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P.Kingsbury
Trad climber
the jeep
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 23, 2010 - 04:40pm PT
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I was hoping that someone had any information about who stole over $1000 of offwidth gear from an offwidth roof project located down the road from the "Blue Gamma" wall in IC.
The route is located a pitch up and is a very serious invert difficult to steal gear off of. It has been projected by Bob Scarpelli, Brad Jackson, John Varco, and Mason Earl; without success.
Shanti and I have been projecting it over the last 8 weeks and were very close to sending. We went up there today to discover that all of the gear (minus the 4 big-bros?) were STOLEN!!!!!
Who ever took the 7 or 8 cams left a carin at the base as what I would assume as a big "F@ck you!". We are pretty crushed, as it was the majority of our offwidth gear and maybe 3-4 people knew where this route was located. It would have taken alot of work to get the gear off this project.
If anyone has ANY information about this there would be no questions asked, and a reward would be given.
Please don't flame this tread.
Thanks in advance,
Patrick
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Jingy
Social climber
Nowhere
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May 23, 2010 - 04:50pm PT
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Totally F*cked!!!
had to be one or two of the 3-4 you say knew where this place was.....
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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May 23, 2010 - 04:51pm PT
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OOOOPS!!
I might have to apologize.
Not deleting my poor post though.
You left expensive stuff laying around.
It got picked up.
Now your pissed?!?
Clean up after yourself.
You are saying that gear was left on the ground.
P.Kingsbury
Who ever took the 7 or 8 cams left a carin at the base as what I would assume as a big "F@ck you!". We are pretty crushed, as it was the majority of our offwidth gear and maybe 3-4 people knew where this route was located. It would have taken alot of work to get the gear off this project.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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May 23, 2010 - 05:01pm PT
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> You are saying that gear was left on the ground.
No, he said it would be very difficult to get the gear off of the project.
Unfortunately, there are a few people who can't resist unguarded gear, or gear they judge as abandoned, ugly, or "up for grabs" by their own rules. (I don't have any actual information on who it might have been, sorry).
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P.Kingsbury
Trad climber
the jeep
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2010 - 05:21pm PT
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The gear was in situ on the second pitch, a solid 5.13 offwidth ROOF. This route has crushed all who have tried, and has been attempted by leaving gear in situ on it in the past. It would be VERY difficult just to aid out the roof to steal the gear, which is what happened.
One must climb a (5.10) chimney first pitch just to access the second pitch. Who ever took the gear couldn't even do the blue collar (5.9+) above the last two Bros to the anchor and lowered from them! They also left a lower Bro as well, weird. We didn't leave the gear in a pile at the base!!! This isn't Super Crack Tucker. It is the only route on the formation.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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May 23, 2010 - 05:34pm PT
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Climbers are great.
Except the climber thieves...who SUCK!!!!!
Hope you get your stuff back bro.
B
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The Guy
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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May 23, 2010 - 05:42pm PT
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Karma...they'll get it and your gear will probably give it. I always assume that the people we need to worry about are the non-climbers. People who come across a bag and shoes next to a trail. They usually don't know what is going on. Especially if they don't know that people climb at that particular location. It's a sad day when we gotta worry about our own dirtbag climbing brothers.
Did you ask if maybe somoene else was projecting as well? Maybe they came along to start it and got pissed off that someone else was on it. Regardless, not cool and karma is real.
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P.Kingsbury
Trad climber
the jeep
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2010 - 05:51pm PT
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My friend Mason was working it last fall, but had a bum ankle this spring and was leaving it alone. We asked him for permission, and he was psyched that Pamela and I were trying it. Nobody else was working on it, or would really even want to. The creek was very busy during the beginning of our projecting it, but now the creek is empty. Maybe a dozen people total camping down here.
We are bummed and pissed. Not the optimal way to end 10 weeks in the desert.
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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May 23, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
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This is super wack. Im sorry some jerks would do this to other climbers. I thought we had more respect for each other than that. And to poach it from a new legend like Pamela, despicable.
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P.Kingsbury
Trad climber
the jeep
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
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Thanks Jeremy. (and everyone else) That means alot. You are right, who the f@ck would do this?
We are trying to figure out a game plan right now, and I really appreciate you offering to help in a time of need.
I have never heard of this happening down here in the creek, and it hurts to think that someone would pull this sh#t.
Patrick
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noshoesnoshirt
climber
Arkansas, I suppose
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May 23, 2010 - 06:16pm PT
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Pretty whack when you can positively ID the thieves as climbers.
You like to have faith in your tribe, but you also have to realize your tribe encompasses some total dicks.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 23, 2010 - 06:23pm PT
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That Bites, Patrick!
What a drag!
MF-ucker leave now, you have nothing to contribute here. You can just leave this, and all other, forums.
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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May 23, 2010 - 06:33pm PT
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just a thought... did you check the cairn for a note?
Super lame either way though, hope you get your gear back.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 23, 2010 - 07:16pm PT
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Sic Scarpelli on them.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 23, 2010 - 07:30pm PT
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I'll keep my eyes and ears open.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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May 23, 2010 - 07:59pm PT
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Pat and Shanti
That sucks, BIG TIME!!!!
I hope karma strikes fast and hard at the scumbag perps.
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Luke Malatesta
Big Wall climber
Moab UT
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May 23, 2010 - 08:42pm PT
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Pat/Pam.
Im sorry to hear about your gear. I will keep my ears peeled around town. Let me know if you need some wide stuff as I am heading westward in a couple of weeks and will not need some of it. Give me a call, you guys have my number. Thats F@!*ed that some one jacked it. It is a small town. Word will surface.
Luke
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 23, 2010 - 09:12pm PT
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I'd also mention it to Tracy and Gary @ Needles Oupost (they still there?) It'd be a long shot, but they might hear something.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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May 23, 2010 - 09:16pm PT
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Sorry to hear it Pat. Mason was just talking about that thing the other day. I'll keep an ear to the ground and an eye on the e-bay and whatnot.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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May 23, 2010 - 09:45pm PT
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This sucks at every level. Sorry to hear it.
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