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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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May 19, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
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Nice ones, Hartouni. I've been a spaceflight geek since I was a wee grommet. My recent reading binges have revolved around Projects Manhigh and Excelsior, and of course the X-15 flights. DAMN that was some badass sh#t going down! In terms of raw human adventure, it's about as out there as you can get. Gnarlier than the Apollo missions IMO, if not as complex, lengthy, and glamourous. And those Mercury guys...Ho Man, talk about just f*#king going for it!
Bonus points: I can now pontificate with great authority on the Kármán line! w00t! I'll be killin' it at the JT campires next fall.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 19, 2012 - 07:00pm PT
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While not technically a great photo, that is Mr. Lincoln, Gettysburg.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 19, 2012 - 07:35pm PT
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Archduke Franz Ferdinand and Dutchess Sophie, Sarajevo, 6/28/1914
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 19, 2012 - 08:48pm PT
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General Custer and associates:
"Our First Grizzly, killed by Gen. Custer and Col. Ludlow." George Armstrong Custer poses with the first grizzly bear he had ever shot, though his marksmanship in this case was reinforced by well-placed shots fired by his scout, Bloody Knife (left), and by William Ludlow (far right). Photographed by William Illingworth during the 1874 Black Hills expedition.
(National Archives [77-HQ-264-847])
EDIT: I can't tell if it's leaking or not, but I think it might be the first photo of it E.T.
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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May 19, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
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Cool pic's everybody.
zBrown, in your bottom pic i think that dood, in the background to the rear and just left of the tent, is taking a leak...just sayin!
edit: Plus(and FWIW)i think the bear that Cragman killt was much bigger!
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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May 19, 2012 - 10:00pm PT
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not technically a still photo, but definitely iconic.
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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May 20, 2012 - 12:29am PT
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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May 20, 2012 - 12:35am PT
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An iconic pioneer, Karl Blossfeldt (1865- 1932) photographed and studied natural design in the plant world as a sculptor and teacher. I love his work.
If Taschen is still printing his book it's well worth owning.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 20, 2012 - 12:43am PT
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ISBN 3836504693
25th edition, 2008
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 20, 2012 - 03:02am PT
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Andersonville survivor
In all, death claimed more than 26,000 Southerners of the 220,000 held prisoner; the toll among Northerners was 22,500 out of 127,000
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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May 20, 2012 - 03:38am PT
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Unreal! Hard to believe one human being could treat another human being that way, let alone another American. I would suspect that the above individual was beyond the point of help/survival.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 20, 2012 - 04:19am PT
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"Elmira (Camp Chemung) was one of five Northern camps for prisoners of war and the only one in New York State. The death rate at these camps (excluding Elmira) averaged around 12%. The death rate at "Helmira" was 24%. Of the Southern prisoner of war camps, only Camp Sumter (Andersonville) exceeded that death rate - 29%. As the numbers of the dead accumulated, the task of proper burial fell to John W. Jones (1817 - 1900) who ironically was a runaway slave from Virginia. Jones, who was sexton of Woodlawn Cemetery, kept meticulous records for each soldier including name, rank, regiment, and company when possible. Burial markers were not placed over the graves until 1907; but it was Jones' records that enabled the identification and location of individual sites. In a strange twist, among the bodies that Jones came across was that of the son of the overseer of the Virginia farm where he was enslaved! His house (now the John W. Davis Museum) still stands on Davis Street very near the entrance to the cemetery. Like the soldiers he tended to, he is also buried in Woodlawn Cemetery."
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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May 20, 2012 - 10:38am PT
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some of the more recent pics are interesting but not very iconic.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 20, 2012 - 12:26pm PT
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^ Yeah, I agree. I thought that something iconic was symbolic or evocative of the time, or some salient aspect of the time, it was taken.
EDIT: As I thought about it more, I think maybe it not strictly time dependent. Could be a process, attitude, or other phenomenon.
I like what Mr. MFM says below.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 20, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
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Granite and zBrown
I agree when it comes to your conclusion about iconic as being "symbolic or evocative of the time". Which opens up an interesting question: Why do some pictures become symbolic or evocative of their time or theme, while other good pictures are forgotten? Is it the quality of the picture in itself? The marketing of the picture? The context it is used in the first time? ... or at a later time?
This is a question about the process of social construction of what is considered iconic.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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May 20, 2012 - 01:01pm PT
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An icon is supposed to be instantly recognizable, overcoming language with sight.
The blind may not respect the icon. The picture of Patty Duke as Helen Keller, running at us with her hands out, that's iconic. And ironic. And on my wall.
The single most iconic photo I recall is the Marines flag-raising on Mt. Suribachi on Iwo Jima. You'd have to be blind to have missed that one, seemingly. And not in the least patriotic, no doubt.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 20, 2012 - 01:21pm PT
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Good morning Tami. A good start to your day?
The word iconic has changed content in a quite/rather (if value is to be added) ironic way.
Have a nice day!
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 20, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
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Once you get into deciphering the lexicon there's a strong possiblity that you're gonna end up in the world of infinite turtles.
Perhaps better just to stick with the photos.
A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!"
He's got the whole world in his hand.
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Tarz
Mountain climber
Calli
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May 20, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
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