an international trade show. My meetings were exhausting work, happily interrupted by visits with good friends, which allowed me to forget, for an hour or two, everything that the show signified: that the mountains had become a business and that we—the journalists, the guides and the technical consultants—were all part of it.

The encounter that gave me the most pleasure was with a smiling, elderly gentleman who had a gentle voice and an impish gaze. Dressed like an ordinary retiree, he seemed out of place amid the flashy crowd of young athletes. It was the legendary Pierre Allain, now in his eighties, here to display the carabiners and caving ladders that he still manufactured himself, with the machine tools he'd designed.

Who would have thought, at the sight of this modest character, always joking (but without any spite) amid the climbing community he'd watched evolve for more than half a century, that this was one of the greatest alpinists of the 1930s, as well as an innovator of lightweight carabiners, rappel devices, down jackets and climbing shoes? Or that he was the first ascensionist of the North Face of the Drus!



http://alpinist.com/doc/ALP50/82-mountain-profile-the-aiguille-du-drus-1935

After a bivouac, Allain and Leininger reached Lambert's highpoint. Allain saw a double crack above him, some forty meters high, with an overhang at the end. With his arms in both fissures, his feet in opposition on the slabs, he couldn't place a piton for the first ten meters. Legendary alpinists who climbed the wall after him—including Lambert, who made the second ascent in 1936, with Loulou Boulaz—all confirmed that it had a difficulty without equal at the time in the entire massif.

Allain later confessed to me that he had a predilection for cracks, something of an anomaly for a Bleausard. In Fontainebleau, fissures are rare, so he'd searched them out, unearthing the "Fissure des Alpinistes" in a lost corner of the forest (now graded 5c, but Bleau grades are stiff). Unfortunately, the Fissure Allain on the Dru is no longer frequented. After the sixth ascent, in 1945, the French climber Felix Martinetti found a much easier crack to the right.

To attain the summit of the Petit Dru, Allain led an icy chimney without crampons. They weathered their second night out on the descent. All evening, the snow drifted through the darkness, yet their bivy sacks worked marvelously.

The words of Sylvain Jouty translated from French by Katie Ives in Alpinist 50

Face Nord des Drus, Voie Allain - Leininger: http://www.tvmountain.com/video/alpinisme/10526-face-nord-des-drus-voie-pierre-alain-raymond-leininger-chamonix-mont-blanc-massif.html
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 9, 2016 - 10:30am PT

A short Pierre Allain history. Pierre Allain : et la pure lumière du rocher éclaira la voie


TOUTE UNE HISTOIRE

1904 : naissance de Pierre Allain à Mirebeau dans la Vienne

1910 : arrivée à Paris.

1931 : début en alpinisme après ses premiers pas à Fontainebleau.

1932 : première grande course, la traversée Charmoz-Grépon.

1933 : invention du mousqueton asymétrique et premier essais à Fontainebleau de ses chaussons souples.

Première de l’arête sud de l’aiguille du Fou

1934 : s’installe rue des Ciseaux dans le VIe arrondissement de Paris, puis rue Saint-Sulpice, pour vendre du matériel d’escalade.

1935 : première de la face nord du Petit Dru. Directissime de la face sud de la Meije. Deux voies qui incarnent la rupture vers l’escalade moderne.

L’expédition française au Caucase teste son matériel de bivouac (sac de couchage avec compartiments en duvet, veste gilet en duvet, matelas pneumatique, veste cagoule en soie, pied d’éléphant).

1936 : expédition française au Hidden Peak (8068m) dans le Karakoram Himalaya

1940-43 : invente le descendeur, qui prend alors la forme d’une fourchette. Puis le fameux dérocheur, un crochet à ressort.

1948 : début de la commercialisation. de ses chaussons P.A.

1963 : quitte Paris et s’installe à Uriage.

1994 : retraite officielle à 90 ans.

2000 : mort le 19 décembre.

Antoine CHANDELLIER

http://www.ledauphine.com/loisirs/2014/07/30/et-la-pure-lumiere-du-rocher-eclaira-la-voie
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 5, 2016 - 11:31am PT

I found these PAs lately, also these are sewn with yellow thread.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Feb 6, 2016 - 02:04am PT
Marlow, recently I too found a pair of PAs with such a golden thread… in England. I am still looking for the old blue pair.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 28, 2016 - 09:27am PT
Anyone know when the lime green version of the PA was sold by Galibier?

I assume that they were the most recent offering of this shoe.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Nov 28, 2016 - 09:57am PT
Steve, I am going to do my best this evening once at home to give you an exact date tomorrow. And yes, the green version was the very latest PA’s to hit the market.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Nov 29, 2016 - 12:11am PT
1966: PA's made of black canvas and red leather.
1978: PA's made of green canvas and light grey leather.
1984: PA's are no longer marketed...
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Nov 29, 2016 - 03:38am PT
Loved those green PAs



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