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Lollie

Social climber
I'm Lolli.
Oct 5, 2015 - 12:28am PT
Lovely thread, this one. Beautiful pictures.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2015 - 12:44am PT

Thanks Lollie.

The name of Reilly's boat is "Torsk" - "Cod" in English.

And here's a picture of fishing at Norkapp around year 1900:

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 20, 2015 - 01:23pm PT

Rune songs

During the late Bronze Age, a hunting-cultivation culture arose alongside the ancient wilderness culture, along the coastal and inland areas of the Gulf of Finland and Lake Ladoga. As had happened in other shamanic cultures, the transformed economic basis of the hunting-cultivation culture strained the limits of traditional shamanic practices. It led to the development of a unique ‘Finnish solution’ to the crisis, building upon, but also departing from, elements of wilderness culture.

First, in order to maintain protection and guidance, the new hunter-cultivators continued to embrace and honour their ancestors, as the wilderness culture had done. However, over time, hunter-cultivators changed their allegiance from the clan to the extended family, or lineage. At the same time, they continued their respectful relationships with the spirit persons of nature, the haltijas, reflecting their continuing reliance on wilderness subsistence activities.

The second development, in response to the crisis of relevance of the ancient shamanic practices for the hunting-cultivation culture, was the appearance of a new transitional shamanic practitioner, the proto-tietäjä. This figure was a variation on the Siberian model of the “independent shaman”, who could be mobile and could serve the former members of various clans. However, the new proto-tietäjä lacked a cohesive base of support and recognition, as the wilderness band had provided for the noita.

In developing new forms of practice relevant to hunting-cultivation life, the proto-tietäjä had access to unique resources: nearby bands of the wilderness shamanic culture, with their shamanistic noitas, as well as rich cultural influences arriving on their shores from Baltic and proto-Scandinavian areas. The fruit was the development of Kalevala metre runes. The runes incorporated the ancient shamanic world view in sacred folk poetry, in fixed form, that would be passed on thereafter through a vibrant oral folk tradition.



The photo above from the 19th century depicts the singing of runes, in which one singer leads and the other responds. It suggests the ancient roots of the tradition in wilderness culture: “The specific position taken by the singers and their cooperation could be a vestige of shaman activity. The fore-singer corresponded to the shaman and the after-singer to the shaman’s helper.” (Pentikäinen: 1999)

Over time, tietäjä-poets began to add songs to the body of runes composed by the wilderness noita-poets. Their songs, while maintaining wilderness motifs and images, also reflected sacred themes of the hunter-cultivation, and later swidden, culture.

According to Oinas (1997), singing the runes was not seen as “art for art’s sake, but an act of magical significance. These songs contain the most sacred and powerful knowledge that could be used to influence man’s life”. In effect, they encoded the ancient shamanic world view of the Finns and later additions to it by tietäjä-poets.

Formerly this world view had been maintained as part of the “grammar of mind” of the wilderness noita, but now it was the property of the people of the hunting-cultivation culture (and eventually, the whole Finnish people), including the tietäjäs, in the form of the Kalevala metre runes.

The body of runes or magic poems were carried down from singer (laulaja) to singer, generation to generation, over centuries and millennia in Finland. “Men and women sang—either in groups or alone—as they worked in the fields, hunted, fished, or attended to domestic duties. In the evening the men and women sang and listened to each other as they performed household tasks, the men spinning or weaving, the men carving or mending their nets.” (Kuusi, et al: 1977)

Because the runes were passed on orally, in the words of Comparetti (1898), they became a “fluctuating mass of verse, of poetic thought…in a perennial state of transformation, of decomposition and of recomposition.” In spite of the often superior aesthetic qualities of this body of verse, it never became the property of elites, including ‘artistic’ ones. Comparetti says, “In truth the traditional poetry of the Finns is popular poetry in the full sense of the word”.

The Rise of Kalevala Era Shamanism: The Kalevala Metre Runes: http://spiritboat.blogspot.dk/2012/04/rise-of-kalevala-era-shamanism-kalevala.html
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2015 - 01:19pm PT

On the eastern coast of Sweden: Stockholm around 1900

On the western coast: Smögen

Balladen om " Briggen Blue Bird of Hull", Smögen (with nice Norwegian pictures out of context)
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Smögen, Bohuslän today - fishing and eating lobster
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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2015 - 11:23am PT

A tune by a musician from Finnskogen who died too early, Ted Gärdestad, and his brother, Kenneth - I den Stora Sorgens Famn (The great sorrow)

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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2015 - 10:32am PT

Thorstein Bergman 1975 - Gässen flytta (lyrics: Dan Andersson)
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Freddie Wadling - "Blott en dag ett ögonblick i sänder"
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Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2015 - 12:45pm PT

Old winter postcards from the souteastern part of Norway:

Svullrya
Elverum
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2015 - 08:29am PT

Finnskogen long ago - pictures from Värmland, Sweden
JC Marin

Trad climber
CA
Dec 3, 2015 - 08:38pm PT

One of 7 lakes on our farm in South west Norway--tons of rock to climb too.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 3, 2015 - 09:02pm PT
The Nordmarkingar look ready for anything, ikke sant?
JC Marin

Trad climber
CA
Dec 3, 2015 - 09:17pm PT
Maybe everything but A-Ha
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2015 - 09:53am PT

JC and Reilly

I have to agree. Anything, but wimpy music, one-eyed devils, removable blade safety-razors, wimpiness generally and soul-speak...

And wimpy music would also mean noisy music performed by groups of long-haired girly men in girly clothes - Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones as examples.


Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2015 - 01:51am PT

Popular music from Vittula

Mikael Niemi has written a book about about the 1960's/70's in Vittula, Pajala, in the northern part of Sweden. I'll leave to you to find the meaning of the word Vittula, but it's an appraisal of female fertility.

The book handles the transformation from a traditional code to a more modern code, in part driven by rock music. It is also a story about what it means to be a man in this Finnish-language part of Sweden, what's acceptable and what is not - what is "knapsu" (something only women do) and what is not. New times, new technology and new concepts give trouble.

Some activities that are clearly "knapsu":
 hanging up the curtains
 knitting
 milking a cow by hand
 washing the dishes by hand
 watering the flowers

Some activities that are clearly manly:
 hunting
 fishing
 chopping wood
 log driving
 fighting

But what about:
 eating low fat diet
 driving an electric car
 meditating
 yoga
 milking a cow using a milking machine
 washing something using an electric washing machine
 popular music


The arrival of the first Beatles record in Vittula

While the old folk sat around cackling away like black-clad crows, we youngsters wandered off outside. The boys from Missouri followed us out. They were twins, aged about eight, dressed in smart suits and ties. They spoke English to each other while Niila and I conversed in Tornedalen Finnish; they kept yawning due to jet lag, and were shivering noticeably. They both had crew cuts and looked like miniature marines with ginger hair, like their Irish-American father. You could see they were bewildered by being transplanted to the Old World and their mother’s roots. It was May, the snow was melting after the long winter, but the river was still covered in ice. The birches were naked, and last year’s grass was flat and yellow in the meadows where the snow had barely finished thawing away. They trod cautiously in their patent leather shoes, peering around uneasily on the look-out for Arctic predators.

I was curious and started chatting to them. They told us in sing-song Swedish-American that on their way to Sweden they’d broken their journey in London and seen the Beatles. I told them to cut out the fairy-tales. But they both swore blind the Beatles had driven past their hotel in a long, open Cadillac through rows of girls screeching and shrieking. It had all been filmed from a lorry following close behind.

The twins had bought something as well. They produced a paper bag and took out a record with an English price tag.
“Beatles,” I spelled out slowly. “Roskn roll musis.”
“Rock ’n roll music,” they chorused, correcting my pronunciation with a grin. Then they handed the single over to Niila.
“It’s a present. To our cousin.”

Niila took hold of the record in both hands. Fascinated, he slowly slid out the circular piece of vinyl and stared at the hair-thin grooves. He was holding it so gingerly, as if afraid it would crack, like a wafer-thin disc of ice from a frozen water-bucket. Although this disc was black. Like sin.

“Kiitos,” he mumbled. “Tack. Fenk yoo.”
He sniffed at the plastic, then held it up towards the spring sun and watched the grooves glittering. The twins glanced at each other and smiled. They were already composing the story about their meeting with the natives they’d recount for their buddies back home in Missouri as they all sat around chewing hamburgers and slurping coke.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Dec 29, 2015 - 02:23am PT
thank you marlow for everything even in advance. it's like window peeking at cousin school
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Dec 29, 2015 - 08:38am PT
I am reading a book my oldest son gave me, entitled Norwegian Wood, by Lars Mytting. It is about chopping, splitting and stacking wood for use in wood stoves. It is a quirky little book that waxes eloquent about the joys of wielding an ax with authority and splitting a log on the first blow.

I love a wood fire and have been having one every night during a recent cold spell.

From the book:

Many people are at their most contemplative when addressing a chopping block.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2015 - 11:31am PT

Hooblie
"It's like window peeking at cousin school". Hehe... great...

Rick A
That book inspired a Norwegian TV station to send a continuously running television program about wood that lasted for 12 hours. It is not on Youtube.
Here it is on NRK: https://tv.nrk.no/serie/nasjonal-vedkveld

A skilled wood-chopper at work using old equipment.
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A film about a locally made, effective wood chopping machine that was used by the whole local community in Vänsjö, Sweden.
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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 29, 2015 - 12:37pm PT
Why are all the cartoons in svensk? (I love the last one)
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2015 - 12:43pm PT

Cool that you understand Swedish, Reilly. To speak the truth - I was too lazy to even try to translate bits of the text and I have no idea how to translate some of the words.

More Norwegian wood - Norwegian Wood (acoustic Beatles cover) - Mike Masse and Jeff Hall
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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 29, 2015 - 12:49pm PT
I didn't say I understood them! ;-)

OK, I did look some of the big words up.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2015 - 01:34pm PT

Now there is an intended translation connected to each of the Swedish cartoons.
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