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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Oct 31, 2014 - 09:18pm PT
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"[Core concepts: All humans have souls. Souls are software objects. Software is not immortal.]" — Accelerando (Singularity), Charles Stross
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 31, 2014 - 09:45pm PT
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All humans have souls. Souls are software objects. Software is not immortal
The living entity IS the soul, not has a soul.
The material body is the covering.
Whatever consciousness the soul develops that will be it's material body covering.
When your consciousness becomes too attached to your dog at the time of your last breath and you will enter a dogs body in your next life.
The living entity (soul) is eternal and can transmigrate from body to body according to it's desires.
The gross material scientists are completely bewildered by birth death disease and old age.
The have no clue how to stop these yet the entire material consciousness is fixed on trying .....
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WBraun
climber
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Thus the graph on the left (non psychedelic) represents the clear clean.
The graph on the right (psychedelic) represents the power of the illusionary energy creating the mirage.
Thus the clearer the better.
This how the phrase "Zen mind beginner mind" came.
Not that the mind is under control of the inferior illusionary energy and full of nonsense.
All the greatest advanced souls all rejected the material intoxicants of the inferior illusionary energy.
If one so desires to remain in the mode of ignorance then all the facilities of the inferior material intoxicants
are available to keep one bewildered and in poor fund of knowledge .......
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Tired, didactic, unsubstantiated historic memes. Software is not immortal.
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MH2
climber
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Software is not immortal.
Though if we make the umbrella large enough, DNA is making a long run.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Agreed Warner, but I think the point Sam was trying to make is that most people are so tied to the rational material model that they can't imagine any other world view until they take a psychedelic. Every ashram I've ever visited, more than half the people there told me they got interested in meditation after taking psychedelics.
It might apply the other way around too. For those people lost in the experiences of the astral world, seeing what is really going on in their brain, might help them to understand that's not the goal.
Right now what the scientists are doing is trying to establish some kind of baseline for understanding brain connections and how they function and malfunction. The article concluded with the usual, the connections are so complex they don't have the tools to make a 3-D model yet and nobody knows what consciousness really is.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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DNA is the design file for how to manufacture the hardware.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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"Verdi", my new anti-housefly defense system.
What does Verdi think?
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Many years ago I took an entire day to reflect on the phenomenon of ingratitude. This reflection was provoked by witnessing one person selflessly go out of his way for another--- at a considerable risk. Although both were strangers to one another--- nevertheless there was no good reason for the recipient of this favor to ignore the clear requirement to show gratitude by a simple "thank you" . The recipient merely grunted, sneered, and went on his way.
At the time I was somewhat distracted by my own reaction, which consisted of a near complete inability to understand the unabashed mind of the ingrate. The more I thought about it ,the more confounded I became; despite my intuitive grasp that something psychologically abnormal had definitely taken place. Since then I have witnessed other examples of crude and straightforward ingratitude of the sort that could not be mistaken for anything but.
So it was there I left matters to marinate ---as I am want to do; preferring to figure out some puzzles for myself.
Until yesterday---when again I witnessed one stranger being openly generous to another without as much as a "thanks" in response. Perhaps it had been the surly and agressive way the recipient had turned away, revealing for an unguarded moment his inner self ,that gave me my long-awaited epiphany as regards the true nature of extreme ingratitude.
When I got home I immediately went to the computer and punched in Psychopathy Checklist
There it was #12
Hare's PCL-R 20-item checklist is based on Cleckley's 16-item checklist, and the following is a discussion of the concepts in the PCL-R.
But first of all, here is Cleckley's original list of symptoms of a psychopath:
1. Considerable superficial charm and average or above average intelligence.
2. Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
3. Absence of anxiety or other "neurotic" symptoms considerable poise, calmness, and verbal facility.
4. Unreliability, disregard for obligations no sense of responsibility, in matters of little and great import.
5.Untruthfulness and insincerity
7. Antisocial behavior which is inadequately motivated and poorly planned, seeming to stem from an inexplicable impulsiveness.
7.Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
8.Poor judgment and failure to learn from experience
9. Pathological egocentricity. Total self-centeredness incapacity for real love and attachment.
10. General poverty ot deep and lasting emotions.
11. Lack of any true insight, inability to see oneself as others do.
12. Ingratitude for any special considerations, kindness, and trust.
13. Fantastic and objectionable behavior, after drinking and sometimes even when not drinking--vulgarity, rudeness, quick mood shifts, pranks.
14. No history of genuine suicide attempts.
15. An impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated seX life.
16. Failure to have a life plan and to live in any ordered way, unless it be one promoting self-defeat.
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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15. An impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated seX life.
Is seX > sex ?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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A bit of research could garner you the name of the hapless typist responsible for that error. A discussion with same might quench your burning desire in this regard.
If that happens don't forget to say "thank you"
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Such are the pitfalls when this complex subject is approached vis a vis CNN or CBS or whatever network it was .
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Well, contact her and tell her that you are "DMT" and you'd like her to take you.
She said she wanted to in the news piece.
I believe her.
( I know this is silly but you gotta do something while cooking Broccoli)
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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I know I like my drone better, even if it does seem to have a thing for my face
Verdi is a sweetheart. Will you clone one for me?
Therapy drone?
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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A statement by Kokyo Henkel (zen teacher at Santa Cruz Zen Center)regarding intoxicants.
Thank you for the post Chris Bennett and for your soma thesis, a well-reasoned response to Wasson, McKenna, etc... I have found it surprising that in the volumes of monastic precepts and regulations taught by the Buddha, which are some of the oldest known texts attributed to him, he speaks of many different kinds of foods and medicines that are permitted and not permitted for the monks to use, but there is no mention of any "intoxicant" other than various types of fermented alcohol. There are records of cannabis use by Indian yogis long before the Buddha up to the present day, so it is interesting to me that the Buddha never mentions it. Again and again he said that alcohol ought not to be consumed, as it leads to heedlessness (breaking other precepts, i.e. harming others). The ancient and modern commentaries also make the point that not drinking alcohol is not an ethical issue in and of itself, just that it tends to lead to carelessness about the welfare of others which is an ethical issue. In China, the precept is also translated as not drinking alcohol, but when Buddhism began to thrive in America in the 1960's at the height of widespread drug use, this fifth precept began being translated as "not consuming intoxicants" and now that is the general understanding in this country - to the point where people quote the Buddha as saying one should refrain from all intoxicants... The main point of the Buddha's precepts, especially the Mahayana Bodhisattva precepts, is not harming others (or oneself). Therefore, if we are doing anything to alter our experience (such as consuming food, drink, entertainment, facebook, meditation, drugs, etc), the most important point (it seems to me) is asking: Is this harmful to others or myself? Is this beneficial? What is my intention?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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amain.com can clone Verdi for 30 bucks, no tax, free shipping. Six color options. Arrives in about 3 days. I recommend buying extra rotors.
Flying it is very meditative. The pilot must remain very calm or Verdi tends to attack things.
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Is Verdi conscious? Since it seems to like to go after your face I suspect it is. Are flies conscious? They certainly delight in challenging my fly swatter. Do flies meditate? It appears they do as they bask in warm sunlight. Indeed, what is the mind of a fly? Will we ever know? But what is it to "know?" Do living creatures dwell at quantum levels? Does entanglement actually transmit knowledge at faster than light speeds? Is there evidence of entanglement in the human mind? Does Tim Folger have a clue what he is writing about? Could John L do a better job of explaining quantum complexities? Are essential singularities ripples in the fabric of the complex plane?
Questions ad infinitum . . .
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Verdi is conscious - he is an extension of my consciousness. When I fly Verdi - I append him to my body map - rather imperfectly.
Larger drones are much easier to fly. They're not buffeted by the slightest drafts, nor are they beholden to feedback from their own prop wash. Many of them also have more smarts like auto hover. I think Verdi's probably the most difficult drone to get to do exactly what you want. Verdi is so subject to ground effects that the only way to land it any where near where you want is to hover at about 6 inches, cut power, and just drop it. Any lower and it wildly skims around at high speed. Verdi also sticks to the ceiling. Sometimes the only way to get it off is to cut power until it drops then slam it back on to save it just in the nick of time.
Experimenters have wired up a live beetle and flown it with a joy stick. I hope it was in a padded room for the beetle's sake. I can't imagine trying to fly anything smaller than Verdi didn't involve a fair amount of less than perfect landings.
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