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Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Apr 7, 2011 - 08:18pm PT
I think you have to stay centered in yourself, work on your own transformation, and then do whatever inspires you to share, write, fight or climb from that centered space

If we act from ego, we wind up chasing our tail, or fighting against people who just fight back.

peace

karl
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
Apr 7, 2011 - 08:24pm PT
I think you have to stay centered in yourself...

No worries, a couple here have this down to an art form.

fight... from that centered space

No problemo for these guys.

But then again,
If we act from ego, we wind up chasing our tail

Exactly.



LOL!
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Apr 7, 2011 - 09:05pm PT
I should note that by saying "centered in yourself" I mean "being present from your deep sense of Being" and not center on our idea of "Me! Me! Me!"

Mindfulness is not getting lost in our endless stories and reactions but "Be Here Now"

It's a cliche by now but it works

Peace

Karl
WBraun

climber
Apr 7, 2011 - 10:21pm PT
"Be Here Now"

Aren't we all here now?

If not where are we?

:-)
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 7, 2011 - 10:54pm PT
Over there , maybe ? Zappa
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Apr 7, 2011 - 10:59pm PT
"Be Here Now"

Aren't we all here now?

If not where are we?

I'm sure you're aware Werner, that it's possible to be so distracted by thoughts/worries of the future, memories and wounds from the past, and the chatter of the mind, that our attention is so divided that we lose the present moment.

Peace

karl
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 7, 2011 - 11:01pm PT
I was there then
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Apr 8, 2011 - 12:06am PT
That's what the haters say all us old guys on supertaco are about
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Apr 8, 2011 - 10:16am PT
Meanwhile back in the land of the techies, there's an interesting article in the New York Times about the hundreds of American engineers who are already drawing up plans in coordination with Toshiba who actually did the reactor construction, for how to dismantle the plants once they are finally brought under control.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/world/asia/08toshiba.html?_r=1&ref=global-home
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Apr 8, 2011 - 10:30am PT
By dismantle, do you mean the guys with the brooms who come along after they are forced to detonate a nuclear bomb to stop the meltdown?
I still think these links are the most informative things I have seen. The first shows the current level of radiation exposure we are experiencing here in various US cities, and the 2nd link shows projected/possible radiation transport based on current weather models. Click on the different links in the little blue box and give the weather maps time to fully load as they are animated. http://www.radiationnetwork.com/
http://transport.nilu.no/products/fukushima
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Apr 8, 2011 - 01:29pm PT
Japan has been hit by a 7.1 aftershock.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=weather/earthquake_center&id=8060595
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Apr 8, 2011 - 02:54pm PT
Here is a photo of one of the old tsunami warning stones.

This one says:

“High dwellings are the peace and harmony of our descendants.
Remember the calamity of the great tsunamis.
Do not build any homes below this point.”









TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 9, 2011 - 10:46pm PT







http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/04/09/2011-04-09_stranded_japanese_farmer_75_found_alone_in_minami_soma_city_rocked_by_tsunami_ea.html

The video inbeded in the story is an interesting and a bit unexpected contrast on what's happening at the other end of the socioeconomic spectrum,.

Jan,

Those stones are a precursor to the stones that will be eventually placed on the concrete filled monuments at fukushima.
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Apr 9, 2011 - 11:03pm PT
thanks Jan - those stones are really cool (and sad)
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Apr 10, 2011 - 01:57am PT
The stones are sad but the latest news on nuclear energy and the carelessness with which it was handled in Japan is absolutely shocking. The New York Times is reporting that after the latest 7.1 aftershock, two other reactors lost their cooling and had diesel generator failures. Both of those plants are to the north of the Fukushima complex.

The plants suffered temporary losses of cooling to spent fuel pools after electricity cutoffs and problems with backup diesel generators. The Higashidori plant lost all outside power. Although it had three backup diesel generators, two were out of service for periodic maintenance. The remaining one worked for a while, but later, after some outside power was restored, it stopped because some of its oil spilled out.

At the Onagawa plant, three out of four outside power lines went down, but the plant continued to operate on the fourth line. Although diesel backup was not needed, it was discovered that one of the plant’s two diesel generators had been out of order since April 1.

In a separate article, it was explained that most of the dangerous work at all the reactors in Japan is done by unskilled, itinerant temporary workers whose own safety is compromised along with the safety of the facilities. It is these workers who are being offered large amounts of money now to work at Fukushima.

The only good news is that the Japanese government has decided they need to create a commission separate from the nuclear industry to oversea that industry and to answer directly to the cabinet as it becomes more and more obvious that the owners of the nuclear plants had no clue to the dangers lurking and probably would have ignored them in favor of greater profits anyway.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Apr 11, 2011 - 05:47am PT
hey there say, all.... could not sleep, so i got up to pray...

say, got on line, too, and just sadly saw this:
hard aftershocks,about nearly an hour agao, and a tsunami warning, though, not sure what came of it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110411/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake


well, all for now...
god blesss...
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Apr 11, 2011 - 07:27am PT
This latest aftershock took place south of Fukushima so the fault line is gradually adjusting itself further south. This means that Tokyo could still have a big quake.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Apr 11, 2011 - 09:45am PT
Arnie Gundersen (nuclear engineer): Demonstrates How Fukushima's Fuel Rods Melted and Shattered
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x572279
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwvVJpyf_VY



Simple but to the point . . .
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Apr 11, 2011 - 11:19am PT
"In a separate article, it was explained that most of the dangerous work at all the reactors in Japan is done by unskilled, itinerant temporary workers whose own safety is compromised along with the safety of the facilities. It is these workers who are being offered large amounts of money now to work at Fukushima."


Are these the men the media has dubbed the Fukushima Fifty? The ones we call brave citizens aware of the cost they are paying? Shame. Shame. Shame, even if this is a separate group of people. Of COURSE those poverty-stricken men are doing the work, and aware of the cost. They sacrifice themselves so that their families will have a chance. It has been this way throughout time - it is part of why girl babies are killed, children are sold into servitude, and people accept what would otherwise be untenable situations. Those who take advantage of another's poverty(low wages, unsafe conditions, abusive behavior, scrimping on costs....) are scum of the earth.
Gene

climber
Apr 11, 2011 - 06:45pm PT
The Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan released a preliminary calculation Monday saying that the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant had been releasing up to 10,000 terabecquerels of radioactive materials per hour at some point after a massive quake and tsunami hit northeastern Japan on March 11.

The disclosure prompted the government to consider raising the accident's severity level to 7, the worst on an international scale, from the current 5, government sources said. The level 7 on the International Nuclear Event Scale has only been applied to the 1986 Chernobyl catastrophe.
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/84721.html

As Jan has pointed out many times, there is much hidden between the lines of these statements.

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