can you prove anything ive said wrong????

Klimmer: Can't trust that the image(s) have not been tampered with.
Those images come from:

http://contrailscience.com/

It is a serious disinfo website.

The GOES loop I did borrow, but it was also clearly marked at the bottom as done by someone else from the TOP SECRET forum community, and they were willing to put their user name on it. This person would be sticking their neck out there and it would be harder to fake them and risk being discovered and ruining their reputation.

Klimmer, are the Rick Warren pics fake?

What a stupid question. Of course they are. What was I thinking?

(Image: NASA/NOAA)

The thin white line in this satellite image doesn't look like much, but it was the cause of a lot of confusion and consternation last week when it was attributed to a mysterious missile launch. The image bears out the theory that the contrail was caused by a plane, says a NASA researcher.

Last Monday, a news helicopter flying off the coast of California shot a video showing what appeared to be a missile launch above the Pacific Ocean. Puzzlingly, the Pentagon had no immediate explanation for the observation.

Outside experts pointed out that airplanes can leave contrails that look like missile launches from some angles, and by Wednesday, the Pentagon said a plane was the most likely cause.

The horizontal contrail in this image, taken by the Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite 11, supports that theory, says Patrick Minnis, a contrail expert at NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia. "While viewing some blogs, I found that the contrail corresponded remarkably well with flight AWE808, which flew from Hawaii to Phoenix," said Minnis in an article on NASA's website.

Indeed, a contrail forecast assembled by David Duda and Rabindra Palikonda, also at Langley, showed that "conditions were 'ripe' for persistent contrails over the Pacific west of Los Angeles" when the mysterious object was seen, the article says.

But I'm sure he doesn't want to because the owner of Contrail Science, it isn't based on science at all but disinformation. Hard to trust someone who is lying about the event on 11-8-10.

Look at Eshler art. Can't pull off that illusion in a true 3D model.

The problem with the shots you keep trying to use to argue with cannot be turned into stereograms because they are always taken from the same exact vantage point, more than likely with a tripod. Rick sat still, didn't move from one location to another close-by and take the same scene.