New belay device?: Climbing Technology Alpine Up

more IDIOT shyt to further attempt to ROB and DUMB DOWN climbers...

"I have both the click up and the alpine up. While at first appearing complicated they are both very easy to use and there is no way you can insert the rope backwards as the devices will work both ways with a safe amount of friction unlike the gri gri and others.

The device has two modes:1 Regular belay where you must have your hand on the brake and the device has minimal friction. 2 the device is in the locked position. The belayer could let go of the brake to perform duties.

When you lock off hard or the leader falls you will see the device slip into its lock position, also an audible click confirms your in the braked position, you can belay lead with the locked mode on but it requires some teqnike like a gri gri. Otherwise unlock and belay as normal.

You may use two ropes from 8mm up to 11mm, belay two people at once much easier than any guide device from BD or PETZL. Rappelling and lowering is simple and secure even with the rope in the device backwards. THE BEST PART OF ALL IS THIS DEVICE TAKES OUT ROPE TWISTS LIKE AN ATC DOES. The SMART, and many other "assisted auto lock" devices twist the rope badly like a figure 8 does.

with a carabiner It weighs less than a gri gri sans carabiner. The way it is engineered the alpine up will never wear out from normal rope wear, but after some years you will burn threw a carabiner.
(I rap with a 7mm retrieval cord and a 9.8mm lead line threw the device at the same time, The device handles both ropes at the same time easily) "

The final certification process highlighted the need for a design modification to guarantee the REVO’s performance across the widest possible spectrum of rope diameters and whilst we regret that this will delay its release, ultimately we are pleased to be working with a certification body that has helped us to realise our ambition of producing the safest belay device on the market. Wild Country will begin production of the REVO with a new supplier that specialises in precision manufacture to deliver an exceptionally high level of finish to our new innovation. We now aim to deliver the REVO for resale to commence in the winter of this year and rather than committing to a new date we will confirm a new timeline once manufacture is confirmed.

we are all guinea pigs for new climbing technology

for walls or long multi pith the Grigri still has a place

If that wasn't entirely self-explanatory I'm not sure I'd be of any further assistance in clarifying it

I'm curious... what does a Grigri offer that another device cannot replace? For example, for now, I feel that Click-Up does everything better than Grigri for what they are designed for.

I'm guessing you may not understand how to do the "new" Grigri quick-feed?
I could see not liking a Grigri if you try to use it like an ATC.
But once you learn to quick feed and use it like most dedicated, experienced sport climbers do (which is to pretty much stand there and throw out rope with the quick-feed), life is good.

I'm not staring down my nose, but rather at the fact such devices breed incompetence on a mass scale,

Rgold, where are you finding the recall?

UPDATE 18/12/17: Wild Country have delayed the release of this until further notice. Not expected to be released before March 2018.

I just got a call from MEC (Mountain Equipment Co-op) that they are recalling the Revo due to manufacturing issues.

The plastic clip that opens the device can fail under high-loads, and they have had several cases. They also said that it is limited to the batch Canada received.

I'm hoping it self feeds a little smoother than the Grigri for self belay however smooth self-feeding could result in a whole host of other issues. I definitely wouldn't rush out and take falls on it.

Correction- not self feeding- pulling slack at a stance.

People who are incompetent with a gri-gri would probably be incompetent with an ATC, or a munter, or a hip belay.

. . . that said, there are a few things I don’t like about it (in comparison with what we have available today):
1) Heavy
2) Moving parts on the device.
3) This is the last straw for me: I find that the bend to the side (required for fast rope payout) might ever slightly introduce a little twist into the rope when feeding through. The effect becomes prominent on full 80m rope cragging, where at the end of the lowering, I have to constantly shake out the kinks.
4) Designed for right handed people (don't matter to me, but I know people who have trouble with it). . . .

Except the latter three don't actively breed incompetence.

I'm not staring down my nose, but rather at the fact such devices breed incompetence on a mass scale, but carry on...

I've heard people claim Grigri twists rope; my rope often seems to get twisted whether I use Grigri or not (e.g., from lowering two horizontally spaced, poorly oriented rings), so I never know if the Grigri is to blame!
If so, that could be a good reason to use another device.