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Trad climber
Aug 3, 2011 - 07:53am PT
Gunkie, I'm a Fitzgerald lover myself. Reading him on the East Coast must be a kick.

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 3, 2011 - 09:42am PT
Um Riley, it was the aristocracy, not the proletariat, that the Bolsheviks ( who were larley made up of proletariat) had a problem with...

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Aug 3, 2011 - 10:23am PT
Just finished:

"The Personal Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant"

Completely riveting....the man was truly badass!

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Aug 3, 2011 - 10:56am PT
Just started - Ender in Exile - big fan of Orson Scott Card
Tony Bird

Northridge, CA
Aug 3, 2011 - 12:35pm PT
hell by robert owen butler.

this book updates dante's inferno. just about anybody who was anybody has wound up in hell, including dante himself and his strangely platonic inspiration, beatrice. humphrey bogart is down there too, trying forever to find lauren bacall (instead he finds skinny, anorexic beatrice).

hell involves perpetual suffering, pain, and worst of all, frustration, but by the end of this little romp, it has grown on you, and like the protagonist, a damned television anchorman still devoted to the principles of journalism, you learn to love it.

Trad climber
Aug 3, 2011 - 08:38pm PT
I read the Krakauer book some years back. All I remember (as with most of Jon's stuff) is it seemed more aimed at making money for Jon through sensationalism rather than enlightening people. But the Mormon's do have their "difficult to explain to non-believers" stuff. One thing I got from "Mormon America" is that they are not all blind followers. The Mormons evidently actually do have educated theologians who try their best to articulate explanations of their beliefs, rather than just quoting verses from the book of Mormon from rote memory. But as some of their own leaders have expressed, they are a young church and will need time to perfect their theological apologetics. But in the meantime, there is an awful lot of unquestioned faith in their leaders statements. Too much for comfort for me, and this from someone in a very "authority-centric" tradition.

Re: Banner -IMHO its easy to take cheap shots at anything - particularly religion, harder to maintain realistic balance.

San Diego, CA
Aug 3, 2011 - 08:46pm PT
The Broom of the System - David Foster Wallace

Trad climber
East Coast US
Aug 3, 2011 - 10:31pm PT
Gunkie, I'm a Fitzgerald lover myself. Reading him on the East Coast must be a kick.

Yeah, very familiar ground in This Side of Paradise. We live about 40 minutes from Princeton and my older daughter attends summer softball camp at the Lawrenceville School. One issue with the book, when Amory Blaine and gang are bivying on the beach at Asbury Park NJ, Fitzgerald talks about Amory trying to stay up to watch the moon settle into the ocean. Well, being the east coast, the moon rises from the ocean. Oops.

Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
Aug 4, 2011 - 02:07am PT
Just finished, The Help by Kathryn Stockett and Irvin Yalom's Staring at the Sun, Overcoming the Terror of Death. Yalom is an existentialist Psychologist and I enjoy his perspective on life and insight into the human condition.
Right now reading, The Wife by Meg Wolitzer~ into it and enjoying it.

This summer have read one book after another, quite a break from all the studying I had to do during the previous months. A treat now!

Aug 4, 2011 - 04:28am PT
How to Climb 5.12 (Eric J. Horst)

Performance ROCK CLIMBING (Dale Goddard and Udo Neumann)

Big Walls (John Long and John Middendorf)

Climbing Your Best: Training to Maximize Your Performance (Heather Reynolds Sagar)

A Falcon Guide: Conditioning for Climbers (Eric J. Horst)

Climbing Anchors (John Long and Bob Gaines)

CLIMBING SELF-RESCUE: Improvising Solutions for Serious Situations (Andy Tyson and Molly Loomis)

Basic Rockcraft (Royal Robbins)

And coming soon

How not to Knot the ends of your rope if rapping on a Gri-Gri(TM)

Just a sample of other stuff to read

As far I go anything written with half a brain who's not me.

Edited for spellng

Aug 4, 2011 - 05:42am PT
No replies must of forgotten this is not a climbers forum?

If that's the case

Existentialism from Dostoevsky to Sartre (selected and introduced by WALTER KAUFMANN)

Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand)

And so on and so forth

Twain (any of his)

Vonoghut (most of his)

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 4, 2011 - 10:22am PT
The Proletariat has nothing to lose but his chains,"- Karl Marx.
-And Fattrad's cool hat to gain!

next book I want to read, "The Posessed"- not the Dostoyevskii novel by the same name, (aka 'The Demons') But a new whimsical/ scholarly book by a young woman who is a russian literary scholar and writs about traveling in russia seeking out various various russian literary roots...

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Aug 4, 2011 - 10:34am PT
Salt (awesome)
Born to Run
Wings of Steel (no kidding, I snagged a copy)
The Foundation (Isamov, is taking months to finish)

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 4, 2011 - 10:41am PT
Here's the proof from Moscow's Revolution Square...

Proletarians of all countries, unite!
Proletarians of all countries, unite!
Credit: Reilly
Tattooed 1

Trad climber
Sebastopol, Ca
Aug 4, 2011 - 10:47am PT
Credit: Tattooed 1
A graphic account of the rise and fall of the Comanche Nation. A very good read.

back in Tuscon Aridzona....
Aug 4, 2011 - 11:05am PT
Way of the Superior Man - David Deida.

It's one reason I'm certain I pass (or am I trying to fail?) the Man Test
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 4, 2011 - 11:09am PT
is that Salt by Kurlansky?
Interesting book, but Cod is better.

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Aug 4, 2011 - 11:14am PT
Ron, yes Kurlanski.
I agree. I read Cod last winter and it was better.
I'm now looking for more food history books as both are pretty fascinating.

Trad climber
Aug 4, 2011 - 11:18am PT
A Feast for Crows. Awesome series!

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 4, 2011 - 02:40pm PT
D'oh! I was thinking that, The piper... was the name of one of the narnia books.

So anyway this is the book i wanna read, as soon as Chasbro is done with it;
Credit: Jaybro
Credit: Jaybro

Thought the covers might interest some.

And a Tibetan Buddhist for Riley;
Credit: Jaybro

with Georgisa O'keefe poster in background for general grooviness.
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