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zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Mar 4, 2013 - 02:18pm PT
There was a time, before the Flames were famous long ago (in Joe Herb Park - what's up with that?), when the only Famous Flames were these guys (I think the last time I saw them was August, 1966. Not that they disappeared mysteriously or anything, I just didn't see 'em no mo).

Like the difference between dark and light, which reminds me.

If total darkness is the absence of light, then what is total light?

The absence of dark doesn't qualify as an acceptable answer. This restriction on answers can be explained most readily by noting that neither darkness nor it's speed has ever been quantified (I'll probably have to have this fact checked by Dr. Hartouni and/or Herr Braun to be sure, but just take it on faith for now).


This stems from having spent a small amount of time in the sensory deprivation chamber in the basement of Tolman Hall (we weren't looking for the Basement Tapes, though the year was right, it far too dark for that). It was actually necessary to drill a few holes in it (the chamber that is, not the park) to let some small amount of light in because it was too unnerving to be in there in total darkness (that phrase again).


Baby please don't go back to Manteca, I love you so

I dreamed I saw Joe Herb last night, alive as you or me





So, just like Sherman, marching through Merced on down to the sea, if you got a big leg to throw around, might as well shave it, but you don't have to:

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2013 - 12:51am PT
Joe Herb's Bicycles
Herb's Cyclery on M St., Merced, next to the alley.  My son Scotty's s...
Herb's Cyclery on M St., Merced, next to the alley. My son Scotty's skateboard shop, Bueno Boarding, was located to the right one half block going towards Main STreet.
Credit: mouse from merced
You'll recognize the pantile roof from the upper photo.  The spot occu...
You'll recognize the pantile roof from the upper photo. The spot occupied by the Towne and Turf Clubs, in fact all of this half block (The Towne became La Cabana sometime) is now public parking. Just to the left of the Turf was Tommie's Liquors.
Credit: mouse from merced

I know a lot about the history of downtown. I've lived here going on fifteen years, and been a museum docent roughly nine. And I worked downtown for five. Whenever I meet up with Skip Johnson at the Coffee Bandits the talk often gets around to local history and such.

According to the Historical Society Museum web pages, more or less,
Sixteenth STreet, to the left at Tommie's Liquors, was Business 99 following the coming of the freeway portion in 1959/60.

Joe Herbs Bicycles was located at 1621 M Street (just a half-a-block from the RR track--the SPRR, not the Santa Fe) and was owned by Joe and Mary Herb from 1928 to the 1960s. Joe bought and sold a collection of bicycles and motorcycles. His shop was popularized by the adult and children clientele. The Schwinn brand bicycle was among the most popular and sought after bike.

"Join the swing to Schwinn."--Merced Sun-Stroke ad for Joe's

In 1963, the motorcycle portion of the business was relocated to 1645 W Highway 140. The M street business was passed down to Joe’s brother, Harold.

Around 1976, the bicycle business was purchased by Frank Hunt. Although the building* was demolished in 1992, Hunt continued the business at 215 W main Street. Hunt recently pass away and the business is no longer active.
That's what they have to say, zBrown.


Joe Herb Park is located just a nine-iron (@ 200 yds for me) from where Boomer lived. It has some great softball facilities and a fine picnic area, right on the road through town to Planada, Hwy 140, the Year-Round Highway to Yofsemite.

That's what's up with Joe Herb Park. I have memories, of course. There is a 1971 vintage photo of the Rev, and a bunch of us ruffians standing across from the old Rest STop, which became JHP in the next decade.
Jack Meade, left, Skeeter and friend, center, & the Rev in Feb. 1971. ...
Jack Meade, left, Skeeter and friend, center, & the Rev in Feb. 1971. Out on Highway 140 taking a rest at the Rest STop on the return from Eiger Mtn. Sports in L.A. Mike Dwyer might be to Jack's right.
Credit: mouse from merced
When we were high-schooling, we all heard the tale of Allan B. swingin' a cat by the tail inside the Rest STop's can. Bloody ending, but much remorse later, so it's all good now. It was HS.

Frank Hunt was pretty much a curmudgeon, and I loathed going in there but refused to hate the guy--he just had a crappy store with little business outside of emergencies. He felt he had a right to be surly, so let him. Kevin's bikes has always had the new bikes highend business locked up, anyway; except for Billy Golfoos' Sporthaus, which has closed, but sold mostly racing bikes. But Frank died shortly after my boss at the bookstore down the street, and then we lost another prominent Main STreet business beerson, Sprout, the bartender at the Cruise, aka Sharon the Rev's quondam wife, ca. 1969.

*The building left of the shop is not the Merced Hotel, once the Cosmopolitan Hotel, which was across the damned street. It burned up so they had to tear the rest down. The bike shop was torn down, along with the Turf and the Towne... Up
and down. Light and dark.



edit/recant: I realize that virtually nobody hits nines that far, at least not anyone without a halo.


Joe Hill Protestant
Joe Herb Catholic
Joe Hill traveled by train and Shank's mare
Joe Herb owned a bicycle shop/motorcycle shop.
Joe Hill Park is where?
Joe Herb Park is right next to the Santa Fe RR’s “Bradley Overhead.”
Joe Hill wrote songs and tried to right wrongs.
Joe Herb turned wrenches and left behind benches.
Both men are vey long dead.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2013 - 02:08am PT
The Bloody Mary Lunch with Alyssa from Second Time Around.
The Bloody Mary Lunch with Alyssa from Second Time Around.
Credit: mouse from merced/Alyssa from STA
I believe this was Friday noonish.
Making me dizzy!
Making me dizzy!
Credit: mouse from merced
The rest of the day I felt like this kid from the race Saturday. This was sometime after Gene and I collided at the Tioga.
Gene of ST.
Gene of ST.
Credit: mouse from merced
Start of the very first race on Saturday.  It was a total one-man brea...
Start of the very first race on Saturday. It was a total one-man breakaway. He lapped the field, or just about.
Credit: mouse from merced
Random City.
Lycra!  Yeah, Baby!
Lycra! Yeah, Baby!
Credit: mouse from merced
Credit: mouse from merced
Credit: mouse from merced
The Explorer Ride-Along Posse prior to deploying as crossing guards an...
The Explorer Ride-Along Posse prior to deploying as crossing guards and corner whistles.
Credit: mouse from merced
The Illuminator, a world-class ass, believe ME.
The Illuminator, a world-class ass, believe ME.
Credit: mouse from merced

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2013 - 02:54am PT
5.10, Let's go to the Bistro.
5.10, Let's go to the Bistro.
Credit: mouse from merced
Credit: mouse from merced
Credit: mouse from merced
Credit: mouse from merced
Who's my little Banger?
Who's my little Banger?
Credit: mouse from merced
Cruisin' slow and ridin' low.
Cruisin' slow and ridin' low.
Credit: mouse from merced
DARK PINK?
DARK PINK?
Credit: mouse from merced
LIGHT.
LIGHT.
Credit: mouse from merced


mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2013 - 02:57am PT
Credit: mouse from merced
This little honey took a ribbon in the kiddie's race.
This little honey took a ribbon in the kiddie's race.
Credit: mouse from merced
Credit: mouse from merced
Tom's just been hit by the Thunderbolt!
Tom's just been hit by the Thunderbolt!
Credit: mouse from merced
She has her mind elsewhere, however.
She has her mind elsewhere, however.
Credit: mouse from merced
The announcing team, two dedicated followers of passion for the 'Big M...
The announcing team, two dedicated followers of passion for the 'Big Mac.' (The downtown race is called the McDonald's Classic, after all.)
Credit: mouse from merced
The Sun-Stroke gets it right!  The PeONY ESPRESSO IS COMING BACK! <br/>
 
...
The Sun-Stroke gets it right! The PeONY ESPRESSO IS COMING BACK!

And Jacque-Mayne leads the pack.
Credit: mouse from merced
Ben Jaques-Mayne, left, finished second in the final race, adding to h...
Ben Jaques-Mayne, left, finished second in the final race, adding to his overall lead.
Credit: mouse from merced
Here is the yellow jersey given to him as overall leader.
Here is the yellow jersey given to him as overall leader.
Credit: mouse from merced

I hope you all enjoy one common thing in these.

The smiles.
Gene with Middle Earth in the background.
Gene with Middle Earth in the background.
Credit: mouse from merced

"Ciao, Papa!"--Breaking Away
More cowbell!
More cowbell!
Credit: mouse from merced


This race interlude is dedicated to the memory of my good friend and a huge fan of Townies everywhere, Zoe Bishop of Berkeley and Merced.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 08:23am PT
The Letter X.  A flamboyant one from a family of literary figures.
The Letter X. A flamboyant one from a family of literary figures.
Credit: Yahoo Image
X-treme form.
X-treme form.
Credit: GI
Credit: mouse from merced
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Credit: mouse from merced
Credit: mouse from merced
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NO! Which part...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 09:28am PT
XoXoXo.


http://www.yosemiteconservancy.org/webcams/half-dome
http://www.yosemiteconservancy.org/webcams/high-sierra
http://www.yosemiteconservancy.org/webcams/yosemite-falls

Clouds. Always in the way...

We are soaking it up here in Merced.

Yosemite's gonna be real wet today.

The Flames blame the rain, Mary Jane, and Cain, who was no Boy Scout, or he might have bothered to find some dry wood. His brother was able to. Cain blamed the rain. Gotta blame it on somethin'.

Hook me up with some words, man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUQW4Zfu9T4

I'm goin' where the sound keeps shinin' through the pouring words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6nBh22gUdo

Like a Stone.
El Capitan on a rainy Saturday
El Capitan on a rainy Saturday
Credit: Vitaliy M.
Thanks, Vitaliy!
Perfecto!
XoXoXo...




lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Mar 6, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
Mouse: It is a G---GG----GGG----G—GG—GGGG Go for that Monday.


Credit: lostinshanghai

The only thing missing or on the right of these dishes is the salad and bean soup with red sauce to put on top, already ate the beef tongue they bring as well. If you ate the last of the rice they will ask if you want more or salad,bread,soup or the rest of these dishes.

They do or have sandwiches especially lamb and garlic on the lighterside.

Credit: lostinshanghai

Then this is dessert : typical Pyrenees bread and blue cheese.

Tried to get Ben into smoking ciiiiiigars on the way back. No way he said: guess we could ride on the top, will ask if he has a rack.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Mar 6, 2013 - 06:19pm PT



Exene Cervenka




L.A. X


zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Mar 6, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
no equis




es una zorraBrown


mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 06:29pm PT
Hey, that sounds great. We can do it.

I'm reading Trevanian in preparation. Watching the Eiger Sanction again.

And pondering the lyrics of Lambchop.



Credit: GI
zBrown item #59858

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiCI1HVLgBI

If total darkness is the absence of light, then what is total light?

"Blues are born
out of the darkness
with the help of light."--Al U. Nedano from this film

In the heart, in the idle mind,
in the eyes, in the daily grind,
in your want, in your need,
therein lies the bluish seed.


They have the blues in Chico,
They get the blues in Redding,
Both are lucky they're not flooded out
When Shasta's tears are shedding.



Piss on my grave when I'm gone.
I won't be there, son.
I'll be playing the bluest blues. No, son, I can't lose.

It's a cryin' shame about Alving Lee. I haven't listened to him in like ten years.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Mar 6, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
I haven't listened to him in like ten years.

Good one Mouse, I get it!
How ya been my friend?
Good news, I get to work tomorrow
Bad news, I fuk'd up my back xersizin.
Thunderstorms in shastaland as I speak.
Tad

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Mar 6, 2013 - 09:33pm PT
I haven't listened to him in like ten years

Kinda begs the question, what did you do thereafter?


On the way up to Joe Herb park I stopped in here for gas.

Gas was a much better deal in the old days.

SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Mar 6, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
Fun doesn't stop on this thread! Thanks Mouse and all the contributors!
Nice people!

Susan
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 6, 2013 - 10:22pm PT
hey there say, .... been busy...

had to stop by, on the fly...
after a sleepy-by... and a speedy buy...

well, bye for now...
:)

this note, by me, and how...

:)


*will have more time later this week, :)
so, i do speak...

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2013 - 12:36am PT
SCSeagoat, very nice to hear.

I suppose it might be the height of discourtesy to remind ANYONE that nice is a seldom-used word that fell out of use about the year I was born--the French, sacre bleu, have bequeathed the word and we seem to have forgotten it originally meant "foolish" or "stupid."

Credit: mouse from merced
It has been modernized by hipsters to "grooby." Interesting, isn't it?

n.b., thanks for cheeking in. Peeking + checking = cheeking. :)

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2013 - 01:26am PT
Terrible triffids troubled Toledo till Terrible took the tiller.

Things went from Terrible to Worse, Worse, and Worse, Attorneys-at-Law, when he had to defend himself from the results.

Toledo tanked and thanked Terrible not at all.
All in all, it was quite a thriller.
Credit: mouse from merced
Holy Toledo!! Was that Boris I saw, alive as you or me?

Ron Kauk on Thriller &#40;V10&#41;, Yosemite Valley.
Ron Kauk on Thriller (V10), Yosemite Valley.
Credit: Shawn Reeder
Ron loves to hug the rock using Xtreme form...

His formula for success might run like this:

X(treme) > (O, o)(0 + 0) = Nothin' to it.

Xcellent photo, Shawn.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2013 - 02:33am PT
Credit: mouse from merced
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
My apology to Clint.

Credit: Jim Shirley

Here is PROOF that I AM WRONG!

This goes back to the very first page of The Flames.

I need to explain: had I found this shot earlier, or noticed it, I should say, My Apology would have been extended that much sooner to Clint Cummins.

It is easy to see the top of the cliff is Pinnacular in form. Sort of like this knuckle-head's brow.

My chagrin is controllable, however.

As in previous posts, here I stand with pie in the face, the fatal finger in place, and still having fun doing it.

In fact, I may have learned something--just what I will need to process.

Just another day behind the grill of the Taco Wagon.

Ya want some Taco Sauce with that disculpa, Old Gringo?

Also, FTR, that is moi on the rope. Mathis don't do face climbs if he can help it. And that's m'style, too. Toesies.
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