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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Jan 28, 2012 - 10:34am PT
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Patrick,
Don't give up please. I would like to see your work. I highly admire John Gill and his climbing accomplishments. He's inspirational.
Will the film be for sale? Obviously, it will since you are taking orders. What is your website again?
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Jan 28, 2012 - 12:27pm PT
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Hmmm...do pullup reps correlate to a simple decline in strength or do cellular changes (loss of mitochondria) and a decline in cardiovascular efficiency have a critical role that effects endurance as opposed to pure strength? What about fast-twitch and slow-twich composition?
Like John, I never worked on two-handed pullup repetitions, and never was able to do more than 25 of those when I did try, even at a time when I could do seven strict one-arm pullups on each arm. The strength for one didn't seem to have much to do with the power-endurance for the other.
Interesting and delightful figures in any case. I really like the idea of becoming retroactively stronger than I ever was. A nice complement to personal rose-colored retrospectives that elevate past performances to ever more impressive (if less believable) heights. Let's hear it for the power of numbers!
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jan 28, 2012 - 01:23pm PT
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I really like the idea of becoming retroactively stronger than I ever was.
i'd settle for becoming retroactively sexier.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2012 - 04:44pm PT
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Hmmm...do pullup reps correlate to a simple decline in strength or do cellular changes (loss of mitochondria) and a decline in cardiovascular efficiency have a critical role that effects endurance as opposed to pure strength? What about fast-twitch and slow-twich composition?
Picky, picky,picky!! Man up, Richard, and show us what you could have done at 30! You too, Kerwin!
;>)
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 28, 2012 - 04:50pm PT
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I really like the idea of becoming retroactively stronger than I ever was.
Relaxed fit jeans aren't a bad idea either, are they?
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Laramie
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Jan 29, 2012 - 08:05pm PT
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jogill,
perhaps it was some 10 years ago that Scientific American reported on rarities of phenomenal muscle strength that were genetically determined and genetically detectable. In the report was a story of searching for some regionally renowned Hungarian stone mason that could lift bigger stones than anyone and he was of small stature. The researchers end up finding the mason and after muscle sampling him find he had a super rare version of high strength muscular cell machinery. It was stated that the rarity of having this gene was something one in a few million people, so we are talking some 5 standard deviations from the norm.
Have you looked into any possible genetic aspects of your phenomenal strength? Today it seems rather commonplace knowledge that the most outstanding sprinters have a superior fast twitch muscle contracting mechanism that only a very small percentage of us posses. The mason had a unusually high "strength twitch" different that an unusually fast twitch.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2012 - 07:13pm PT
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wow, john, i didn't know he was still alive. he looks great in that pic of him at 89. another of those tough little italian guys. how tall was he?
5'7" at 130 lbs. Back in the 1950s that would not have been unusual for American gymnasts. John Beckner, the leading US gymnast was actually 6'1"
Now they are closer to 5'5"
Have you looked into any possible genetic aspects of your phenomenal strength?
Nope. I don't think I was naturally stronger - mostly perserverance!
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Jan 30, 2012 - 07:22pm PT
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I was good for one or two with either arm. Now I am good for one or two with both arms... LOL. I know the feeling.
The only time I could do one arms was following a trip to Italy when I dropped some weight to keep up with the Euros. Funny how when I did a lot of pullups for years I never came close to a one arm but once I just climbed alot of hard stuff for a few weeks it came naturally.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jan 30, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
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You too, Kerwin!
Well, right now i can do zero one arm pullups.
zero times 1.683 = 0 one arms at age 30. trying to remember where i was at age thirty, but somewhere in there i was definitely capable of beating "zero" in one arms. i think there's is a lower limit for the utility of your formula. heh
not sure how many two arms i could do right now-- i quit doing them a long time ago because they seemed to give me elbow problems. and, as you and richard both know, they don't really correlate all that well with proficiency in one-arms or front levers or crosses or the various circus tricks that i cared most about.
pretty sure i cant do a one-arm right now. part of the reason i put myself at risk by offering to do one for pullup day, since it'll force me to get off the swill and into shape if only out of fear of public humiliation.
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