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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 16, 2011 - 05:58pm PT
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Hey all, I had to bail off this crazy climb and left a good amount of gear at the second bolt...
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/california/tahoe_vicinity/donner_pass/105736381
built and anchor on the bolt and then traversed to the crack right of Desire and built a large anchor with multiple pieces... a couple 4's, a three, and a two...
Please, please, if you could grab my stuff and send it to me that would be great...
Thanks in advance for giving my stuff back...
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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May 16, 2011 - 06:03pm PT
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Please refer to "Booty" thread on ST!
Peace
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:05pm PT
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It's not "booty"...
I left it, now can't someone get it back for me...
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The Dude
climber
Truckee, CA
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May 16, 2011 - 06:06pm PT
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Really?? Is this a troll thread or is there really a good story along with this. The second bolt is like 15 feet up..
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:07pm PT
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Only with my tears...
dude: fifteen feet to one man may be a thousand to another...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
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Aww come on guys!!!! Where is the love...
why is that writing in blue apogee?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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May 16, 2011 - 06:10pm PT
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May 16, 2011 - 02:52pm PT
I believe this, via Will Gadd, is from here originally...
When I first started climbing back in the early eightys I was taught the booty game. It was supposed to be fun and honorable. the rules went something like this.
#1 Any gear that you lose due to incompetence, getting spanked, fear, lack of skill , retrete, etc. becomes booty the moment that you give up attempts to recover said gear. The exception would be if you let it be known that were returning the next day at first light to resume recovery attempt. Once you give up on recovery attempts it is in fact BOOTY;)
#2 Gear left in the parking lot is lost and found, NOT booty.
3# Any gear left in the process of a rescue is NOT booty and shall be returned to the rightfull owners or next of kin.
#4 Finders of booty may offer to return booty to the spanked party but you will lose face if you accept the offer.
#5 it is extremly poor form to ask for lost booty to be returned to you. If the finders offer and you refuse the offer and they offer again then you may acept the return of the booty but you will still lose face and owe them a debt of honor. This debt may be eased but not completly erased by a gift of beer. (You and they will know that you are their bitch) It is best to suck it up and just say, hey, thanks for offering but you guys earned it.
The booty game is supposed to be fun and a way for strong poor climbers to build their rack at the expense of rich weak climbers. Italic Text As soon as someone gets hurt it is not fun anymore so everyone should pitch in, help out and try to get everyones gear back at the end of the day.
The best form is to solo up to snag the booty gear or lead up but rapping in is acceptable provideing that all recovery attemts by the loseing party have been exausted.
I am sure that its different by region but that is how we felt about booty in the north east.
read rule #1 and #5
Peace
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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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May 16, 2011 - 06:11pm PT
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It's a link, Seth.
I'd help ya, but I'm outa range.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 16, 2011 - 06:12pm PT
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The love's prolly already on someone's rack!
How is it not booty if you left it?
This is a troll, right?
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:12pm PT
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as soon as someone gets hurt it is not fun anymore so everyone should pitch in, help out and try to get everyones gear back at the end of the day.
I scraped my elbow getting down, does that change things?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 16, 2011 - 06:17pm PT
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T2.
Not bad...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:20pm PT
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The love's prolly already on someone's rack!
How is it not booty if you left it?
Oh, the horror!!! I can't even stand to think of someone else touching my cams... ;)
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland -> SLT
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May 16, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
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I don't understand.... You got to the second bolt and then bailed via your own, very expensive anchor? The bolts on Desire are bomber, why not just use a leaver biner or a small loop of cord or something????
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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May 16, 2011 - 06:45pm PT
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Right!!!?
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213
climber
Where the Froude number often >> 1
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May 16, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
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This doesn't make sense...not only could you have just bailed off one of the bomber bolts, but if you take two steps right you are in a 5.5 crack (a nice way to run solo laps up Desire and down this). Two long steps left and you are in the 5.6 huffer chimney. Something fishy...
C'mon seth we want the whole story!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 06:58pm PT
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but if you take two steps right you are in a 5.5 crack
That's where I built my retreat anchor... god, I don't like to think about it... the longest rap of my life...
Ah, Seth, you shoulda told me! You said you only left a little gear. If it's still there the weekend after this, I'll help you get it.
Damn it Jebus, where were you when I needed you? You should've been there...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 07:08pm PT
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that doesn't mean you should basically steal his gear.
word, thieves!!!!
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Anastasia
climber
hanging from an ice pick and missing my mama.
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May 16, 2011 - 07:18pm PT
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Hey folks, I've pulled plenty gear off of climbs and returned it. Might be booty but heck... If you can make someone's day, why not?
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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May 16, 2011 - 07:21pm PT
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Because I need it more....
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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May 16, 2011 - 07:22pm PT
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thanks, the gear donation is greatly appreciated!
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okie
Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
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May 16, 2011 - 07:32pm PT
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This HAS to be a troll. 2 #4, 1 #3, 1 #2... to bail???
Think of the booty hunters going after this stuff...LOL!
Help! Help!
Man, I sure hope this is a troll.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 07:32pm PT
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Uhh, just kidding guys, no gear up there, don't bother going to check, okay?!? really, don't even bother...
trolling with my full name? now that's just crazy
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 07:35pm PT
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thanks, the gear donation is greatly appreciated!
atcha: don't even act like you could send that rig, it's like a 5.9-
I mean don't bother, there is nothing up there, really...
Your parents must be rad Jebus I also use my real name.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland -> SLT
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May 16, 2011 - 07:41pm PT
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If this happened yesterday, there is a decent chance it's still there... it's just under 1-2' of snow now.
First sunny day after this storm be the first one there and it might still be there.
If someone who hasn't read this came/comes across this gear and booties it, that's not theivery. Even if someone reads this here, finds it and decides to keep it, that's still not thievery, that's bootiery.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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May 16, 2011 - 07:57pm PT
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The only problem with the OP is lack of offering a reward, beer typically.
If someone reads it here and takes the gear, well it's perhaps technically abondonded. But still a dick move to pocket someone's gear when you know who owns it and they want it back.
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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May 16, 2011 - 08:00pm PT
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Sounds like I could buy gas to drive out there and still break even in gear...hmm.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 08:00pm PT
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bergbryce: you are one cold-hearted mother...
The only problem with the OP is lack of offering a reward, beer typically.
I don't condone the consumption of alcohol. Is that all you climbers think about?
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 08:01pm PT
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dont do it chichen, I know where you climb...
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland -> SLT
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May 16, 2011 - 08:08pm PT
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What a strange thread. I tell the OP that his gear is probably still there and what to do to retrieve it and I get called names by the OP.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 08:12pm PT
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Even if someone reads this here, finds it and decides to keep it, that's still not thievery, that's bootiery.
Cold-hearted.
And stop calling me an OP, I am a person damn it!!! With feelings and everything...
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Maysho
climber
Soda Springs, CA
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May 16, 2011 - 08:19pm PT
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Yo Seth,
Is this for real? I live up here at Soda Springs, yes it has snowed about 14 inches in the last 24 hours, and snowing right this minute, and 6 more inches forecast for tonight. (When will this winter end!!!!)
I am a pretty busy guy, and i am probably leaving town when the weather turns good enough on Thursday to get out there.
If there is a break on Wednesday, maybe I can get out there, but no guarantee. I am always up for returning booty when the owner is identified.
Why don't you just come up here on Thursday afternoon and get your own gear back? Lots of people walk around and set up top-ropes on that wall, if you are reluctant to get back on the horse. As someone said, doubtful that anyone is climbing up here this week, your gear should be safe.
Peter
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 08:31pm PT
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Maysho- I just PMed you...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 08:43pm PT
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Snivel, snivel, whine ...
rokjox, are you hiding in my closet? Can you hear me crying?
Damn, I miss my cams...
I feel like I am stuck in the middle of the Rules of Booty thread... all you people bitching back and forth with the same old reasons for keeping or returning gear. It's as annoying as a freaking poli-tard thread...
I'm right, give it back!!!
NO, I'M RIGHT, KEEP IT!!!!!
NO YOUR NOT, I'M RIGHT, GIVE IT BACK!!!
GIMMEE BEEEEEER!!!!!!
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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May 16, 2011 - 08:51pm PT
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Man, if this is a troll it's got me hooked better than most.
If not, good luck.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 16, 2011 - 09:03pm PT
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This thing could go T3.
I think it did.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 09:18pm PT
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Blue, if it goes T4 will somebody send me my sh#t back? Just wondering...
Rokjox: You are underage, eh, Seth? That just sounded downright creepy...
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james Colborn
Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
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May 16, 2011 - 09:18pm PT
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Soooooo, I don't have the time to read the thread. Is there gear there or not? Might be SOL for a couple of days now.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 09:20pm PT
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DUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soooooo, I don't have the time to read the thread. Is there gear there or not?
You gotta read the thread... quit cheating...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2011 - 09:38pm PT
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Best way for you to get that stuff is to go after it yourself, before I get there.
I see.
Lines have been drawn then.
Challenges made.
It's a long climb to that second bolt, even without that snow.
May the best man win.
Leaving now...
Supertopo, keep me in your thoughts and prayers.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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May 16, 2011 - 11:21pm PT
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You ought to be fairly safe from RJ poaching your gear - he affects to despise California and Californians. Sort of a love/hate thing, perhaps. So he's not likely to visit.
And now may not be the best time to mention the wolves that were recently reintroduced into the Donner area. Cute guys, but RJ has some issues with them. Red Riding Hood stuff.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 16, 2011 - 11:27pm PT
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Blue, if it goes T4 will somebody send me my sh#t back? Just wondering...
I may give you some of my gear is she goes T4, we may be close. Just for a classic effort!
This is better than my Okwanza Washington encounter...
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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May 16, 2011 - 11:33pm PT
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I for one applaud your foresight in taking big cams on a sport slab. I guess there was no cell reception, or you wouldn't have had to self-rescue like that. Glad you're okay.
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james Colborn
Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
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May 17, 2011 - 12:31am PT
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Now that I realize what a turd of a climb you are talking about, it all becomes clear.
Is the 5.9- rating proportionally easier than 5.9 as 5.9+ is harder?
How bout a TR about your epic ascent! PTFU
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 02:16am PT
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Okay, I'm home! Whew it's nasty up there!
Nice to be back in R-E-N-0. Nobody told me my 5.10 Guides weren't water proof.
How bout a TR about your epic ascent! PTFU
Okay, okay James, calm down. No need to cuss in acronyms. But first...
he affects to despise California and Californians.
I live in Nevada and come from New York.
Damn man, don't tell that kid I live in Idaho... I got him off the couch and out the door, worried about his toys!--rokjox
Well played sir, well played.
I for one applaud your foresight in taking big cams on a sport slab. I guess there was no cell reception, or you wouldn't have had to self-rescue like that. Glad you're okay. --murcy
Thanks man, I've read Long's Climbing Anchors a million times, whew! All that knowledge sure came in handy. And as for the large cams, Jebus has taught me well, "The more gear the better" he always says... Thanks Jebus.
I was just so mad. So mad, driving way too fast towards Donner to save my lost gear from the madman I've come to know as Rokjox. Dude was really scheming to gank my sh#t. I couldn't believe it. I had never been so scared by anything on the internet in my life. Except that video where you solving the maze and then the sacry face pops out, you know.
http://www.prank-ideas-central.com/maze-game.html
Well anyway, the events of Saturday and getting benighted on that climb kept running through my head. I felt good at the start. Getting off the ground was a bit tough, but isn't it always.
First bolt, check.
Second bolt, check.
As I started moving up to the third bolt I heard my belayer gasp with fear. Looking down I realized that I had potential for some big air here. I freaked alright! I am not scared to admit it. I managed to down climb to the second bolt and after calming down backed up my quickdraw with second biner and sling before yelling "Take!!!"
Knowing that I couldn't trust that bolt to hold me forever, I made the decision to traverse right to the so-called 5.5 crack. Here the size of the crack forced me to use larger gear. Thinking back to all the people who have laughed behind my back -at the gym, on bolted routes- because I always bring ALL my gear, I had to smile, but just for a second... I had an anchor to build.
She was a beauty... Four big pieces, equalized for downward pull... I would have belayed my grandma on that anchor.
I decided to rappel at this point realizing that my belayer was at in no state to lower me.
Clipping straight into the four piece anchor with my PAS, I leaned back, weighted it and sighed. It worked. I was almost home.
As I set up for the rappel, I realized I would have to leave my gear and a tear fell into space.
"Perhaps someone with the ability to fire this climb will be kind enough to return my gear" I thought, knowing at the same time that it would never happen. Well, not unless beer was involved.
As I lowered myself to the ground I could almost hear my gear calling out to me... I hiked out and drove away in shame.
No one was crazy enough to come with me tonight so I was forced to hike to the top of the cliff and rappel in. I built a five point anchor, equalized using a static rope, since there were no bolts that I could find. Lowering in I almost passed the anchor due to worsening conditions, but luckily spotted it.
As I removed my gear I felt a great joy. At first I thought it was because I had come up here and solved a problem on my own, but I soon came to realize it was due to the fact that rokjox - you little self rightous toady- would never touch my glorious cams.
Thanks to here on Supertopo everyone for the words of encouragement, I really appreciate it.
By the way, the snow got really bad while I was breaking down my anchor and I couldn't make the 4th class back to my rappel anchor. If anyone is up there in the next few days could you grab it and send it to me. There are four cams and a nut. Plus a static rope, 60m, and some locking biners.
It's not booty.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland -> SLT
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May 17, 2011 - 02:48am PT
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I don't know who is writing this script but it's a good one.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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May 17, 2011 - 03:25am PT
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I knew you were a teacher Seth, but I didn't realize you taught creative writing.
Nice work.
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Rick Sylvester
Trad climber
Squaw Valley, California
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May 17, 2011 - 05:03am PT
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I once experienced a certain situation I'd like to term unusual. And as a result I've never been sure if the left behind gear constituted fair booty or not. Maybe someone can opine. Here's what happened.
I was climbing Snake Dike with my fairly young son Terray. The only initial complication was that despite a decently early start, surprisingly there was one party that had beat us to the route -- a team of two women who, as I learned, had camped out above Nevada Falls. Well.to back up for a moment, can any early start really be called ''decent"? And arising had been made even harder as a result of trouble falling asleep due to a certain Camp Four site's late partying -- where's a ranger the one time you want one? On this subject see Tom Stienstra's May 15, 2011, "S.F. Chronicle" sport section column listing Camp Four as the 4th worst campground in California. But I have so many great memories....
Now the leader seemed pretty decent but the second wasn't moving so well. Turned out it was her first ever climb! Now if Snake Dike were the only climb in the world I could see some justification for her friend taking her up on it. But to select this popular route for a weekend, or even a midweek day, with the odds greatly stacked in favor of creating a traffic ja seemed somehow more than a bit weird not to mention unfair.
I was hoping for some space between our two parties but for some reason the second wasn't leaving the first pitch belay long after her partner was on belay above and had taken in all the slack. She was still there when I arrived. It turned out that she was stuck, locked onto the bolt anchor, directly to and by her harness' locking biner. She couldn't unscrew it. No problem, I thought. But I was wrong. It was really tight...and my hand strength has never been what I wished it were, probably not average for a climber and maybe not even for an average flatland citizen -- at least that's what I've long thought. After working on the obviously overtightened gate for a while It really looked like I was not going to be able to help her. I was thinking that I'd have to get her out of her harness, safeguarding her somehow, then proceed from there. But then a final strategy worked, banging the lock on the gate against the rock until it loosened.
So I solved her team's dilemma and she took off. Terray came up then we waited a bit to get some space between them and us so we wouldn't have to keep stopping, losing all momentum.. It was while working on freeing the biner that I found out about it being her maiden route. Still can't get over that.
Other parties were now lining up at the base. Terray and I proceeded but soon got jammed up behind the women again. Then I embarked upon a strategy which I knew was a bit"(sic) of a safety no-no. Maybe I'd had too many bad experiences on crowded routes in the Alps. Everything seemed crowded there, obscure and unpopular as well as classic routes, way before this ever started happening in the States. In an attempt to get ahead of the femme fatales I leapfrogged ahead of the slower second and began belaying at what used to be the mid-belay protection bolt, except now I think there were two; another had been added since I'd last done the route quite a while back.
Now there was always an odd thing about Snake Dike. Despite its relatively benign rating it had amazingly long run outs, half he rope in fact (another oddity was that when it was put up with 150' being the standard rope length the leader could barely reach the next belay. I believe the second had to untie and the team had to simul-climb a few feet). A lot of climbers thought the rating was a sandbag in view of the run outs, that someone who could at best lead or climb at that rating might very well not have the head for such run outs. There was even talk of intentionally over rating it in the guidebook in view of that as a safety precaution.
Anyway, a game of leapfrog ensued. If it bothered the women no one said anything. Give them credit for that. Near the top of my sin list is impatience -- I'm working on it, really! -- and I guess I was trying to salvage what I could of a day that had turned into being less than a stellar experience, as not infrequently happens, often for that very reason of a slower party ahead. Of course here I'd plead that there were a couple of somewhat weird extenuating circumstances. Also in my defense: there was no chance on those sections of knocking dow anything loose. I'm thinking of the infamous episode involving Tom Kimbrough and a female partner in the upper DNB chimneys who pleaded with an impatient overtaking party not to pass them. When the twosome insisted Tom begged them to be extra careful in view of lots of loose debris in the chimney system. Turned out they weren't. Tom's partner was badly hit, suffering traumatic brain damage and I think the loss of one or more fingers. A lawsuit followed, almost unprecedented then for that type of situation, and I think the party who'd passed was found guilty, negligent -- also unprecedented.
But I digress. My thought was that I could pass the girls but it wasn't working. While I brought up Terray, the second, now moving better --damn -- on those easy knobs, would get back ahead of me. I felt a little stupid. I think we did finally get ahead of them on the last of the dike pitches, not long before where most parties unrope and scramble, with the occasional fifth class move, the final thousand feet or so to the top.
But for awhile something had been nudging at my consciousness. I didn't fully focus on it, probably due to the "race". I seemed to be running short on quickdraws, essentially the only gear necessary for the route. The higher we climbed the thinner the supply of quickdraws seemed to be getting. I continued on, barely able to equip the bolts. But when we unroped it was obvious that something was wrong. -- the supply was depleted. I asked Terray about the quickdraws. He readily admitted he hadn't been cleaned them. I was incredulous. What was this act of infamy? How could he do, or more accurately not do, this? "What! What do you mean? Why Not?"Now the negatives of the day were really compounding. It turned out he'd suffered some kind of lapse. Some time back I'd pointed out to him the routes at Cave Rock on Tahoe's east side -- yeah, that used to be a climbing area. On all the harder routes -- actually there was nothing easy at that drastically overhanging state of the hard art of modern sport climbing area, certainly very little I could get up -- the quickdraws were fixed as is the custom. So based on that he'd somehow spaced out about cleaning our gear.
My only hope was that the whatever party below had collected the bonanza would be sympathetic and return it. But this is where I experienced confusion. I knew the reason the captain is the last to leave a sinking ship is that it's the law of the sea that whoever finds an abandoned vessel is entitled to it. But if the ship didn't in fact sink the captain was in deep doo doo. Why should abandoned gear be regarded differently? It's booty, plain and simple.
We must have waited a couple of hours on the summit, cooling our heels as they say. Sure, not exactly the worst place to hang out. But this added delay was the final dastardly rhythm killer to the day. And not only that... We had two family members waiting below on the shoulder. Ter's mother and sister were supposed to rendezvous with us on top -- all the time up there I wondered about their no show -- but unknown to me the steel cables had been taken down since I'd descended them just a couple of weeks before following a Direct Northwest face ascent. So, what would have been a strenuous enough day without added complications became a lot longer, a semi-beat out, with the descent hike finishing in early darkness.
The guys were nice. When I explained what happened they handed over, somewhat reluctantly I couldn't help but noticing, the quickdraws, their loot.. But I've always pondered this. Was I wrong to have even asked?
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 11:04am PT
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Well put Jebus...
I think the lesson here is that left gear is booty, unless it's not, which in this case was definitely not the case.
well, that was fast, anyway...
That's what she said...
The guys were nice. When I explained what happened they handed over, somewhat reluctantly I couldn't help but noticing, the quickdraws, their loot.. But I've always pondered this. Was I wrong to have even asked?
Sounds like you guys were just being dumb, that was their loot for sure... me on the other hand, I was on the edge of life and death, therefore, not booty.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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May 17, 2011 - 11:42am PT
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You left half a rack 15-20 feet up and call it the scariest rap of your life?
What there a fish involved? It sure smells funny...
T4 fer sure.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 11:50am PT
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You left half a rack 15-20 feet up and call it the scariest rap of your life?
You weren't there k-man, you didn't see it through my eyes... staring up a those 4 pieces, just waiting for them to pop...
T4 fer sure.
I hope so, Blue said he'd send me some free gear :)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 17, 2011 - 11:55am PT
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Depends inthe scrape.
If you catch the bootiers will you kick their ass in a parking lot, Kung Fu stye?
Personally, I return all booty if i know who it beings to. Otherwise it's steailing.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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May 17, 2011 - 12:04pm PT
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We had a big party up at the Leap once... My friend dropped a #3 off Bear's Reach, yelled ROCK. It landed a few feet away from some folks who were waiting at the base.
They refused to return the cam. There were about 10 of us in the camp that evening, talking to the couple, and they just stood their ground.
There's low-lifes in every crowd.
Seth. Be happy the cams held. Be happy you got a cheap lesson. If the cams return, Stephen Hawkins is a fraud. If not, you'll learn to bail with less gear next time.
[I still say T4.]
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 12:07pm PT
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Some people just don't get it, Seth. The mountain is in the mind.
Jebus this is soooo true...
I mean, I get gripped sometimes reading the latest edition of Urban Climber... sh#t be scary!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 12:14pm PT
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There's low-lifes in every crowd.
I know, but we can't blame rokjox for the way he was raised. Just glad I got up there before he ganked my sh#t. I just hope he leaves my rappel anchor alone.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 12:22pm PT
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I know Silver, I know. But there comes a time in every mans life when he has to set out on his own.
Last weekend was my time.
Who would have thought I would have such an epic on a sport climb named Desire?
As soon as I get my rappel anchor back form last nights excursion I think I'll be able to sit down and sort the happenings of the last week out.
Until then, I will suffer with the memories and sleepless nights...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 02:17pm PT
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Seth. Be happy the cams held. Be happy you got a cheap lesson. If the cams return, Stephen Hawkins is a fraud. If not, you'll learn to bail with less gear next time.
I know right, too bad it cost me more gear to retrieve the gear I lost in the first place.
I hope someone can return it to me...
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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May 17, 2011 - 02:26pm PT
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WTF?? This has got to be a hoax.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 02:29pm PT
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I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but I'm afraid we'll have to bust out the bolt kit to solve this dilemma.
I'm sure a nice 4 bolt anchor will do the trick. I would trust 4 bolts.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 02:39pm PT
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WTF?? This has got to be a hoax.
I wish Ariza, I wish...
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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May 17, 2011 - 02:49pm PT
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Used to be that abandoned gear was kept on the hush until you could get back and retrieve it with all the sharks out there hungry for a freebie. That was part of the fun. Now people go on the web and beg other climbers to retrieve it and then return it back. Hmmm, climbers have come along way......I guess
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 02:53pm PT
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Used to be that abandoned gear was kept on the hush until you could get back and retrieve it with all the sharks out there hungry for a freebie. That was part of the fun. Now people go on the web and beg other climbers to retrieve it and then return it back. Hmmm, climbers have come along way......I guess
God KP, what are you stuck in the 80's? That is so old skool...
I just wanted my stuff back... is that too much to ask?
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Dolomite
climber
Anchorage
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May 17, 2011 - 02:58pm PT
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Most entertaining, folks. Proving that irony is not always easily conveyed electronically. Thanks to Ron Gomez for that Will Gadd gem early on: I can abide by those rules!
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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May 17, 2011 - 03:06pm PT
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If getting off a sport route without leaving so much as a sling (if that) is being stuck in the '80's, then you're absolutely correct. I suspect however, that the a vast majority of climbers out there today still posses the ingenuity to bail themselves out of a predicament like this one. With gear in hand.
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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May 17, 2011 - 03:19pm PT
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My only point is that there is no reason to leave your gear on a route if you want it back. At least make some effort to get it the next day...or the next. I think you both like to hear yourselves spray on the web thats all.
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Dolomite
climber
Anchorage
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May 17, 2011 - 03:24pm PT
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Kp, you need some help getting that hook out of your lip?
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 17, 2011 - 03:42pm PT
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Knowing that I couldn't trust that bolt to hold me forever
LMFAO!
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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May 17, 2011 - 03:47pm PT
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 03:50pm PT
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Seth is also a victim, a victim of threatened gear thievery, and it won't stop until the community lends a hand and helps him get his gear back. Give Seth back his gear, Supertopo!
Thanks for your support Jebus...
Fattrad: you're a dog man, a dog!!!! you better hope my rappel anchor is still there...
Fifteen feet?
Thats not even a leg breaker if the landing is good. Kid, you should have downclimbed it. Two three moves, a short hop and you'd been down.
I'm not you rokjox, I don't have a death wish fueled by alcohol!!!!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 03:53pm PT
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I went back and slept the next 14 hours or so, waking miserably at about 3 AM, wide awake and still in my filthy, stinking clothes.
Well, there is some similarity in our stories... I can still see those cams flexing under my weight... didn't quite get 14 hours but it's all the same
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 17, 2011 - 04:09pm PT
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I can still see those cams flexing under my weight...
F-in funny!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 04:16pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^
Glad someone thinks it's funny! I sure didn't!!
Kev you sicko!!!, I was really scared
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 04:29pm PT
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We told you the rules, and now you know,
Oh look, the gear nazis are here...
Quit quoting that thread, there is no research to back it up, you hack!!!!
edit:
This "GIVE ME MY GEAR YOU THIEF!" would earn you a punch in the mouth at the end of the word "thief". And you damn better believe you'd get it, I AIN'T from Californee.
Can I get rokjox banned for physically threatening me?
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 04:34pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Quite full of ourselves, aren't we?
But I am still hoping someone will grab my rappel anchor, please?
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 04:36pm PT
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You call me serious names and accuse me of criminal actions (FELONIES given the cost of the shit) and you better have a HARD skin, because I am going to fillet you and eat you for dinner.
Yikes!!!!
edit: Bluey, where we at?
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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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May 17, 2011 - 04:39pm PT
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Uh, yeah. You might get spewed to death.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 04:45pm PT
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God, Supertopo used top be such a safe loving place, now look at it.
Can't even get my gear back and rokjox has lost it! Temper, temper now little fishy, I mean toady.
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neversummer
Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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May 17, 2011 - 04:48pm PT
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seth and jebus...
..thanks you made my day with this thread.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 04:53pm PT
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thanks you made my day with this thread.
You could make my day and get my gear for me, please?!?
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 04:58pm PT
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I didn't accuse you of stealing, I accused you of WANTING to steal... silly toad.
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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May 17, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
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"In Idaho, we got a statute with a section called "fighting words". We recognise that some shitheads can goad a priest into violence, and that certain things should not be said in a confrontation without reprisal."
Easy there BES1'ST, Way to mangle another legal concept. Stick to things you know...
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 17, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
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Can't even get my gear back and rokjox has lost it!
RJ lost it years ago Seth if he ever had it...
That said, even the old curmudgeon understands booty.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 05:03pm PT
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Kev, you obviously don't understand what I've been through...
I was already told that if I was hurt, everyone would come together to help me get my stuff.
I scraped my elbow damn it!!!!!!!
IT'S NOT BOOTY!!!!!
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 17, 2011 - 05:06pm PT
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Seth,
Clearly between the flexing cams, single bolt, and RJ you will need
years of therapy to recover. So why not do this ? Let me show your rack some lovin while you work out your PTSD. Just PM me and we can arrange a time for pickup!
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 17, 2011 - 05:09pm PT
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Fatty,
I was offering to take care of the rest of Seth's gear while
he recovers from this trauma.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 05:09pm PT
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OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fattrad, you had better not have them, those are my babies and I have only used them about three times...
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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May 17, 2011 - 05:12pm PT
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Jebus and Seth, this is first rate stuff!!! LOL! Jebus, you've gotta be kidding! Are you really comparing Seth's "dilemma" to 911 calls and serious injury? Come on man! Seth is a victim of his own incompetence.Then he pulls the Supertopo used to be all warm and fuzzy card. That's some A material for sure LOL!!
This could have been a basic lesson in rockcraft but instead you turn it into a cry for help or some lame discussion on political correctness.
News for both of you, Seth is no victim he's just being foolish. Maybe next time he will have learned how to clean up after himself. BTW Jeebus, I do miss the pool of circling sharks buddy and Iv'e got news for you, there's a whole generation of new one's.....hopefully reading this and laughing there asses off.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 05:14pm PT
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Unfortunately you left style out of your bail here.
Silver, actually I was looking pretty dapper that day, so style had nothing to do with it...
This could have been a basic lesson in rockcraft but instead you turn it into a cry for help or some lame discussion on political correctness.
KP , there are plenty of other threads for this...
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 17, 2011 - 05:32pm PT
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I scraped my elbow damn it!!!!!!!
Seth,
I recently had my elbow repaired (on pi day - 3/14) and I'm about to start climbing (doc say go for it after 6/7). Anyhow if you need a referral for your elbow I've got a good surgeon.
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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May 17, 2011 - 05:45pm PT
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T2. Well played.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 05:55pm PT
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Seth is no real challenge.
Funny, you stuck around long enough and got more upset than most...
Where's the love roks?
Can't a man want his gear back?
the amount of gear in question too puny.
that's what she said
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 17, 2011 - 06:00pm PT
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Timid - you need a green beer in the other hand!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 06:03pm PT
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Seth, I was trying to get down off the snow sheds but I slipped on all the ice and got a second cast now.
Dude, sorry to hear that. I totally would have built you a retreat anchor.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
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Kev, thanks man. I might take you up on that... it really stings.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 06:13pm PT
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Seth you said Dapper. You have style man I get it but it would have been more stylish if you could have posted on rap from your cams you were leaving a bunch of cams behind and you're now 4 feet from the ground on a 15 foot rappel.
I wish, I can't get reception that deep in the bush...
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 17, 2011 - 06:19pm PT
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Seth,
Perhaps you should join me in a few months on my first FA of the year -
I'm thinking about calling it "Dr Gutow, Thanks for the Elbow"
kev
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 06:22pm PT
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Cool kev, hopefully I am healed up by then.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 17, 2011 - 06:27pm PT
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Well I'm sure he could fix up your scratches with a screw and about 2.5 hours of surgery.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland -> SLT
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May 17, 2011 - 06:29pm PT
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yawn
c'mon guys.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 06:31pm PT
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yawn
c'mon guys.
I dont remember asking you in berg...
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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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May 17, 2011 - 10:11pm PT
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I dunno why anyone would fret about that looney EVER.
Does he even own pants anymore?
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 11:10pm PT
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There are some dumb motherf*#kers on this board, lol.
F*#king DUH Scientists.
DMT
I know, tell me about it, gosh...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 17, 2011 - 11:12pm PT
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kev's reconstructed 'albow' is RAD!! Pretty good looking work. Only problem is that he drinks a lot of wine now, so that is kinda troubling....
I have heard stories of gay-juicing patients when they're under. I'm worried for him...I think he got 'juiced'.
Hang tight, kev...I'm here for you.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2011 - 11:59pm PT
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Ha, yeah right!!!
What's that gear from the eighties? I'm cutting edge man, microcrimpin' and such...
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Ian Gill
Big Wall climber
Redding, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 12:23am PT
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I left it, now can't someone get it back for me...
Please, someone - tell me this thread isn't real - it CAN'T be!!!
And if it IS real - no offer of reward, no offer to pay for gas....
Just "I left it, now someone get it back for me????
I'm gonna close my eyes and this thread is gonna go away.
DAMN, IT'S STILL HERE!! It CAN'T be legit......either that, or someone slipped some old window pane into young Seth's Lucky Charms!!!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 12:53am PT
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Ian, that's a T6 rig you got there, nice!!!!
T4 minimum...T5+, prolly.
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Ian Gill
Big Wall climber
Redding, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 12:56am PT
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I don't hold back!!! It's all or nothing!!!!!!!!
Bwaaahaaaahaaaahaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2011 - 12:58am PT
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Nice hat Ian!!!!
Ahhh!!!! What up bluey?!?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 01:02am PT
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Ahhh!!!! What up bluey?!?
Lover's Leap and Phantom Spires for Memorial!!! Wanna go? I'm still trying to rally my troops.
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Ian Gill
Big Wall climber
Redding, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 01:04am PT
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Ain't my hat, young'un.....and that ain't me!!!
But it's GOTTA be yer trolling rig, cuz from all your posts, and the way this inane thread won't quit....you GOTTA be serious about your sport!!
Or is it more like.......
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2011 - 01:07am PT
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Possibly, I have friends in town but should have Sunday and Monday free. Was hoping to be in Bishop but these friends trump travel. Rally those troops!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 01:14am PT
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If you can do Bishop, do it, of course, just be safe.
I will continue to rally. it only takes one!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2011 - 01:17am PT
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But it's GOTTA be yer trolling rig, cuz from all your posts, and the way this inane thread won't quit....you GOTTA be serious about your sport!!
Maybe a little bit of both man, maybe a little bit of both. Climbing and fishing...
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2011 - 01:19am PT
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just be safe.
Ahh Blue, you read the thread, I spare no expense at being safe. ;)
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Ian Gill
Big Wall climber
Redding, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 01:22am PT
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I PITY the fool who pirates my booty!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Barcus
Social climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
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May 18, 2011 - 01:34am PT
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Seth,
You know its all obout the Cali love man.
If some dawg snakes that gear, we'll just throw like, a rainbow party!
and get you some new gear even better than your old sh#t
Buck up bra its all about the Cali Love!
Hey man you like WOLVES? (Jockitch just loves em)
Its all good man,
Marcus
Evil too!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 02:28am PT
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yep....
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Barcus
Social climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
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May 18, 2011 - 06:07pm PT
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Seth, did you get your gear back yet?
Marcus
Evil too!
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adikted
Trad climber
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May 18, 2011 - 07:41pm PT
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Soo...if this isint a Troll....the OP bailed on lots o gear...went to get it after all the heckeling...then left a ton of other gear when retrieving the first bail anchor....now wants people to get the second set of gear that was left...DUDE..reno is like an Hour away.....an early morning tomorrow could get u all that gear back...the weather is susposed to be nice...i would hurry if i were u.....sounds like u need to take a course in this....or find a good mentor...good luck with your gear recovery.
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Ian Gill
Big Wall climber
Redding, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 08:08pm PT
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Am I missing something? This gear is like what, about 15 feet off the ground??
Hey, why not just take an extension ladder and solve your problems?
This has GOT, GOT, GOT to be a troll!!!!!!
Onward, young Seth!! Gear left that long is considered abandoned!!!!
What would Rambo do?? He wouldn't leave no stinkin' gear!!!!!!
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Ian Gill
Big Wall climber
Redding, CA
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May 18, 2011 - 08:13pm PT
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Hey Rokjox!
I've got some original Friends bought out of the back of Ray Jardine's van that might fit in nicely with that collection. You know what? - They held before, and there's no reason they won't STILL hold - kinda like a solidly placed bong BITD.
Edit: Then again, they'll probably go up my next wall!!! Including a "homemade" #6 - we had to improvise in those days!
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Barcus
Social climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
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May 18, 2011 - 08:53pm PT
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Sounds like a bunch of Gear Kweers!
Marcus
Evil too!
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Jay Wood
Trad climber
Land of God-less fools
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May 18, 2011 - 11:01pm PT
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LOL!
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Rick Sylvester
Trad climber
Squaw Valley, California
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May 19, 2011 - 05:59am PT
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It's funny about equations, in this case how dismay at leaving behind, losing gear is probably pretty equal to the joy of those who find the booty. If that's any consolation....
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 11:39am PT
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“When your desires are strong enough, you will appear to possess superhuman powers to achieve” -- Napolean Hill
The drive to Donner was a quiet one. Jebus was cool enough to drive, I was just feeling out of sorts knowing what was to come. If "the pass" ,where soooo many ate each other long ago, was anything like the last night I was there, then I feared of what would transpire if Jebus and I got stuck. I mean, I like Jebus and all, but I REALLY like to eat.
Anyway, like I was saying, the drive was quiet and I had a lot of time to think. I kept thinking about the name of the climb that had changed my life: DESIRE. One afternoon of desire had spun out of control into days of mixed emotions. Anger, regret, fear,and disappointment.
It also showed me the true face of Supertopo. These faceless people that I had once considered family had shown their true selves. The sharks smelled blood, and they were circling.
Desire was a perfect name for the catalyst of this situation. They desired my gear and I desired someone else to get it back for me.
As we pulled off the road to park I could tell that conditions had extremely worsened since the other night. The stark landscape momentarily crushed my 'Desire' but one look at Jebus and I could see in his eyes that there was no turning back.
It was then that I realized this was a road I must travel alone.
"Sensei"
"Yes grasshopper?" Jebus replied.
"I think I need to do this alone."
"Go out there, alone!?! Are you mad man!!"
"I just may be Jebus, I just may be"
As I walked from the car I looked back to see Jebus's face lit in a ghostly fashion by the console lights.
"You CAN find good friends on Supertopo, hope is not lost, see you soon my friend" I muttered into the wintery evening.
The spring light allowed me to be taunted by "DESIRE" for most of the schlepp in. My legs kept post holing through the snow allowing the hidden manzanita to rip and claw at my legs. It was almost as if the mountain was trying to keep my gear for eternity, or at least until one of the sharks could "booty" it.
Finally at the bottom of the cliff Desire loomed above me. It may have been a minute, it may have been an hour that I stood at the bottom and stared at the beast that had basically shattered my worldview, exposing Supertopo for what it really was. A house of black-hearted climbers and thieves.
As I stood there the words of great man kept ringing through my head.
Now that I realize what a turd of a climb you are talking about, it all becomes clear.
Is the 5.9- rating proportionally easier than 5.9 as 5.9+ is harder?
Could it be? Could the climb actually be easier than I had thought?
It was at this point that I summoned the spirits and essence of free soloists around the world. Before I knew what I was doing my hands gripped the microcrimps of Desire.
Except they weren't my hands. They were Peter Croft's hands.
And looking at my feet, I didn't see my non-waterproof 5.10's but rather the bunched tube socks of the late-great Derek Hersey.
Was this my true DESIRE?
Had these past few days been the road to what I truly Desired.
I blinked and I was at the first bolt.
Blinked again and I found myself at the second bolt. A brief rush of nostalgic fear invaded my thoughts, but I summoned the steel nerves of Sir Alex and forged into unknown territory.
Staring at the third bolt know, I realized the second crux of the climb was still to come. The moves from this point on were a blur. I melted into the rock and it into me. We were one.
As I touched the anchors, I realized my Desire had been sated.
Pulling over the top I saw my gear nest covered in the powdered sugar of the gods and I felt relief.
I had done it, all on my own!!!!
Cleaning the gear I felt a strange connection with the mountain. I felt like I owed it something.
I grabbed one of the #1 Camelots I had freed and shove it back into a crack.
"This is for you, may your walls never crumble" I whispered, as I kissed my fingers and transferred my love to the stone.
Walking into the cool night, I realized I would never be the same.
On a side note, if you see my #1 please leave it be.
It's not booty.
But if you do grab it PM me, because I would love to have it back.
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nature
climber
Railay, Thailand
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May 19, 2011 - 12:06pm PT
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I need some oxygen over here!
I'm having a hard time breathing again!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 01:05pm PT
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I'm proud, Seth. You have slayed the beast.
Thanks Jebus, it's nice to have such a good friend in this land of haters.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 01:26pm PT
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I'm not worried, the kid will lose and lose again. I am putting a trace on his phone, downloaded to google maps. Never again will I have to wait for him to post the location of his easily bootied gear stashes.
Whatever, I'm going off the grid... as far as you are concerned I'm a ghost!!!
Leave my gear be...
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neversummer
Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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May 19, 2011 - 01:34pm PT
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I might be able to help retrive said gear. we could drill a bolt ladder up to your gear ill bring the drill but we need a small generator cause the drill runs on 110v, plus an extension cord.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 01:36pm PT
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Already got the gear, read previous page...
Bolt ladder sounds fun though, we can use the generator that Jebus and I have at River Rock for our new route development there.
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neversummer
Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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May 19, 2011 - 01:38pm PT
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WURD...
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 19, 2011 - 01:42pm PT
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Seth,
I'm not sure any of us are going to believe you until we see a picture of you and your gear - bring it!
kev
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 01:47pm PT
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Kev,
Proof will be posted...
Unfortunately, one of my students has a shiv pulled on me right now so it will have to wait until after school...
Sorry, tearing down the cliffs is not my only job...
I'm ready for the FA, just let me know, although I am short a #1
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 02:18pm PT
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Actually I am 6 feet tall...
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GoMZ
Trad climber
Eastern Sierra
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May 19, 2011 - 02:47pm PT
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Classic Seth, next time we climb we use your rack, I'll bring an extra #1 for you :-)))
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 02:49pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks Gomz!!!!
I guess this supertopo ain't all bad...
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Ian Gill
Big Wall climber
Redding, CA
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May 19, 2011 - 08:25pm PT
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Aaaargh, young Seth, ya scurvy bilge rat! Now send this thread ta Davey Jone's Locker where it belongs, lest the Booty Pirates swarm yer land yacht and plunder the rest 'o yer treasure and toss ya to the troll eatin' giant clams - Aaaaargh!!!!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 09:23pm PT
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Oh, it's done. :)
I've made my peace, have you?
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Ian Gill
Big Wall climber
Redding, CA
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May 19, 2011 - 09:28pm PT
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No hard feelings - I get amused at this stuff more than anything. Hey as an aging cancer survivor, I gotta have some fun, right? Glad you got your stuff back. I'm making a comeback - look me up next spring on El Cap, stand at the base, and you may just get some dropped booty of your own!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 10:06pm PT
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Dude, hard feelings? Never!!!
Way to beat the big C!!! I quit smoking (pack a day) three years ago and feel great but still worry :(
It's actually why I started climbing.
Good luck on the comeback and kick the Captains ass!!!
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2011 - 10:21pm PT
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Seth you need 19 jack n cokes and some fricken hugs man.
or maybe a 19 point anchor and some hugs...
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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May 20, 2011 - 10:58am PT
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Let me know when you bail on that 19 point anchor. That should about double my rack.
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seth kovar
climber
Reno, NV
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Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2011 - 11:03am PT
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Looks like I am taking Monday off then, "Showdown at the Summit"
bwa-ha-ha-ha
Jefe- you got it man, I will keep you updated. I'm all about helping a brother out.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Oct 29, 2012 - 08:47pm PT
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Wow. This thread was the bomb. Hook line and sinker indeed ... Well played.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Oct 29, 2012 - 08:57pm PT
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Why would they not delete Farouk also then??
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portent
Social climber
your mom's house
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bump for great threads!!!!!!
-kovar
p.s. I tried to bump the "werner braun is a turd" thread but it seems to be missing... ;)
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jul 21, 2014 - 09:20am PT
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I might have left my harness at Goldilocks. Not sure. Much appreciated if it turns up.
Do you guys even know who Rick Sylvester is? - "After working on the obviously overtightened gate for a while It really looked like I was not going to be able to help her. I was thinking that I'd have to get her out of her harness, safeguarding her somehow, then proceed from there."-Rick Sylvester
You should be honored.
Seriously though I can't find my harness. It's one of those nice ones that are permanently doubled back. Blue with a green belay loop. I'm using my Bod harness. Please.
Okay, I found it. Thanks.
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