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BLUEBLOCR
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joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 04:26pm PT
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So many words...
What does it say of the experienced and the experience of fiddle playing between the 9yro virtuoso who can play Mozart by ear, and the 40 year veteran who can't stay in pitch?
Words on the table can fill that gap!
i've missed you guys! i just spent a week at Big Bear ending summer vacation with my 8yro daughter. Tomorrow school starts!
She asked me to teach her how to catch fish. You can't imagine how tickled that made me feel.. Fishing is prolly the one extracurricular experience i have the most experience in.
The difference between "fishing" and "catching fish" has a few words to cause a different-ion.
i myself am grateful for so many words, otherwise you wouldn't be in my life..
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 04:57pm PT
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My latest issue of Scientific American showed up today,
Base, by coincidence i bought SA special collectors edition that same day.
Secrets of the Universe, Past, Present, Future.
Did you see it? i'm start'in it tonight. i'll look for the one on evolution and get back to ya!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:08pm PT
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The monk replied; "This is my nature".
i heard that story years ago. maybe even when i was about 12 or 15? Never forgot it Huge impact! Made sense many times..
i think ur last two posts were ur best..... for the masses.
but between me and you, almost everyone is a bullseye!!
Edit: sorry, i meant ur last three.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:21pm PT
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Some of you people are the scorpions .......
In other words, "some of us" are the heavies, the villains --- with Largo's posts amounting to humanitarian public service announcements designed to save us from ourselves.
Why couldn't we have been tiny little furry flying bats suffering from rabies and mindlessly biting the heroic monk who must go through the agonizing anti-rabies protocol of endless hypodermic shots in a hospital somewhere in Katmandu?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:52pm PT
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^^^ You prolly will be in ur next life, according to the Duck!
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Aug 24, 2014 - 05:57pm PT
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Or maybe we can be "aye-ayes" who instead of hurting the monk simply just scares the hell out of him with our good looks:
Now tell me ---isn't that fellar worth saving from drowning--- unconditionally, without strings.?
It's as if he is saying with his eyes: " I can't swim...save me or die!"
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
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Yea well everyone with eyes has a soul, worth saving!
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Aug 24, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
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And I picked up a copy of the Human Evolution SA this afternoon. It's my Sunday night reading.
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MH2
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Aug 24, 2014 - 07:34pm PT
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Good answer, Werner.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 08:02pm PT
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That's OK - it's the journey that matters. The voyage of discovery, no matter how elementary the results, provides satisfaction. That should be the motivating factor for anyone getting into science or math.
Forgive me if i'm off base(i love stealing bases in baseball), but aren't most/alot of mathematical questions solved, atleast through college? (besides trying to predict everthing as a mathematical equation). i was just telling my daughter today that math is the easiest class she'll ever take, because all the answers are known. All that she has to do is to understand and agree with them. Am i wrong?
So whats so great about the journey? That's like following a map from Maine to ElCap. And saying "Yea the map works" For some, map reading is easy, some it's not. If they both end up at the base of ElCap, is it the journey that mattered, or the fact that they both deciphered the truth?
And what kind of journey is it if the truth is already declared?
Is it a journey to agree upon an established truth?
Or it's a journey to change a mis-truth into a truth?
What does "Really Matter"?
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Aug 24, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
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^^^^^ Maybe someone else will deal with this . . .
I'm tired. Sick for a week. Getting old is the pits!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 08:58pm PT
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Getting old is the pits!
NoWay!
Isn't the older the truth gets, the more verifiable it is?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Aug 24, 2014 - 09:17pm PT
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Forgive me if i'm off base(i love stealing bases in baseball), but aren't most/alot of mathematical questions solved, atleast through college? (besides trying to predict everthing as a mathematical equation). i was just telling my daughter today that math is the easiest class she'll ever take, because all the answers are known. All that she has to do is to understand and agree with them. Am i wrong?
what do you mean to say "most/alot of mathematical questions" are solved...
if you are asking about questions like 1+1=2 there are an infinite number like it, and we know how to solve them all, do you know how we know?
or 3x+2 = 7 solve for x
we can do those too
or
3^2 + 4^2 = 5^2
we can do that... you might even use it in construction to lay out a 90º corner...
but those are mathematical operations, not mathematics...
a mathematical question might be related to that last one...
does a solution exist for which integers n
N^n + M^n = L^n
where N, M and L are integers greater than zero?
That took 358 years to work out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermat's_Last_Theorem
most mathematical questions are being worked out...
the path leads to places from the known regions on the map to the unknown... and what awaits us in the unknown are, well, not known. but you can't know unless you go there.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
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Great, you showed me how much exhaustingly endless work there is to do on operations. 356 yrs? That must have been pre-computers?
All that she has to do is to understand and agree with them.
My narrowedly mind must have been focused on the here and now in todays job market. And not that of a Mathematician.
Mostly i was trying to discern the linear truth of Mathematics and that of playing the fiddle.
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BLUEBLOCR
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joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 10:26pm PT
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we can do that... you might even use it in construction to lay out a 90º corner..
Nah! i jus use The Construction Master calculator trademarked to multiply in inches and feet. Wish i had thought of that one back in 88' It calculates diagonals and pitches. It takes away the motivation to think.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Aug 24, 2014 - 10:56pm PT
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My narrowedly mind must have been focused on the here and now in todays job market. And not that of a Mathematician.
worse than that, you think that the skill of doing arithmetic operations has some relevance to today's job market. Critical thinking is probably a better skill to develop, and you can do that puzzling out the answers to mathematical questions, by doing mathematics.
whether or not you become a mathematician...
do you believe that she should just learn the alphabet, and some rules of grammar? and only the simplest means of communicating with language, oral and written?
and whose to say she couldn't make a living as a mathematician? or even solve one of those long standing mathematical questions?
but to say that she shouldn't have to worry if something difficult confronts her because it is irrelevant to "real life" seems a bit defeatist and maybe not the best life lesson to teach.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 11:21pm PT
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They use mathematical function and presence of mind,
My point precisely. All RN's are taught those number equations, and more. It's all elementary linearalogy up through surgeons. It's all about narrowing in down and pinpointing the one chaotic numerical activity.
As opposed to fiddle playing, where the chaotic numerical activity is the "bending" or "streching/shrinking" of the notes and the spaces between.
Both are chaotic and random, thus undetermined mathematically.
In another words you couldn't put a mathematical equation on Myles Davis. Or whoever plays the fiddle like Myles plays the trumpet.
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BLUEBLOCR
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joshua tree
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Aug 24, 2014 - 11:32pm PT
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^^^NoOne can play like Jimmie!
edit: He could be recorded and duped. But NOT predicted!
edit:edit: 4/4 can be predicted. Jimmie/Myles NO!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Aug 25, 2014 - 08:55am PT
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mathematicians are highly creative people...
and mathematics is a highly creative activity...
you like some music, and dislike other music... and probably have an opinion, where does that come from? you think it is not predictable?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Aug 25, 2014 - 09:08am PT
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Creativity is mostly about breaking existing rules, and integrating and extending what already exists, and capitalizing on what originally may be viewed as 'mistakes'. Hendrix was an amazing blues artist before he blew the lid off of rock and roll - which, in itself, sprung for pre-existing genres. His electric guitar originally hails from jazz, and his slide guitar style originated in Africa. To that he added huge, strong hands for his single-handed style and the occasional dose of lighter fluid.
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