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Llatikcuf WA
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Brandon,
I am a long ways from being a math expert, but I've framed quite a few roofs. Looking at yer project I bet that hip winds up being out of the existing inside corner and moves toward steeper roof pitch. Looks like a head scratcher for sure.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Bastard hip,Math does work.
It really is all on a framing square.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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It's the most annoying tie-in ever. How are we going to make this work? You're correct in that the tie in point at the top of the hip will probably be outside of the corner.
I suck at math, and I'm still stuck thinking about this stuff.
Edit; Wilbeer, missed your post. Yeah, it's all in the square.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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One word: trigonometry. The easiest way is to determine the tie-in point.
Then you can figure the hip as a common. Of course the cheek cuts are not
going to be the same but that is simple when laid out in plan view. It
gets a little trickier with the jacks but agin if you just take the plane
of each side and work them as right triangles it is much simplified.
Have fun!
Edge, sweet scribe job! But what a PITA up there under that eave!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Brandon,Get your common rafters from working with heights ,frame your overhang [if you can,or at least mock it up,especially your fascia].
You should be able to get that hip in the corner above,It Will have to be off the outside corner[slightly] of your framed walls.
I hope that may help you.Cheers Wilbeer
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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I figured Reilly would get a hard-on over that scribe job...rj
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Jun 11, 2014 - 02:49pm PT
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Onto the next...
34' LVL with 24' DF rafters on one side, 20' spruce on the other side. Killer view to boot.
Framing with the pros, I feel inadequate. Good knowledge regardless. It's ok to be the low man on the pecking order sometimes. My mind is a sponge.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Jun 11, 2014 - 02:55pm PT
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Nothing like having a Lull around,aye?
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 11, 2014 - 06:08pm PT
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Nothing like having a Lull around,aye?
One of the reasons I left NH is because there were too many lulls in my work.
*rimshot
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Jun 11, 2014 - 06:22pm PT
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Yes,I believe the lulls are over,Edge.[hopefully]
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Jun 19, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
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Bump. What's everyone building?
I'm still on the same projects, so nothing much to share.
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Jun 19, 2014 - 04:45pm PT
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Brandon,
I just checked in on this thread, and noticed your question on a bed frame.
I'm involved with building a timber frame addition onto my house, but if I get a chance, I'll take a few pictures of a cherry bed I made about 30 years ago.
The headboard and footboard are both permanently glued together. All four post are 4" Cherry, not glued up, turned on a lathe. Each post is morticed for headboard and footboard. I used a Bridgeport Milling machine, ( which I still use), for the morticing.
The side rails are real heavy Cherry, about 2" thick X 8" deep. with hefty tennons on each end, which mortice into the post. I made custom bed bolts, about 1/2 dia. X 8" long, which are recessed into post, ( covered by those classic brass covers), The rails have 1" round holes, ( not thru holes), on the inside, which are fitted with steel plugs tapped to accept the 1/2 bolts.
The bed completely comes apart in minutes by simply tightening or loosening the four bolts with a socket wrench. It is also EXTREMELY rugged, and will last 100's of years. My bed is a Queen size, but obviously you can make it any size you want.
Rotate or zoom in on the pictures for more detail. Hope this helps.
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Jun 19, 2014 - 04:49pm PT
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Jun 19, 2014 - 04:54pm PT
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Jun 19, 2014 - 04:57pm PT
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 21, 2014 - 03:24pm PT
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Making a 34" wide x 52" long elliptical frame for a glass top coffee table. Last Saturday I planed the boards to thickness, then miter cut them to match the angles on my full size drawing. Each half of the eight glue lines was mortised 1 3/4" x 5/16" x 2" deep for loose tenons. Everything was dry fit then disassembled for glue up.
I glued up the whole mess with polyurethane glue (which I never use but seemed appropriate here) and clamped individual sections down to a dead flat MDF base covered with taut plastic sheeting. The joints were then lathered with glue and pushed together, with final clamping across the glue line courtesy of pinch dogs, an old timey but fabulously simple and effective device.
These are sunk in the waste wood that will be cut away, and develop tremendous pressure.
Today I popped off the clamps and dogs, then scraped off the glue squeeze out before sanding the frame flat. There was one small knot void on the underside, which I filled with fine sawdust from the shop vac sander hose, thin cyanoacrylate glue, accelerator, and a final sanding.
To complete the engineered top it will get veneered top and bottom with 1/16" thick plain sliced cherry veneer with the grain running perpendicular across the frame's glue lines. Bomber.
The top will then be sawn to shape inside and out (3" wide) and rabbited for a 1/4" glass insert. More pics to come, but I'm only working this one sporadically.
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 22, 2014 - 09:44am PT
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Completely out of the blue I got a message on my business facebook page this morning.
Hi Loran - I'm not sure if you might remember me but my husband Stewart and I bought a wonderful dining table in cherry from you some years back when we were living in Manhattan. I remember you bringing it up 62 stairs (no elevator). I still have and treasure the table. Stewart sadly died in 2003 and I moved last year from NYC down to Florida. I notice you too have moved from NH to Colorado. I'm sitting at the table as I write this. It's oval in shape with two fold down flaps.
Lizzie and her husband commissioned this table in 1989; 25 years ago. I have hard copy photos somewhere, but it was an elliptical top, drop leaf table with a Watco and spray lacquer finish. I recall several things about the job including damaging the finish before delivery and having to scrape off an entire coat of lacquer with a razor blade as well as carrying the table up to their apartment; a half inch larger in any dimension and it would not have fit up the stairway, period.
This was my first commissioned table and I built it in my first shop which I had set up in the basement of an apartment.
Kind of a trip getting this great message after a quarter century. It's a great reminder to take pride in your work and to build as though your work will last many lifetimes, as is evidenced by the plethora of early American originals still floating around New England and beyond.
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 28, 2014 - 04:59pm PT
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Veneering the coffee table top frame.
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