Surfing v. Climbing... Complimentary Pursuits?

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Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
Ours, near Sydney NSW, Australia. Yet another preternatural yet gorgeous Aussie slab wave, like Shipstern Bluff and The Right.







Wannasurf.com
Wannasurf.com
Credit: Peter Haan
dave

climber
Earth
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
It seems like the surfing world is finally setting their ego aside, just a little, when it comes to surfing big scary life threatning waves now. I made a comment on a surfline forum after Sion Milosky (?) died about how it was strange that when in those types of conditions that they didn't really watch each others backs, they mostly just hoped for the best that no one would get hurt, or that there was enough guys in the water that they could watch out for each other. Total bullshit! They need a guy or 2 on a ski watching everyone, or at least a real buddy system, a surfer and a would be rescuer.In most cases sure, but not at macking Mavs, or Jaws or Todos or Cortez Bank or Ghost Trees etc....they need a surfer and a person who watches their every move in order to be as close to safe as possible. The forum deleted my comment about their reckless and hopeful approach to a good outcome. Granted their have been few deaths comparable to the #'s of guys surfing these huge waves, it would be interesting to know (which is impossible to know) if Foos' death could have been prevented or Sions, we will never know.

Now I guess Greg Long got hammered at Cortez Bank last week had to get picked up by a helicopter and flown back to the main land and finally all those guys are waking up and facing how serious a task they are undertaking when in those conditions, and making commetns about how they need a buddy system and they are all changing their approach.

Retards, though I'm glad they realize the dangers finally.

o-man

Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
Jan 5, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
This Is Worthy!
Credit: o-man
http://www.surfermag.com/videos/departure-delayed/
mustclimbit!

climber
Jan 5, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
climbing > surfing
bajaandy

climber
Escondido, CA
Jan 5, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
o-man, Departure Delayed is more than worthy. Thanks for the clip. So cool to see these once groms forcing the evolution of the sport. Where will it go from here?
east side underground

climber
Hilton crk,ca
Jan 5, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
mustclimbit , you don't surf....... heh heh heh
wstmrnclmr

Trad climber
Bolinas, CA
Jan 5, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
I've posted from a day to day view on this but if I think of the content of the OP and try to answer "complimentary"?
The home break where I grew up has changed greatly but the rock I still love to climb has not. There are definite parallels to both pursuits and the one constant is more physical but mentally, now, entirely different.
What once was a sparsely populated stretch of coast when I first started surfing at age 8 with the same characters and pecking orders is now overrun with the aged (trying not to be too judge-mental) trying to fit their corporate lifestyles (because that's what it takes to be able to afford the lifestyle in California now) into what I grew up with. My home brake is now scathing with forty year old beginners changing the rules of the road and my mental status with it. I haven't been able to adapt.
And this is the fundamental difference for me. The mental aspect of it. And though both rock climbing and surfing both share many characteristics (Surf spots have names and so do climbing routes) the rock is still perfect and uncrowded. Where as my home break, which is only occasionally good, is now always crowded, even when windblown and sloppy, I can always drive to the base of Stateley, swim the lake, put my shoes and chalk bag on and climb a perfect piece of rock, on any given day when the suns out,uncrowded on one of my favorite routes, just like when I first started out.
The rock, to me, is almost always perfect and the permanence is what is so different.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Jan 5, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
The only inherent thing wrong with surfing is "the bizness" lasts only 10 to 180 seconds, usually more like 25 seconds while climbing usually lasts a great deal longer. In this shortness, surfing shares aspects with figure skating, I am afraid.

Thanks O, for the John John video. I'd have to say he is my favorite to watch these days. He seems Honnoldesque even. A new young genius seeker. As Kelly said last year, "John John's going to know the waves on North Shore like no one we've ever seen before".

If asked, I would say the future of the sport is clearly taking those "airs above the ground" and getting them to happen on much larger surf and also continuing the crusade to find even more interesting spots worldwide. So much has been accomplished since the sixties' short board revolution and surfers sure are a bit more community and fellowship-oriented than in the past.

Fairly recent John John diptych:



o-man

Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
Jan 6, 2013 - 02:20am PT
Matt Meola on the wave of the day at Jaws as seen in the just-posted "...
Matt Meola on the wave of the day at Jaws as seen in the just-posted "Jaws Goes Out With A Roar" photo gallery. For more December 31, 2012 action go to http://bit.ly/W3GZqC. Photo by Brent Bielmann
Credit: o-man
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Jan 6, 2013 - 02:38am PT
Peter I have to politely & with all do respect disagree. In surfing the ride is the crux. The minute I hit the water I'm climbing, usually for my life. I've been beaten badly and not even made it passed the break. I had several days last winter & this spring that I managed to get out, but was so beat I barely new where I was.
o-man

Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
Jan 6, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
Here's another image that I took from the cliff above Peahi on NYE 20012
Photo: Olaf Mitchell
Photo: Olaf Mitchell
Credit: o-man
o-man

Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
Jan 7, 2013 - 02:13am PT
Hell Yeah !
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jan 7, 2013 - 02:25pm PT

clean

drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jan 7, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
wstmrnclmr-
the permanence is what is so different.

Yes.
Any wave you get, and especially a good one or a barrel, is the essence of impermanence. A rolling band of energy traveling perhaps thousands of miles, and you were there at the right moment to experience it.
It may be the best wave, or the finest experience of your life or just the day, and when you kick out or reach the beach...it is gone. It remains only in your memory, your heartbeat, or the smile on your face.

This is one reason why surfing is so difficult to learn or get good at.
I always think about how it would be to have to drive up to the boulders just to see if they were there at all.


always there


re:johnjohn (classic stinkeye/cracked smile pic)

I think what we're seeing in guys like him is the same progression we're seeing in climbing with the new genereation.
He grew up with not only modern heavy wave chargers as his mentors and idols but with airs and progressive surfing as the norm. He was learning how to get pitted and bust airs at a very early age. Location, of course had much to do with that, as well as freakish natural talent.
Young climbers these days learn, or at least start climbing on stuff that was pro level not to long ago, with modern hard climbers as their idols.

The whole continuum thing, as well as the history of progression in both pursuits, is something I love thinking about.
Surfing and climbing....the best life.



o-man

Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
Jan 7, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
"Tribal Elders" Dave Kalama, ILima Kalama,Uncle Dougie <br/>
Photo: Bob Gi...
"Tribal Elders" Dave Kalama, ILima Kalama,Uncle Dougie
Photo: Bob Gilbert
Credit: o-man
o-man

Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
Jan 8, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
Two legends Buzzy and Greg "Da bull" Noll <br/>
Photo: Buzzy Kerbox collec...
Two legends Buzzy and Greg "Da bull" Noll
Photo: Buzzy Kerbox collection
Credit: o-man
o-man

Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
Jan 9, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
nathan fletcher - tahiti - sending it... <br/>
Photo from Ian Walsh collec...
nathan fletcher - tahiti - sending it...
Photo from Ian Walsh collection
Credit: o-man
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Jan 9, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
Greg Noll is the sh#t. Read his Biography a while back, really enjoyed reading it. Have you had a chance to check it out.
Another great book is by Mike Doyle called " Morning Glass"

Credit: dirt claud
Credit: dirt claud
marty(r)

climber
beneath the valley of ultravegans
Jan 9, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
http://massifmanagement.com/portfolio/chris-burkard/
http://massifmanagement.com/portfolio/chris-burkard/
Credit: marty(r)

How do you spell RAD in Norwegian?
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
Jan 9, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
^^^Well that just blows the doors off!
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