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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Wow it stayed up there a long time with just those slings holding it! Frightening. Thanks for cutting that bastard loose!
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hossjulia
Social climber
Eastside (of the Tetons)
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Damn! Good job.
(Why do people post to Vimeo? Never loads worth a sh#t.)
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jstan
climber
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I can't watch vimeo at all.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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The quality of Vimeo is superb but it does require a decent computer and very good internet speeds.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
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Nov 25, 2012 - 12:06pm PT
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A Vimeo trick that may work for some, especially if it's constantly stopping and starting to buffer video: Start the video and then immediately pause it. It will continue to download the stream and (I assume) temporarily store it somewhere on disk. When the "gray" download progress bar gets all the way to the right of the video scrubber, then you can play the whole thing unadulterated. If you navigate away from the video page, you'll have to start all over again most times.
Eric
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Nov 25, 2012 - 12:47pm PT
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Well it's gone now, but what I didn't understand was why it was such a big deal - its removal, that is. Was it because of endangering folk below or was there something else?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 25, 2012 - 12:54pm PT
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It was just hanging by a string. It could have let loose anytime over a fairly popular part of the base. A time bomb that was gonna drop. Better to do it during the slow season with a clear fall zone. Safe and fun way to get rid of the hazard.
Nice work
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 25, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
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why it was such a big deal
Obviously you didn't read the report nor want to understand this huge potential hazard that can easily kill people in such a high traffic area of the park.
This block is actually pretty small compared to the the block me and Shipley launched out of Dolt hole years before.
Shipley and Scott Stowe also launched one during the flood of 96-97 from high on the Nose while the park was completely empty.
NPS YOSAR team also launched one from Stovelegs on the Nose.
One only needs to stand at the base of a wall to have some blocks of granite rain down on them some time to get the true feelings of urgency in these matters ......
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Nov 25, 2012 - 01:57pm PT
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Obviously you didn't read the report nor want to understand this huge potential hazard that can easily kill people in such a high traffic area of the park.
No Werner, that is exactly what I understood. I just wondered if there was some sort of weird ethical twist to it. I'd have thought dealing with it sooner rather than later was a better idea than leaving it suspended by a few slings like a time bomb... which could easily kill folks more readily than a controlled cutting loose.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 25, 2012 - 03:15pm PT
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jaaan, it is likely that there would be climbers in the fallout zone on any fair weather day (or night) from March - November each year, and on some days during the winter. There are several very popular short free climbs there, as well as the starts of several popular wall routes. Not to mention the odd tourist. There are relatively few windows with little or no likelihood of people below, and even then you can see from the original post on the other thread (http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1971941/Death-Block-Removed-from-Freerider); that active area management was needed. A block that size falling 500 m can produce a lot of shrapnel.
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Relic
Social climber
Vancouver, BC
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Nov 25, 2012 - 03:24pm PT
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I learned last month having a high speed large projectile rock hell bent on smashing you and your friends' helmet wearing melons into a pulp isn't fun at the base of Salathé Wall.
Thanks for the safe trundle.
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Nov 25, 2012 - 03:34pm PT
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Thanks for that MH. As I said that is exactly what I thought. However, the fact that it had been there two years or so simply led me to wonder if there was some other reason not to throw it off. That seemed plenty of time to just close the area for enough time to despatch it safely. But Werner put me right...
I have a nice very long Lost Arrow as a memento from doing La Escuela a long time ago... I heard it coming for several seconds before it ricoched past me and embedded itself into the ground not far from my pack.
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