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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
Back in the Gunks for the winter
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 24, 2011 - 04:57pm PT
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I don't know that this really falls under bad parenting, it seems a tad risky, but I don't have kids so I can't really make that call definitively...
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Captain...or Skully
climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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Jan 24, 2011 - 04:58pm PT
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I dunno, they look solid to me. Just another redpoint.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
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Now, if that kid were wearing a wing suit ...
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:03pm PT
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I would yell "FAKE!" except that I believe this stuff happens after reading a book of true stories by a ranger in a park where a lot of trash hangs out. One of the stories was about some guy throwing the baby into the car window as the wife speeds away because he is disgusted that the wife would not deal with the kid, or something like that.
It's only bad parenting if you drop them. Kids get thrown around and are in a lot of danger often in their young lives. That throw was probably safer than the car ride there.
Or it's photo-shopped and they were throwing something else in the original.
Dave
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:04pm PT
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This should be a caption contest...
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NigelSSI
Trad climber
BC
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:05pm PT
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That baby has great form.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:05pm PT
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Both "adults" seem to be wearing climbing equipment, which suggests that they may be somewhat better able to judge what they're doing, and be able to do it, than the general public.
The crouched stance of the woman suggests that she has indeed just propelled something moderately heavy.
The photo doesn't seem high enough resolution beyond that, to judge whether the baby was photoshopped in.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:08pm PT
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From the clothes they are wearing I'd say that kid is in college by now.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:09pm PT
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That's good, Jeff - prima facie indication that she won't grow up to be a Republican.
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Josh Nash
Social climber
riverbank ca
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:13pm PT
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I say it's fake. they both have climbing gear so what do they do with the kid? I thought the dad might be wearing a baby-pack but it doesn't look like one. the pack is just an empty internal frame. I may be wrong....
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:15pm PT
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I say "fake." The guy's right hand seems to be to the left of the kid. His hand also seems to be smaller than should be compared to the baby size. The woman's posture makes it look like she tossed "the child" using a pushing throw rather than a more careful underhand toss. I would likely have tossed the kid with my left hand supporting the belly and use my right hand to propel from the buttocks.
Edit: Plus, the picture is just too perfectly timed. Exactly at the midpoint of the throw? I don't think so.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:16pm PT
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Now that's good parenting.
The kid has awesome form.
Everyone should fly sometimes .....
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Gene
climber
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:20pm PT
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Both "adults" seem to be wearing climbing equipment, which suggests that they may be somewhat better able to judge what they're doing, and be able to do it, than the general public.
Quote of the year!!!
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hooblie
climber
from where the anecdotes roam
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
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any stylistic maneuvers normally associated the harlem globetrotters
would be deemed bad parenting indeed because, good form or not
these guys are honkies
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:24pm PT
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It does look a little bit like it's been photoshopped. Kind of looks like blended or changed pixels around the baby.
I seem to recall this photo from a few years back, that they were really tossing a rope. Also, the guy is wearing a climbing pack, not a baby pack. I think most people carrying a baby around have some sort of baby container. The whole thing looks staged, no matter what they were tossing.
IF it was a baby toss - nice work! Way to get out with the kid.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:24pm PT
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The judge from Berzerkistan was going to give them a 7.0, but raised it to a 9.5 on news that $100,000 had been deposited to her numbered Swiss account.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:26pm PT
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Fake or not, it gives me the creeps to look at it.
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:30pm PT
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It's ok, the red bull gives him wings.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:32pm PT
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It was great until the onlookers cheered and he instinctively spiked the kid.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:52pm PT
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instinctively spiked the kid... classic
edit... i know those guys. They wrote a book about parenting and climbing in the eighties I think. It was called "Moving Fast and Light in the Mountains with Babies"
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:53pm PT
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That's it, the divorce is final!
Good one Ron.
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:55pm PT
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You keep him, you said he's Beckey's anyway!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 05:59pm PT
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During a big fire the firemen were having a bit of trouble. A woman was stuck on the fourth floor with her baby. The fire fighters instructed her to toss the child out the window, under which they had placed a net, but the mother refused.
Things looked grim until a tall, well-built man burst through the crowd and shouted to the woman. It was O.J. Simpson. He said that he was a professional football player, and that he could catch the baby safely. In fact, he could catch anything. After a few minutes more of reassurances, the mother finally let the child drop.
Simpson made a breathtaking running catch, and everybody cheered. At that moment he suddenly raised the child high in the air, spiked it on the ground and screamed, "Touchdown!"
(A good joke to tell around a fire, as my friend Scott once did. You can drag out the mother's indecision, and the run to catch the baby.)
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 07:20pm PT
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Britney Spears goes climbing.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jan 24, 2011 - 07:23pm PT
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Good thing Michael Jackson never saw this
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Jan 24, 2011 - 07:25pm PT
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I swear I saw this on here before and folks knew the couple...A BITD J-tree thread I think...
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kinnikinik
Trad climber
B.C.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 07:51pm PT
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socalbolter
Sport climber
Silverado, CA
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Jan 24, 2011 - 08:00pm PT
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I know this family and the photo is real.
The baby (girl) is now a mid-teens young woman.
Both parents are (and were) accomplished climbers and I doubt that they would have done this if for a second they thought that it would not turn out just fine (as it did).
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 24, 2011 - 08:04pm PT
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Not so sure,... maybe.
But I bet weld-it got spiked as a kid.
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Jan 24, 2011 - 09:36pm PT
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No helmet = bad parents
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 24, 2011 - 09:43pm PT
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Doesn't "prana" have something to do with breathing exercises?
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Jan 24, 2011 - 10:58pm PT
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Pfft: the kids diggin it.
BTW, rangers have a documented tale in Yellowstone of some parents trying to get a kid onto the back of a Bison so they could get some pictures. They got lucky and no one got gored.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jan 24, 2011 - 11:27pm PT
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Yeah, that's Jeff Leads and his now EX wife.
If it is, (don't think so) the irony is his job description is, safety supervisor.
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Anastasia
climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Jan 25, 2011 - 12:38am PT
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What's the big deal? It appears safe to me.
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hoipolloi
climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
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Jan 25, 2011 - 12:52am PT
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My parents knew what they were doing.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Jan 25, 2011 - 01:21am PT
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Bad parenting......working 24/7 and leaving the kid(s) sitting in the house with video games. Kids want yo not things.
We raised 4 kids. My husband did tons of stuff with them while I watched and said they're "gonna die"....like letting them walk on logged logs sitting on the coast of the northwest coast, letting them swim across Alice Lake in Canada, walking around some whirl pool that (if you fell in) would suck you underground and spit you out @ 2 miles later. I could go on for hours......zeriously.
Today they are alive and great with kiddos of their own.
Dang, people took their kids on wagon trains from the East to the Mid West and West. Faced weather, starvation, hostile environments and people.
What up with these politically correct, judgemental days we live in ?????
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 25, 2011 - 01:40am PT
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Does anyone here enjoying playing helicopter with small folk?
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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Jan 25, 2011 - 01:41am PT
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That kid looks Asian and the a-dults are white.
Kidnapping and running through the desert.
Just like running drugs in AZ.
New income for unemployed white America along the border.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Jan 25, 2011 - 01:57am PT
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you have to be careful when tossing your babies around like that because they can end up with symptoms similar to that of shaken babies. also, the consequences of any random problem like a bee sting at the wrong moment are terrible. the baby wasn't going to get dropped on grass. we get that you're hardcore. don't bring the baby into it.
Classic t*r.
Yeah, don't worry, you can keep the kiddies safe, just keep 'em in the plexi-bubble, and never EVER take 'em anywhere that might be a wee bit dangerous.....
Yer pretty judgemental for someone who's never had a kid or a desire to involve the kids in the danger....I mean adventure.
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Anastasia
climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Jan 25, 2011 - 03:18pm PT
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We've been raising kids for a few thousand years. I wouldn't throw all of those "old" yet proven wisdom out for those "new and improved ideas."
Plus I think each child is different. Even siblings can't be raised the same since they will have different needs, strength and weaknesses. Plus since the child is a genetic result of the parents, I do believe they will have a better clue on how to deal with a child that is "like them."
My brother was an easy going kid that didn't go far from his parents and I... I was out wandering the Sespe at the age of five. It was obvious from the get go that we had completely different needs. Petros responded to "No" easily and I... Well, like my Dad I took it as a challenge and... It was my Dad who tamed me since he was familiar with how my brain worked.
AFS
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xkyczar
Trad climber
denver
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Jan 25, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
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Isn't that from the latest patagucci catalog? Or did I miss someone already pointing that out?
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gtichris
Boulder climber
seattle
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Jan 25, 2011 - 05:12pm PT
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gtichris
Boulder climber
seattle
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Jan 25, 2011 - 06:03pm PT
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in defense of Tami, the baby is probably safer than if you were on a steep trail/slope with no rope.
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atokasandstone
Trad climber
Harrison, AR
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Jan 25, 2011 - 06:29pm PT
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I snapped this picture of my kids and their friends while on a camping/float trip a few years ago. Before everyone gets pissy, my wife was in the boat, I just asked her to duck down. When we got home, I emailed the picture to their parents and grand parents. It wasn't 5 minuted before the phone rang with them asking, "What the hell kind of parents are yall?" We had a big time!
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S.Leeper
Social climber
Ft. Useless, Virginia
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Jan 25, 2011 - 06:34pm PT
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It's photoshop.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 25, 2011 - 06:42pm PT
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Gimmee your kid and I'll free solo something rad holding on to him with my other hand.
You can take photos while sweating and freaking out.
It will be cool .....
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Jan 25, 2011 - 06:44pm PT
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Stick with the ghetto blaster, Werner. :)
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Jan 25, 2011 - 06:48pm PT
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Gimmee your kid and I'll free solo something rad holding on to him with my other hand.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jan 25, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
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TK,
TFF!
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scuffy b
climber
Three feet higher
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Jan 25, 2011 - 07:26pm PT
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They weren't trying to prove anything, it was piss easy, two feet,
and they'd had a lot of practice beforehand, and your dad did worse things
with you.
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 26, 2011 - 12:32am PT
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People need to chill out. That is a perfect freaking spiral if I ever saw one. Either that or the raddest game of hot-potato/custody battle Ive seen caught on film.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 26, 2011 - 12:34am PT
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Some pre-Super Bowl ritual, perhaps. In some of the redder parts of the US, it might be considered child abuse if you didn't do these sorts of things.
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cms
climber
toyota, tacoma
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Jan 26, 2011 - 11:30am PT
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I see people do that all the time with their kids in the climbing gym? whats the problem?
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lucymay
Boulder climber
Denver, Colorado
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Jan 26, 2011 - 12:48pm PT
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Of course it's not real!!
The original photo is this:
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Jan 26, 2011 - 12:53pm PT
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There you go. Where did this photo appear? I know I've seen it before.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jan 26, 2011 - 01:12pm PT
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HEY thats Jeff Leads!
Awesome dude, one of the nicest guys you will ever meet in any climbing circle.
If that is the daughter I met, she is probably in her late teens and is a really cool kid. Funny story, I was trying to crash a match class at Mira Costa and this GORGEOUS girl next to me had a necklace that was a rap ring. Of course I knew she was light years out of my league, but I liked talking to pretty people, I asked her if she knew what that trinket was. "Oh this? Its a peice of climbing equipment, my dad made it for me."
"Oh really? Whats his name?"
"Jeff Leads."
Small world, eh? Well I didn't get on the roster for the class, but I see the family every once in a while at the gym. Good people, the lot.
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jordeeeeen
Gym climber
encinitas,ca
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Jan 26, 2011 - 10:25pm PT
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This is me. I am now 19 years old. This photo was taken for a famous photographer. Everything is fine in the head.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jan 27, 2011 - 03:34am PT
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Crazy, this thread pulled the 19 yr old flying baby out of the woodwork.
Go directly to jail nowadays if you pulled that toss in the right place.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jan 27, 2011 - 07:15am PT
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Oh Duck!
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jordeeeeen
Gym climber
encinitas,ca
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Jan 27, 2011 - 10:33am PT
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@tami. Yes, once a climber always a climber. I played every sport you could when I was younger, field hockey in high school, and now I just spend 2 hours at the gym everyday.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Who's pulling who's leg, come on. Get real.
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perswig
climber
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Kismet that this thread revived today.
I'm in line at the local convenience store, standing behind an obese mother and her 2 year old daughter. Mom's got two packs of cigs and a sixer of Red Bull on the counter, while her daughter plays with candy from the rack. Mom looks down and says "Put that back. It's bad for you".
I almost died laughing.
Dale
(disclaimer: I was buying coffee and a b-fast sammich, so it's a tossup which of us will die first from our personal toxins)
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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My first born, and daughter Lyddie in an UN-photoshopped picture...
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Feb 10, 2012 - 09:02pm PT
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That guy rocks! That's good parenting. Most kids these days suck at life, like that guys daughter.
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Bad Climber
climber
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Feb 11, 2012 - 09:15am PT
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I LOVE that father. I could totally see my dad trying something similar. Interesting lesson on several levels for the girl. Besides showing more respect for her parents, maybe she learned a fairly easy lesson on controlling her online expression. Let's face it: Most of us probably ragged on our parents to friends about chores and stuff--and maybe laced it with our budding abilities to curse. But when this girl posted it on FB, she took to the next level. Not so cool. Learning self-control isn't easy. At least this girl has a father who really cares about her.
BAd
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 10:04am PT
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Looks like the parenting I received (without having been given those toys, and I certainly had a job at 14).
One year, I peeked at a christmas gift. Parents knew and said nothing. I opened the gift on xmas morning, they immediately took it away and put it in the trash where it remained. It was a charm bracelet. Never even considered peeking again.
Another time, my sister had gotten a hold of some controlled substances my mom subsequently found. That night, we were going to eat dinner at the table which was unusual and reserved only for about two holiday dinners a year. (Generally we ate on the floor. No joke). Wondered what was up. We all sat down to eat, and our centerpiece was --- drugs. Yowza.
I laugh now. Pretty tense at the time.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
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Feb 11, 2012 - 10:55am PT
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The challenge some have is to "rise above your raising."
Many do. I count myself among them.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 11:20am PT
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True Tim. My parents (children themselves at the time) were harsh. I don't want to come across as dissing them. They did the best they could. We all survived and are thriving productive people. I bet all parents do things they later regret. We learned lessons - all of which probably could have been learned in other ways.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Feb 14, 2017 - 08:21pm PT
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JC Marin
Trad climber
CA
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Feb 14, 2017 - 09:51pm PT
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Glad the baby (or backpack) made it...looks like any afternoon at Trashcan rock in JTree..danger.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 15, 2017 - 08:04am PT
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Feb 15, 2017 - 08:18am PT
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Apr 11, 2019 - 07:59am PT
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hey there say, trad, neat bump...
and, 'rebump' by brandon_ ...
i enjoyed hearing the daughter... :)
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