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tonesfrommars
Trad climber
California
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May 26, 2011 - 10:47pm PT
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yeah Werner! haha I got a bunch of windows @ my house too, they're great.
If a person is at all inclined to go under the hood, the linux world (I'm an ubuntu guy) is pretty bad-ass IMHO. If one wants to build a computer, the amount you can save not having to dish out for an OS and a bunch of other software is considerable.
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fongschway
Social climber
Plainfield, VT
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May 27, 2011 - 05:53pm PT
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To The User Formerly...STZZO,
Point taken. Everything is vulnerable to exploitable bugs (see: classic Berkeley Sendmail stack overdrive bug of lore). Safari failed. However, I did notice that Chrome ran clean for the 3rd year in a row, and even "lowly" Firefox did not get tagged this year.
I will say that at this point in Apple's life (so to speak) that they are not vulnerable to script kiddies.
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
13,000 feet
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May 27, 2011 - 08:50pm PT
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consider graphics processing, speed and accuracy with adobe compatibility and fonts... if you do not know the difference between fonts built in Mac or PC please, please don't tell me they are the same, when it goes to plate for printing is when some first figure out, and pay for, the difference.
or.. you can look at the back of most software,
installation instructions:
PC 17 steps 30 minutes...
Mac: "click on the icon," 7 seconds if you are slow.
or...
think about the design intent:
PC : Search
Mac: Find
that says it all to me.
even two boxes that have the same "specs and capacities" are not the same,
when with one the sttuff is usable, and intuitive, and with the other one, it takes much research, debugging, and time to get it to do what is needed.
or, you can think about Bill Gates' famous quote as he was so proud of what his army had "created" straight our of the man's mouth came the proud declaration"It's more Mac like." He was proud that his product had become more like a Mac, and he also admitted he had not caught up yet.
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 27, 2011 - 09:03pm PT
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Chrome ran clean for the 3rd year in a row
Only if you don't count the Flash exploits (while it's Adobe's code base, Flash is directly integrated into Chrome.)
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Jul 24, 2011 - 08:46pm PT
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For me, it depends on what I am using it for.
In my dealings with Apple service, they have been aces to me time and time again, even if I need a half hour to learn some simple issue that most people would grasp at once.
As far as Mac goes, I have the old school Macbook and I love it for what I use it for - some video and picture editing, but mostly for DJing when I'm too lazy to spin CDs. For those applications, I really like the software; it's intuitive and does most of the work for me and the UI is user friendly for someone like me, who doesn't know a lot about software.
For gaming, I have and will continue, to stick to a PC based machine. My current build is 5 years old, but still works pretty well. Until Mac lets me buy what components I want and build from the ground up, I would never use them for a desktop.
I have the iPhone 4, had the 3G before that. Very happy with both of them.
My main issue with Apple is the exclusivity BS, and their refusal to allow Flash on the iPhone. That's why I haven't bought the iPad and won't unless I get a great deal on a used one.
Both computers turn on, compute, and let you get on the Internet, and for 99% of computer users that's pretty much all they want a computer for.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jul 24, 2011 - 08:52pm PT
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I hold Apple stock and have profited fabulously from Apple over the past few years, but in no way do I think Apple makes high-quality stuff. They make merely okay stuff and have marketed it well enough with only halfhearted competition in the marketplace.
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Anastasia
climber
hanging from an ice pick and missing my mama.
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Jul 24, 2011 - 09:05pm PT
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I Love my MacBook Pro that I was fortunate to get last year. It's a winner. Bill grumbled all through out the purchasing process about the waste of money. He then went out and bought himself a new PC, placed it next to my mac to show me in details how it was way better.
Well... His computer now has a virus which is wrecking havoc to his system and mine is predictably doing fine.
I win.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jul 24, 2011 - 09:51pm PT
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I used to be anti apple but their stuff is just so useful, polished, and efficient compared to everything else. When it was a couple grand more for apple it wasn't worth it to me, but now that it's only a couple hundred or less difference it's SO worth it to me.
My apple stuff has ran for years, never had problems, still have my first iPod living in a boombox. I broke my iPhone out of warranty, but maybe I shoulda gone to a mac store! But $11 for a new screen off ebay and an easy install.. no problem.
I used to build my PCs, but my MacBook Pro runs HD video better than my desktop PC.
They both have their cons/pros. It's not worth my time to mess with PCs anymore when the macs just work out of the box. My PCs seem to slow down after a few years of updates etc. and require a fresh install on the OS. The macs just run fine.
It's so easy to jailbreak an iphone (jailbreakme.com), I put flash on it, but never run it, it just sucks batteries and is getting less and less needed.
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jul 24, 2011 - 11:30pm PT
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@khanom
Thing is, it's a very similar issue to the one that killed my iBook some time back -- video chip. There was actually a class action lawsuit that I didn't pay attention to... thus I missed the deadline for replacement. My machine died about two weeks after the cut-off date. WTF man?
khanom,
Did you take it into a Apple Store? They've fixed things for me for free way out of warranty. Worth a try, esp. since there was a recall. Make an appointment, tell them your tale and ask if there's anything they can do for you. You might be pleasantly surprised (I know I was when they replaced my 3 year old iPhone when the Home button crapped out.)
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