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Gene
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 28, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
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Over on the boxing thread Piton Ron says that for him the three most iconic photos are the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima, Oswald shooting Ruby, and Ali standing over Liston in their rematch.
Good choices all. My additions are Tiananmen Tank Guy, the Oklahoma City firefighter with the baby, Tet street execution, and the young Afghan woman.
Within the realm of journalistic photos, what say you?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 28, 2012 - 01:51pm PT
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I WIN!! What's my prize Gene? Sorry to end the contest so fast...HA!
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YoungGun
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North
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Mar 28, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
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you would have to put something by James Nachtwey in the running.
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Gene
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
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Survival,
Where should I send your vintage postcard?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 28, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
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Ghosts of Vietnam....
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micronut
Trad climber
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Mar 28, 2012 - 01:56pm PT
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I win.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 28, 2012 - 01:56pm PT
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More ghosts.
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micronut
Trad climber
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Mar 28, 2012 - 01:56pm PT
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plund
Social climber
OD, MN
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Mar 28, 2012 - 01:57pm PT
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Joe Kittinger steppin' out....
Johnny Cash flippin' off....
Elvis & Nixon.....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 28, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
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Sexier than ghosts.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 28, 2012 - 02:01pm PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 28, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
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The OG war photog:
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 28, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
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IT DOESN'T COUNT IF YOU DON'T POST A PIC!!
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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Mar 28, 2012 - 02:06pm PT
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Gene
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2012 - 02:23pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 28, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
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Survival's Vietnam photos are high up on my list. Melissa's posted photo of Sharbat Gula is hypnotic. It's impossible not to be caught by that face.
Some iconic climbers/climbing photos:
Reilly
I know. But she picked that photo. ;o)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 28, 2012 - 02:37pm PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 28, 2012 - 02:37pm PT
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I don't think it was Melissa's photo, Marlow. ;-) Y'all really should be
giving credit to these wonderful photographers.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 28, 2012 - 04:31pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 28, 2012 - 04:38pm PT
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Sam R
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Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Mar 28, 2012 - 06:54pm PT
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Gene
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2012 - 07:04pm PT
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Mar 28, 2012 - 07:06pm PT
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coloradohigh
Trad climber
rocky mountain trench
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Mar 28, 2012 - 09:51pm PT
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This image eventually ended up in many dorm rooms and gift shops
The lynching of Abram Smith and Thomas Shipp
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Mar 28, 2012 - 10:31pm PT
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Hendrix is a rad one. Coloradohigh is an obvious 'whithey-hater', commie. But whatever.
One from our time is the Marine Corpsman cradling a girl to get her to an aid station in Iraq after terrorists chose some collateral damage.
Read the story here;
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/little-girl.htm
Photo Credit: Michael Yon, retired Green Beret and independent war correspondent. He does really good work. Google him.
Heart-wrenching image knowing that the little girl didn't make it. And may she rest in God's arms now...
Notice the Marine's embrace trying to comfort her to the aid station. Tear-jerker image. Especially juxaopposed to the pic of that pussy Che Guevara. F*#king coward, murderer.
Meh...
EDIT: that Stannard pic is awesome!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 28, 2012 - 11:28pm PT
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Yon's is possibly the most arresting of this early century.
This Robert Wiles possibly from the last one.
On May Day, just after leaving her fiancé, 23-year-old Evelyn McHale wrote a note. 'He is much better off without me ... I wouldn't make a good wife for anybody,' ... Then she crossed it out. She went to the observation platform of the Empire State Building. Through the mist she gazed at the street, 86 floors below. Then she jumped. In her desperate determination she leaped clear of the setbacks and hit a United Nations limousine parked at the curb. Across the street photography student Robert Wiles heard an explosive crash. Just four minutes after Evelyn McHale's death Wiles got this picture of death's violence and its composure.
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pbernard02
Trad climber
Chester, CA
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Mar 29, 2012 - 12:15am PT
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Lennart Nilsson's work is astounding...
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 29, 2012 - 01:31am PT
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Coloradohigh's posted photos are as epic as epic can be.
And Jimi once more:
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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Mar 29, 2012 - 01:35am PT
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yummy
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
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Mar 29, 2012 - 01:41am PT
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Ansel Adam's image of Georgia O'Keefe and guide. I love the expressions on both of their faces.
Just from the photo, you can tell that she really knew how to have a good time.
Eric
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 29, 2012 - 01:45am PT
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Mar 29, 2012 - 01:51am PT
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Space shuttle explosion
Anything out of Yosemite Climber
Werner with a boom box
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Lennox
climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
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Mar 29, 2012 - 02:03am PT
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Coloradohigh is an obvious 'whithey-hater' [sic], commie. But whatever.
Thanks for further confirmation.
Bluering [bloo ring] noun: an ignorant, maudlin reactionary.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 29, 2012 - 02:08am PT
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NYTimes 5/27/2007
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:30am PT
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Lennox
climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:36am PT
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I love that picture Todd--about $20.00 in aluminum and $10.00 actual value in beer, but who has the tougher foot gear?
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:57am PT
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"...that pussy Che Guevara. F*#king coward, murderer."
Wow, I actually agree with the blue on something...wonder of wonders...
cheers
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:20pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:28pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:39pm PT
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:41pm PT
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Mar 29, 2012 - 03:52pm PT
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Wonderful photos all, though I think my notion of iconic photos is probably closest in line with survival's. I also have vivid memories of first seeing the Empire State suicide photo as a kid. A really striking contrast: the violence done to the vehicle and the relative composure of the victim. A remarkable photo.
Ed's NY Times Memorial Day photo is also very moving.
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coloradohigh
Trad climber
rocky mountain trench
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Mar 29, 2012 - 05:04pm PT
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How could we forget this one...
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 29, 2012 - 08:04pm PT
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Peace
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Social climber
Retired to Appalachia
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Mar 29, 2012 - 08:26pm PT
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I'm surprised this one hasn't been posted yet:
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Mar 29, 2012 - 08:29pm PT
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 29, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
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Michael Hjorth
Trad climber
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Mar 30, 2012 - 06:01am PT
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Stunning photos!
Just a small comment to pbernard02:
The Lennart Nilsson photos are in my opinion not worthy. That is NOT a live fetus!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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The English dropping bombs in the head of civilians. The Russians fighting their way all through.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Le Maitre - Henri Cartier-Bresson...
My sister-in-law has a HCB, not the above, which she turned down $11K for.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Some corporate tricksters
Reilly and Bullwinkel - if I had the time I would give credit to the photographers by searching and posting their names. They deserve credit. Some times I know - Cartier-Bresson's Paris boy carrying bottles as an example. I think a lot of people know that photo.
As Mikey says - I hope the act of showing their photographs is also an act of giving credit.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Wow talk about stomping on copyrights. . .at least give credit to the photographers. . .
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mikeyschaefer
climber
Yosemite
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Dean this thread is about the most iconic photographs, not photographers. And a true artist would just want his image seen regardless if anyone knew who took it.
Kinda interesting how the majority of the images are in black and white. Maybe it is due to most of them being older or how a b&w still resonates so strongly with people. Or all the good current photography is getting buried by endless amounts of sh#t work.
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OldEric
Trad climber
Westboro, MA
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Need:
1. raising the flag on Iwo Jima
2. Hiroshima
3. Kent State
4. Crowd and stage at Woodstock.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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And a true artist would just want his image seen regardless if anyone knew who took it.
and credit.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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The first flag.
The first flagraising atop Mount Suribachi, February 23, 1945. Hank Hansen (without helmet), Boots Thomas (seated), John Bradley (behind Thomas) Phil Ward (hand visible grasping pole), Jim Michaels (with carbine) and Chuck Lindberg (behind Michaels). Photo by Lou Lowery. 10AM, Feb. 23, 1945
First flag goes dowm, second one up
The uncroped Rosenthal second flag photo.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Goerge Lawrence, "San Francisco In Ruins"
( high-res, interactive version of same shot: http://www.sfgate.com/maps/1906quake/ )
While there were airplanes in 1906, none of them were any good for what Lawrence was doing.
After nearly being killed while taking aerial photos from a balloon, Lawrence switched to kites.
It took 17 kites, all attached in series, to lift his camera 2,000 feet above San Francisco Bay.
"The hitherto impossible in photography is my specialty"
 George Lawrence
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Hiroshima
"In the immediate aftermath of the atomic bomb, the allied occupation authorities banned all mention of radiation poisoning and insisted that people had been killed or injured only by the bomb's blast. It was the first big lie. "No radioactivity in Hiroshima ruin" said the front page of the New York Times, a classic of disinformation and journalistic abdication, which the Australian reporter Wilfred Burchett put right with his scoop of the century. "I write this as a warning to the world," reported Burchett in the Daily Express, having reached Hiroshima after a perilous journey, the first correspondent to dare. He described hospital wards filled with people with no visible injuries but who were dying from what he called "an atomic plague". For telling this truth, his press accreditation was withdrawn, he was pilloried and smeared - and vindicated."
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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I was going to say, the only notable absence I could think of was the raising the flag on Mt. Suribachi (Iwo Jimo).
Other notable war related ones are:
1. Matthew Brady photographs of the Civil War
2. Landing at Omaha Beach, D-Day
3. A Life Magazine photo of three Americans on Papua New Guineau, Dead on the Beach 1943: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/lm02.html
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Woodstock
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jahil
Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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D-Day landing.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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The focus in action!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Marlow- Very nice shot of Wanda!
Who took it?
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Steve
I don't know. The picture is not in "A Caravan of Dreams".
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Photos: Sebastiao Salgado - Africa
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Great pics everyone.
That photo of the grief-stricken woman after the Japanese tsunami sticks in my brain. Photograph by Kazuhiro Nogi
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Yeah!
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Gene
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 7, 2012 - 01:37pm PT
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Cosmic... LOL
Look at the guns on that guy! The B&W version has a slimming effect on my midsection.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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That's you Gene? I thought it was Joe the Cable Guy. ;-)
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Iconic
Icon---an image that represents something much greater and more important than itself. Also that is so well known that anyone familiar with the time/place will recognize what is being represented instantly.
graniteclimber already put up the pic I had in mind. The Dorothea Lange photo of the Depression Era migrant worker holding her baby. That picture represents not only the Depression but the struggle of desperate mothers anywhere at any time.
I put it up again
bluey
Hendrix is a rad one. Coloradohigh is an obvious 'whithey-hater', commie. But whatever. Good Grief dude! Get a grip. Those pics were all iconic. Whether you like the individuals in the pic or not. Just as almost any pic of Hitler saluting. These pictures are universally recognized, not as pictures in themselves but for what they represent.
So am I a Nazi loving skinhead or a Norwegian mass murderer?
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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As an example of an iconic climbing photo.... the Dale Bard rurp belay is the first that comes to mind. Sorry for the photo thievery Dave-
it's already been posted here a bunch and it is...indeed - memorable.
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Mountain climber
there and back again
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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and the most iconic of all...
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Four great ones. But I don't get the one in the middle!
guido
two classics. They both make me laugh one way or another.
Tami....point well made.
srbphoto. Ferdinand was certainly an icon for Yosemite climbers and other Tioga Pass habitués.
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Jay Wood
Trad climber
Land of God-less fools
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Mountain climber
there and back again
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Hightraverse,
Not a Dead Head I gather! I am glad that you relate to the other ones. 4 out of 5 ain't bad.
Postum up.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Imogen was a pioneer in the art of nude photography in an era when such exposures were taboo.
Imogen's nephew Rym, was a classmate of mine at San Jose State and lived in my guesthouse for years in Santa Cruz. I deeply regret passing up the opportunity to visit her in San Francisco on numerous occasions with him. Her son Gryf was a talented architect and a joy to associate with.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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The imogen and twinka shot was in Yosemite. the place where all good things happen and dreams come true.
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Baggins
Boulder climber
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The photo of MM Andy Warhol used for his pop art images:
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Cough please...
TSA airport security!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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A personal favorite on the climbing side...
Our own Dennis Hennek looking stud high on the NA Wall! Royal Robbins photo.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
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What a wonderful way to spend a Sunday morning. Funny, moving, heart-breaking, inspiring, and uplifting... the whole gamut. This is my second full time through these and many of these I've contemplated scores of times in the past. Never will tire...
This one has always resonated with me:
And that made me think of this Eisenstadt classic that I don't think we've yet seen:
[Edit]: Doht!!! It's been posted at least twice before already and was the second post in the thread! I plead the three young kids on Easter morning defense! Can't use the no coffee defense... Already starting cup #3!
Cheers all!
Eric
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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And, Stevie Grossman, that was the second ascent of the N.A. too and Dennis was a mere child then. Quite something. Lauria of course even by then was seventy.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Some Nordic "existentialists"
Sřren Kierkegaard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B8ren_Kierkegaard
Henrik Ibsen
August Strindberg
Peter Wessel Zapffe (climber and existentialist)
http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/The_Last_Messiah
"Zapffe' s mountain" - Stetind
"Det begynder at bli et brćndende spřrsmaal, om naturens sande venner gjřr klokt i at berette om sine fund. Ikke bare risikerer de, nćste gang de sřker fred og fornyelse hos sine gamle idyller, at finde disse besat med uvćrdige, som letvinte transportmidler har bragt derut i tćtte stim, ledet av deres egen naivt-filantropiske veiledning. Paa jorden ligger sřppelen efter dem som skavler av raattenskap og i luften kjćmper naturbeundrernes egen ulyd med hermetisk musik. Ćre vćre folkets uskyldige glćder, til folket hřrer vi all, og grćnser skal ikke skille mellem menneskene. Det er i marken grćnserne skal trćkkes, det er der man nu maa begynde at bygge taushetens mur om de vćrdier, som dřr naar de blir grepet med vold og som utfolder sine dypeste undere bare i den stille tilbedelsens time. -Men farligere endnu er hyćnerne som veier profit - som laller med lyriske tunger og kalkulerer med kalde, graadige řine. Hvad der levende falder i deres klřr, det korsfćster de in effigie paa sine skrikende plakater, det vrćnger de ut og ind i brosjyrenes standardiserte begeistring. Livet river de ut av sine umćlende ofre og sćlger liket i smaatt. Bevar os, himmel, fra projekternes raseri."
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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I can't believe this one has not been posted:
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 10, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 10, 2012 - 04:38pm PT
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The last empress
"Soong May-ling was born in Shanghai in 1898, the youngest of three sisters. The girls were educated in the U.S. Ai-ling married the financier H.H. Kung; Ching-ling's husband was Sun Yat-sen, the founder of the Republic of China; and May-ling in 1927 wed Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, the man who would soon unify a fractious China but ended up losing the country to the Communists and decamping to Taiwan in 1949. The usual rap on the sisters is that Ai-ling loved money, Ching-ling loved China and May-ling loved power.
In 1937, when Chiang Kai-shek's influence as the leader of China's Nationalist government was at its peak, Life magazine called Madame the "most powerful woman in the world." Liberty magazine described her as "the real brains and boss of the Chinese government." Ernest Hemingway, who had lunch with her in 1941 in the wartime capital Chongqing, called her the "empress" of China.
Madame had a ruthless streak, and Ms. Pakula describes how she managed to "compartmentalize" her mind, overlooking facts that she would prefer not to face when they stood in the way of a goal. In the case of her marriage, she, a staunch Methodist, had to convince herself (and her mother) that Chiang, who already had two wives when they met in 1926, was free to marry her. (Chiang obliged by sending his second wife to America and denying the validity of his first marriage.) During their life together, she overlooked the generalissimo's numerous faults as a military and political leader, such as his preference for fighting the Communists instead of the invading Japanese and his tendency to ignore the suffering of the Chinese people, who ultimately revolted against him. She overlooked, too, the immense corruption of his Nationalist Party, whose fortunes were based in part on the opium trade.
Chiang Kai-shek’s government, increasingly besieged by China’s Communist Party as the 1940s went on, was rotting from within. Chiang Kai-shek was a ruthless, petty man and a dismal leader. As Theodore H. White and Annalee Jacoby observed, “The manners of the Kuomintang” — the Nationalist Party — “in public were perfect; its only faults were that its leadership was corrupt, its secret police merciless, its promises lies, and its daily diet the blood and tears of the people of China.”
Eleanor Roosevelt got a chilling glimpse of Mme. Chiang’s own dark side when Mrs. Roosevelt asked her how she would deal with a difficult labor leader like John L. Lewis of the United Mine Workers. “She never said a word,” Ms. Roosevelt wrote, “but the beautiful, small hand came up and slid across her throat.”
"The Last Empress" offers examples of Madame's "near-hypnotic effect on men," including FDR's 1940 challenger for the presidency, Wendell Willkie, with whom Ms. Pakula believes she had an affair. Willkie's friend, Mike Cowles, reports that Madame once told him that if Willkie had won the presidency in 1944, then "he and I would rule the world. I would rule the Orient and Wendell would rule the West."
Ms. Pakula ducks a central question: Was she mainly interested in increasing her power and enriching her family's fortunes? Or did she, like her left-wing sister Ching-ling, love China and believe that the best way to show that love was to save her country from the evils of communism? Was she "God's masterpiece," as the family minister described her at the time of her death in 2003 at the age of 106? Or was she "the most evil woman to wield power" in the 20th century, as one Taipei paper put it? After 800 pages, "The Last Empress" doesn't say. Madame Chiang Kai-shek remains as enigmatic as ever."
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KP Ariza
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SCC
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Apr 10, 2012 - 05:52pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 11, 2012 - 03:57pm PT
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Raggare
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 11, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
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MotoGP
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 11, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 11, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
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Is it me or are the photos getting less and less iconic? (though I liked Bachar/Yabo shot).
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 11, 2012 - 04:39pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 11, 2012 - 04:50pm PT
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Pianists
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nevahpopsoff
Boulder climber
the woods
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Apr 11, 2012 - 04:53pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 11, 2012 - 04:57pm PT
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Two Americans
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 11, 2012 - 04:59pm PT
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Svenska synden
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nevahpopsoff
Boulder climber
the woods
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Apr 11, 2012 - 05:02pm PT
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photo by Larry Burrows
I saw this in Life Magazine when I was about 7, it made a big impression.
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nevahpopsoff
Boulder climber
the woods
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Apr 11, 2012 - 05:02pm PT
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Dead Photo by Herb Green
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 11, 2012 - 05:47pm PT
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This is the first image published of dead American soldiers in WWII. I've always found it haunting. The decision to publish the photo in LIFE Magazine prompted a full page editorial explaining the decision: “Why print this picture, anyway, of three American boys dead upon an alien shore?” Among the reasons: “words are never enough . . . words do not exist to make us see, or know, or feel what it is like, what actually happens.”
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Baggins
Boulder climber
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Apr 11, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
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Thread back on track
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 13, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 13, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Apr 13, 2012 - 03:44pm PT
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Just a couple pics I have for current projects
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 13, 2012 - 03:49pm PT
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Warren Harding hanging out on the Wall of the Early Morning Light, 1970
To me, iconic
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Apr 13, 2012 - 04:06pm PT
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Apr 13, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 13, 2012 - 04:41pm PT
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Baggins
Boulder climber
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Apr 14, 2012 - 01:28am PT
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Apr 14, 2012 - 01:31am PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 14, 2012 - 01:55pm PT
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Black Like Me:
"One day in 1964 John Howard Griffin, a 44-year-old Texan journalist and novelist, was standing by the side of the road in Mississippi with a flat tyre. He saw a group of men approaching him. Griffin assumed the men were heading over to assist him but instead they dragged him away from his car and proceeded to beat him violently with chains before leaving him for dead. It took Griffin five months to recover from the assault. The attack was not random; the beating represented a particularly brutal form of literary criticism: Griffin was being punished for having written a book.Black Like Me, the book in question, had been published three years earlier in November 1961 and it had led to its author being both venerated and vilified. Griffin, a lantern-jawed and chestnut-haired white man, deliberately darkened his skin and spent six weeks travelling through the harshly segregated southern states of America, revisiting cities he knew intimately, in the guise of a black man. On the opening page Griffin set out the question he was attempting to answer: "What is it like to experience discrimination based on skin colour, something over which one has no control?" No white man could, he reasoned, truly understand what it was like to be black, because black people would never tell the truth to outsiders. "The only way I could see to bridge the gap between us was to become a Negro," Griffin writes. "I decided I would do this."
He visits a dermatologist who prescribes medication usually given to victims of vitiligo (a disease that causes white spots to appear on the patient's skin) and he supplements the medication with sessions under a sun-lamp and by shaving his hair and rubbing a stain into his skin. In one of the most powerful passages in the book Griffin describes the shock of seeing his new self in the mirror for the first time. "In the flood of light against white tile, the face and shoulders of a stranger," he writes, "a fierce, bald, very dark Negro glared at me from the glass. He in no way resembled me … I had expected to see myself disguised, but this was something else. I was imprisoned in the flesh of an utter stranger, an unsympathetic one with whom I had no kinship … I looked into the mirror and saw reflected nothing of the white John Griffin's past. No, the reflections led back to Africa, back to the shanty and the ghetto, back to the fruitless struggles against the mark of blackness."
Startled by how little of himself he recognises, Griffin sets off on his journey and is further shocked by how little he recognises of his own country: the man who shines his shoes every day does not recognise him, the restaurants he usually eats in are no longer open to him, and he has to plan ahead if he wants to use the bathroom or drink from a water fountain. White folks either treat him with extravagant politeness – when they are on the hunt for black girls or they want to inquire about his sex life – or they give him what Griffin describes as "the hate stare". "Nothing can describe the withering horror of this," he writes, "you feel lost, sick at heart before such unmasked hatred, not so much because it threatens you as because it shows humans in such an inhuman light. You see a kind of insanity, something so obscene the very obscenity of it terrifies you. I felt like saying 'What in God's name are you doing to yourself?'" Being exposed to the hate stare, witnessing racism from the other side, leaves Griffin sad and angry; he grieves at how "my own people could give the hate stare, could shrivel men's souls, could deprive humans of rights they unhesitatingly accord their livestock". He concludes that "the Negro is treated not even as a second-class citizen but as a tenth-class one."
Griffin's outrage at this injustice was rooted in his own life. He was studying in France at the outbreak of the second world war and joined the French resistance, helping to smuggle Jewish children to Britain. Having witnessed the consequences of racism against Jews he became more sensitive to the plight of black people in America. Griffin had been temporarily blinded during the war after being blasted with shrapnel. He recovered his sight two years before embarking on the journey he described in Black Like Me, and the book can be read as a reaction to the lessons he learnt while sightless. "The blind," he would later write, "can only see the heart and intelligence of a man, and nothing in these things indicates in the slightest whether a man is white or black."
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 14, 2012 - 01:58pm PT
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~kief~
Trad climber
nor-cal
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Apr 14, 2012 - 02:11pm PT
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~kief~
Trad climber
nor-cal
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Apr 14, 2012 - 02:15pm PT
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~kief~
Trad climber
nor-cal
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Apr 14, 2012 - 02:16pm PT
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Apr 14, 2012 - 06:08pm PT
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Apr 17, 2012 - 03:40pm PT
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Peter,
In September '68 on the 2nd ascent of the NA, Dennis was 23. I was almost 37.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 17, 2012 - 04:05pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 18, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 18, 2012 - 02:05pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 18, 2012 - 02:06pm PT
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 18, 2012 - 02:11pm PT
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Apr 18, 2012 - 04:15pm PT
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Apr 18, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
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KaiPL
Mountain climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Apr 18, 2012 - 05:22pm PT
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Double D
climber
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Apr 18, 2012 - 07:10pm PT
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This has to be included for those of us who "cross-over"
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Double D
climber
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Apr 18, 2012 - 07:14pm PT
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One of my favorite Ansel Adams... Moonrise over Hernandez
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 18, 2012 - 08:14pm PT
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Double D, I have that poster in my living room.
Back when the Ansel Adams exhibit came through LACMA I got the headset of his voice describing his photos. Halfway through the exhibit I turned the corner and there it was. The original of Moonrise, Hernandez, New Mexico and his voice described to me how he got that image. He only had one film left and took it and didn't think it wouid work out. He had no other options to get it but that one took and became a classic. Hearing his words describe it almost reduced me to tears.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 18, 2012 - 08:42pm PT
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I have a smaller print of that shot that I picked up at the same exhibit. Glorious shot. The moon wonderfully exposed, the sweep of cloud, the white crosses in the foreground. Absolutely wonderful (though I think someone posted it way earlier in the thread).
Since someone had posted one of Ansel's comtemporaries, Edward Weston, earlier, I'll post another:
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MisterE
Social climber
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Apr 18, 2012 - 09:23pm PT
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Ex-Mayor of Portland, Oregon: Bud Clark
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Double D
climber
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Apr 19, 2012 - 12:42am PT
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True story... when I was 19, in 1977, I walked into the Ansel Adams gallery in Yosemite, saw Moonrise Over Hernandez and thought to myself, "that is going to be worth a fortune some day." the 16x20 was $1,300 for darkroom print #110 or so. I had the money in my pocket from the events of that year but didn't want to stow it in my car overnight. I was planning on just hanging it in my parents home until someday I had one of my own.
Driving into the Gallery the next morning my Fiat broke down and I figured that I needed a new ride instead and didn't get it.
Three or four years later at auction #9 or #10 fetched $70k. I've been a fan of fine art photography ever since!
)-;
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Apr 19, 2012 - 12:49am PT
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good story DD
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Tobia
Social climber
GA
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Apr 19, 2012 - 02:07am PT
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Apr 19, 2012 - 09:24am PT
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You're all #1 in my book
Have a nice day!!
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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Apr 19, 2012 - 11:51am PT
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Sure took a long time for that Kent State photo to appear.
Back in January I was at the Newseum in D.C. The best part is the exhibit on Pulitzer Prize winning photographs, many of which have shown up in this thread. It's an excellent presentation and worth the price of admission.
Here's an icon:
Bobby Fischer and Larry Evans training for the world championship in 1972:
Bobby visits the great Mikhail Tal in hospital:
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 19, 2012 - 12:42pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 19, 2012 - 02:36pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 20, 2012 - 04:53pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 20, 2012 - 04:57pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 20, 2012 - 04:59pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 20, 2012 - 05:00pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 20, 2012 - 05:00pm PT
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Fogarty
climber
BITD
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Apr 20, 2012 - 07:13pm PT
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This is a classic
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 21, 2012 - 02:18pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 21, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 21, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 22, 2012 - 11:48am PT
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Meteora, Greece
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 22, 2012 - 11:55am PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 22, 2012 - 01:19pm PT
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~kief~
Trad climber
nor-cal
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Apr 22, 2012 - 02:18pm PT
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Apr 22, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
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Twin Towers Tightrope Walk - Philippe Petit, August 7,1974
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 23, 2012 - 03:01pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 23, 2012 - 03:03pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 28, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
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Somme 1916
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~kief~
Trad climber
nor-cal
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Apr 28, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
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WAR SUCKS.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 28, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
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Two of Robert Capa's from the Spanish civil war.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Apr 28, 2012 - 09:16pm PT
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Before NASA changed the skies of Mars to orange/red and they've been orange/red mostly even since . . .
Here's a nice day on Mars during the Viking Mars missions, with imagine that, Blue skies!!! (Also note that the colors on the color patterns are all correct as well as the colors of the US flag.)
Nano magnetite crystals from microbial life in the Mars meteorite AHL84001 found in the Allen Hills region of Antarctica in 1984. These type of pure and perfect magnetite crystals are bio-genetic only . . .
Boeing/Bush Administration poster for Mars. What are they not telling us?
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jstan
climber
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Apr 28, 2012 - 09:31pm PT
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No one has said anything here, because it is normal practice to wait for an idiot to speak up. I will serve as that idiot.
This thread has to be a virtually unrivaled summary of the human condition as evidenced by images. Please note we each spend, each day a major portion of our calories, processing images.
Marlow has to be a professional, possibly a very well known one. Who simply loves the content possessed.
We, are the beneficiaries.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 28, 2012 - 09:36pm PT
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jstan, you spoke out of turn. ;-)
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jstan
climber
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Apr 28, 2012 - 09:48pm PT
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Very good Reilly.
I stand chastened.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 29, 2012 - 02:03pm PT
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Someday you will wise up, Laddie!
Nothing "iconic" about your chronic foolishness...
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
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Apr 29, 2012 - 04:46pm PT
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Back a few pages: Great stories Dee Ee and Flouride about that iconic Ansel Adams moonrise photo. And love that Greg Knoll image as well. What a character. We rent a home in Laguna in the summer and it has a painting of that image (and of him riding those waves on that spectacular day). Good stuff.
This is the best thread to linger on during a lazy Sunday!
Eric
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Apr 29, 2012 - 04:53pm PT
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Mimi
climber
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Apr 29, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
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Werner, uh, I mean Bear 46.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Apr 30, 2012 - 01:36am PT
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It occurs to me that Tim Page may be the most represented photographer on this thread. I counted three.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 30, 2012 - 03:48am PT
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^^^^
I Love that picture, Mimi. "American campers are so stupid..."
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Apr 30, 2012 - 01:33pm PT
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Hey Klimmer, any chance of getting you to delete your posts of -- spaceships, asteroids, whatever? They amount to an embarasingly out-of-place intrusion into a thread that was progressing nicely as a symposim on the finest photojournalism of the last 50 years or so.
Your descision -- intentional or not -- to disprepect the rest of us by inappropriatly cross-posting a bunch of irrelevant stuff from your "Aliens On Moon" thread kind of diminishes this one. And since you've already created a very alive and sucessful thread on your topc elsewhere, is there any value added to this thread by LEB-izing it with an extensive reprint of you material you've repeatedly posted elsewhere? Do you want to become the next st member to have a verb assigned to him -- "Klimmerized?" I think not.
Food for thought. In deference to your forum-mates, please return your post to the thriving thread dedicated to that topic you already created.
Thanks!
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plund
Social climber
OD, MN
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Hey BVB....have you seen Tim Page's book "Another Vietnam"? F-ing brilliant. Mike Herr's characterization of Page in "Dispatches" is unforgettable - "yesh".
Drift over -- great thread except for the moonship shite!
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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Benito Mussolini (strung up with his mistress and some of his buddies), Nikolai Chauchesku, Pol Pot. Dead. All dead.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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May 1, 2012 - 11:45am PT
Hey Klimmer, any chance of getting you to delete your posts of -- spaceships, asteroids, whatever? They amount to an embarasingly out-of-place intrusion into a thread that was progressing nicely as a symposim on the finest photojournalism of the last 50 years or so.
Your descision -- intentional or not -- to disprepect the rest of us by inappropriatly cross-posting a bunch of irrelevant stuff from your "Aliens On Moon" thread kind of diminishes this one. And since you've already created a very alive and sucessful thread on your topc elsewhere, is there any value added to this thread by LEB-izing it with an extensive reprint of you material you've repeatedly posted elsewhere? Do you want to become the next st member to have a verb assigned to him -- "Klimmerized?" I think not.
Food for thought. In deference to your forum-mates, please return your post to the thriving thread dedicated to that topic you already created.
Thanks!
BVB,
Hey, I can understand your feelings, but then you would have to go through the entire thread and actually ask all posters to eliminate all "silly" and "non-iconic" images, and there are many. Why pick on me? At least I posted actual images from NASA and JAXA from the Moon. These are real images and the red/blue anagram stereo-pairs are from the original NASA images.
If it's what I and many others who are even more in the know say it is, wouldn't these be the most iconic images in all of NASA's archives?
Actual photographic evidence of ET presence and the fact they have been here for perhaps millions of years . . .
What could be more iconic?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Why pick on me?
I suppose I'm talking to an intellectual fence-post here, but I'll take a shot.
1) Your rather lenthy post hardly contains any photojournalitic images that be even marginlly regarded as "iconic" by anyone who has practiced photojounalism in the last 70 years.
2) Your veiws on, well, whatever it is you're trying to convey -- are thouroughly represented elsewhwre on the forum. Your very lenthy repost to this thread of material identical to material you have posted to your 3,000+ post thread is amply represented elsewhere, and has no bearing to the topic of this thread, an disturbs the whole flow, vibe, and gestalt of this thread. It's grafitti, in othr words.
you're not really a public school teacher, are you? Is that just a troll?
What this boils down to, Klimmer, are exercising some very basic, simple good manners.
Thanks Klimmer!
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Hannes
climber
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x-ray diffraction of DNA
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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I had to look through this great collection, but was startled to find no love for the work of Diane Arbus
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 10, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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May 10, 2012 - 04:24pm PT
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we all had eyes for the harvey girls no? even if they had been updated and rebranded
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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May 10, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
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I was just thinking about this thread. Here is one of the few climbing related ones so far:
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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May 10, 2012 - 04:38pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 11, 2012 - 03:16pm PT
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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May 11, 2012 - 04:36pm PT
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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May 11, 2012 - 04:44pm PT
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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May 11, 2012 - 04:48pm PT
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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May 11, 2012 - 04:54pm PT
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Excellent submissions, Gobee!
And Marlow, wow, page after page of great photos, thanks!
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ec
climber
ca
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May 11, 2012 - 04:59pm PT
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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May 11, 2012 - 09:06pm PT
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 11, 2012 - 10:20pm PT
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Pele
Beckenbauer
Lemond
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 11, 2012 - 10:25pm PT
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The 1911 Solvay Conference, the birth of modern physics
The 1947 Shelter Island Conference, the birth of Quantum Electrodynamcis
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 11, 2012 - 10:27pm PT
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The Boston Red Sox win the 2004 World Series, after an 86 year drought.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 11, 2012 - 10:31pm PT
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High Tc (critical temperature) superconductors, a remarkable discovery in 1986, a magnet levitates above the superconductor
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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May 11, 2012 - 10:46pm PT
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Ed should provide titles. The "ayes" have it.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 12, 2012 - 03:45am PT
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Dogs of War
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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May 12, 2012 - 07:58am PT
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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May 12, 2012 - 08:17am PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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May 12, 2012 - 08:30am PT
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t*r and friends
Years ago, before I began my climbing, I dreamed of airy spaces, long views, and animals. I longed for the adventure that Muir sought as a younker. I came upon a book in the stacks and I learned of Steen's Mountain and the Alvord Desert. Take a look at this site if none of you have heard of it or been there. http://www.oregonphotos.com/pagethree-C.html
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~kief~
Trad climber
state of Awakening
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May 13, 2012 - 02:11am PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 13, 2012 - 10:56am PT
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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May 13, 2012 - 07:35pm PT
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This is iconic!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 13, 2012 - 09:49pm PT
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second photo taken?
View from the Window at Le gras 1826 by Joseph Niepce
The Sun's energy comes from nuclear reactions which should produce copious quantities of neutrinos. It has only been in the last decade that we've been able to "see" the universe in neutrinos
From the SuperK detector
first medical X-ray
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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May 13, 2012 - 10:15pm PT
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The Sun's energy comes from nuclear reactions which should produce copious quantities of neutrinos. It has only been in the last decade that we've been able to "see" the universe in neutrinos
the best part is now you can get them in all different colors.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 14, 2012 - 04:34pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 15, 2012 - 04:59pm PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 15, 2012 - 08:40pm PT
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The good, the bad and the ugly.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 16, 2012 - 04:01pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 16, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 16, 2012 - 04:24pm PT
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 17, 2012 - 12:14am PT
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
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May 17, 2012 - 12:38am PT
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Back a few pages: Good pick, Off White. Diane Arbus was amazing. Lurid yet so engaging.
And the rest... Good stuff all around!
Eric
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 17, 2012 - 11:52am PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 17, 2012 - 11:57am PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 17, 2012 - 11:59am PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 17, 2012 - 12:06pm PT
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Beckett:
Waiting for Godot
Endgame
Simon McBurney discusses the terror of playing Clov in Complicite's production of Samuel Beckett's Endgame: [...] "Beckett is special, Endgame particularly so. It is unlike anything else I have played: fastidiously specific, utterly elusive. At any one moment in the performance, you will be aware of someone laughing hysterically, another weeping, while others sit silent, astounded or baffled. Endgame resists narrative and even thematic explanation. How you play it has to reflect this. If you decide something too much in advance, you forget the element that gives the play life – the audience."
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 18, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 18, 2012 - 09:52pm PT
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Vostok 1
Mercury
Soyuz 1
Gemini 1
Apollo 1
Apollo 11
STS-1
Shenzhou 5
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 19, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
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A scanning transmission electron microscope (STEM) is a type of transmission electron microscope (TEM). As with any transmission illumination scheme, the electrons pass through a sufficiently thin specimen. However, STEM is distinguished from conventional transmission electron microscopes (CTEM) by focusing the electron beam into a narrow spot which is scanned over the sample in a raster.
The rastering of the beam across the sample makes these microscopes suitable for analysis techniques such as mapping by energy dispersive X-ray (EDX) spectroscopy, electron energy loss spectroscopy (EELS) and annular dark-field imaging (ADF). These signals can be obtained simultaneously, allowing direct correlation of image and quantitative data.
By using a STEM and a high-angle detector, it is possible to form atomic resolution images where the contrast is directly related to the atomic number (z-contrast image). The directly interpretable z-contrast image makes STEM imaging with a high-angle detector appealing. This is in contrast to the conventional high resolution electron microscopy technique, which uses phase-contrast, and therefore produces results which need interpretation by simulation.
Usually STEM is a conventional transmission electron microscope equipped with additional scanning coils, detectors and needed circuitry; however dedicated STEMs are manufactured also.
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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May 19, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
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Vittorio Sella The Duke of Abruzzi and Guides Climbing through the Chogolisa Icefall, 1909.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 19, 2012 - 05:11pm PT
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Heather Thomas guys from my time will recognize this poster.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 19, 2012 - 05:13pm PT
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Is that Vittorio Sella's old lady?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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May 19, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
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Nice ones, Hartouni. I've been a spaceflight geek since I was a wee grommet. My recent reading binges have revolved around Projects Manhigh and Excelsior, and of course the X-15 flights. DAMN that was some badass sh#t going down! In terms of raw human adventure, it's about as out there as you can get. Gnarlier than the Apollo missions IMO, if not as complex, lengthy, and glamourous. And those Mercury guys...Ho Man, talk about just f*#king going for it!
Bonus points: I can now pontificate with great authority on the Kármán line! w00t! I'll be killin' it at the JT campires next fall.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 19, 2012 - 07:00pm PT
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While not technically a great photo, that is Mr. Lincoln, Gettysburg.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 19, 2012 - 07:35pm PT
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Archduke Franz Ferdinand and Dutchess Sophie, Sarajevo, 6/28/1914
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 19, 2012 - 08:48pm PT
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General Custer and associates:
"Our First Grizzly, killed by Gen. Custer and Col. Ludlow." George Armstrong Custer poses with the first grizzly bear he had ever shot, though his marksmanship in this case was reinforced by well-placed shots fired by his scout, Bloody Knife (left), and by William Ludlow (far right). Photographed by William Illingworth during the 1874 Black Hills expedition.
(National Archives [77-HQ-264-847])
EDIT: I can't tell if it's leaking or not, but I think it might be the first photo of it E.T.
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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May 19, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
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Cool pic's everybody.
zBrown, in your bottom pic i think that dood, in the background to the rear and just left of the tent, is taking a leak...just sayin!
edit: Plus(and FWIW)i think the bear that Cragman killt was much bigger!
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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May 19, 2012 - 10:00pm PT
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not technically a still photo, but definitely iconic.
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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May 20, 2012 - 12:29am PT
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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May 20, 2012 - 12:35am PT
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An iconic pioneer, Karl Blossfeldt (1865- 1932) photographed and studied natural design in the plant world as a sculptor and teacher. I love his work.
If Taschen is still printing his book it's well worth owning.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 20, 2012 - 12:43am PT
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ISBN 3836504693
25th edition, 2008
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 20, 2012 - 03:02am PT
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Andersonville survivor
In all, death claimed more than 26,000 Southerners of the 220,000 held prisoner; the toll among Northerners was 22,500 out of 127,000
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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May 20, 2012 - 03:38am PT
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Unreal! Hard to believe one human being could treat another human being that way, let alone another American. I would suspect that the above individual was beyond the point of help/survival.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 20, 2012 - 04:19am PT
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"Elmira (Camp Chemung) was one of five Northern camps for prisoners of war and the only one in New York State. The death rate at these camps (excluding Elmira) averaged around 12%. The death rate at "Helmira" was 24%. Of the Southern prisoner of war camps, only Camp Sumter (Andersonville) exceeded that death rate - 29%. As the numbers of the dead accumulated, the task of proper burial fell to John W. Jones (1817 - 1900) who ironically was a runaway slave from Virginia. Jones, who was sexton of Woodlawn Cemetery, kept meticulous records for each soldier including name, rank, regiment, and company when possible. Burial markers were not placed over the graves until 1907; but it was Jones' records that enabled the identification and location of individual sites. In a strange twist, among the bodies that Jones came across was that of the son of the overseer of the Virginia farm where he was enslaved! His house (now the John W. Davis Museum) still stands on Davis Street very near the entrance to the cemetery. Like the soldiers he tended to, he is also buried in Woodlawn Cemetery."
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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May 20, 2012 - 10:38am PT
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some of the more recent pics are interesting but not very iconic.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 20, 2012 - 12:26pm PT
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^ Yeah, I agree. I thought that something iconic was symbolic or evocative of the time, or some salient aspect of the time, it was taken.
EDIT: As I thought about it more, I think maybe it not strictly time dependent. Could be a process, attitude, or other phenomenon.
I like what Mr. MFM says below.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 20, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
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Granite and zBrown
I agree when it comes to your conclusion about iconic as being "symbolic or evocative of the time". Which opens up an interesting question: Why do some pictures become symbolic or evocative of their time or theme, while other good pictures are forgotten? Is it the quality of the picture in itself? The marketing of the picture? The context it is used in the first time? ... or at a later time?
This is a question about the process of social construction of what is considered iconic.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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May 20, 2012 - 01:01pm PT
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An icon is supposed to be instantly recognizable, overcoming language with sight.
The blind may not respect the icon. The picture of Patty Duke as Helen Keller, running at us with her hands out, that's iconic. And ironic. And on my wall.
The single most iconic photo I recall is the Marines flag-raising on Mt. Suribachi on Iwo Jima. You'd have to be blind to have missed that one, seemingly. And not in the least patriotic, no doubt.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 20, 2012 - 01:21pm PT
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Good morning Tami. A good start to your day?
The word iconic has changed content in a quite/rather (if value is to be added) ironic way.
Have a nice day!
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 20, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
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Once you get into deciphering the lexicon there's a strong possiblity that you're gonna end up in the world of infinite turtles.
Perhaps better just to stick with the photos.
A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!"
He's got the whole world in his hand.
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Tarz
Mountain climber
Calli
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May 20, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
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Tarz
Mountain climber
Calli
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May 20, 2012 - 01:38pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 20, 2012 - 02:05pm PT
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Route 66: An iconic road! Interesting pictures?
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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May 28, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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May 28, 2012 - 06:02pm PT
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Marlow, it's only 2,413 airline kms from Oslo, Norway, to SLO, CA.
I don't recommend Route 66 as a highway. It's a great song.
I'm listening to it now. As a song, it is iconic.
Is this ironic?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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May 28, 2012 - 06:08pm PT
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Marlow, it's only 2,413 airline kms from Oslo, Norway, to SLO, CA.
Most people don't know about the wormhole.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 30, 2012 - 01:54pm PT
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Mouse
A version of the "iconic" song Route 66: Diana Krall & Natalie Cole - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=m3TbSSI3hy8
The road Route 66 has an iconic status in Norway and I think it deserves being a symbol of a time and a spirit now lost.
Chiloe
When it comes to worms I will take this from Harold Pinter (about Samuel Beckett):
"He's not f*#king us about, he's not leading us up any garden path, he's not slipping us a wink, he's not flogging us a remedy or a path or a revelation or a basinful of breadcrumbs, he's not selling us anything we don't want to buy — he doesn't give a bollock whether I buy or not — he hasn't got his hand over his heart. Well, I'll buy his goods, hook, line and sinker, because he leaves no stone unturned and no maggot lonely."
An iconic Norwegian picture
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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May 30, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 30, 2012 - 02:57pm PT
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 30, 2012 - 03:34pm PT
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Sports
Pele
Jordan
Ali Liston
WB
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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May 31, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
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That's what I'm talkin' about. Iconic shot of the eponymous man with the icon of the '70s.
I SAID, WERNER...
Maybe if you turn that around you'll be even more silly.
All-time top ten rock-climbing shots.
On eight out of ten lists.
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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May 31, 2012 - 10:03pm PT
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What gets me about that photo, beside poor little Kim, is the little girl and her brother on the right, Kim's cousins. The little girl is terrified, too, but she still has her little brother by the hand in tow.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/viet_napalm_girl_has_peace_6WH3MquaHwCd2Jr8RBNpAJ
While at school, Phuc met a young Vietnamese man. They decided to marry in 1992 and honeymoon in Moscow. On the flight back to Cuba, they defected during a fuel stop in Canada. She was free.
Phuc contacted Ut to share the news.
After four decades, Phuc, now a mother of two sons, can finally look at the picture of herself running naked and understand why it remains so powerful. It had saved her, tested her and ultimately freed her.
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Gary
climber
"My god - it's full of stars!"
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I was thinking about 1968. That year really sucked for a lot of reasons. Maybe that's why there are so many iconic photos from that year.
These women and kids were killed seconds after the photo was taken.
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Jan 14, 2016 - 01:56pm PT
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Very entertaining thread to click through.
LOL at Klimmer trying to hijack/troll the thread about 200 posts in with his aliens on the moon bullsh#t. As if the long thread he started wasn't enough. What a kook!
Where is Klimmer by the way? Haven't seen him post in ages. Keep an eye out for him if you would.... Here is what he looks like in case you run into him.
I'd say this photo is pretty iconic as well......
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Dec 15, 2017 - 02:22pm PT
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I thought there was a climbing photo thread but this came up.
Adding some new and old iconic climbing ones:
Tom Frost
John McDonald
Jimmy Chin
My votes (war ones are iconic, but not my favorite)
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sween345
climber
back east
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Dec 15, 2017 - 02:36pm PT
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couchmaster
climber
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Dec 15, 2017 - 02:48pm PT
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Not the "most", but up there. Gaston Rebuffet
Add this to the one Marlow put upthread.
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