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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 20, 2011 - 01:05pm PT
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pretty sure I got the oldest guy to date ascent of this 5.12 OW, even if it was a TR, guess I'll bring some o them new fangled cam thingies, next time...
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flyingkiwi1
Trad climber
Seattle WA
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Nov 20, 2011 - 01:18pm PT
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I find this paradox about adding years when it comes to the giving and receiving of advice: The older I get, the more wisdom one would think I'd be accumulating, the more I value listening.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Nov 20, 2011 - 01:35pm PT
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Ahh Kids these.... er I mean seniors these days.
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Nov 20, 2011 - 01:40pm PT
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Even when I turn 60 next year, I don't think I'll be a grumpy old woman - I'm quite a happy person - but I would like to put forth a few suggestions for the younger woman climbers out there:
A lot of you start by climbing exclusively with your boyfriend, husband, or significant other. When climbing together...
Don't just blindly follow along. From the very beginning, take some responsibility for the day's activities. Look at the guidebook, know where you're going, make sure you understand the "worst case scenario" plan etc. Learn as much as you can.
Trust your own gut. If something doesn't feel right to you, don't do it. How many times have we all seen a guy urging his female partner to do something she clearly didn't want to do. If you want to prove something to yourself, that's fine. You don't need to prove anything to anyone else. Don't be bullied or cowed in the name of encouragement. Don't go along with an idea just to keep your guy happy.
Both of the above suggestions, and many others, apply to the less experienced partner climbing with the more experienced. But because of the special dynamic between male climbers and their novice female partners, I am emphasizing it here.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Nov 20, 2011 - 01:54pm PT
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Nice job Jay, shouldn't you be teaching about now?
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flyingkiwi1
Trad climber
Seattle WA
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Nov 20, 2011 - 02:03pm PT
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Isn't showing the most effective form of teaching?
Ian, goin' skiin'
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Nov 20, 2011 - 02:05pm PT
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Every day before I get out of bed I spend 5-10 minutes doing excercises in bed - that kick-starts my day and keeps my body and mind as fresh as can be.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2011 - 02:06pm PT
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Great one Hankster. Who is she Marlow? I can recall when 5 or 10 minutes wasn't nearly long enough.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Nov 20, 2011 - 02:10pm PT
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She's one of my dreams... and still it doesn't last more than 5 minutes...
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AKTrad
Mountain climber
AK
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Nov 20, 2011 - 02:10pm PT
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It's an attitude: you just keep going, in spite of the little aches and pains.
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P.Rob
Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
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Nov 20, 2011 - 02:12pm PT
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Age in the Eye of the Beholder: I had two gentlemen patients - one 93 years old the other 96. As I was explaining to the 93yr old the exercise/activity that we were going to do, he voiced some concerns as to his ability to accomplish the task. Quickly and with all vim & vigor the 96yr old shouts out words of encouragement to him, punctuated with the injunction “YOUNG MAN, WAIT TO YOU GET TO BE MY AGE”!!
True Story :0)
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MikeL
climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
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Nov 20, 2011 - 02:17pm PT
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It's turned from "grumpy old men" to "wisdom" in this thread.
It's what people hope for: all the stuff that they've gone through in life must mean that they are wiser for it.
Alas, no. If age was correlated or causal to wisdom, then the world would be getting better over time. I don't think it is.
No matter what a person does (climbing, whatever), it seems that awareness--not age--is the issue.
Wisdom = Awareness
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Nov 20, 2011 - 02:44pm PT
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A statement like "sorry decline" is both ageist bullshit and stupid. It's also probably the path the author will take.
Wow, harsh words Jim. For the record, that was supposed to be mildly sardonic humor. I guess I have to label such attempts with smiley faces, or else face the wrath of grumpy old men.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2011 - 03:57pm PT
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Those were your words Rich? I saw them in another context. From you I would have seen the humor, I was being a little tongue in cheek myself, although on a re-read it sure doesn't come off that way- sorry.
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Nov 20, 2011 - 04:01pm PT
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Not to worry Jim. Happy Thanksgiving!
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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Nov 20, 2011 - 05:13pm PT
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Ha! Being a grumpy old f#%k is something I'm proud of. Just last week I made a bouldering chick cry
at the gym just by snarling at her. You know who you are. Take your green smoothie and get outta
my way. Don't come back! If you don't wanting me staring at you put on some god damn clothes.
Sorry the men's bathroom was locked. heh...heh....heh. I've been biter since '71 went she left me for
him.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 20, 2011 - 05:29pm PT
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It is all very simple; when you get to a fork in the road then take it.
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Nov 20, 2011 - 06:57pm PT
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When the epic detector warning light starts flashing, never put duct tape over it.
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gonamok
climber
dont make me come over there
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Nov 20, 2011 - 09:14pm PT
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When the red light goes on in your head, listen to it. Doesnt matter if youre leading, soloing, skiing or playing tiddlywinks, listen to that innate inner guardian. When it says go down, dont rationalize or screw around, go down.
The other one is dont cheat on your wife
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