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nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Sep 9, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
Zimmerman's wife won't press charges despite call
http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20130909/c7a4bd0e-e581-40b6-8010-f0a252bc17c9

LAKE MARY, Fla. (AP) — The sobbing wife of George Zimmerman called 911 Monday to report that her estranged husband was threatening her with a gun and had punched her father in the nose, but hours later decided not to press charges against the man acquitted of all charges for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin.

Lake Mary police officers were still investigating the encounter as a domestic dispute, but no charges had been filed Monday afternoon. Shellie Zimmerman left the house after being questioned by police. George Zimmerman remained there into early evening and his attorney denied any wrongdoing by his client. He was not arrested.

On the 911 call, Shellie Zimmerman is sobbing and repeating "Oh my God" as she talks to a police dispatcher. She yells at her father to get inside the house, saying Zimmerman may start shooting at them.

"He's threatening all of us with a firearm ... He punched my dad in the nose," Shellie Zimmerman said on the call. "I don't know what he's capable of. I'm really scared."



Dr. F.

Boulder climber
SoCal
Sep 9, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
The guy is a menace to society
Throw the creepy cracker in jail, where he belongs
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Sep 9, 2013 - 07:39pm PT
F*#king morons !!!

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 9, 2013 - 08:06pm PT
Just peckerwoods being peckerwoods. She's lucky he didn't shoot. He must've felt threatened.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Sep 9, 2013 - 08:22pm PT
deja vu


Lake Mary police officers were still investigating the encounter as a domestic dispute, but no charges had been filed Monday afternoon. Shellie Zimmerman left the house after being questioned by police. George Zimmerman remained there into early evening and his attorney denied any wrongdoing by his client. He was not arrested.


What are you wearing Shellie?

A hoodie?

Sounds like a situation for eKat. I'll chip in for plane tickets.

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 14, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
It's true! They find the most hysterical, sensationalist broadcasts/articles they can find that reinforce the worldview of their audience and then re-headline them in a manner that redoubles the hysteria!

You criticize this source, but how does it differ than the MSM? This source is picking up the MSM's slack.

Some stories are better than others...
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 15, 2013 - 04:46pm PT
I bet this lady wishes she had a gun when cops failed to respond to her 911 call.

She was raped as a result.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x106oj7_woman-allegedly-raped-by-ex-after-911-call-goes-unanswered_news
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 15, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
No cops to respond since they got laid off after the Republican congress cut off their funds.

Nice. Thanks, GOP!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 20, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
Police are State and County funded, not Federal. Nice try though, Gary.

Dipshit!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 20, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Seems entirely reasonable to me. If someone is forceably entering my house or car I'm gonna be afraid for my life. If I had a gun, I wouldn't think twice about it. If I am elsewhere and someone attacks me, I'm gonna be afraid in that situation, too. People need to act civilly to one another. Breaking into my place or attacking me when I'm out isn't civil behavior. It's hostile aggression, plain and simple. The consequences become their problem. What wrong with that?


Absolutely nothing. It's self-defense.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Nov 7, 2013 - 07:46am PT
In more "there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, it's self defense" news:

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/06/standing_your_ground_black_woman_shot_in_head_seeking_help_in_a_white_neighborhood/







**Standing your ground? Black woman shot in head seeking help in white neighborhood
The family of Renisha McBride, 19, seeks answers after she was shot in the head and the shooter may avoid charges**

“You see a young black lady on your porch and you shoot?” demanded Bernita Sparks, the aunt of slain Detroit 19-year-old Renisha McBride. McBride was shot in the head and killed when, according to her family, she was seeking help, knocking on doors in a white neighborhood after her car crashed.

McBride’s family is asking prosecutors for information on the incident that left the unarmed young woman dead. Scant details have been provided. As the Detroit News reported “Dearborn Heights [Police Department has] identified the person who fired the shot and killed the woman.” However, police have claimed that the shooter believed McBride to be an intruder and shot in self-defense. Initial police reports that described the 19-year-old’s body as having been “dumped” have been amended to state that she was found on the shooter’s porch.

Self-defense gone wrong is not a sufficient excuse for a bullet in the head, McBride’s family has stressed. “He shot her in the head … for what? For knocking on his door,” said Spinks. “If he felt scared or threatened, he should have called 911.”

Police have now asked that charges be brought against the shooter. But since a “stand your ground” law applies in Michigan, the charges may not stick. As Rania Khalek has rightly pointed out on her blog, “The problem with a law like Stand Your Ground is that it excuses and encourages deadly force against ‘perceived’ threats. In the United States, where implicit and structural racism persists on a vast scale, is it wise to empower people who almost certainly have irrational and racist fears.”

And as Khalek notes in the case of McBride’s shooting, “She is after all a black woman from Detroit, which is 82 percent black, whereas Dearborn Heights, the area she was shot in, is 86 percent white … Regardless of your position on Stand Your Ground, one thing is for sure. The family of 19-year-old Renisha McBride deserves answers.”
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 7, 2013 - 07:57am PT
bluering wrote:
Police are State and County funded, not Federal. Nice try though, Gary.

Dipshit!

Hahaha!
Because the number of deputies at Josephine County's Sheriff's Department had been cut following the expiration of the Secure Rural Schools and Community Self-Determination Act - a multimillion- dollar annual federal aid payment for timber-producing counties – the remaining officers were only available 8am to 4pm Monday through Friday.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022888567

Because the number of deputies at Josephine County’s Sheriff’s Department had been cut following the expiration of the Secure Rural Schools and Community Self-Determination Act – a multimillion- dollar annual federal aid payment for timber-producing counties – the remaining officers were only available 8am to 4pm Monday through Friday.
http://shot97.com/2013/05/lady-raped-as-officers-off-duty/

The levy defeat and subsequent dismantling of the sheriff's office, district attorney's staff and juvenile justice program have put Josephine County in a harsh light. Longtime residents say it exposed an anti-government negativity in a place victimized by economic factors it can't control. For decades, Josephine and other Oregon timber counties relied on millions in federal timber sales to pay for sheriff's deputies, jails, roads, prosecutors, health clinics and other services. It seemed a fair deal. Federal land makes up 60 percent of the landbase in some counties, but isn't subject to property taxes. So the feds shared harvest revenue with the counties. They were bound tight. In Josephine County, the shoulder patch on sheriff's uniforms features a loaded log truck. But the near shut-down of logging on federal forests cost the counties dearly. Congress in 2000 approved a payment program to replace the timber money, and extended it twice, but it ended this past year. A proposal to extend the payments once again is stalled in a deadlocked Congress, leaving 33 Oregon counties with combined revenue losses of $215 million annually.
http://photos.oregonlive.com/photo-essay/2012/06/josephine_county_releases_39_p.html

Last year, the Josephine County sheriff’s department lost a multi-million dollar federal subsidy for timber dependent counties.
http://www.opb.org/news/article/josephine-county-tax-levy-would-add-deputies-fund-the-jail/

Hey, bluering! Who's the dipsh#t?

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Nov 11, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
Um, by definition, County and State LEO is funded by such, not Federal money. Try to find a credible source too.

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 12, 2013 - 09:31am PT
bluering, there is none so blind as he who will not see.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Nov 18, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
Yet again.. , girlfriend, Wife.. and ......Trayvon.........zimmerman = que chingadera!

Girlfriend says Zimmerman pointed shotgun at her ..Story and 911 call
http://www.alternet.org/chilling-911-call-where-george-zimmerman-tries-frame-his-girlfriend-after-attacking-her
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Nov 18, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
He's back.

George Zimmerman arrested for domestic violence


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-arrested-20131118,0,1837318.story
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Nov 18, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
Zimmerman's in the news again. Nothing good--allegedly pointed a shotgun at his girlfriend and caused some other mischief.
Assuming he did more-or-less that he's charged with, I suppose we could see this in two ways:
1. He in fact is a violent whack job who likely got away with murder (or manslaughter), or
2. He was so stressed out from the trial (which probably never should have happened--as virtually all the commentators agreed that the state fell woefully short of proving its case) that he's now "acting out," and he's really another victim here.
Or some combination of 1 and 2.

I may be leaning a little toward 1--I'd have thought he'd have learned a lesson and would be careful how he handles a gun, even if the TM case was a bit of a political farce.

Reminds me a little of OJ getting busted for kidnapping -- you think people would be extra careful after getting off on a serious charge, but not these guys.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 18, 2013 - 05:02pm PT
2. He was so stressed out from the trial (which probably never should have happened--as virtually all the commentators agreed that the state fell woefully short of proving its case) that he's now "acting out," and he's really another victim here.

Yep. This is all Trayvon's fault.
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Nov 18, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
boys in hoodies making men with guns pee their pants is so gangsta
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 19, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
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