Half Dome picture from some where around Turlock

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john hansen

climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 16, 2010 - 09:46pm PT

Trying to find that thread..

there were some directions to where it was taken from..

The next two weeks with all these storms backed up, there might be a break where you could catch it between the fronts ..with good light , in the afternoon. You know, if you just happen to be passing by.

Then again it might rain for the next two weeks straight.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jan 16, 2010 - 10:05pm PT
I couldn't find the thread, but I found this. It has the guys directions. What a great shot.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/trimmoos/3294080995/

Gobee

Trad climber
Los Angeles
Jan 16, 2010 - 10:17pm PT
Wow!
pc

climber
Jan 16, 2010 - 10:20pm PT
Wow! That is truly amazing. Nice find.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jan 16, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
There was some good stuff on that thread. I wish that I could find it.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Jan 16, 2010 - 10:24pm PT
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=804547
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jan 16, 2010 - 10:29pm PT
Hmm. I thought there was an older thread with more pics and discussion. Especially about whether it was genuine or not.
nita

Social climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Jan 16, 2010 - 10:35pm PT
Moosie..

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/804547/picutre_of_the_day_for_hump_day
wildone

climber
GHOST TOWN
Jan 16, 2010 - 10:37pm PT
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jan 16, 2010 - 10:44pm PT
Thanks Clint and Nita. I thought there was an older thread with more discussion. I might be misremembering, but I did think that I posted to it.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Jan 16, 2010 - 11:12pm PT
http://www.summitpost.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=43672
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Jan 16, 2010 - 11:31pm PT
Hall Road, .65 mile south of E. Keyes Rd. About 3.5 miles east of Denair, CA. and about 67.25 miles from Half Dome and in this image, shot at 400mm, the grain elevator is about 1.5 miles away.
Reilly

Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
Jan 16, 2010 - 11:39pm PT
I still say the perspective isn't right. Half Dome is too
tilted towards the viewer as it would look from above the valley
rim in a plane and not as it would look from the San Joaquin Valley
floor. There also doesn't appear to be adequate 'space' between the
grain silo and Half Dome. Nice job of 'shopping' IMHO.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jan 16, 2010 - 11:45pm PT
Not shopped. just a great lense.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yzavala/sets/72157614402790202/



OMGGG LOOK AT THIS ONE BELOW! SHOPPED!

http://www.elcap-pics.com/documents/ClimberPoster_001.pdf
aguacaliente

climber
Jan 17, 2010 - 12:20am PT
Because the angle of the view is so low, atmospheric refraction is probably significant. The top of Half Dome is about 8700 feet higher than the central valley and if the photographer is 67 miles away, the geometric elevation is 1.4 degrees. This is small enough that the seeing-over-the-horizon effect may contribute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction

I think this might be why the perspective on the Valley looks like it is from a higher position than we'd expect the photographer to be at.

It's nice work finding the location and getting a clear day. This would be a great application for an infrared photograph (less affected by haze).

I followed a couple of links and got to this HeyWhatsThat panorama website http://www.heywhatsthat.com/?view=SV0A99AI which is very interesting.
T H

climber
. . . not !
Jan 17, 2010 - 12:33am PT
With all due respect . . there are some gullible people on here .
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Jan 17, 2010 - 12:38am PT
Sometimes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!
:-)

I am certain such a photo is possible, because I have seen the lights in the central valley from the top of El Cap.
In Immoos' photo, it's clear a lot of El Cap is obscured by the intervening ridges, but we know Half Dome is above the Valley rim,
so we should be able to see pretty much all of the NW face, and this appears to be the case.
Because the distance of the shot is 67.25 miles from Half Dome,
the viewing angle is close to zero (or check arctan[(8800/5280)/67.25]) -
the angle is .025 radians = 1.42 degrees.
so the perspective is about the same as being level with the Valley rim,
or being on top of one of those intervening ridges.

from:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/trimmoos/3662612548/

" received another message concerning my Half Dome from Denair pic
informing me that it was not possible to see Half Dome from the central valley, therefore it was photoshopped...
What-everrrr. But it did get me looking at the image comments again and I clicked on brendon.m's link to www heywhatsthat com

Now I've done that before, but I had never before clicked the visibility cloak button.
The results are above and quite surprising. The top of Half Dome is theoretically visible from an incredibly large area.
Granted, from many places only the very top will be in view and difficult to see but I still find it fascinating.

If you live in the Central Valley anywhere in the red zone, get your binoculars,
telescopes or big telephoto camera lenses ready for the next clear day and catch a glimpse!"

And here's the map with the line of the shot -
areas in red are locations from which Half Dome is theoretically visible
(map not complete, because Mt. Diablo is not red).
(since I'm not the only one posting a huge photo):
safl

Trad climber
Wahoo, NE
Jan 17, 2010 - 07:42am PT
Something doesn't quite jive, somehow.
Hey, Whatev.
Srbphoto

Trad climber
Kennewick wa
Jan 17, 2010 - 07:56am PT
The lack of "adequate space" between the silo and HD is due to to using a 400mm lense. A longer lens compresses the space between objects.

Think of all the images of the foothills or Smokey Mountains where the mountains look stacked up on one another. If you were standing there it doesn't look that way. Slap a long telephoto on and viola!

The image does look a bit "off".

There is another photo from the top of Mt Diablo (about 125 miles away) that you can see Half Dome in an enlargement. I tried to find it but couldn't.
Wack

climber
Dazevue
Jan 17, 2010 - 07:58am PT
There is a shot of HD taken from Mt Hamilton, Lick Observatory that I have seen. We had the reverse view from the big sloping ledge below the Robbin's traverse on HD. There was a dense layer of clouds across the central valley with really good lighting on Mt Hamilton, similar to looking through a tunnel. The cloud cover provided an effect like shading your eyes with your hand in bright sun light.
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