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dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
May 2, 2019 - 02:05pm PT
If I recall correctly he had come up with a snowboard type device that was similar to two skis together. But he stood on it like skis instead of sideways like a skateboard.


Talk Story 2

Posted on 18 February 2019

There were a lot of advantages growing up surfing in Southern California. One of them when the winter storms would mess up the ocean for surfing, we could drive to the local mountains in a couple of hours and ride frozen water waves. There were a lot of European skiers instructing and free-riding with decades of skiing experience that influenced style and skill. A lot of style is predicated by body shape and mind set. Mike being tall athletic and having the mindset, rapidly became an excellent stylish skier. It was a definite learning advantage to come from a surfing background.

The learning curve usually started with "snowplow" turns as name implies, you form a v shape with the tips of the skis together and the tails of the skis spread apart plowing the snow to control your speed ----- speed is only good if you can control it ------ next came the "stem christie" modifying the snow plow into a turn by splaying the tail of the downhill ski further out from the uphill ski and applying pressure on the downhill edge to initiate a turn. When you mastered the stem christie it was time to "bend zee knees and the ankles keep the tips and the tails together and parallel ski"! Be careful though, do not let the tips of the skis cross or you could be in for a bad fall! Of course, that would happen, sometimes too often!

The creative genius Mike is, he came up with the Ah ha idea ----- all I have to do is glue these skis together, I’ll never "cross my tips together again" and I’ll have sort of a surfboard and call it the "monoski"! Turns out he may not have been the first to come up with that idea, but he rode the heck out of them, his style and skill matched the concept perfectly. It was always fun later on to tease him, Mike, if you had put the bindings in a surf stance you'd be "rich and famous" :-)

https://doylesurfboards.com/blogs/news/talk-story-2

Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
May 3, 2019 - 05:24am PT
dirt claud...
Mike, if you had put the bindings in a surf stance you'd be "rich and famous" :-)
Awesome snippet. Thanks for posting.
rincon

climber
Coarsegold
May 12, 2019 - 04:10pm PT
Cape Fear contest on LIVE now!

https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/video/rrn:content:live-videos:19775d44-afe2-5084-bb7b-40ebd01d7de2/finals-shipstern-bluff-tasmania

Ship Stern Bluff looks like it has a lot of climbing potential.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
May 13, 2019 - 08:50am PT
Ship Stern Bluff looks like it has a lot of climbing potential.

I think there was an incident a few years ago where a large chunk of that cliff fell off during a good swell while cameras were around. I may have seen the videos of that.

I mean, that would never happen on El Cap ;)
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
May 14, 2019 - 06:19am PT
As I get older it's getting more difficult to fit increased volume into my beloved "every day short board": A fairly generic 6'-1" outline. I'm trying to get this board to 34 liters. I've added thickness out towards the rails and widened the nose. At some point, if this thing starts looking like a mini egg, I'll quit surfing.

When I was 40 my volume was 28 liters or: .18 liters per pound (my weight).

.18 L x 155 lbs = 27.9 liters

New old man volume at 53 is .22

.22 L x 155 lbs = 34.1 liters

The reasoning behind the ratio and not going straight to the volume is that I can upsize a board for a guy that weighs 180 for example, who may not be using volume as a component of board design.

.22 x 180 lbs = 39.6 liters.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
May 14, 2019 - 06:23am PT
Contractor, you're athletic. Don't kid yourself. I squeezed 40 liters into a 5.11 just to float my bloated, out-of-shape, corpulent bod. 34 liters... I could sink that :)
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
May 14, 2019 - 06:26am PT
Are you using a program Gunk? BTW- get any waves when you were out here?
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
May 14, 2019 - 06:42am PT
I use BoardCad and then build templates out of 1/8 masonite or luan. I'm 55, soon to be 56, and still ride sub-6 foot boards. But they need to carry volume. I run the rails full, wider planshapes and low entry rocker.

No, we got skunked while in SD; but NJ was firing. Go figure. Will be back out for the June gloom (I think) and then again in early September. Hoping for southern hemis and santa ana winds.

Going to Portugal for the surf trip this year.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
May 14, 2019 - 07:13am PT
D2, you are, were an Oceanside beach break guy. Yeah?
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
May 14, 2019 - 07:19am PT
Portugal is on the hit list for sure!

My Son is heading to Mushrooms in an hour if you guys know of that magic spot. Swell direction seems just right.

And D2, I'm going to hit Rock Creek late summer. Maybe I pick your brain at some point. Looks like there's some nice crack climbing back there.
landcruiserbob

Trad climber
Any island that has waves
May 14, 2019 - 11:48am PT


👌🏽

Aloha
Esparza

Trad climber
Westminster, CA
May 14, 2019 - 12:27pm PT
Here are a few from this past Saturday (5/11/19) and Last night (5/13). pretty fun South for So Cal :-)




brotherbbock

climber
So-Cal
May 14, 2019 - 12:52pm PT
I can't wait to get out...been stuck at work watching the cams. It's killing me inside.
brotherbbock

climber
So-Cal
May 22, 2019 - 01:19pm PT
May the surf gods continue to bless all my salty brothers and sisters...

It has been a good ride, thanks for the stoke, beta, and stories...

Live in the lip, and smoke da crypt...

Shoots....

Bradda BBock

Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
May 22, 2019 - 01:25pm PT
Yep, this has been a good thread!

Brother- Nicaragua?
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
May 22, 2019 - 01:37pm PT
Yep, good thread. Will miss it. The Swaylocks crowd are a bunch of curmudgeons.
Melissa

Gym climber
berkeley, ca
May 22, 2019 - 04:14pm PT
I'll miss this thread. Here are a few cool swells/waves I got to see this winter...and then enjoy a more attenuated version of the energy at other breaks. :-)


Melissa

Gym climber
berkeley, ca
May 22, 2019 - 04:22pm PT
Melissa

Gym climber
berkeley, ca
May 22, 2019 - 04:30pm PT
Honolua was firing double overhead plus one day that happened to coincide with a local contest, so I went out for a look. I have video of this kid getting barreled and just ripping, but not on Youtube...so no share. Find me on instagram if you're curious. :-)

Anyway, watching that wave made every cell in my body ache to be a better surfer.

When I showed up, I thought I was watching the men get tubed. It was the 12-13 year old boys.

Next to me a ~7 year old asked his 8 or 9 year old pal, “When you were out there, was it that big?”

And the elder grom replied matter-of-factly, “Doesn’t matter. If a good one comes, and you’re in the spot, you just go.”

I've replayed that line in my head a hundred times since then...maybe the best thing I learned this winter. Out of the mouths of babes...
brotherbbock

climber
So-Cal
May 23, 2019 - 08:10am PT
Yeah Contractor.

Working on plans to get down there again...

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