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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
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Tami... By no means am I surprised there are good looking guys and gals at the event! I just found it humorous that someone made a video specific to that aspect. And... I would love to see the Hot Chicks teabaggin' I mean... Hot Chicks of the Tea Party Movement video.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Oct 27, 2011 - 07:14pm PT
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Yes, it seems every tweinty year old has tats now, a sign of conformity.
I can recall a time that many of us may remember when white painters pants and headbands were standard-issue garb in Cali. Guess us outlaw insurgent hardman climbing bums were a bunch of noodling insecure conformists.
Who woulda thunk it?!
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2011 - 07:17pm PT
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I found the Hotties of the Tea Party!
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johngenx
climber
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Oct 27, 2011 - 07:18pm PT
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so, which of us is not "conforming" to our societal norms? Even climbers considering themselves rogues operating outside of the mainstream have norms and elements that identify them to their tribe.
I suppose what I mean is the direct or overt pressure to conform. When I was in industry, the pressure to wear a certain type of clothing, have a specific haircut, live in a certain neighbourhood, and drive a certain type of car was more than overt. You would be ostracized and excluded if you did not conform. I wonder if the folks at OWS would turn their backs on me were I to show up without my purple hair, no piercings, and no ink. (I don't have tats or holes...) I doubt it.
In retrospect, my point is probably more about acceptance than conformity.
I still stand by the fact that the protests are true to the spirit of the US and it's foundations. Since when was it anti-American (unpatriotic) to not speak out when you see what you think is injustice?
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 27, 2011 - 07:20pm PT
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John, yer only allowed to protest if you hate Obama.
Now get back in line.....
This girl has a piercing AND a tat.
Clearly she cannot be taken seriously.
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johngenx
climber
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Oct 27, 2011 - 07:40pm PT
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I have had a chance to listen to many of the people that are there, and I don't get the sense that most (everyone's different...) want to chuck the whole thing out. What people are angry at is the outright theft that has been taking place (Iraq war, etc) essentially draining the US Treasury into the bank accounts of a few wealthy individuals.
Warren Buffet, perhaps America's most ardent capitalist, has supported systemic changes that would eliminate the current tax structure that allows him to pay a lower rate than most of his employees. The rules of the game have been altered by a certain few players to benefit only those players.
The result is a decrease in economic mobility. Isn't one of the foundations of the US built on the idea of opportunity? When the so-called level playing field is tilted to an extent that is so steep that it concentrates the wealth and power in the nation in the hands of so few, I think that flies in the face of what your nation stands for.
Trickle-down economics were never designed to benefit anyone other than wealthiest few. What has been trickling down? Nothing in terms of economic benefit. The only trickle has been tinkle. (yes, they're pissing on everyone!) Wages have been stagnant except within the tiny minority of high income earners. Corporate profits have been massive, and yet unemployment remains high. Why? Fear means companies can drive the workers they have harder and not hire new ones. Lack of competition means companies don't have the need to reinvest those profits, and jobs are not created. "We're the JOB CREATORS" the wealthy keep bleating. Bull$hit. ~10% measured unemployment (reality is higher) shows that it ain't working.
People want a strong and prosperous society where the economic system serves the needs of the people. All the people.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 27, 2011 - 08:01pm PT
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Keep it coming John.
The war pigs will keep slinging and grabbing and stealing no matter what you say.
Mental is not a war pig, he's just a conformist....HAAA!!!
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Oct 27, 2011 - 08:12pm PT
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As far as what an employer is looking for, they want both someone who can do the job, whatever it is, and they want someone that represents whatever values the company has (or lacks).
If I went to Middle Way Cafe to get a hummus sprout and red onion sandwhich on an organic multi grain bread and I found the young adult that took my order was dressed like a NY banker, I'd likely be suspicous. Purple hair and piercings, I expect it.
My company has a dress code, they want to display a level of professionalism to our clients. I also had pre-employment drug testing, and am subjected to random drug tests. I don't have a problem with that.
My only beef with the Occupy croud is it's easy to sit around and beotch and moan. What is needed are concrete solutions to the problems we face in this country. I've seen it repeatedly in business, politics, and the public at large. Everyone is willing to chip in 2 cents to complain, hardly anyone is willing to offer a solution and roll their sleaves up to get to work solving the problems.
If we have crooks on Walstreet and in Washington DC, and assuredly we do, then investigate, prosecute and incarcerate. You don't have to get all the bastards, get the worst and the others will surely clean up their act.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Oct 27, 2011 - 08:26pm PT
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Way lame to hate on patchouli.
Way lame.
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Reggaemylitis
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Oct 27, 2011 - 08:41pm PT
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I thought this thread was going to be about Maria Bartiromo! She was ridiculous hot to me 15 years ago when I was in college. I'd still probably leverage her assets, if you know what I mean, and I think you do!
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 27, 2011 - 08:53pm PT
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The pierced one speaks. She just sent me an email note she wanted to share.
I read the posts in this thread and find it pretty offensive. I'm not a stinky hippie who can't hold a job. I have a total of 11 piercings, a tattoo and have had purple hair. I have a great job with a pretty conservative company. I don't get piercings to be a "non-conformist" I do it because it makes me happy. It's about being me and really nothing more. My dad was right when he said conformity comes in every color, shape and size you can think of.
Those women are beautiful inside and out because they're doing something true to their hearts and being who they want to be. Until you're on the streets standing up for what you believe in, don't judge those women. Thanks.
Arrrrgghhhh, she is pierced and tatted, she has no right to speak!!!
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 27, 2011 - 09:12pm PT
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No. They're far too ugly to be on the street for what they believe.
BWA HA HA HA hahahaaaa!!! Kidding of course.
Did you just call Obama a monkey you racist booger eater?
BTW the Union Label women are better looking than those tea party gals.
At least they're different colors.....
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Oct 27, 2011 - 09:37pm PT
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F*#k you Toadgas, you racist prick.
The guy shooting video of women without their permission to post on the internet because he thinks they're "hot" is the very definition of a creeper.
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Reeotch
Trad climber
Kayenta, AZ
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Oct 27, 2011 - 10:17pm PT
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Didn't realize there were so many bigoted masoginistic haters on this forum . . .
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deschamps
Trad climber
Out and about
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Oct 27, 2011 - 11:54pm PT
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That is a beautiful video.
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johngenx
climber
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Oct 28, 2011 - 12:37am PT
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Well, I admit that many of the women in the video were easy on the eyes. However, I also think they're very attractive in that they're speaking out for what they believe in.
As to the Tea Party folks, I believe in their right to speak as well. I don't agree with them, but I want their thoughts expressed. I wish so many of them didn't wrap their ideas in hatred.
Some might think that the ridiculous hatred that is racist, homophobic and sexist should be suppressed. No. If we bury the hatred, it festers and grows like an untreated infection. In the light, it can be identified and countered.
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johngenx
climber
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Oct 28, 2011 - 12:52am PT
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survival: Based on what your daughter wrote, she's a pretty incredible young woman. Way to go. I see this forming in my own 12yr old, (we have the same shade of purple..!) and hope she's on the same path.
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Happy Boulders
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Oct 28, 2011 - 12:58am PT
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My only beef with the Occupy croud is it's easy to sit around and beotch and moan. What is needed are concrete solutions to the problems we face in this country. I've seen it repeatedly in business, politics, and the public at large. Everyone is willing to chip in 2 cents to complain, hardly anyone is willing to offer a solution and roll their sleaves up to get to work solving the problems.
If we have crooks on Walstreet and in Washington DC, and assuredly we do, then investigate, prosecute and incarcerate. You don't have to get all the bastards, get the worst and the others will surely clean up their act. I tend to agree, but let's here what Warren Buffett has to say.
"I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all
sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election. The 26th
amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months
& 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in
1971...before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Of the 27 amendments to
the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the
land...all because of public pressure.
Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of
twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do
likewise.
In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the
message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.
*Congressional Reform Act of 2011*
1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office
and receives no pay when they are out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All
funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security
system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system,
and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for
any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans
do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay
will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the
same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American
people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12.
The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen
made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor,
not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours
should serve their term's), then go home and back to work.
If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take
three days for most people (in the U.S.) to receive the message. Maybe it is
time.
THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!! If you agree with the above, pass it on.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 28, 2011 - 01:06am PT
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Thanks gents. I do feel like she has grown into an amazing person who is braver than many around her.
At least I feel like she and I are speaking what we feel. A lot of my old pals from special ops think I'm nuts I guess.
Toad, why don't you say what's on your mind instead of just deep sarcasm? It's hard to tell what's real there. I mean I like sarcasm too, but I try to color it with straight up speech too. Some of the gang I've known the longest here I can read better.
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Peter
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Oct 28, 2011 - 01:51am PT
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10b4me
check snopes before passing on misinformation
http://goo.gl/hM1V1
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