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Hootervillian
climber
Yellow Post #5
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Nov 28, 2005 - 12:03pm PT
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i don't know him, he couldn't care less, but i find myself curiously attracted to this thread. found i have included it in 'my programs' as my Nana used to say. i'm such a hypocrite. sorry Nana.
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John Vawter
Social climber
San Diego
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Nov 28, 2005 - 01:30pm PT
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Somebody post a link to Reardon's site please. I have it bookmarked at home but not here at work. Tried Googling Mike and Michael Reardon climbing etc., freesolo.com, free soloing, soloing, and looking for links on other websites. Nothing is working for me this morning.
Edit:
Thanks pc.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Ca
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Nov 28, 2005 - 01:52pm PT
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I think Mike wouldn't make such a deal of it all if other people weren't so screwed up about it in the first place. Mike just likes to have fun. He has more energy than I anyone I know and it is infectious to be around. I have known him since he started climbing and the growth he has enjoyed as a climber since he semi-retired and started climbing full time is impressive.
Besides, it seems like Jake doesn't like being out-soloed and is back in training! The next few years could be interesting.
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landcruiserbob
Trad climber
the ville, colorado
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Nov 28, 2005 - 02:16pm PT
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The dude rocks.He may have some tweaked energy & is a bit over the top. The sh#t he just did in the needles is amazing.rg
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Nov 28, 2005 - 06:45pm PT
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Watch out Mr. Goat, I think ye contradicts yeself, for ye state:
"However, I also think part of [climbing mag's] bad editing work is reflected in publishing articles such as the one concerning Reardon's send of the Palisades."
Which you quickly follow with:
"I will say, though, that I find the accomplishments of the hard sport climbers and boulders quite impressive. But not nearly as impressive as what takes place in the backcountry."
If Reardon's rip of the Pal Traverse ain't a bad-ass backcountry send, then I don't know what is. So what's it going to be, do you like backcountry accomplishments or don't cha?
Personally I think yer just jealous of all the undergarments that MR has to spread across the high Sierra. If he instead signed all the registers like a happy Jack, would you have anything to grouse about? At least there's a sense of humor in there somewhere, unlike your pittyful comment about wanting the guy to either change his ways or take the fly.
Remember young stud; if you don't like the news, then go out and make some of your own.
:- k
PS. Werner, us me more about the route that Croft & Shultz worked on, but Mr.R boasts of a 3rd class...
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yo
climber
NOT Fresno
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Nov 28, 2005 - 07:00pm PT
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Not sure if it's what Werner's talking about, but the Romantic Warrior piece mentions like "many top roped teams, including Croft and Schultz," have failed to redpoint (or maybe onsight) the route.
Come on, kids, MR is trolling you.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 28, 2005 - 07:24pm PT
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k-man
”us me more about the route that Croft & Shultz worked on, but Mr.R boasts of a 3rd class”
I don’t know anything about this but I remember reading about it somewhere. The post from Dave 7 posts up is the stuff I’m always hearing about Michael. Yes the "Romantic Warrior piece" is one in particular, Yo, that I heard about that seems so outlandish.
There isn’t any jealousy or envy involved in questioning controversial claims and statements made by Michael. There are a lot of doubters to some of his claims and it does not stem from any jealousy or envy.
Like myself I’ve seen and witnessed a lot of the best free soloists in time, and there was no doubt or controversy surrounding those, but with Reardon there seems to be way to much to give total credence to all his so called claims, ie lack of credible witnesses and unaltered full sequences of photos/videos that he presented as evidence to some of his more outlandish solo claims.
My point is not to put him down whatsoever but there is an old saying that if there is enough rumors and controversy there is a degree of truth to some of it, unless it is dispelled through proof by credible witnesses or evidence.
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James
Social climber
My Subconcious
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2005 - 08:24pm PT
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You have a reasonable argument Werner.
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marky
climber
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Nov 28, 2005 - 08:27pm PT
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the panties-and-Ninja Turtles thing is funny enough. But it's littering plain and simple. slap a fine on the guy or put him on Litter Patrol in any one of the national parks.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Straight Outta Squamton
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Nov 28, 2005 - 08:36pm PT
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I'd pay big bucks to see an unedited video of him soloing Moonbeam Crack...
And as long as yer filming, why knott just burn a quick lap on Equinox for the camera?
Hot Rocks would be cool too––I could use some beta on that one.
I mean, the EBGB's video was bad ass.
I would like to see some of the harder stuff as well.
Apparently I'm knott the only one?
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Fluoride
Trad climber
on a rock or mountain out west
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Nov 28, 2005 - 10:23pm PT
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Werner wrote:
"My point is not to put him down whatsoever but there is an old saying that if there is enough rumors and controversy there is a degree of truth to some of it, unless it is dispelled through proof by credible witnesses or evidence."
I could not DISAGREE more about your adage. Rumors and controversy towards people who find themselves in the limelight usually start with people with not much going on in their own empty lives that live to analyze or take down others due to their own insecurities. Most of the people who talk smack about Michael or say he's full of sh#t either don't know the guy, or have such inferiority complexes themselves that talking bad about the guy makes them feel better about their sad selves.
Michael's had enough credible witnesses to enough of his accomplishments that those who live to call him full of crap are probably the ones who are actually the ones full of crap. Even though that probably came out wrong, but you know what I mean.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 28, 2005 - 10:46pm PT
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So then Fluoride, you are calling that guy dave a liar and full of crap?
And we are not talking about, "Most of the people who talk smack...", but honest inquiries, since most people do not know about these incredible free solo feats, nor the man behind them.
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mtwoodsonguide
Big Wall climber
San Diego
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Nov 28, 2005 - 10:59pm PT
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A legitimate question for Michael Reardon-
I climbed from Thunderbolt to Sill around the 24th of August 2005
This would make me the next person after you to summit at least a couple of these, if not all of them.
I read and signed each summit register on Thunderbolt, Starlight, North Pal, Pemonium, and Sill.
Why did I see no sign of you? I thought you left some sort of souvenours or something.
Erik Roed, San Diego
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kevin Fosburg
Sport climber
park city,ut
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Nov 28, 2005 - 11:07pm PT
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Just read the R&I article about Reardon soloing Romantic Warrior. It sounds pretty convincing. I agree with what Randy Leavitt is quoted as saying therein, "Despite not knowing Michael and never having climbed with him or seen him climb, I have to take him at his word because that's the way the sport has always been to me."
That's the way it's always seemed to me too. If you tell someone you did a certain climb in a certain way, you expect to be believed and if someone claims something you take them at their word. I mean, shiite, a bunch of people saw him solo the Turbo Flange. That seems somewhat proud and indicative.
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funkness
climber
So,Ca.
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Nov 28, 2005 - 11:51pm PT
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I'm jealous of his hair.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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Nov 28, 2005 - 11:53pm PT
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Dave, maybe your experience with MR shows something that no one has said and even
the opposite of what others have said...
Have you ever soloed anything?(Not a jab)
I have only soloed like 2or 3 climbs in my life...the hardest was only 5.9...
but the last thing I wanted was people around to distract me or anything! I was feeling enough pressure as it was.
So maybe MR wasn't looking to draw a crowd and didn't feel like flashing
that 5.9 in front of you guys like a real dick would.
Just my $0.02...
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Ouch!
climber
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Nov 28, 2005 - 11:56pm PT
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"aren't billygoats known for their stubborness by the way???..."
Known more for pissing on their beards.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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Nov 29, 2005 - 12:10am PT
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Dooood! I saw MR do an inedible mofo too!
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
boulder, co
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Nov 29, 2005 - 12:14am PT
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dave wrote: I'm just saying what I saw and heard with my own 2 ears and my own 4 eyes. I never said whether he did or did'nt or if I believed him or not, just saying it like it is and that I found it kind of peculiar.
Dave, why don't you call MR and ask to follow him around one day climbing. Should be a mute point from then on...
I know Michael and don't doubt him at all.
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