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Delhi Dog
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Good Question...
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"Let me ask you all this; How many of you would rather help the homeless in the U.S.than give one more dime in aid those countries whose people and governments hate us?"
Me, butt then I'd be called a bleeding heart liberal, or worse a Democrat...
Cheers,
DD
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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What was missing in that article with the NY times is this?
Gates did say in the speech that virtually every recent military involvement was unpredicted beforehand. He said "when it comes to predicting the nature and location of our next military engagements, since Vietnam, our record has been perfect. We have never gotten it right."
Which brings this to mind to the current ME situation and again with many analysts caught off-guard. [Which is typical with agencies: CIA and FBI not communicating with each other on“9/11 as another example”] and didn't foresee change in these movements.
Now that the CIA is clueless, it will be funny to see what they will do next, should they currently bribe or give $$$$$ to our favorite dictators to create the violence and terror to keep it status qua with guns and less butter or should they [we the taxpayer] be starting with building educational institutes, giving out free laptops to the poor and more MTV to the ME.
And just one more added thought: Would they get Fu#king Charlie Sheen off the air and change to it something more educational by adding maybe more Judge Judy or Springer shows.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Mar 11, 2011 - 08:42pm PT
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Matt, f*#k off!
Since Dean was chastized for mentioning this on the Japan quake thread, I'll bump it here.
I do sympythize with Japan. Let me premise that.
What happend in Japan was a 'natural' disaster' we can do nothing about these things but react to them in a compassionate manner. Help people in need.
Why have we not done that in Libya yet? WTF? They have military personeel firing on civilians. And we sit around with Marines off the coast doing nothing?
Obama is such a pussy that the French are looking hawkish on this matter. And good for them! But is this where we have gone?
It's not just troubling, but sad. We used to be a beacon of liberty that people harkened to for help. And we usually came.
I'm disappointed for my country.
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Mar 11, 2011 - 10:41pm PT
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Blue, you blather like an idiot. Seriously, you don't know sh#t about what's going on in Libya. You rant about conservative bullshit and then want us to jump in, spend a gazillion dollars playing world cop? Shhhh...just keep your insanity inside your head.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Bay Area , California
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2011 - 07:12pm PT
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So Situation in Bahrain and is Libya warming up. We'll see how thing will ends up in the next few weeks .
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Mar 17, 2011 - 07:18pm PT
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want us to jump in, spend a gazillion dollars playing world cop?
That is a total exagerration. And not really what I advocated.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 19, 2011 - 09:52pm PT
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so anyway, i went bouldering today. it was sweet. so somethings going on in north africa? wtf? so out of touch. just shoot me.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Apr 29, 2011 - 06:28pm PT
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So the new government of Egypt plans to "normalize" relations with Hamas and the Iranian dictatorship while doing nothing to help their "brothers" in Libya, Syria or Iran.
Fattrad wins this round.
Fatrad: 1
Graniteclimber: 0
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apr 29, 2011 - 06:32pm PT
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I think I earlier claimed getting rid of Mubarak was not a good idea right now. That nefarious forces would step in...
And how about that Syria? Me and TGT called that one too. That wonderful and peaceful Muslim Brotherhood is riling up shit!
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Apr 29, 2011 - 06:49pm PT
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Fatrad: 1
Bluering: 1
TGT: 1
Graniteclimber: 0
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apr 29, 2011 - 07:17pm PT
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Well, granite, you get points for being honest. I'll give ya that.
And yeah, Crowley, when gov't forces started gunning down kids coming out of mosques in Libya, I was behind deposing Gaddafi. But you have to be careful with these countries. France and Italy, behind our firepower, should be the "nation-builders" in Libya. You can't just have a power vacuum.
The nasties will take over...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apr 29, 2011 - 08:04pm PT
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Crowley, why do you keep copying posts? Are you afraid they'll be deleted like many of your posts?
I almost never delete a post. I stick to my guns.
Do you have any opinions on this thread. Personal opinions of the conflicts? Didn't think so. You just spout crap.
EDIT: Crowley, you're never right or wrong because you don't offer an opinion on the issues. You just spout crap.
Lame...If you have no opinion, then STFU!!! You're worse than people who take a stand or state an opinion, and are later wrong. You are lame, dude.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apr 29, 2011 - 08:07pm PT
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And yer point is????
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Apr 29, 2011 - 08:26pm PT
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I also posted against Gaddafi.
That may have been a mistake also. He is bad, but his replacement might be worse.
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