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Ksolem
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Monrovia, California
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Jan 27, 2011 - 04:38pm PT
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According to the Carnegie Endowment Mubarak is over 80 and in failing health. Also this is an election year, so the prospect of who will be his successor is on people's minds. It appears Mubarak has a son who he is grooming for the job.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Jan 27, 2011 - 04:45pm PT
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Ok. The Carnegie Endowment is one of those "Internationalist Organizations" that is affiliated with the Council on Foreign Relations. You know...those guys who publish International Affairs? This group has been an eminence grise behind the corporatist-socialist block ever since W.W. I. These guys are very devious and specialize in fukking with governments--to their advantage.
To quote Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the master politician of all time, "In the arena of politics and international affairs, NOTHING happens by accident."
The old Romans asked the question when a member of the Senate died or was assassinated: "Que Bene?" Or, "who benefits."
Maybe I'm just viewing the world through feces colored glasses? But again, that's just me, I guess.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jan 27, 2011 - 04:51pm PT
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"In the arena of politics and international affairs, NOTHING happens by accident."
Who was he trying to kid with that whopper? Oh, that's right, us.
Planes crash. Ships sink. Assassins miss. Sh*t happens. The idea that nothing happens by accident is so utterly preposterous as to be insane.
Whatever you think about the Carnegie Foundation, there are some pretty good interviews on that site if you take the time to look.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Jan 27, 2011 - 05:17pm PT
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The last President who actually served in the military in time of war was Bush I, USN. He flew a Grumman TBF Avenger torpedo bomber, and won the Navy Cross. The Navy Cross is the second highest decoration awarded, after the Medal of Honor. It's not a decoration given out lightly, and was not a political deal.
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jstan
climber
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Jan 27, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
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That's odd Ron. This is what Obama said in his speech.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 27, 2011 - 06:05pm PT
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DMT,
I have para-military experience and will be consigliere to Cantor. And my friend Don Nelson will be running the Pentagon.
The evil one
Name dropper.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 27, 2011 - 06:16pm PT
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Fatty, your post is another illustration why 'W" and the Neocons should be condemned for their idiotic adventurism in Iraq. Perhaps, if we had kept our eye on the ball (Afghanistan), that stoning wouldn't have occurred.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 27, 2011 - 06:22pm PT
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I think we need the draft and a tax hike ASAP. Obviously, we'll see neither.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 27, 2011 - 06:38pm PT
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Fattrad posted this whopper of disinformation.
The guy in Tunisia was actually quite benevolent, Fats, if you actually believe this you are more massively uninformed than I thought possible for an adult.
Tami is right this is about the roots of this unrest.
This is a clash of socio-economics.
And Fatty? Use that big breath to blow up your sheep.
Best line this year. Kudos TK.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 27, 2011 - 06:39pm PT
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Funny thing Tami, threads like this rarely stay on topic- hence their long life. Climbing threads, especially the good ones, stay on topic and experience an early demise- go figure.
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Anastasia
climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Jan 27, 2011 - 06:43pm PT
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Tami,
You are my hero!
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Bay Area , California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2011 - 08:08pm PT
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Dingus
we talk later and may be privately
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Jan 27, 2011 - 08:37pm PT
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i may not agree with fatty but poor lil AC is making up for his neglected childhood when he didnt get to nurse on his moms tit til he was 16....
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corniss chopper
climber
not my real name
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Jan 27, 2011 - 08:42pm PT
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Turning off the water and electricity to the ordinary Egyptian will just
send more of them into the streets.
I'd bet US spy satellites will be watching the desert outside Cairo for bulldozers digging mass graves for all the dead detainees.
Try to look at the Cairo airport arrivals/departures ..zip..nothing
cairo-airport.com
http://www.cairo-airport.com/
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 27, 2011 - 08:50pm PT
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Foundation for Defense of Democracies
What pragmatic neocons call themselves these days. They're working on an replacement for their "everyone-loves-us-and-the-ME-just-needs-a-push-at-the-right-domino" theory. Who knew, instead of invading Afghanistan and Iraq they should have just invested in early versions of social media.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jan 27, 2011 - 08:50pm PT
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Sadat was killed for signing that treaty. One of those behind the killing went on to the first world trade center attack as well.
The nation of Egypt did not sign that treaty. Sadat did.
DMT
All the more reason to quell these savages who are protesting. All the more to support the secular Mubarak and tell the Muslim Brotherhood crowd to f*#k off or receive a round to the face.
I'm so tired of these f*#ks.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jan 27, 2011 - 08:56pm PT
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Oh, and those of you who want to go all nationalistic and stay out of their affairs? Good luck, it's too late. And it ain't because of Bush, Israel, Iraq, or Asscrapistan.
Look deeper and further.
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