rap line on El Cap?


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Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Aw, Pshaw, you wouldn't even understand....
Jun 20, 2010 - 02:00am PT
Dude, Cavers are SO pale.

Ice climber
Ashland, Or
Jun 20, 2010 - 03:53am PT
PTPP says:
Most of us are appalled at how poorly your average Yosemite wall climber ascends a free-hanging fixed rope.

come one man, we've all seen you jug way slower then the average wall climber many times. ;)
thanks for explaining the system , it's pretty interesting.

did they let you rap down off Pacemaker?
nice 'send btw
Scott Cole

Trad climber
Sunny California
Jun 20, 2010 - 12:22pm PT
Many climbers a secretly cavers as well. We don't talk about it in polite company, but caving is every bit as demanding as climbing.

Swimming in ice cold water in the dark is almost as much fun as bivying under a waterfall in a storm, and crawling through a horizontal suqeeze chimney for half a mile is a great abdominal workout.

On your next trip to the Tetons, spend a rest day in the Ice/ Wind cave connection.


Boulder climber
Feb 12, 2018 - 07:42pm PT

Big Wall climber
Feb 12, 2018 - 07:59pm PT
I rappelled the Nose on December 30th, 2017 and it was a fun day outing. Having climbed El Cap over 30 times previously, I thought it would be a fun adventure, and it was!

I'll post up some photos soon.

Has anybody climbed and rappelled El Cap in 1 day?
Crazy Bat

Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
Feb 13, 2018 - 03:16am PT
There were actually three groups scheduled to do it in 2010. The first group were dweebs who were charging. They nearly had a rope tangle that would have given SAR fits. SAR wound up owning their ropes. The next group was scheduled for the following week and got a cease and desist order. Our group came in for the third week. We were just a group pooling funds and no one was charged. Luckily we got there early enough to work with the park service and our trip happened with one rope. I will be with a group coming to repeat the feat in July. LOL

Trad climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 06:05am PT
Levy posted:
I rappelled the Nose on December 30th, 2017 and it was a fun day outing.
Presumably, this was with a normal-length climbing rope and multiple stops - yes?

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 13, 2018 - 08:04am PT
Has anybody climbed and rappelled El Cap in 1 day?

Yes, when Shipoopi's and Hans did three el cap routes in a day they rapped west buttress or something.

Social climber
The internet
Feb 13, 2018 - 11:09am PT
Sweet video. Id take that over East Ledges any day.

Big Wall climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 01:03pm PT
Sula, Yes, we used two 60 Meter ropes and had an additional rope as a backup incase a rope got irretrievably stuck. We did something like 27 rappels. The act of committing over the lip and getting into the top of the Nose dihedrals was very exciting. The ends of our ropes were swinging out in space on the blunt, rounded buttress where the Central Scrutinizer comes in with some 3,000' of air below.

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 13, 2018 - 01:33pm PT
One regret I have is I never got to do any vertical caving. Those big potholes are something else.

It's a whole nother world down there underground.

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 13, 2018 - 03:15pm PT
And crawling through bat guano.

Trad climber
Feb 14, 2018 - 12:28am PT
In early high school rappelling was as much fun as the actual climbing. We would clip in from the haul loop and dive off bridges, etc.... I even got suspended for 3 days for rappelling off the catwalk of the school auditorium during a "restroom" pass. If at the time you showed us how to do that sort of stunt we would have been all in 110%. Now...not so much but looks RAD!

Nice video! I was looking for all the features but he was facing Middle a lot so maybe need to just go UP there to see for myself. ;-).


Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Feb 14, 2018 - 08:10am PT
Did a bit of caving and exploring in my youth in Tennessee, TAG country, some of the best caving in the world it turns out.

I moved west and climbing subsumed me. My old climbing and caving partner in TN kept at it though.

So on a visit he took me to a privately held cave (you need a key to get in). Lots of crawling in tight spaces, etc. I found, as suspected, that I'd developed claustrophobia in the intervening years. The prospect of getting stuck or hurt weighed on me. Still did some tight crawls but man did I breathe easier when I got out of the cold cold ground.

Now I'm like an ex-coal miner:

I ain't going down
I ain't going down
this is one coal miner
that's leaving this town


Social climber
The internet
Feb 14, 2018 - 08:50am PT
Years of climbing - I'm claustrophobic in my own living room. Fuk caving.

Feb 14, 2018 - 12:27pm PT
In 62 or 63 before I got into climbing I did some caving in NY, WV,IN, & VA. Never do it again. Craziest was a sump I pushed in NY. I would get free of the water just as it started filling the upper nostril which was pushing up against the rock ceiling. Frankly not sane.

Hellhole was fun I must admit however. So I migrated to something safer.
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