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zBrown
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chingadero de chula vista
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Oct 13, 2012 - 11:17pm PT
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I used a wooden stove, exactly once. Turned into ashes. I'm going all metal from here on out.
This guy was smarter, but who isn't? Trimming trees in flip flops.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Oct 14, 2012 - 07:41am PT
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zb, try burning metal in your wood stove; it might work.
ekat, selling by weight would be ridiculous; mainly because it would be tedious, unless he had some large, commercial scales that a vehicle could drive onto and weighed both before and after loading. That investment would never be made up (and legally has to be certified by state).
Then again, firewood is tedious work.
Wood is big business in the south. Most commercial operations only do it as an aside. Such as small sawmills, tree services, etc. One or two businesses sell by the tractor trailer load to restaurants. They have big time operations with commercial splitters (more complex than the ones in the videos, large conveyor systems where the wood is palletized, shrink-wrapped and delivered with tractor trailers. (Barbecue is big business in the south).
I sell firewood; I stack it by species or as close to it just to keep within bounds of my OCD. northern red oak, Water oak, White oak, several hickories, pecan and dogwood, a few others.
By law in GA if you advertise you must price it per cord or half cord. I don't advertise. I sell a pickup truck load (stacked tight and neatly) for a $100 bucks. I figure it is somewhere between a 1/4 and a 1/2 cord. (I don't advertise; unless "word of mouth" is advetising.
Prices very around here, between $80 - $120 a load, false 1/4 or 1/2 cords, and some sale it by piecemeal ($120 for 120 pieces). I through in a milk crate of fat lighter split in thmb width by 10 inch pieces, if they don't have a gas starter.
In Atlanta some example prices are steeper:
$250 per Pickup Truck Load Delivered and stacked.
$400 per Face Cord Delivered and stacked.
$500 per Cord Delivered and stacked.
Metal Cord Wood Rack $200.00
Few people burn would in a stove such as mine, they mainly burn wood for the ambiance as the heat goes right up the chimney. I burn in a forced air stove that is very efficient, sometimes too efficient.
I started out splitting with a axe and maul but switched a MTD 20 ton splitter in 1991, simple machine with a 6 h.p. engine. Still works well after 22 years. I started out selling for $60 a truck load.
Not sure if I really make any money, going out and gathering wood, moving it home, splitting, piling, stacking, delivering, plus saw expenses, etc. There is no telling how many times I move the wood before and after splitting. I don't take healthy trees, just storm wood.
I do it because I enjoy it and to provide myself with wood. Selling it is an effort to try and recover the cost of gathering wood so that I can say "I don't pay for heat". Also all my friends think that since I have so much I should just give them some; which is ok to a point; especially if they are willing to pitch in and help.
In the beginning I did it for therapy, then I did it for the money, then for the wood fuel starting around 2001. I try never to turn the furnace on; but do on occasion just to charge the air with warm air; if it is really cold and I just starting a fire.
I keep most of the hickory for myself and give it to friends who cook with it.
I store it under a roof and have 4 areas where I store it, one example below from the real value thread. You can't tell how much wood is under that roof but each of those sections are 7 feet x 8 feet and is 3 stacks deep with 18 inch pieces.
About wood cords, if you are hauling tree length wood to a saw or paper mill there are two types of cords: hardwood and pine. A pine cord is 5,500 #'s and a hardwood cord is 6075 #'s.
I just watched the video above. Sooner or later that guy is gonna wish he used something a little more conventional (hydraulic cylinder type) as that looks like a serious accident about to happen.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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damn Tobia - you take it pretty seriously.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Hey Khanom,
UPS delivered this this evening: ( the splitter, not the beer )
Can't wait to play with it tomorrow.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Just got a new house that is 100% electric heat. Going to put in a wood stove for the many electrical outages that the area has and want a good one. Was thinking the Blaze King Chinook or Schricco with the Catalytic converter.http://www.blazeking.com/EN/wood-sirocco.html
I don't want a piece of sh#t in there, even though it will primarily be a backup source.
Thoughts?
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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After having to replace my catalytic combustor (Corning) after only 12 years of service to the tune of $200 +, I am not so sure I would go that route again.
The ceramic cumbustor is fragile and requires cleaning several times a season to maintain functionality. If mine fails again I believe I will just remove it.
I burn my stove as primary source of heat and try not to turn my furnace on at all; even though I doubt I am saving any money. I do it because it seems like fun.
Here is a link for information on different stove technology.
http://www.customfireplacesandmore.com/hearth-articles/catalytic-non-catalytic.html
I've been selling firewood for years (about 20 or so). I sell a 1/3 of a cord for $100 delivered and stacked. I am probably working for 50¢ an hour; at best after thinking about equipment, labor and transportation cost.
I stopped by my sister's house the other day after delivering a load not too far from her house. She had just delivered five cakes she baked for $100. On the way home I started doing the math; she had maybe $20 in materials, 2 or 3 hours max in labor and could fit all in the back seat of her car.
I should have learned to bake!
and zb, one of the few things I take that way.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Nov 12, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
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Thanks. They just came out with these stoves in October. I wonder if they updated the design to make it more robust.
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