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KM
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Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2009 - 09:25am PT
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>Jaybro wrote:
>I don't remember wo the other climber was but there is a
>covedr shot article in either an old Summit or off belay.
> I will pick it up next week when i'm at the ranch.
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I would be very interested in any information, references or scans. This would be very helpful thank you.
>What ever happened to the girl from the Eiger sanction?
>-Brenda Venus, last seen in 48hrs according to IMDB
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Presumably the equipment started to show its age and she had to move onto other areas of the arts. She seemed to be highly talented, publishing several books:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Venus
It must be fabulous for a woman to have her beauty immortalized in celluloid like that, however.
KM
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KM
Mountain climber
Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 04:37am PT
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>deuce4 wrote:
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>Funny, I have never heard of the name "Pioneer Woman". I have
> always thought of the five smaller spires behind the Totem
>Pole all as the Yei Bi Chei's (and have climbed the first
>ascent of two of them)
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http://www.mitteleuropa.t35.com/climbs.html#pioneerwoman
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KM
Mountain climber
Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 04:48am PT
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>Cameron Burns wrote:
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>Ooooohhh.
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>Steve, you know Kylie's sister....oh what the
>hell's her name?....is the big thing now.
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>BTW: I interviewed Eric on video regarding the
> Eiger Sanction (and other stuff) in October,
>but his memory has gone to sh#t, sadly.
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Any salient facts or anecdotes you care to quote I will include.
Did he mention where all the cast and crew stayed while they were filming in Monument Valley ? Did they all camp out like they did in "Lawrence of Arabia" or where they billeted here in and there at whatever Gasthof had space ?
>BTW, I've been egging him on to finish his
> autobiography.
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Use force, threats, bribery, flattery, pleading, nagging, anything.
"That which is not written down, might as well never have happened."
KM
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KM
Mountain climber
Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 05:10am PT
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ROOSTER ROCK:
http://www.mitteleuropa.t35.com/roosterrock.html
Can any one identify the crag that Clint Eastwood is climbing on in this scene ? It appears to be on the face of or at the base of the Mesa visible in another scene.
Is the axis of Rooster Rock visible in the frame, the long axis or does it run away from the camera ?
Much thanks your helps.
KM
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KM
Mountain climber
Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 09:07am PT
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Any one recognize the location of the airfield and the heading of the aircraft and the Ford Bronco ?
http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/eiger_sanction_airfield.html
The color of the earth and the terrain point to the same area.
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rick d
climber
ol pueblo, az
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Dec 19, 2009 - 09:30am PT
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kurt-
the landing strip is off the highway northeast of stagecoach etc, but the bronco driving scenes are even closer to the mexican hat area (although stagecoach etc are still visible in the backdrop).
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KM
Mountain climber
Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 03:20am PT
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>rick d wrote:
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>kurt-
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>the landing strip is off the highway northeast of stagecoach
>etc, but the bronco driving scenes are even closer to the
> mexican hat area (although stagecoach etc are still visible
>in the backdrop).
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OK - I was beginning to suspect that the scene with the Bronco charging the Ford Thunderbird was outside the area I had been looking (Totem Pole, Merricks Butte, etc).
So the scene where the Bronco spins around and charges the Thunderbird is over in the Mexican Hat / Stagecoach area ?
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rick d
climber
ol pueblo, az
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Dec 20, 2009 - 09:25am PT
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A on the mapping software shows the existing airstrip (2004 software) and B is the little "town" 3.5 miles West South West of Mexican Hat, Utah where dirt roads dump onto highway 163. The distance from airstrip (and plane) to Stagecoach is closer than where the Ford Bronco drives onto the pavement. I believe that one of those dirt roads is the location of the truck filming.
Also, the Hollywood Chimney (Bjornstad, Desert Rock, pg 401, Chockstone press 1988) is really obvious in the notch that leads to Hospital. There is an outstanding thin hands crack through a bulge that Wyrick/Bjornstad et al did not do just left of the Hollywood Chim.
hope that helps
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KM
Mountain climber
Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2009 - 11:30am PT
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>rick d wrote:
>A on the mapping software shows the existing airstrip (2004 software)
>and B is the little "town" 3.5 miles West South West of Mexican Hat,
>Utah where dirt roads dump onto highway 163. The distance from
>airstrip (and plane) to Stagecoach is closer than where the Ford
> Bronco drives onto the pavement. I believe that one of those
>dirt roads is the location of the truck filming.
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A Thousand Thanks oh Noble One. And a Blessing on all your Descendants.
I have just spent a couple of man-days straight looking at yet more photographs of Monument Valley (mainly the Stagecoach area) and have just re-visited the airfield photographs and spotted the Stagecoach this morning. I just logged into Supertopo now to find your immensely helpful supertopo.
http://mittleuropa.t35.com/eiger_sanction_airfield.html#stagecoach
http://mittleuropa.t35.com/es_monument_valley_maps.html#stagecoach120
If I ever see another photograph of Monument Valley again ...
There was no stop sign at the exit from Gouldings in 1975, so it is not the exit from Gouldings, so likely you are dead-on about the location of the Bronco turning right.
I may not be able to work out exactly which intersection it was until I re-visit. But I will keep on asking folk who live and work in the area.
It looks like I have found the pilot who flew the aircraft into the airfield in the movie.
Once I identify three points in the Butte/Mesa area around Stagecoach in the frame from the Movie, I will be able to confirm by triangulation from a satellite topo. Comparison with the photograph I have from US163, which is slightly further South, indicates you are in exactly the correct position.
>Also, the Hollywood Chimney (Bjornstad, Desert Rock, pg 401,
> Chockstone press 1988) is really obvious in the notch that
> leads to Hospital. There is an outstanding thin hands crack
> through a bulge that Wyrick/Bjornstad et al did not do just
>left of the Hollywood Chim.
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OK I will try and piece all this together.
I had to use pilots' photographs of the approach to Goulding's Airfield UT25 to try and perform some elimination and noticed that the Mesa rising behind looked promising.
The bottom line is there is far more work than I realized. That's good because I hate it when I run out of things to hunt down. I was beginning to think that another visit was necessary (now that I am sure that all the targets are in a 10mile by 10mile square) in order to perform some elimination.
I keep updating the
http://mittleuropa.t35.com/climbs.html
page with whatever new information I find or deduce.
Thanks again,
Kurt
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Camster (Rhymes with Hamster)
Social climber
CO
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Dec 22, 2009 - 11:48pm PT
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KM:
//Any salient facts or anecdotes you care to quote I will include.
Did he mention where all the cast and crew stayed while they were filming in Monument Valley ? Did they all camp out like they did in "Lawrence of Arabia" or where they billeted here in and there at whatever Gasthof had space ?//
I need to go back, fully armed, with my notes and have Eric get his out. He couldn't remember sh*t. But I'll keep the interest in the Eiger Sanction in mind.
//Use force, threats, bribery, flattery, pleading, nagging, anything.
"That which is not written down, might as well never have happened."
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Yeah, good thinking. I'll do what I can.
Camster
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Gaar Lausman
Trad climber
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Dec 24, 2009 - 03:13pm PT
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I've spent the past 3 years in Zion, and I can say with about 90% accuracy that the first 2 pictures are from the front of the lodge looking right towards employee canyon. I drew an arrow pointing towards emp. canyon in one pic.
The 3rd picture suggests, with the river below, the no longer existant pool, that it was taken from the Spearhead, or Lady Mtn. which are both directly accross from the lodge; as per the route I have no idea
Gaar
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Allen Hill
Social climber
CO.
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Dec 24, 2009 - 03:40pm PT
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Allen Hill
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CO.
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Dec 24, 2009 - 03:42pm PT
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Dec 28, 2009 - 01:44pm PT
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Allen, were you there for that shoot? Cool pic of Eastwood and Dougal.
Nope, you'd have been too young methinks.
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KM
Mountain climber
Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2009 - 07:00am PT
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Gaar - Thanks for your help. I have not received any information from any one who knows Zion yet and Zion Lodge have been a bit light in terms of help.
http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/zion_lodge.html
>I've spent the past 3 years in Zion, and I can say with about 90%
> accuracy that the first 2 pictures are from the front of the lodge
> looking right towards employee canyon. I drew an arrow pointing
> towards emp. canyon in one pic.
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>The 3rd picture suggests, with the river below, the no longer
> existant pool, that it was taken from the Spearhead, or Lady
> Mtn. which are both directly accross from the lodge; as per
>the route I have no idea
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>Gaar
I have done some more work on the Zion Canyon and Zion Lodge locations.
I concur with you: The two/three frames with 'canyon' in the background, taken during the Eastwood/Bodyguard fight scene are non-river side, the East side. I cannot find any photographs of that side (in either the movie) or anywhere else and Zion Lodge are a on the light side with help offered so far.
http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/files/es_eiger_sanction_clint_eastwood_frame_20091204154902.jpg
http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/files/es_eiger_sanction_clint_eastwood_frame_20091209184358.jpg
On the river-side/West the key is that frame were Eastwood is climbing above the Zion Lodge, which come into view the moment Eastwood puts his elbow over the top of the lip of the rock. Without this frame, we would be stuck for an accurate fix on the swimming pool because it was demolished in the Eighties.
http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/files/es_eiger_sanction_clint_eastwood_frame_20091228084219.jpg
I have been through the frames from the movie and all the photographs I have and I have pieced together a montage using frames from the movie of what the Swimming Pool area must have looked like. Then, matched it to a position on a satellite image using that one frame from the movie in which the full lodge appears, when Eastwood and Kennedy are climbing above it.
http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/filmlocations_eiger_sanction.html#swimmingpool
Looking North
[url=" http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/files/es_eiger_sanction_clint_eastwood_frame_20091208183135.jpg"]
http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/files/es_eiger_sanction_clint_eastwood_frame_20091208183135.jpg[/url]
Looking South
http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/files/es_eiger_sanction_clint_eastwood_frame_20091209173507.jpg
Looking West/River side
[url="http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/files/es_eiger_sanction_clint_eastwood_frame_20091209184222.jpg"]http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/files/es_eiger_sanction_clint_eastwood_frame_20091209184222.jpg
[/url]
I am trying to work out where the Ford Thunderbird is parked in the above frame. The tourist trains to left of frame suggest that it is in the north parking lot, where the tourist buses halt now. However, this assumes that there have been no changes since that time. Assumptions are dangerous to use when location hunting. I should be able to work it out from the pattern of vehicles parked in the background.
http://mitteleuropa.t35.com/files/es_eiger_sanction_clint_eastwood_frame_20091208183816.jpg
Do you have any thoughts on this one ? If I can work out what building they are in front of, then I can determine the location.
At the moment, I think the Ford Thunderbird is parked in front of the Lodge, and those vehicles parked in the background are in what was the Swimming Pool parking area.
If doubt creeps in on the Swimming Pool, I will obtain some of NASA's satellite imagery from the early Seventies (it is on 70mm roll film at the Library of Congress) and that should settle any question.
Thank again all.
-Kurt
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Gaar Lausman
Trad climber
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Dec 30, 2009 - 04:55pm PT
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The links are not working for me...Try and post a hard pic in this forum.
I can probably tell you where they are just need to see it.
Feel free to emial me with any more questions in requards to zion.
mynameisgaar@yahoo.com
Gaar
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KM
Mountain climber
Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2011 - 05:19pm PT
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http://www.mitteleuropa.t35.com/filmlocations_eiger_sanction.html#trainingclimb
Dear Sirs
Can you help me: I am trying to identify all the climbs in "The Eiger Sanction". Most are known now but there is a large chimney, probably two large chimneys which I cannot identify. I think one is in Zion Canyon and the second in Monument Valley. If I cannot identify them here then I will have to wait until I am on foot in Zion Canyon and Monument Valley.
There is a table showing each stage of the Training Climb sequence, followed by frames from the movie showing the chimneys I cannot identify.
If you have any idea where those Chimneys might be, then even a good guess as to the area would narrow down my area of search and the amount of walking I have to do.
With thanks,
Kurt
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KM
Mountain climber
Milan
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
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Here are the images:
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SuperTopo on the Web
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Let us know!