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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 05:56am PT
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This should be better/cooler (temp) than the last! The date is set: March 19, 20, 21, 2010 up at Mt. Woodson. Come one, come all, young and old, local and far off. Yet, also, looking for those that attended the last shindig in '07 and those that attended the contest in 1986 and 1990! This should be a historic event for Woodson's history and a chance for the young and old to come together and enjoy what we all can't seem to get enough of! Plans include: guest appearances, both from the past and present, product giveaways and booths, along with post climb slideshows and party over a three day weekend!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 06:03am PT
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...and the list continues to grow:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Brad aka Beehay
3. Porkchop_express
4. Bob aka BVB
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X aka Mr. Woodson
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
12. F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37-38 Sonja aka s.d & Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. cont on next pg.------->
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immanti
climber
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Dec 16, 2009 - 08:19am PT
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illusiondweller, if that was just a teaser I can't imagine what awaits. It sounds like it will be a lot of fun.
Hey Ron, I should be so lucky. We'll see, but thanks for the kind offer my friend!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 02:46pm PT
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should I add u to the list immanti or ?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:05pm PT
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what was wrong with the old thread?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 03:16pm PT
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Nothing munge just up too late and made the decision to correct the title and add some more info to the description. Mr. Woodson turned out to be pretty funny after all!
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:47pm PT
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Count me in, as long as nothing gets in the way at the last minute. Sounds awesome! Any excuse to get down there!
-Nick
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Dec 16, 2009 - 04:36pm PT
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aye, I know late nights.
Salad ripping it up
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 05:10pm PT
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s.d.
climber
CA
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Dec 16, 2009 - 05:14pm PT
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Me too! Me 'n Nick (gonzo chemist) will be there. - Sonja
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 16, 2009 - 05:22pm PT
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this thread need more pics. here's a face-melting claw-your-eyes-out nightmare flashback to the 80's lycrafest:
lie detector
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 16, 2009 - 05:26pm PT
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the hand-foot match move on the south face of painted boulder:
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 05:27pm PT
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Bob, grab the photo of Brad with his 1990 contest shirt on and post it for me back up there with your liedector photo...would you?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 05:36pm PT
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Ron Kauk at the '86 contest on Lie Detector, 5.12 HARD!
Ron on A Nightmare On Elmstreet, 1986 (note the entrant number on his arm).
A 24 year old, your's truely, finishing up on Eric's Face on Robbin's Boulder, 1986 contest
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 16, 2009 - 05:39pm PT
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no way illusiondweller. if i have to look at one more photo of brad, with his pasty skin, chicken-wing armflaps, saggy moobs, and dorian gray wrinkles, i'm gonna stroke out.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 05:40pm PT
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Look closely and you can spot Tom Lindner looking at the camera, in his gray, down jacket and black leotards below and diagonally left of the white paint streak on Painted Boulder. Myself, next to Tom's right arm, in a blue jacket and pinkish baggy pants with Ken Klis to my right. I'm sure you all can pick out somebody that you recognize!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 06:02pm PT
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Hey Bob, you can call me Gary. You probably don't remember me for I was just a tag along wishing I was as GUD as you guys back then. Now that I think back then, I remember running into Mike Paul at that Chimney Rock up there off the road to the right, before Big Grunt. He was working the problem down below, up the smooth arete on that boulder (11b) when I showed up and gave him some verbal encouragement. He popped off at that point, lowered to the ground and put his index finger in my chest and exclaimed, "You're next!" in which I obliged and got spanked as well. Like I didn't have a problem with pride! Got me where I am today and you wouldn't want to be there!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 09:08pm PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Brad aka Beehay
3. Porkchop_express
4. Bob aka BVB
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X aka Mr. Woodson
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
12. F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37-38 Sonja aka s.d & Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immant
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. cont.------------------->
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Dec 16, 2009 - 09:21pm PT
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holy sh#t now that ive been pic'd on this thread... guess i mite have to put the skateboard aside and start training.
altho that road mite be a fun ride!!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 16, 2009 - 09:34pm PT
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longboard THAT pothole-ridden black ribbon of doom??
yer gonna die, jeff!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 09:39pm PT
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salad...drop me an email. Need to run something by you.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2009 - 09:41pm PT
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Bob, how's your art skills? We need someone to start a tshirt design...know anyone?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 16, 2009 - 09:46pm PT
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Make sure most of those T's are XL, I might need two.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 16, 2009 - 09:59pm PT
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Illusiondweller, did ya get my email on yer hotmail account? Hope to hear back from you.
Peace
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Dec 16, 2009 - 10:58pm PT
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bob - mite be safer than me attempting problems at woodson given my lack of climbing over the last several years..
gary - email sent. call ne time.
if yer makin shirts - some of those drawings of bob's from back when are sick!!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 17, 2009 - 12:02am PT
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robbin's crack
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 17, 2009 - 12:05am PT
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alcoa
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 17, 2009 - 12:07am PT
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the crew, all up on it back in tha muthafukkin' day. woodson OG's, yo.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 17, 2009 - 12:24am PT
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"no way illusiondweller. if i have to look at one more photo of brad, with his pasty skin, chicken-wing armflaps, saggy moobs, and dorian gray wrinkles, i'm gonna stroke out." BVB
This is gettin' good...
If "moobs" = man boobs, would that be something like this?...
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Top of the 5.2-5.12 Boulder
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Dec 17, 2009 - 12:28am PT
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Well, it WAS gettin' good.
Whoa.
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा
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Dec 17, 2009 - 12:38am PT
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bvb is making a very compelling case to kick out the jams in March.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2009 - 01:50am PT
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Bump
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Dec 17, 2009 - 02:27am PT
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anyone still have this?
no, not the rat tail that is apparently hanging in his office smelling, um, not so good... but the guide?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Dec 17, 2009 - 02:30am PT
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hard core local Salad back in the day before turning pro long board skater
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Strider
Trad climber
one of god's mountain temples....
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Dec 17, 2009 - 06:37am PT
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I am in for a good climbing shindig if the stars all align correctly for me. Haven't made it to Woodson yet and have heard great things about it.
Hopefully see you guys there...
-n
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2009 - 07:00am PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Brad aka Beehay
3. Porkchop_express
4. Bob aka BVB
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X aka Mr. Woodson
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
12. F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37-38 Sonja aka s.d & Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immant
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Strider
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2009 - 04:25am PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Brad aka Beehay
3. Porkchop_express
4. Bob aka BVB
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X aka Mr. Woodson
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37-38 Nick & Sonja aka s.d & Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Powell
49.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 18, 2009 - 10:04am PT
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Come on guys, let's get some more sign ups for this.....it will be another event NOT TO MISS! Gary has got some coool ideas on this and it is going to be another climber event to attend. Loads of fun, lots of friends and tons of great bouldering!
Bumping for Gary(illusiondweller)
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2009 - 02:04pm PT
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Thanks for the offer Cragman. I don't see an email assoc with your username when I click on it. Mine is listed so drop me an email and we'll talk some more.
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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Dec 18, 2009 - 03:40pm PT
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Alright, Ron. It's time for that drink. I'm in.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 18, 2009 - 04:05pm PT
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bolton, YER GONNA DIE!!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 18, 2009 - 05:33pm PT
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Yer on Bolton! We keep talking about it...should have come and got you this last summer in TM when Shipoopi showed up at my site....there was some booze going that night! I'll bring "something" to Woodson...will be a good "excuse" when I can't do any problems! Anyone else can tip back with us too! It'll be funnnnn!
Peace
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 19, 2009 - 01:16am PT
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jaws
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Mimi
climber
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Dec 19, 2009 - 02:56am PT
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Schweeeeeetttt!
Can't wait to cranken'!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 19, 2009 - 03:00am PT
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40 odd is plenty fer a party.....
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Mimi
climber
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Dec 19, 2009 - 03:08am PT
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Scary party!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 05:12am PT
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That has to be the best photo of Jaws that I've seen in all the years I've been on Woodson! That's awsome! Where'd you dig that one up and when was it taken?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 05:33am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 05:39am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 05:44am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 06:00am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 06:04am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 19, 2009 - 08:40am PT
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bump
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Dec 19, 2009 - 11:47am PT
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My desire to be there is great...my uncertainty about the possibility is also great. If there's any way to pull it off, I'll be there, too. Sounds like a blast!
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Dimes
Social climber
Living in the past.
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Dec 19, 2009 - 03:51pm PT
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O.K. count me in and I'll drag Henny down for the entertainment value. Gary, can we get the gate open to get our electric "scooter" chairs through for the drive up? If not maybe some people can help us lift them over-hope so. Got my sights set on Deport Jonny, 10a on the Outside, Lemon Chiffon and then warm down on Lie Detector.
Powell
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 19, 2009 - 04:19pm PT
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Cool Kevin, will be good to see you and Henny, bring yer camera(again). Uh illusiondweller says he's gonna have a handicap spot up front for me, yer welcome to share a ride in the "handicap vehicle" with me, maybe some of the young ens can push us up the road in our chairs. This is shaping up to be another great reunion, I'm soon to contact all the 70's and 80's group to join in(oh no, not another event to organize!)we should be strong in numbers and come from great distances, this will be FUN! We're working on making it an event not to miss.
Peace
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 19, 2009 - 09:37pm PT
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That's Paul Schwietzer (sp?) on Jaws. Where's he now?
Watusi never had that much hair.
Dimes, us Mtn Bike types can build a ramp over the gate, so's you old guys can launch the sucka'...
BH
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 01:08am PT
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ooops!....kinda let the thread fall down on the list...sorry!
The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Brad aka Beehay
3. Porkchop_express
4. Bob aka BVB
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X aka Mr. Woodson
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37-38 Nick & Sonja aka s.d & Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. ? Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Powell
49. Kevin
50. Henny
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 01:13am PT
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Don't worry Dimes...that gate is permanently open now...all those locks have disappeared and no longer in use. That hill will put a load on those batteries though, but it'll be a nice coast down!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 20, 2009 - 01:15am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 01:17am PT
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That's classic Bob...sentimental a bit, sniff, sniff. Omg!...that Kinnaloa chalk bag!...I had that bag for the longest time, up and till I left it in the bathroom at Santee Boulders hanging on the hook inside the stall while I was takin' care of business back in '07! The names of these guys again, Bob? I recall the faces but that's it.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 20, 2009 - 01:17am PT
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 20, 2009 - 01:20am PT
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the posse, circa 1968.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 01:25am PT
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'68 or 86? That gear looks pretty current to be '68...no?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 01:32am PT
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What problem is "Deport Jonny" that Dimes mentioned?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 01:40am PT
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This Paul Schweitzer Brad?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 01:45am PT
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Unless this is Schweitzer too...I've got it listed as Mike Paul on rc.com Brad. When I saw the shorts, no shirt and hair I thought of this picture. Same person?
Hey Brad, this photo even has an id as pauljaws.jpg and checkout the chalkbag, unless, again, this is Schweitzer in both photo's...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 20, 2009 - 01:55am PT
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grand central station
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 20, 2009 - 01:59am PT
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big horn
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 20, 2009 - 02:01am PT
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the cave
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 20, 2009 - 02:09am PT
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some random crack
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 20, 2009 - 02:14am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 04:40pm PT
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Bump
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 20, 2009 - 04:43pm PT
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Ed, cue the video of Russ telling the story of Jaws and the 'bowling ball twins'
Actually, save it till the time is right, but this has made me think of that.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 20, 2009 - 05:09pm PT
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Van Belle that last shot....is the guy bouldering that, or is there a rope involved???? High freeeking ball problem, not to mention the size of his balls if he is bouldering! Look forward to meeting you there..of course you WILL be there!
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 05:34pm PT
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Ron...go to rockclimbing.com under Woodson and see the series of shots of "that guy" aka Rick Piggot, leading Phd. In a nutshell, that picture was taken just before Rick to the 40 footer, ripping the pieces below him and grounded with Lydia Pankiher aka "The Pocket Russian", belaying. Astonishingly, Rick walked away from this! He returned later to that high-point and placed a bolt(s) on hooks to protect the upper section, crazy!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 05:38pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Brad aka Beehay
3. Porkchop_express
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X aka Mr. Woodson
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. ? Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Powell
49. Kevin
50. Darrell aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 06:57pm PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 09:51pm PT
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 20, 2009 - 10:09pm PT
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I believe that "Deport Jonny" is also known as "Johnny Go Home". Either way the reference is directed at that Brit Woodward. Personally, I prefer the Deport Jonny name. Following is a picture of the problem (just left of the tree). I think it's just across the road and slightly downhill from some bolted faces and an OW called Big Grunt? Eppy's B-day would be on the other side of the boulder.
Maybe the locals can set the record straight on what the problem is currently called?
BTW - How often does the Woodward problem on the left arete of the TV Screen get done?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 20, 2009 - 10:13pm PT
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I kinda like Deport Jonny, don't think they can deport him anymore, would be good to get him out for the event, think I'll give 'im a call, he might want some warm weather by March.
Peace
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Dec 20, 2009 - 10:33pm PT
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Better put me down too......but what if I can't make it up the hill to the climbs?......
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 20, 2009 - 11:08pm PT
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yeah todd, i'm kinda worried about getting spent on that hike up. used to pretty much run to the top nonstop and then fire off problems on the way down, but i'm woefully out of shape right now.
BTW - How often does the Woodward problem on the left arete of the TV Screen get done?
pretty much never, darrel. i've never seen chalk on it, ever. i think most folks don't even know it's there.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 11:24pm PT
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I never knew Deport Jonny existed...imagine that. I still share the story of Woodward estabisjing the Woodward Arete on the TV Screen boulder. I've never seen chalk on it nor seen anyone try it since 1981 when I started climbing. It looks impossible to start.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2009 - 11:45pm PT
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Hey Bob, I thought you were perpetually swole?
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s.d.
climber
CA
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Dec 20, 2009 - 11:52pm PT
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Woodson bump!
I went out to Woodson last Thursday with Brad (aka Gobi) and today with Nick (aka gonzo chemist). Perfect weather was to be had on both days and there was no better time to get honed on some of the finest cracks in the area. We climbed classics Crucible, Jaws, Bat crack, Razor's edge among others and vow to return to complete Seminar wall and Right Long's crack.
Sonja
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 21, 2009 - 12:01am PT
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A quick note - Woodward spells his first name Jonny. No 'h' in it. Brits - always gotta be different.
Edit: Swole is fitting. I have a suspicion that all this talk of being out of shape and the likes is just people getting a head start on jockying their sandbags into position.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 12:38am PT
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s.d., Nick, Brad...hope you are out spreading the word on this shindig to all the younger generation too! As much as us "back in the day" guys want it to be about us, it's really not, but it's about you, our kids really, and watching the X-Gen take what we established to the next level. I haven't revealed my full vision for this gig yet but maybe now is the time since I've seen your motivating photos and realize now who I am talking to.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 01:23am PT
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climber
socal
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Dec 21, 2009 - 02:08am PT
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If anyone is free this week and wants to play on Woodson... I'm itchin'
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 02:41am PT
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blr...I'm free Tues, Thurs, and possibly Saturday. I'm out of Spring Valley. Drop me an email by clicking on my username. I'm ready!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 02:48am PT
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Hey Nick...looks like you're standing on the "Captains Chair" on The Cave problem. Eliminate that from the route completely and you'll have a more sustained and flowing line without taking the rest!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 02:55am PT
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Darrel "Henny" aka Darrell Hensel?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 04:49am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 04:50am PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Brad aka Beehay
3. Porkchop_express
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X aka Mr. Woodson
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. ? Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Powell
49. Kevin
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 21, 2009 - 08:50am PT
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Hey Riley, let's go do some Wydes!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 21, 2009 - 09:43am PT
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Yep, Henny is Hensel
Peace
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Dec 21, 2009 - 01:15pm PT
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I tried the center problem on the TV screen recently. Tried being the key word. I couldn't touch the left side.
I think Dan Beall has done "Move Over Junior" on the Seminar Wall.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 21, 2009 - 01:20pm PT
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center problem on the TV screen
the working title for this problem was "emergency broadcast system" if i recall correctly. did anybody ever do it?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 21, 2009 - 02:35pm PT
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Ah yes, the Emergency Broadcast System. I know a couple of guys that have tried it recently. I don't know of anyone who has done it, but then I'm not the one to ask. As much as I would like to be a Woodson local I can't and never could claim that.
I can still see KP waving desperately at the top as he departed, literally only inches away. Too bad he's a one shot kind of guy. That problem was all but done if he'd kept it together for one more move.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 21, 2009 - 04:03pm PT
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if that problem was at roubidoux and you guys had the opportunity to work it and wire it, you'da been hucking laps in tennies.
just sayin'.
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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Dec 21, 2009 - 04:54pm PT
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I'll try to spread the word about this thing to more of the younger crowd if you'd like them to join Illusiondweller. Elliot, yes DB has done Move Over Junior. It's a cool route. I tried it once by headlamp, but there was one move I couldn't get. I'm not sure how much work it would take. It's HARD.
Josh
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 21, 2009 - 05:08pm PT
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Out of the loop and missed this Thread. Thanks Jaybro for bringing it to my attention. Even tho we were pre 1986 Woodson, any of our old and my new friends are welcome to camp out at Casa Leichtfuss....just email me.
Joyeux Noel, lynne
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 06:03pm PT
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"working title" hmmmmm...I've worked this as well and always wanted to call it Vertical Hold if (key word) I ever did succeed! Probably not though for I'm not consistent enough and this was pre Dan's gym in Mira Mesa! An idea for that someone that ticks it.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 08:51pm PT
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Spread the word Josh and have them come to this site to put their name on the list...thanks.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 21, 2009 - 09:48pm PT
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Put Leichtfuss on the list, she'll be there for sure, her husband Dan was a Woodson regular and could he crank like no one else!
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 11:39pm PT
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Choo, choo!
You know, if you stare at Bob's face long enough, it almost appears if his head is on backwards...or is it attached to his chest?! Am I the only one?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 11:47pm PT
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"One of my first times soloing it from when I was 15 in '75. Cheers, MP."
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 21, 2009 - 11:51pm PT
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I'll cogitate, Riley, but for now, do inverted sittups.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2009 - 11:51pm PT
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I commented on this photo on rc.com:
"Hey Mike...it looks like you're finger-stacking above the hand jam pocket just below. Please don't tell me you did that just to make it a bit harder! Then again, it wouldn't surprise me... darn kids!"
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 22, 2009 - 12:07am PT
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Mike Paul YA GOTTA COME DOWN FOR THIS ONE!!!!! You can hang at my place bro, it would be great to see you and spend some time with you. I'm remembering the times at the "ranch" in Del Mar! Remember them??????
Merry Christmas!
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2009 - 12:57am PT
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Dec 22, 2009 - 01:15am PT
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Wow kind of cool trippy photo comparison! Back in the day I had a different sequence but BVB always had his... We both got up and ran to the next as this was always our warm-up...Bob will remember our "Big Wednesday" (we was just kids back then, in Bob's dad's car and cruisin' the rads!)
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Dec 22, 2009 - 01:22am PT
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Hi as well Ron G!...I'm going to really try to be there this time as I think the warranty is up on my poor ass frame. It would be such an honor to vidy all your mugs once agin...
edit: Had to comment on how svelte B-Hey is looking in that shot above...Looks like "Stairway..." Even after he snubbed me with his P. Schweizer shot comment..."Watusi never had that much hair..." I did once...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 22, 2009 - 01:37am PT
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I remember your hair Watusi :D I'll vouch for you. :D
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Dec 22, 2009 - 03:46am PT
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Not really that much to remember Lynnie, but, Thanx:):)
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 22, 2009 - 08:40am PT
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Yeah Mike I recognized that dome anywhere. I would be really nice to have you down for the event, Gary has some cool things going and he's trying to get old school and new school there.....a great idea to blend the two. That comment earlier about being outa shape...well I WON'T be able to walk the road in one haul, let alone do the problems we use to do, but it'll be be fun just the same. We NEED to be there, if just to rip off all of Shawns problems!
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2009 - 09:28am PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Brad aka Beehay
3. Porkchop_express
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. ? Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Powell
49. Kevin
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (ClimbinCalifornia.com)
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2009 - 09:38am PT
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 22, 2009 - 09:51am PT
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So illusiondweller,
As the date gets closer email me and I'll do what I can to help. I can put up some out of towners at my casa especially if they don't mind camping in the yard or grove. It sounds totally fun, especially getting so many groups together.
I spent many, many afternoons and evenings with Dan after work traipsing around there. I regret being so terrified of heights back then. How I wish now I would have all that experience behind me. Oh, well...I have today. :D Peace, lynne
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2009 - 10:30am PT
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Thanks for your help Lynne, I'm Gary down in Spring Valley, might be quicker for ya than illusiondweller. Drop me an email as well for I've tried leaving an email through this site before yet no response. Be sure and check your junkmail. Thanks.
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pyrosis
Trad climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Dec 22, 2009 - 10:37am PT
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I'm in! Can't wait. Haven't climbed at Woodson since the late 90's. :)
-Tavis
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 22, 2009 - 08:03pm PT
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OK, somebody inspire me by posting up some more pictures of the Lie Detector. Always did like that problem. I think there was one of bvb soloing (dang) it earlier, but I could use more. (pleeease, no more lycra! My eyes are still hurting from that - kinda makes it hard to see the problem.)
Places like Rubidoux have nothing, zero, zilch in comparison to Woodson for the cracks. THAT is one of the true beauties of Woodson, the wide variety of problem types. Not to mention the quantity and boulder size ranges, as in short problems, highballs, topropes, and even possible leads.
How much new stuff is being done there nowadays? There is just so much potential. Wish I lived close enough to hit the place reguarly, I'd be trying to ferret out new stuff like a psycho. Nothing like new problems to raise the motivation level.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 12:05am PT
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Darrell,
Now, I can't speak for those who HAVE put up new stuff up there, but, I will occasionally hear and see photo's of new problems mostly shorter and with sit-starts from the "pad people") on Woodson proper, and will see new chalk on established boulders. Some are cool, new lines, others are contrived, ie; lines squeezing in between others. For the most part, the established lines still recycle newcomers and in my case, keep me returning to them over twenty eight years later! There are so many problems that I haven't done or will probably ever do that it's a lifetime place for me. There have been other areas of Mount Woodson that have been explored with new bouldering areas photographed and problems established. The southwest ridge of the peak south of Woodson, where the Mt. Everest boulder and K2 are, is currently being slowly developed and established, including trails, by a friend of mine. Even with this, you are right, there is so much more to be found and done!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 12:23am PT
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As far as Lie Detector, honestly, I don't think there are too many photo's out there for it doesn't see too many repeats! The best I can do is this photo of Steve Belford Tr'ing the upper section back in the day, which we and others would popularly do by rapping down into the bowl, then climb the classic 5.10 finger crack (note: today, the top of this crack is frequently greased out by bat guano!).
Another of Ron Kauk during the '86 contest...
This is just hearsay but I remember hearing the story of Rick Piggot who was going to solo the line with a photographer present to document the feat. But, on the day of the ascent, the photographer didn't show...so Rick soloed it anyway, imagine that.
There were times when Rick would show up on climbs that we were already at, with a TR already established, suiting up, etc. Rick would have his Walkman on his hip with the Scorpions screaming, "Rock You Like a Hurricane" out his earphones, so loud that we could rock out as well. He would then methodically walk up, grab the rope and look back at us without saying a word, an obvious gesture to hold the rope off to the side and out of the way for him. After completing his chalking ritual, then leaning his head back to shake his long naturally kinky mane back out of the way, he would silently proceed to move up the route and blow us away! It was beautiful yet nerve-wracking watching Rick do this. As Troy Wold out of Ramona put it, "Rick is the Master!"
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 12:49am PT
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Another funny story...
As a youngster in my early twenties, I recruited a, basically, non-climber friend of mine to belay me while I aided the bottom (A1) then lead the upper section of Lie Detector. As I topped out then turned to say, "Off belay" to my friend, an applause erupted from a group of senior citizens down of the road, who had stopped and decided to watch. I couldn't help but to say, "Thank you, thank you very much (in my best Elvis impersonation)."
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seekthereason
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 23, 2009 - 01:39am PT
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Gary,
sounds like a great time, I'm definitely going to be there. Thanks so much for planning it all!
-Jeff Gicklhorn
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 23, 2009 - 03:32am PT
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Everyone, great Pics. Gary I just emailed you. Hope you get it. Peace, Lynne
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 05:15am PT
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Got it and responded, thanks Lynne.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 23, 2009 - 02:38pm PT
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I'm curious what's afoot to string this out to a three day affair, last time around we just had the one day on the hill and a good old time at Salad's.
Mark me down as "maybe"
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 23, 2009 - 02:42pm PT
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yeah, even as a kid three days in a row at woodson was brutal. my fingers would be swollen, sore, and covered with gobis. i'm gonna make it up there on saturday but that'll probably be it. i was totally spent after the one-day shindig in 2007. sore like "whoa!"
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Dec 23, 2009 - 03:00pm PT
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Chriz bro, dropping in for a TR
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 23, 2009 - 03:33pm PT
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Well I for one, will probably take three days just to get up the hill. Don't plan on doing many problems, but plan on doing a lot of catching up with old friends and makin' new ones. I think there's gonna be maybe a slide show, after climbing party-ing, maybe some off site boozin'(on site with Bolton) and who knows what else Gary can come up with....any ideas for him!
Peace
PS. Gary I bouldered there prior to '86, can we still come? I used this red book with hand drawn cover and routes. Nick Badyrka, Shawn Curtis and Mike Paul use to sandbag the schit outa me up there.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 03:37pm PT
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Glad you asked guys....Here's what I was thinkin...
1. Mountain open (unofficially of course) at 0730 as people start to gather at the practice boulders at the bottom. Sign in, tshirts, announcements, etc. Sponsor booths/tables up at Painted Boulder switchback. Climb till 1630.
2. Caravan over to Vertical Hold for slideshow(s) from guest climbers (TBA).
3. Do it again on Saturday then post party over at Salad's house (or other venue to support the masses).
4. Return home, drive, flights, etc. on Sunday.
Don't climb yourselves out so you can do it again on Saturday! What do you think? Too much? I'm open for suggestions.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 03:40pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Brad aka Beehay
3. Porkchop_express
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. ? Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Powell
49. Kevin
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (ClimbinCalifornia.com)
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. ? Off White
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Dec 23, 2009 - 03:42pm PT
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Sign In?
Papers?
We don't need no stinkin papers!
;)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 03:42pm PT
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Got ya on as a maybe Off White.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 03:45pm PT
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"Sign In" as in maybe a name tag so the young kids can hover and pull on your pant leg for a signature or smile. Van Belle already has a request to have someone's flag signed when they meet up! Shoot, if I can get Royal Robbins to show and hang out below Robbin's Crack I might even be pullin' on his pant leg! Bridwell gave an awesome show on his Great Trango Tower climb at Vertical Hold gym and Tom Frost gave a Lotus Flower Tower presentation in Long Beach back in the day. We're going to see if they can repeat one of these for us veterans plus a young "phenom" to show and do the same for the young kids!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 23, 2009 - 03:52pm PT
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So just to do as you asked, throw ideas out......
It looks like Friday would be the big day with the climbing, vendors etc. ? Is that right ?
What about Friday being a warm up day, including Vertical Hold. Saturday being the heavy duty climbing day with party at Salad's or my casa is open also. Sunday wind down and go home day.
Edit: Royal is an amazing man. He showed up in C4 for our Bachar Memorial in September without even being asked. All the international's, young and older alike in C4, were jazzed and astounded. :D
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 03:54pm PT
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Like minds think alike Lynne! How many (maximum) can you support Lynne for post party? I'm tellin' you, if this thing comes together, those at Woodson are going to remember this!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 23, 2009 - 04:04pm PT
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I'm laughing here in my room in Belgium. Deja vu all over again.
Do you know at the very first ever, I believe, (someone correct me if I'm wrong) Woodson Bouldering Contest we had the post party at our home.
So it would be an honor to host it. But by all rights Salad has the first call. lynnie
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 04:09pm PT
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Salad has been contacted and a concern has been expressed at the number of people that may actually show for this, this time. He, also, suggested a larger venue if need be. He says fifty is pretty much the max for his place so if your property can support a considerably larger number Lynne then we'll consider your place.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 23, 2009 - 04:11pm PT
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What about Dr. F, Craig Frye, did he climb at Woodson ? or Spencer. I know D. Nakahira did and Maria C. and R. Vogel. How bout G. Epperson, Mari, Mike L., Rob Raker, Johnny Woodward.....hey, if yo gonna invite the new ones might as well include some of the first great guns. :D
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2009 - 04:14pm PT
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I have to head out to the climbing gym with my daughter for she is in town from Jersey and requesting it. Keep the thread up on the list for me someone, thanks!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Dec 23, 2009 - 04:22pm PT
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I got family down on Coronado....I may try to make this. Never been to Woodson.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 23, 2009 - 04:44pm PT
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Personally, I think if you try and make a two day climbing event with booths & sponsors & hoopla it would be a wee bit over the top. I'd suggest just a Saturday event, and at least for me, the extra product circus is not particularly attractive. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
Someone should poke Karl Mueller, Ron Amick, & Jeff Almodovar and suggest they show up.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 23, 2009 - 04:53pm PT
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Lynne, got ya covered on the guys from the past, I'll be calling/contacting a lot of people, trust me it's covered, BUT contact me if there is someone you think should be there...or give them an invite yerself, good excuse to call em up and talk with em!
Peace
The name tags are a gud thing, us oldies can't remember each other anyway!
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s.d.
climber
CA
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Dec 23, 2009 - 05:00pm PT
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The list is becoming quite extensive! Thank you, illusiondweller, for putting this event together. If I can be of any help, please let me know.
Since it's the holiday season, here's a photo from last year of my younger brother next to the decorated pine at the top of Woodson near the cell towers.
Sonja
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 23, 2009 - 05:18pm PT
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Hey Ron,
Been meaning to contact you. Such Fun in Josh....thanks!! Your first lead in a while was indeed very well done....and a hand crack at that. And speaking of lead's, thanks for taking the lead in contacting many for this grate event.
We've had a couple weddings at our casa. Don't think having the event will be a problem. But will need to know a semi approx number to arrange for parking etc. If it's over say 125 it pro won't work. Onward and Merry Christmas, lynnie
Edit: Sonja, hi ! Maybe we can work together to help Gary pull this off. Love the pic of the tree and your bro....Feliz Navidad from Belgium So Cal :D
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 23, 2009 - 05:24pm PT
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Off White, agree. Plus right on with the names you mentioned ..... yeah, flashes from the past and way good senders. thanks, lynne
Bluey, dude, you're welcome to pitch a tent among the few avo trees I have left. Yo always take good care of lynnie. Now it's my turn. :D
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 23, 2009 - 07:09pm PT
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Thanks for the pictures of the Lie Detector. I like that view of the upper crack in Mungeclimbers photo. Nice. bvb, I think you're holding out on me bro. A local such as yourself would have done that thing more times than could be counted. You must have more pictures laying around.
Ron - sandbags? At Woodson? Yeah, a dime a dozen. Some things never change.
Rats, I forgot Bolton was going to be there. Just when I thought it would be safe to show up. Now I need to decide if I really feel like risking it. Hey, I know, I'll throw KP to the wolfs and make a run for it while Bolton is distracted.
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Tui
Boulder climber
SD
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Dec 23, 2009 - 07:18pm PT
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So I have this 5 page guide to woodson that has section 3 "the missing link, and other wonders" and "heart of the congo" written on it. The version I have is cut off on all sides of all 5 pages. Does anybody have the full version of this guide?
Also does anybody have any info/maps on all the stuff that is bolted between PhD and Vice Principals? There is a big wall with bolts up to for two lines. I also found one that looks like Driving South but has one big diamond shape pocket on it. Or does anybody have info/maps on the stuff that's below Fall Semester towards the Y Crack (I think that's what it's called). Any and all info and maps would be great. You can just email them if you don't want them posted online.
The Deerhorn Guide would be appreciated as well
Thanks.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Dec 23, 2009 - 07:35pm PT
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You're a sweetheart, Lynne, we'll see what happens. This is all priliminary right now. It would be cool to camp on your turf though.
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Dec 23, 2009 - 10:09pm PT
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I spoke with Tom Scott tonight, he will be there
Add him to the list
James aka F10
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 23, 2009 - 11:31pm PT
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Who is this Tom Scott you speak of?
And who's the old greybeard with the glasses? Long sleeves covering "chicken wings", or track marks?
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Dec 23, 2009 - 11:43pm PT
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Looks like a much of posers
Tell Jeff to get Adrian out there
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 23, 2009 - 11:51pm PT
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One day is enough, any of you ol' f*&ks go out for secret training ahead of time, you will be deservedly trashed come the main event.
Saturday is the day, some of us have jobs.
I'm number two on the list, so listen to me fools.
Who is this Kauk guy, and why is he ahead of me?
How do you "reunite" with a twentysomething? (OK, it's a free country, they can despoil the environment with their presence if they wish.)
Contact me for tips on how to "win friends and influence people".
BH
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 24, 2009 - 12:28am PT
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Count me in!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 03:15am PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
3. Porkchop_express
4. ? Off White
5. mungeclimber
6. ? Ed Hartouni
7. Klimmer
8. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. James aka F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. ? Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Powell
49. Kevin
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (ClimbinCalifornia.com)
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. Brad aka Beehay
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. Greg Epperson
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 03:24am PT
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Beehay Brad, number 2? Look again old timer, I think you missed the "6" in front of the "2"! You have over two month's to get one Friday off of work. I know it's tough not being in charge for a day but I bet you could do it if you really tried. Otherwise, the door is open at a behavior modification program I attend on Friday nights at 7pm. As a matter of fact, I'll be there with my wife and child Christmas night. Can you make it? It's right here in Spring Valley. They always have good coffee. Need a ride? (I'm sure he thinks I'm kidding).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 03:34am PT
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This photo has made the front page of rc.com a few times...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 03:48am PT
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"Woodson, eighties, euro-trash, Retropulsion...", 5.12b
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 04:04am PT
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I backed off this solo attempt back in the day. This is what I get for trying to repeat what I witnessed Rick Piggot make look easy one day!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 02:56pm PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 03:25pm PT
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The number I have for Greg Epperson "has been disconnected or is no longer in service..." Anyone get ahold of him yet?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 24, 2009 - 04:28pm PT
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I'll get to him Gary!
Merry Christmas
Peace
Edit later in the day: Taken care of Gary! Count Eppi in!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 06:40pm PT
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climber
socal
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Dec 24, 2009 - 07:21pm PT
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Went for a little hike on Woodson this morning. Beautiful day! Anybody know what this is? It's about half way between Crucible and the Ogre. On the other side of this boulder is a right trending tips crack, about 25ft and 10+/.11-. I have no idea what it is called, and my batteries died so no pic.
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Dec 24, 2009 - 08:11pm PT
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Well hell's bells. Guess I might just have to haul my butt up there for the shindig. Sounds like it might just turn into a real party.
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Dec 24, 2009 - 08:33pm PT
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A sequence taken of yours truly BITD, mid 80's.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 10:23pm PT
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Yeah, I see you were conforming like the rest of us Andy. When Boreal came out with those new "sticky" Fire's it really changed our confidence level and outlook on some climbs! I remember hearing of the rummor that when you took them out of the box, you could press the soles firmly together and they'd stick! Well, low and behold I tried it and sure enough! What an innovation for climbing!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 10:30pm PT
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I'm racking my brain on that one blr...half way between the Crucible and the Ogre...on the left or right side of the trail heading out to the Ogre? Anyone?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2009 - 10:42pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. James aka F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. ? Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Powell
49. Kevin
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (ClimbinCalifornia.com)
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. Brad aka Beehay
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 24, 2009 - 10:54pm PT
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Ha! Eppi's been trolling this thing since day one, AND, as one of his earliest subjects,largely responsible for his career, (you didn't see the shots?, "whadda ya mean you don't publish photos of 5.8's?", damned biased editors...), HE ain't comin' unless I am unconditionally restored to my rightfull position at #2. We will concede the #1 to this Mr. Kauk for the time being.
Behavior Modification?, I do BM every morning about six, I really don't see the problem...
BH
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 25, 2009 - 12:09am PT
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i'm in san diego, peeps. gonna hit woodson on saturday and see if i still got it to go.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2009 - 12:20am PT
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Geeze, Bob, what'd ya do, hop in the car and fire on back here last night? I'll join ya if all goes well. What time?
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 25, 2009 - 12:30am PT
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Bob, I might hit Santee tomorrow late morning for a bit...
Throw down a time for Woodson, and/or a cell #, I might need some secret training.
BH
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2009 - 12:35am PT
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BM Brad, BM is what you need! Friday night 7pm! Hey, drop me a message and maybe catch a ride with you to Woodson? I'm coming up from Spring Valley.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Dec 25, 2009 - 12:47am PT
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WTF?? bvb in San Diego????
Send in all reinforcements!!!!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 25, 2009 - 01:03am PT
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drove in this afternoon. posting from the 'rents house. psyched to do some bouldering. afraid of what i'm gonna find out when i try to pull -- last time i bouldered was like in june or july. damn near broke my ankle in august and still walk with a limp. not sure if i'm fat or skinny -- arms like limp noodles and a wannabe pus gut. oh, the horror!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2009 - 02:45am PT
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Bump
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2009 - 05:23am PT
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Mike, u lost me. You're not comin'?
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Dec 25, 2009 - 11:14am PT
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I'm in SD for a few days and went to Santee yesterday afternoon,
The rock seemed sneaky clean, amazing what a little rain will do to that grease
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2009 - 01:06pm PT
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MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
"And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men"
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2009 - 03:34pm PT
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 25, 2009 - 04:56pm PT
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One day is enough, any of you ol' f*&ks go out for secret training ahead of time, you will be deservedly trashed come the main event.
Throw down a time for Woodson, and/or a cell #, I might need some secret training.
Ummmm... Anybody else find that sequence of comments odd?
Watusi/Mike - I think it's more about a bunch of people just getting together, at least I hope so. From the sounds of it the only competition is going to be trying to avoid being the last one up the hill.
The ? before Rick's (Piggot) name - Means he's been contacted, but isn't sure yet if he can make it?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2009 - 05:30pm PT
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This is NOT a competition. A Shindig / Reunion and more!
I get conflicting / confusing info on who's coming and who might come. I really don't know if Rick is coming or if he's been contacted or not. I'm hoping he is! If someone could let me know I'll take the "?" away.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2009 - 09:01pm PT
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 25, 2009 - 10:34pm PT
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so i'm hitting woodson tommorrow if anyone wants to join. i'm gonna start with hear my train -- attempt it anyway -- then work my way up the hill for two or three hours. i'm probably gonna be booting up at the train by 11am or thereabouts.
so out of shape. this could get ugly...
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 25, 2009 - 11:39pm PT
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BVB, I'll be there.
Henny, nobody's supposed to be paying attention. I'm so busted.
(The secret training smack talk was actually aimed at the Friday of Shindig weekend. Any old F*#k who can do two full days there, back to back, will have my unconditional respect!)
Sounds like 'tusi was just up too late.
BH
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 26, 2009 - 12:25am PT
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brad, i just shot you an email. let's trade cell #'s.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2009 - 03:16am PT
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Just replied to your email Brad...I'll try real hard to see you up there at 1100!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2009 - 03:23am PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. James aka F10
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. ? Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Powell
49. Kevin
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (ClimbinCalifornia.com)
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. Brad aka Beehay
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. - 72. John/Melissa
73. Dr. Sprock
74.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 26, 2009 - 09:32pm PT
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Oh boy... The shoe doper. Some good stories behind that name. We'll certainly miss Dan.
BH - I'll buy that. Reading your first comment in the light of what you "meant" makes sense. But the choice of words "secret training" in both posts sure did open the door. Then again, I intend to come down there and get in some secret training of my own - hopefully there's enough time to get the hike up the road ruthlessly wired.
Some pictures from the excursion today would only be fitting.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2009 - 09:51pm PT
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Now I've already forgotten the username of "John" that I met on Woodson today, that asked me to put his name on "The List". It was Chas (with an "s") and ? I'll use "John" until I remember or am told otherwise. Thanks guys for signing up and for your hospitality up on Woodson.
I think I pulled a sternum muscle, darn it and I didn't even climb hard today. Got suckered into "warming up" on Californina Night right off the bat. Although successful, I almost puked pulling over the top! Thanks John for your sandbag efforts and convincing me to do it instead ;-)
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा
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Dec 26, 2009 - 10:04pm PT
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You're gonna need an ambulance standing by with that guest list.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 26, 2009 - 10:24pm PT
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Johnny and Chas. Not sure if Johnny posts under an alias. Lurkers...
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 26, 2009 - 11:03pm PT
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RE: Today's excursion...
Just bvb and me (I hooked up with 'dweller after bvb left).
The results, "damn good thing it was secret".
No tic list or photos forthcoming, bvb was a fashion dissapointment anyway.
Brad
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2009 - 11:21pm PT
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Darrell,
Johnny was bragging about you and your skills. "In a league of his own" I think he said.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2009 - 11:24pm PT
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Cragman, I'm a semi-retired Paramedic / Navy Corpsman, but I can call 911 as well as anybody else so don't call on me.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2009 - 01:07am PT
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I thought about the event lasting over two days with a day to go home and those that think it's a bit too much. Well, here's what I came up with:
For those that have to "work for a living" you can come on Saturday. For those that can't come on Saturday, you can come on Friday. And, for those that don't work for a living or can find the time off for all three days, you can decide on whether you can endure both days of climbing or attend only one. Either way, whatever day(s) you can attend there will be something after the day of climbing that will make the day even more memorable, ie; slideshows on Friday or post party on Saturday. Then on Sunday we can all go home.
I think more than one option is better in this case. What do you think?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2009 - 01:22am PT
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Although no pictures came out of today, here's one of the problems BVB and Beehay worked on. I took this photo back in the day and the some of the comments it produced are quoted below the picture. (rc.com)
"hey...that's my wife, circa '85 - 86!" - BVB
"You sure that's your wife Bob? If I remember correctly, this gal didn't seem to be a very accomplished climber when she stepped on to Lemon Chiffon that day. Isn't your wife hard core?!" - illusiondweller
"maybe she was out drinking the night before" - BVB
"She produced a great shot either way, thanks." - illusiondweller
"Bob, you sure that's Jocelyn. Doesn't she normally carry a bigger rack?" - curt
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 27, 2009 - 11:52am PT
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Personally, I like the options for the days. It's likely that Saturday won't work for me, whereas Friday, and possibly even Sunday would. Saturday as the primary day is still going to work best for most people though.
bvb/beehay - I wasn't really looking for a tick list from the excursion, just hoping for some pics to motivate/inspire. bvb a fashion disappointment? Not possible.
'dweller - for sure, they're great guys. But if you believe everything you hear, well, I have a bridge I'll sell you cheap. End of that story.
bvb, how long are you out for?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2009 - 02:01pm PT
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Bump
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Dec 27, 2009 - 02:12pm PT
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So that climb 2 pages back is Digits Delight (I'm pretty sure).
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 27, 2009 - 02:13pm PT
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Here's another idea Gary. If my casa is too small for Sat. Nite Jive....could hold a Fri. nite live for those like DH that can't make Sat.
It's just an idea, trying to make the hospitality of Sun Diego work for all that make it down here. Peace and joy in 2010 .... a New Year that we all are blessed with. :D
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Dec 27, 2009 - 02:41pm PT
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hey Lynn, the shitter's clogged up again.
you got a plunger?
procrastanatedog dehydrated climbers,sheesh,
it's like rocks falling out of there,
holy hasheesh, half the climbing world is gonna be in one place,
good time to hit The Nose, eh? man, they let anybody in down there,
do you have to be over 50 to get in? if so, sign me up.
this place in in Calif., right?
i should have that right front replaced by then, if not? f*#k it, we will drive with the mesh showing for this shindig,
is the guy from Where The Action Is gonna be there? howabout Dick Clark?
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Dimes
Social climber
Living in the past.
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Dec 27, 2009 - 02:50pm PT
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So, here is the man BVB at the last gig.
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Dimes
Social climber
Living in the past.
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Dec 27, 2009 - 03:00pm PT
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O.K. I just got off of the phone with Henny and my direction from him is to "liven" up the thread. So, with those as my marching orders I got to thinking that we should consider Friday and Saturday as a warm up to get our tips in shape for the finale that will be held at Rubidoux on Sunday. This is where once and for all it will be decided "Who is Really Who in the Zoo"!!! Just writing this has already made me feel like the King of Beasts!!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 27, 2009 - 03:42pm PT
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Gezzzz, well finally kp yo are letting loose of some of your great pics and ideas. Let's see more of both. And your idea of F-S sounds grate. Peace and Happy New Year, from your favorite Belgian fan.....uhhhh, maybe your only Belgium fan lol. lynne :D
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2009 - 04:27pm PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. Beehay aka Brad
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44-45. ? Steve Belford & Karen
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (ClimbinCalifornia.com)
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. - 72. John/Melissa
73.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2009 - 05:06pm PT
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Dimes, I don't see your name up there. Are you in?
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Dec 27, 2009 - 05:37pm PT
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"Dimes, I don't see your name up there. Are you in?"
Check with number 48 and 49
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 27, 2009 - 06:15pm PT
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Put BeeHay back at No. 2 or no one may show up.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 27, 2009 - 06:30pm PT
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I heard a "rumor" yesterday at some bouldering area in or near Santee that Henny might be warming up or sizing up Rubidoux today. Any truth to that? Kevin you might know if you talked with the ch.... I mean Henny today. I think he might be throwin' down some hardddd core training to get into the Woodson dig, like Darrel needs to train to climb well!
Peace
#48: Kevin is #49: Powell
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2009 - 07:03pm PT
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Okay, I think I got it now. Had to jockey it around a bit and in the process Beehay is moving back up. He scored a few points yesterday by nailing the center problem on Blasted Rock #2 so he deserves the promotion. Sorry F10.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2009 - 07:11pm PT
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Training at Rubidoux for Woodson, is that possible? I'm going to say, "NOT!"
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 27, 2009 - 08:32pm PT
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Off White, you are 'da man!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 27, 2009 - 08:33pm PT
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Well let's just say if Henny is "training".....it don't matter where. Was bouldering yesterday with an old friend of Hennys and a good point was made,
"the guy from the chicken farm, may just well be the best face climber EVER!"
I think Darrel has logged some time in at Woodson, he ain't no slacker there.
Peace
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Dimes
Social climber
Living in the past.
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Dec 27, 2009 - 10:27pm PT
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IllusionDweller, yes I am in. Will be there for sure. Here is a pic of Henny training at Rubidoux back in 1980. The problem is called "In My Time of Dimes" 5.11a
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Dec 27, 2009 - 10:33pm PT
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"In My Time of Dimes"
hahahahaha. GREAT name for a climb!!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 27, 2009 - 11:35pm PT
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I always got a kick out of the good natured rivalry between Woodson and Rubidoux locals. Great fun, exchanging visits and trying to out sandbag each other (ala "10a on the Outside") Course us Rubidoux guys luckily had the head smack talker himself (KP) which freed us from actually having to do anything. Seriously though - Rubidoux is an absolute waste of time for cracks, but the harder face problems are probably adequate to get one in shape for just about anything that's similar.
Figures Powell would try to rat me out, but no, I didn't visit Rubidoux today. Instead I had to work on the tips by doing some Bishop bouldering.
Getting some callous going seemed like the essential first step for the Rubidoux war party raid that's planned on Woodson later this week.
Gaack, those sideburns.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 27, 2009 - 11:37pm PT
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i thought in my time of dimes was santee 10c?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Dec 28, 2009 - 12:03am PT
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bvb - did you go home? I'm coming down later this week. If you're there through the new year I'd be up for getting shown around.
BTW - That was a typo by KP, the Dimes is 10a. Would it really be Santee 10c...?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 12:12am PT
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Can't wait to meet Darrell Hensel and many others...it's been a long time since the contests back in '86 and '90 where when every corner you took there was activity to be seen or heard up on the hillside.
You know, as much as a good number of climbers prefer to be loners or to be out of the limelight, there are those that want to meet the climbers that did make it onto center stage or even those that didn't but whose names were bragged on about by their peers! I'm speaking for myself as well, for I always wanted to get better with my skills and what better way to do that than to watch or be in the tutealage of someone with more experience than yourself. The kids today are no different than we were. For this reason, I wanted to invite the "kids" up there with us "back in the day" crew so they could walk up a trail and around the manzanita to watch one of us climb or just to meet and hear our stories from back then... or even humble us with their strong skills!
I brag on and become animated about some of your names in this forum to this day to these kids! Can you imagine the excitement that it'll bring, or has already brought to them that they just might be able to meet one of you? Even if you were "nothing", like myself, they, like I, would love to hear your stories. I brought a young climber, Mike, with me the other day when I was looking for BVB and Beehay. We ended up running into John with his girlfriend Melissa, and Chas then continued walking up and over the summit to continue searching. I kept appologizing to Mike for we were doing nothing but hiking instead of climbing. As a matter of fact, the one climb, California Night, that we did do/try was above Mike's ability and he just sat and watched. His comment was, "That's okay, I enjoy meeting climbers who have more experience than myself and watching them for I can learn alot and they have a lot to say." This is the way I was and can probably guess that more than a few of us were as well.
I hope you don't mind that I'm encouraging the kids to be there. It's becoming their mountain/scene now and it'll be up to us to pass down our stories to them so they can say, "Hey, I remember the 2010 Woodson Shindig / 1986 - 90 Reunion when I had a chance to talk and climb with a lot of the "back in the day" guys that we always heard about!
Why don't I encourage you "back in the day" guys/gals to bring a "youngster", whether it's your own or not, with you to the event?!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 12:23am PT
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I left you an email Darrell. Be sure and check your junk mail.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 28, 2009 - 12:30am PT
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Is this 'Mount' Woodson? Just curious - I've never seen a photo of it.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 12:37am PT
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That looks to be it in the distance with the attenna's on top looking from the south. That's what I see coming from my house!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 12:42am PT
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Another classic with a young BVB...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 02:39am PT
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Bump.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 02:42am PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. Beehay aka Brad
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (ClimbinCalifornia.com)
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. - 72. John/Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Dec 28, 2009 - 04:54pm PT
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I'll head down for this! Sounds like something not to be missed.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 08:26pm PT
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Thanks guys...are radical and Schaffer the same person?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 12:06am PT
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Gosh, I hope I didn't kill this thread!
I/we will be posting camping and hotel arrangements shortly but for now, let's see a raise of hands from those that live down here with land, and in the area, that can provide onsite camping for those that attend or can provide a room for those attending and if so, how many and what arrangements? For those already doing so, bless you!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Dec 29, 2009 - 12:44am PT
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less chit chat, more pic pic
what this thread needs is more Tarboussier
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 01:22am PT
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DARN IT, I DID IT AGAIN! GOSH, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! I JUST KICKED THE FOOTSTOOL IN FRONT OF MY COUCH AGAIN AND I COULD SWEAR I WAS GOING TO LOOK DOWN AND SEE IT BENT NINETY DEGREES AGAIN! UNBELIEVABLE!
I did this about a year ago and busted the third toe on my left foot and it was terrible, especially being a climber! I got almost diaphoretic again, with the same excruciating pain and chills that I was begging (while lying prone on the couch with my face in my hands) that it wasn't going to be the same toe/injury! But I'm happy (sort of) to report that it was the fourth toe this time, still in alignment, but swelling with black and blue, from the second digit to the tip of the toe, as we speak. I had just pissed my wife off too and this followed shortly thereafter (I'm convinced it wasn't a coincidence). I don't want to imagine what it's going to be like putting a pair of climbing shoes on yet alone climbing on it! Unbelievable! I'm still in though for at least a hike up the mountain with ya Darrell when you're in town (shaking my head in despair).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 01:38am PT
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Dec 29, 2009 - 01:59am PT
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Ron didn't really have that much to worry about... I was "Local Favorite?" Gimme a break... Don't know why I was targeted?? Entrant #9, Got to go way ahead of the pack... Ron Kauk, takes a detour during his comp circuit as Rick Piggot insists that he try one of his new creations, A Nightmare on Elm Street.
Won't see you there...Got to see it when it was clean....
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 04:20am PT
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Hope to see you Mike. You'll certaintly be missed if we don't!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Dec 29, 2009 - 04:35am PT
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Radical and Shaffer are two different people. (different as in not the same....:D) lynne
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Dec 29, 2009 - 01:02pm PT
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i can provide tent spots in my backyard. im sure my spare rooms are already taken by mungeclimber/scuffyb, etc.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 04:16pm PT
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How many spots Salad?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 04:51pm PT
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I can provide (1) room with bed for a couple/husband and wife or significant other arrangement in Spring Valley, CA. about 25 minute drive from Woodson. Leave me an email.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 04:59pm PT
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Here's a link to Dos Picos Park/Camping located just down the road from Woodson. There are still 41/82 tent/partial hook-up sites left for that time of the year: http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/parks/picnic/dos_picos.html.
Hotels can be found in the cities of Poway or Ramona, west and east of Woodson respectively.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 29, 2009 - 05:03pm PT
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is it just me or is the base of hear my train eroding away? seems like it's a way bigger stretch than it once was to get the first jams. seems like maybe some rocks that provided boost are gone now? hell, i can't remember what the base used to look like but something seems different nowadays...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 05:07pm PT
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Bob, lol, gravity is taking you down bro (as in shorter)! No, the start is still the same as it ever was since '81, from standing on the apex of that stone below. There are definitely some problems where the starts have eroded away making it a taller start from the ground, ie; Maria's Delight. You're still the man though Bob...
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Dec 29, 2009 - 05:21pm PT
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"How many spots Salad? "
plenty of room. big dirt backyard.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 07:06pm PT
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Bump
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 09:03pm PT
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Out of Sight Crack, 5.9
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 09:11pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. Beehay aka Brad
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (ClimbinCalifornia.com)
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. - 72. John/Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 09:16pm PT
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Vice Principle's Office Move Topo
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 09:44pm PT
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Was perusing my emails from the past and came across these From/To John Bachar that we exchanged regarding his health and in purchasing his Acopa's...the only time I ever got to do so before he died...
On Jul 6, 2007, at 11:14 AM, G M wrote:
John,
I spoke with you on rc.com a while back when gathering information for Mt. Woodson on rc.com's site and then you had your accident. How is everything? Where are you in your recovery? Climbing yet? Just saw your post in regards to Mike Strassman's death and thought about you.
Gary E. McCay
New Jersey (San Diego native)
-----Original Message
From: "John Bachar"
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:23 PM
To: "G M"
Subject: Re: wellness
Gary,
Thanks man - I really appreciate it. I'm climbing OK these days (11c to 12a sport). Don't have any power yet (bouldering) but I ain't complaining - just happy as hell to be on the rock again.
How's the Woodson project going? I'd be happy to help if I can - if I can remember that far back that is!
Anyway, hope you're strong and healthy and hope to see ya' at the crags sometime soon. Let me know if you ever get up to the East Side for some climbing action - let's go cragging baby!
Cheers,
John
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Re: wellness
From: John Bachar (john@acopausa.com)
Sent: Tue 1/29/08 10:34 PM
To: illusiondweller (illusiondweller@hotmail.com)
How's all that Woodson info coming together anyway?
I got a new injury now - I pulled my groin really bad the other day. Won't be climbing for a couple months at least.
Enjoy the shoes!
Talk soon, John
On Jan 29, 2008, at 8:19 PM, illusiondweller wrote:
Your groin? John, were u climbing? Dang, that sounds uncomfortable! Out for a couple months? That had to have been a mental setback as well as the physical after having progressed since your car accident! Are u self treating?
Re: wellness
From: John Bachar (john@acopausa.com)
Sent: Tue 1/29/08 11:32 PM
To: illusiondweller (illusiondweller@hotmail.com)
Yeah, I jumped off a boulder problem and landed in a open legged squat position and felt a ripping sensation in my groin. I thought maybe it was a hernia so I went to the doctor. He said I pulled my adductor longus and pubic symphysis ligament. Man it really hurt bad for the first ten days. It's a little better now but I can tell it's gonna take a while to heal.
I think I'll go to physical therapy for a couple sessions to see what they do for this type of injury.
Anyway, I hope all's good on your end of things and those Spectres are working for you on those Woodson dimes!
Hopefully we'll go climbing this summer when I heal up!
Cheers, John
Re: Spectres
From: John Bachar (john@acopausa.com)
Sent: Wed 4/02/08 9:45 AM
To: illusiondweller (illusiondweller@hotmail.com)
The adductor longus is better but I pulled some deeper stomach muscle too and that still feel a little weak and tender. I just started wearing a harness two weeks ago and still can't take a leader fall or belay someone who does take leader falls. I hope the shoe thing works out for you. I'll be in Josh Friday night for the reunion thing this weekend. Gimme a call if you're out there... Cheers, John
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 30, 2009 - 12:54pm PT
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Just curious, but are you trying to keep this on the front page for the next three months?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 30, 2009 - 01:24pm PT
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BUMP!
beats the off topic stuff!
Peace
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 30, 2009 - 01:35pm PT
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Good luck keeping anything here on the front page for three days, let alone three months. Even LEB couldn't do it.
ID may have overlooked that when he posts a new 'bump', simply as such - no new content - he can go back and delete earlier bumps. Helps tidy things up.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2009 - 02:45pm PT
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ID is aware of the delete post option for previous "bumps"...thanks again. Having a BlackBerry in pocket helps keep up while on the go.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Dec 30, 2009 - 05:16pm PT
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C'mon, Off, it's only 2 months and 3 weeks now.
I keep a rocket in my pocket, I try to bump it daily...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 31, 2009 - 03:22pm PT
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I guess that didn't work or what, lol? Word has it that you can embed video's from youtube (other than just creating a link) so I tried the "embed" code from youtube and it didn't work. Maybe someone else knows?
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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"Just curious, but are you trying to keep this on the front page for the next three months?"
One_Million_Posts_On_the_Taco_Forum
I would put my $$$$$ on this thread, it would be a sure thing,
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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BUMP
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 05:50am PT
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Although I was a late arrival today I met up with the Rubidoux crew, Henny, Johnny, Melissa and Tim coming down the mountain who had just come off of Airstream. The afternoon was exceptional, complete with a clear view of the Point Loma peninsula, the Coronado Islands, a spectacular and huge harvest moonrise emerging up from behind the eastern horizon and a painted sunset out west!
The wind chilled us all as we ticked Eppi's B-Day and got spanked on the arete to its left. To my surprise, my toe seemed to be unaffected until I stepped up on Baby Robbins Crack and whimpered like a baby. This was not a good thing. Johnny's classic rock seem to put me "back in the day" again and that WAS a good thing!
Although a short day for me it was nice to have been there with some new faces and talented people.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 06:55am PT
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Bump for the new year!
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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help keep it bumped W/ some SD county BITD
climbing story spray...got tons of that :-)
pre and post sticky rubber exploits...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 01:57pm PT
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Thank God for another beautiful day in San Diego!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 02:49pm PT
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Here's some b.i.t.d. spray for ya Ray..."Do you know Ray Olson? I remember watching him do Driving South and it seemed his feet never touched the rock!" or how about this one..."At the '86 awards ceremony, when the announcer was about to give out an award, he asked, " Is Ray Olson out there? Stand up Ray so we can see you" You frustratingly replied, "I am standing up!"
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 04:23pm PT
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Bump
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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hilarious!
so, check it out -
once I took Piggot way the hell out to
one of the most remote crags around
(at that time) a thing I named "The Hotel
Dell" on Mothergrundy peak.
there's this near exact - and I mean exact
carbon-copy of The Test Tube up there but,
it is way the phuk overhanging. Not roof-like
just WAY freakin steep.
So happens, I fit in the flare perfect, heel/knee
action with the lower, elbow/palm action with
the upper, fishing for tip jams with the inside hand,
and so "ratcheted" up the thing smoothly - just a
quirk; I fit the climb to a T.
Piggot did the thing no falls too, but it took some
effort, he trembled a fair bit, almost off a couple
times eeeeeee - but got it - pretty amazing.
Funny!
Rick was great to climb with.
We were all so freakin lucky to have a
life like that. What a gift climbing is!
:-)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 05:21pm PT
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Okay, back to Mother Grundy Truck Trail...
We were TRing "Full Moon Boogy." I was sitting there tying my shoes, getting ready. I tied in and started up the thing when a friend of mine stated, "Gary, look at your shoes!" I look down while in a finger lock and notice that I have one red shoe and one green shoe! "Huh?!" I ask myself. "You've got one of my shoes on!" he laughs. I continue anyway.
Okay...it's not over....I top out on the same, meet eyes with my belayer, Joe, and take tension for the lower off. Joe has taken refuge on top of a boulder about twenty feet back from the climb, thinking that since it was just a TR everything SHOULD be okay. I begin to lower when suddenly....I BEGIN TO FALL! As my stomach makes it's way up into my throat, everything goes black! When I come to a bungy-like halt and reopen my eyes, my feet are about six feet from the ground and Joe is floundering in the dirt cloud underneath me trying to regain his composure! "WTF!" I exclaim. "There, that's for the time you rolled that car tire over my foot and ripped the toenail off when we were kids!" he retorted.
This still puzzles me to this day!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 05:25pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. Beehay aka Brad
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. - 72. John/Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 05:55pm PT
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Ray, you have to come to this even if you don't climb! Come on dude everyone talks about you. Brad aka BeeHay still can't put your F.R.O.G. pack down. I was just up at Woodson yesterday and the crew from Rubidoux were the ones telling me those fun stories about you and your climbing. You really would be an asset for this one. Also, pass the word on to any contacts that you may have that haven't heard about this and have them join in as well.
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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can't man - love to.
dealing w/ "severe lubar arthritis" right now,
and have some disk/bone spur crap going
on that I cannot mess with - sorry, so kind
of you and sorry to get "gory". Ok. :-)
chin up/man up - another SD cragger tale:
Pre-sticky rubber.
was out at "The Burn" with Epi, Jeff and Adrian
Almodovar. Right by the road (truck trail) are
some classic Woodson size boulders with some
nifty thin cracks! Really neat ones. These are TR
climbs BECAUSE - you need mass huevos of solid
Chromemoly steel to highball and your mental health
would be in even more question if you tried to lead.
High enough to phuk you up bad if you decked, maybe
not die and hard enough (SD county 5.11+*) to count.
* meaning this sh*t would be easily in the .12 range in
a normal YDS scenario.
There's this crack, "Double-Digit Inflation"; very pretty
straight in fingers, perfect rock, nice subtle variations
in the crack - not some brutal square cut hideous sh*t.
Primo quality.
So, we all do a lap or two on that - in E.B's...mine had some
sort of bullsh*t resole job with some kinda crappy rubber and
you just made believe it was "better than stock". We (I) was punked-
out: pink patent leather side-panels on the EB's and high end
Vaurnet sunglasses, dude.
Then, after that, I take the guys a few dozen yards north (these are
west-facing climbs) to this OTHER thing I found. I had looked at it
from the ground, stuck my mitts in it and wondered if I could really
climb the phukking thing - it is nearly a roof. And, it is "bad size";
1" to 1 1/8" to 1 1/4" and you look out, upside down and feel like
you're pulling out a roof - way cool! Killer climbing.
A TR was set. We all had a go. It was quite hard. No one was getting
it. Hmm. Took something like 3 tries, 3 falls, and the sequence finally
clicked. Its the type of climbing where you feel "barely in there" you know?.
Like a whisper and you're OFF. Great stuff.
Just before the buldge/lip you get hands, and then an abrupt fist right
at the lip, pull the lip - seems easy then, don't blow it - and its over.
the "Hillside Strangler" .11+ kick ass cool IMO. Epi, fairlly reserved told
me he honestly thought it was, at that time, the hardest thing he knew of
in SD. He didn't hand that sh*t out like candy, and I remember thinkng
to myself "dude, don't let it go to your head because you know all three
of those guys are - in fact - much better climbers than you". And that was/
is true. Climbs like that are sort of like a "trick" or something, and my size
may have helped. Way fun tho.
Not sure if Jeff did it or if they all got shut down.
BTW, Hudon is right, it IS footwork. Really is. You gotta "over emphasise"
and good phukking luck setting 1 1/8" jams in a near roof if you cannot
lock in with the feet strongly and basically kinda "cantalever" the upper
body inward - along with subtle, tiny, deadpoint moves.
Learned that from watching Watusi climb; really, kind of a master
in my book.
Cool day, good fun - the beautiful onshore breeze flowing, sun shining,
68 degree mid January - just another day in the hills with my buds.
We were so, so fortunate.
It was such a blast.
The power, energy, and insane single-mindedness of youth.
Nothing, absolutly nothing in this world like it.
anyway...
have fun
climb safe
Ray
:-)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 07:09pm PT
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Great stuff Ray...If you didn't know, I did the Paramedic thing for nearly 17 years so what you shared was tame, yet, I understand now what you must be going through. Back problems can be the worst for it provides your central support for your body and it can be completely debilitating! Take it slow and take care of yourself.
On a different note, as well as sharing "spray", I thought I'd also start a "What Other Paths Did Life Take You" over the years since the good ol' days of climbing?
On that note here's a copy/paste from my blog:
"I, now forty seven years of age, was raised in the civilian world until the age of thirty six, two month's before my thirty seventh birthday, the cut-off age for the Reserves then, when I stepped into a Navy recruiter's office and offered my services as a civilian Paramedic.
Since the age of seventeen, when my high school football field was invaded by all the branches of the armed forces, each branch having set up their own recruitment tent in preparation to fill their quotas, my thought of becoming a Navy SEAL had surfaced. I never took the bait back then but the desire to "do my part" in the United States Armed Services followed me. I wanted to be able to say, "I know where you're coming from" when in conversation with a service member. I was in a bit of need for a job and support at that time in my life and word had it that the Service was incorporating civilian experience into the military.
One morning, while having breakfast with a Navy recruiter who was nearly half my age, I was offered a part-time enlisted position as a Navy Corpsman in the Ready Reserves which I accepted with a signature on the dotted line. The next day I was officially sworn in down at the 32nd Street Naval Air Station, San Diego, California. Yes, it was a crash course into the Navy but in the eight years that I served I learned a bit more about the services that protect my country."
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 07:25pm PT
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This inevitably landed me in Iraq at the end of August of '04. I spent the next seven month's over there with a Marine unit out of Texas as one of their Corpsman. Of course, I couldn't give up climbing, so other than having my Climbing Magazine subscription transfered over there I found a cement wall were I created a traverse wall with "glue up" holds that consisted of natural Euphrates River rock and plastic gym holds that I had given to me from another military member who had done the same thing but passed them on to me before he returned home from his deployment. I guess word traveled for I had never met the guy before nor was he part of our group. He showed up one day with a box of holds!
Here's a couple of pictures from rc.com:
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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thank you Illusiondweller -
neat pix from your blog and
everything.
looks like the Woodsonian thing
will hopefully become an annual
and maybe even regular deal.
Looks to be a killer turn-out.
say, one question - do you recall
where at Mt. Woodson the boulder
problem named "Pit Bull" is? And,
basically what kind of climb it is?
I think they pinned the FA on me,
and its flat-out pitiful I can't remember.
BUT, the main reason I ask is, maybe
that info will jog my mind to cough
up some more memories and stuff.
thanks again.
Ray
Oh, BTW - iin terms of injuries, I got a buddy
who was totaled big time, they put him back
together and - it took a while - but darned if
he isn't climbing and leading really well again
AT AGE 52.
so - am hopeful; more later.
:-)
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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hey ray --
"pit bull" is on a boulder located on the crest of the hill above "hear my train" -- a steep, southwest-facing face climb on some pretty small holds. rick allenby did the f.a. think they called it 5.12.
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Dimes
Social climber
Living in the past.
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Here is Donny Bedford on Deport Jonny the day of the FA in Mar of 89.
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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thanks bvb - that clarifies it since I didn't remember it
at all and was beginning...to wonder :-)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2010 - 10:38pm PT
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Bob, Ray, Pit Bull (original), 5.10d/5.11, circa '85, is at the summit, behind the now fenced in, white brick, National Oceanograhic Weather Service, something like that, building, about 100 yds downhill on the south face. On the overhanging east side of the boulder, starting down low and left, is a detaching flake that diagonals up and right to a sloping mantle topout with two bolts and chain anchor. Getting to these anchors to set up the TR is the first crux! I was told you put this up Ray, whether you did or not is not for certain. Now, there is another Pit Bull down at Tower #1 which went up much later.
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Gary Carpenter
climber
SF Bay Area
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Illusiondweller on "The Potato Chip" 1-1-2009
We just happened to meet him as we were hiking up the trail & he gave me and Ed H a tour of all the Woodson classics. As I recall, the tour ended by headlamp after dark!
I'm looking forward to being there Saturday.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2010 - 06:10pm PT
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Gary...this is Gary...;-)
Well, some of the classics for there are much more. Seeing this was a surprise for I had forgotten about that picture! Hey, I wish we had had more time to climb together that day. I saw the video's that you ended up with after that trip and they were classic (http://www.vimeo.com/2756857);! Looks like we'll get a chance to do it again in March. Thanks for posting that.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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one of these days that puppy is gonna snap.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2010 - 08:28pm PT
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Don't be mislead by my relaxed posture for I believe I was saying, "Hurry up and take that picture guys!" Quite a change from what we use to think as kids! Steve Belford out of Poway use to heel hook that thing out to the end then mantle up and over! That drop off below has to be 30-40 feet to the ground, no?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Super Bump for that last photo!! Priceless really!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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bvb - Check your ST e-mail. A mutual friend of ours is looking to get in touch with you about a Flagstaff trip.
Cool picture of Donny on Deport Jonny. Another great problem. I just got an e-mail address for Donny. I plan to contact him and will mention the March get together. I sure do hope someone knows how to contact Rick Piggot, and has done so. Rick would seem to be one of the key figures to have present at any Woodson get together.
I spoke to Woodward who said he didn't believe he would be able to make it out in March. He happened to call me while we were up by the top of the mountain. Gave me a stack of sh#t about bouldering in the sun while he was shoveling snow. Isn't Woodson great?
It was a couple of enjoyable days at Woodson. Nice to see the place again after having not been there for so long. Good friends, good problems, great place.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Anybody remember the name of the top rope arete just left of Eppy's B-day? The problem was put up by Donny Bedford, and for the life of me I can't remember the name now. It's like Rubidoux's Pink Bug, only it's a much, much longer version of it on some serious steroids.
Donny found the problem in retaliation for having been taken to the Pink Bug during one of his Rubidoux visits. Something about problems like that being a dime a dozen at Woodson, only much bigger (both true), and that they were going home to find something just for us. A couple of weeks later there was a phone call that said they had found a "present" for us to try and open just left of Eppy's B-day. Forced to defend Rubidoux's honor a trip was made down to Woodson specifically for it. Luckily it was repeated on the first trip within relatively few tries, but it was a serious effort.
Going back to it was revealing, as over time the true difficulty of it had faded in memory. Getting spanked was an apt description for the return visit to it. Funny how much harder it was lacking the "proper" motivation.
Yet again another good Woodson problem, and relatively unknown I suspect. Which is too bad because it's quite good.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2010 - 11:37pm PT
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Check this one out of that flake Mike!...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2010 - 11:45pm PT
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Gosh, I think that kid has his left arm behind his back, no?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2010 - 12:24am PT
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bump
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2010 - 12:25am PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. Beehay aka Brad
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. - 72. John/Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2010 - 01:48am PT
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Anymore SoCal cragger tales out there? Let's here 'em!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2010 - 03:58am PT
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Here's one that sounds more like a roadrunner episode than anything! But I'm telling you, it actually happened!...
I was out alone at Santee, circa 1980 something, back by the Twenty Point Boulder when nature called on me to deliver a package. I had other options but I found myself walking uphill along the ridge on a faint trail. Out of sight from any humans that I could see I proceeded to drop my drawers and assume the position. Faintly, I started to detect the familiar sound of something running over the ground and it was quickly getting louder in front of me! I started to raise my eyes (don't forget to recall the position I was in) when a COYOTE appeared coming directly at me at full steam! When his eyes met with mine he put on his brakes, rearing back and coming to a sliding stop in the dirt about fifteen feet before me! He locked eyes with me for a quick second longer then darted to his right, down into the ravine below. I continued watching when out from a bush, a Jack rabbit emerged with the coyote now in close pursuit! Still shaken, I took a deep breath in relief and then realized that I was finished with my delivery!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2010 - 02:09pm PT
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Happy Birthday Ed Hartouni!
This photo must have been taken the same day mine was taken!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Woodson.....Pic I took in early 80's. Sorry for the quality. Any idea what climb ? lynnie
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2010 - 02:32pm PT
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FYI, this looks like my older brother! Its not but that's the first thing I thought of when I looked at it. I don't recognize the surroundings. Is it in a California desert? Whoa wait, you changed the picture! Lol, and I still can't place the boulder?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Sorry Gary, my picture posting has not worked well, if at all, since I arrived in Europe. Got the two correct pics up now. Hope they stay in place. It is Woodson...we did a bushwack back in the day to get to this rock. lynne
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Tui
Boulder climber
SD
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I think the pic that is two pics up is the climb that is on the trail going down to Hard as Nails. Greg's problem. 5.11a
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2010 - 03:12pm PT
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Don't recognize the climber but it looks as if he is unroped on the Seminar Wall?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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this problem is "greg's face", totally obvious from the road, right below the seminar wall awitchback. when i was at woodson with beehay over christmas we stopped and looked at it from the road. the trail to it is gone, just gone. i bet nobody has done that thing in a very, very long time. and that's a shame. it's a five-star woodson 5.11 highball with lots of air and classic steep slab moves. one of the best climbs of it's type at woodson, really. somebody should cut a new trail down to it before the shindig so folks can jump on it.
i think you used to walk under it on the way down to "hard as nails". is that trail gone as well?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Yeah Bob I remember that one being cool!!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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bvb, thanks for the info. Think it was a bit of a "bushy" walk bitd. If anyone wants to meet me at Woodsen between now and March I'd be glad to provide some labor and a couple machetes. :D lynne
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2010 - 04:05pm PT
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I was nineteen, back in 1981, when, while working at General Dynamics Electronics, I learned of a ropes course being given out in Jacumba, CA. I would meet a man named Roger Barnes, of Poway, CA, who became my climbing mentor for a number of years thereafter. Roger introduced me to Woodson and began to share with me its lore that I continue to share to those that come to this wonderful place. I hope to reunite with Roger and bring him with me in March.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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bvb - trails are currently being cut/recut to new/existing problems. You made your wish in the right place, I suspect trails will now reappear to those classics. It looks like there are quite a few new problems under construction.
That spot on Greg's Problem looks really useful. About the only thing that would happen there is that the "spotter" would get "squashed".
I'm not sure if I've ever been to Hard as Nails or not. What kind of problem is it? Face or crack? For some reason I want to say crack but I'm not sure why.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2010 - 04:19pm PT
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The trail is still there ya'll but a bit vague to spot. Just before the Seminar Wall switchback, across the road from where that overhanging orange face looms above, you can spot it down on the right side below some cement blocks. It's quite the groomed trail still! Henny, this is the same trail to Hard As Nails, 5.11a/b tips crack that looks like a miniature of something you'd see in Yosemite! It's that gorgeous and leadable! Johnny said he had been there when I ran into you all. I'm sure he can fill you in on the details. Here are some pictures I found...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2010 - 06:16pm PT
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Here, Lynne....I did a quick retouch job on that photo...
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Anxious Melancholy
Mountain climber
Between the Depths of Despair & Heights of Folly
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I'd like to see you all, but if I show up it will give Zip an opportunity to kick my ass............
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Thanks Illusion....looks great ! lynne
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Reiholdht Meissner?
anxious, that zip ain'tt kickin' anyone's ass....
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Johannsolo
climber
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I was down at Greg's face for a look a couple of weeks ago. Still a faint trail from the gully below Seminar wall. The base of the face is overgrown though. We'll chop it out probably on the next visit.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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I got in touch with Donny Bedford. Hopefully he'll post up here soon, as he was mentioning some pretty good stuff.
He did set me straight on the name and rating of the arete just left of Eppy's B-day. Slap You Silly, 11b.
Looks like some 11a problems need to be dusted off at Rubidoux. Sheesh, it just never seems to end.
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Tui
Boulder climber
SD
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The best trail to Greg's face and Nails is on the right side of the road about 10 feet before it turns left. You Go straight down for about 8 feet over two small rocks and the trail goes left straight to Greg's and then hits the gully and you follow that downhill (right) for 30 feet or so.
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Tui
Boulder climber
SD
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Thanks to whomever is fixing the trails. Some look freshly cut in the past few months.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Can I come? I really wanna'!
I been to Woodson a time or two.
Put me on the list please.
I really just want to check out the scene, and I'm old enough to fit in.
What's the date again?
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Johannsolo
climber
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We re-chopped out the trail from Big Horn down to Starface. Amazing piece of rock down there. Don't show up without a limb saw.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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oh, right...starface! i'd totally forgotten about that rig. one of the best V2 superhighball slabs at woodson.
gonna hit that up for sure...on a top-rope.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Hey dee ee,
You had better damn well not show up higher than #12 on that list! (I'm still considering suing for a recount, I smell hanging chads...)
Get on the Grecian Formula now, ol' man, we are well preserved here in Extreme Socal.
I hope you make it.
Brad
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dave yer ON the list, March 19-21, but I think us "oldies" are only gonna show on Saturday or whatever! Be there, it won't be hard to recognize all of us. Look for the gray hair, beer gut, balding heads and old school chalk bags!
Peace
Gary....PUT DAVE ON THE LIST!!!!!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Brad, I think I'm #2 on the list. How come you're so far down? ahem
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diablo
Trad climber
sd,ca
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ok, if dee ee is in so am I , I'll try and get ahold of buba also.
What about Raker? Anyone know about him?
JEFF A.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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'bout time jeff. frikken fashionably late party crasher.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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I'll get hold of Raker, he travels a ton so it'll be lucky if he's free, but ya never know!
Peace
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Ron, Rob may be relocating to the Eastside so perhaps he can make it. If he can, a couple of my climbing kiddos may come down too. They were in the single digit time of their life when we hit Woodson bitd and reconnected with Raker at John's Memorial. Peace :D Lynne
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2010 - 04:17pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. Beehay aka Brad
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. - 72. John/Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave
82. Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2010 - 04:19pm PT
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I'll second that Bob, "It's about time, Jeff!"
Did I get all the new arrivals on the list? Sorry, been out of pocket the last few days.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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#81 and #82 Dave and dee eee may be the one and same!
Peace
Lynne, I'll call Raker, would be good news if he's heading to the east side, he didn't mention it at the memorial, but we just had a short time together and we were talkin' other smack.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2010 - 04:26pm PT
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Here's a repost from the first page Dee ee...
"This should be better/cooler (temp) than the last! The date is set: March 19, 20, 21, 2010 up at Mt. Woodson. Come one, come all, young and old, local and far off. Yet, also, looking for those that attended the last shindig in '07 and those that attended the contest in 1986 and 1990! This should be a historic event for Woodson's history and a chance for the young and old to come together and enjoy what we all can't seem to get enough of! Plans include: guest appearances, both from the past and present, product giveaways and booths, along with post climb slideshows and party over a three day weekend!"
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Gary, I'm not sure, but I think #81 and #82 may be the same person. dee ee is Dave (as in - Mr. Evans, Sir).
Well, if the Rake shows nobody that has any food is going to be safe. So much for anybody bringing a lunch or snack along with them. "Hey, you gonna eat that?"
Edit: Dang Ron. You beat me to the call on dee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2010 - 04:27pm PT
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Is Johnny aka Johansolo?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2010 - 04:28pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
1 1/2. Beehay aka Brad
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. (reserved)
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Is Johnny aka Johansolo?
I suspect they are one and the same.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2010 - 04:56pm PT
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Okay, the plot thickens...Dee ee states he's #2 on the list. If this is so, then Dee ee is Rick Piggot?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dave Evans is Dee ee, put him LOW on the list, he'll be there sandbagging all the youngin's. If Raker show's........I'll feed him! Don't want to scare anyone away!
Peace
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Other side of the road from Woodson...
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Offwhite,
That last photo isn't revisionist history is it? Lol
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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I was just givin' Bee Hay a hard time!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Ron, you're going to feed Raker????
Can't be done. You'll go broke first.
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scuffy b
climber
Whuttiz that Monstrosicos Inferno?
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No, Klimmer, his swami always rides up when he's soloing...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2010 - 07:59pm PT
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Pssst, Beehay, look at the list!
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Yeah, I don't know if I even have a scan with the top rope still in it, I p'shopped it out as a birthday present for BVB back when he was still building his "american legend, bishes" schtick. Here's a further away shot of the same route, showing the crack size that Mr. Scuffy's bound to find appealing...
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Cheap Mexican food Henny! Get his stomach full of cheap beans, tortillas and lard, then I hand him off to you for the night! Fart city for you and lots of laughs for me! Come on, last time I saw Rob, he was skinny as schit.....how much can the "hat rack" eat anyway?
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2010 - 09:20pm PT
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Met James, aka F10, at Santee Boulders Tuesday. Saw the "F.R.O.G." pack and some gray and figured I was watching an old timer in action!
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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More Everest photos
Photo credit, Tom Scott
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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I wanna do that one!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2010 - 12:32am PT
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bump
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Add my name to the list. I used to climb at that hill from 84-96. Now I just mountain bike around the thing. I can talk Dan Haughelstine to come out. Do the Lindners still live at the bottom? Dan said he heard Rick was into road biking or something. It would be really cool if Rick showed up. I haven't seen him since vegas in 97. I might be heading up there to belay Henny on sunday afternoon. Time to break out the scarpas.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2010 - 08:54am PT
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I just ran into Elkie Lindner hiking the mountain for they, Tom and her, are back INCONUS and she said she'd pass the word.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2010 - 09:00am PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
1 1/2. Beehay aka Brad
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. (reserved)
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. Roger Barnes
86.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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OK, I'll rat someone out. REIGN 1 = Donny Bedford.
I second REIGN 1, I hope someone knows how to reach Rick Piggot, or already has. Anybody know if he's still in the Reno area? That's the last I heard of his whereabouts.
Has anybody done Exit Stage Left 11c, the classic Bedford problem on the Uncertainty Principle block? Traverse straight left past Kurtains a ways, then pretty much straight up the face. Good, good stuff! The rating proves Woodson has enough sand to fill up some bags.
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Your killing me Hensel!
Are you still up for an afternoon hike up that old ass road on sunday?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Hopefully my tips will hold up better this time. Last week they got so hammered that they took until yesterday to quit hurting. Bottom line: old ass wimp.
So Donny, explain this to me. Kurtains is 12a, right? I thought that without a doubt Exit Stage Left was harder. Uncertainty Principle is given 11c and there is ZERO doubt it's easier than Exit Stage Left. So what's wrong with this picture -->> Exit Stage Left, 11c. It's like calling Slap You Silly 11b. Even Powell wouldn't go that far overboard... or would he?
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Henny,
I remember the first time me and Verdugo met you and KP at the rubidoux parking lot and started hiking. We ran into Tim Powell and the first thing he said was, "did those guys your going to sandbag today ever show up?"
I don't think we ever got on anything over 5.10b that day. hahaha
Has anyone done the bolted face on the big grunt chimney lately? When I ride my bike up there I never see chalk on it. That's another classic 5.11b-12.a lead. There is still lots of potential on that hill.
Somebody was asking about a couple of leads on the northeast side down from the fall semester area. I forget the names but they both are pretty good climbs. There is a pretty good slab to the right of fall semester called I think "jenny after school". Starving in stereo was always good to.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2010 - 08:03pm PT
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Wow, Donny Bedford...long time no see! Maybe I can tag along with you guys. Any chance of it happening on Saturday? Drop me an email either way with info if possible.
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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I can't make it for saturday. Mountain biking and supercross opener at anaheim is this saturday.
Sunday henny said he'd be getting worked on that diamond shaped rock above that first turn where you can see the san diego smog. I'm uncertain about what time but I think it will be around noon.
I haven't climbed in over 12 years so henny said he would put me on every tips face and meat grinder crack out there. Hope he can out run my bike after this! hahaha
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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I'll be getting worked hiking up the road to that diamond shaped face is more like it. Oh yeah, there's a plan for REIGN 1. You betcha.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Yeah that last comment by Darrel............sandbag! I would imagine yer in pretty good climbin' shape! Never knew you NOT to be! Watch out you guys, if yer meeting him on Sunday, I already told him I'm in for belaying or spectating if I make it.
Peace
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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I don't know if he's really a sandbagger. If you look closely at all the pictures Powell has taken of henny, you will be able to tell KP is really good at photoshop. hahaha
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Mostly it's just about getting out, and doing whatever you can. The smack talk is fun though.
Bedford...don't make me do it...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2010 - 10:59pm PT
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Things r looking good people, looking real good!
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Do what? Henny I don't know what your talking about. I've been out of this sport so long I guess I missed some coded message or something.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Yeah Gary.....looking gud, yer doing a good thing and it'll be a good thing this shindig!
Peace
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Dimes
Social climber
Thinking about Retirement
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Hey Reign 1, this birdie called me tonight and suggested I visit this thread. And oh how glad I am that I did-I fired up the computer (think Photoshop time) searched the memrobilia box and created, well the composite image that you see below. Yes, the very shoes that sent 5.10a On The Outside and Slap You Silly on their very first try. Oh how humble I am.
Head of the MHU
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Adidas Country's
Green Dot
Shoe Goo
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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i was more of a "scats" guy. ran 'em stock, too. so sw0le.
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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See Henny, If dimes was able to do slap you silly in those clapped out track shoes, it has to only be rated 11.b or maybe 10.c. I did 10.a on the outside in my lava domes.
I did a steep climb you are meeting me at in my asics without the cheating rubber that Dimes had to use.
You poor guys must have bumped your heads way to many times. haha
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Hey Bob...Those Scats were cool!! Yeah and I used to run some laps on this classic .10c in stock trainers...
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Put Dan haughelstine on that list. I might need back up.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2010 - 02:05am PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
1 1/2. Beehay aka Brad
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. (reserved)
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. Roger Barnes
86. Dan Hauglestine
87. em knOt aka ?
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em kn0t
Trad climber
isle of wyde
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is there room for one more BAWC oWf@rt wheezin geezer?
(if so, please add me to the list--those cracks look beeeeee-eautifull!)
em@geezersRus
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2010 - 10:57am PT
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bump
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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you'll love, it Em!
any chance that that "Jason" is Jason Sands the Phoenician? if not, some one (wideload, Sooze??) should hip him to this!
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Henny, You and powell should maybe think about concentrating on to first two small boulders at the bottom and then attempt the hike up to painted boulder and camp there all weekend. I'm sure those beginner boulders will give you two a challenge for a few days. As far as shoes go, I just might have to sport my tennis shoes because I don't think my fat size 11 feet will fit into those size 8 shoes anymore. haha
I guess we'll see what skillz you still have on sunday. Don't worry about me. I don't have any skills and never did! Man,sure wish I had some photos of me hauling you up all those steep routes in the 90's. hahaha
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Johannsolo
climber
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Starving is on the right, visible from the swithchback just past Big Grunt. I think I pointed it out to you last weekend. I went chopping around there a couple of weeks ago but have yet to get on it. Here is a picture I found on rockclimbing.com
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Johannsolo
climber
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We've been wandering around the boulders near the fire road at the bottom of the hill, down at the bottom of the gully from Seminar wall. A stones throw off the road, just before the switchback where the dirt road goes North, is a boulder with a very nice and hard left to right lay back crack. Pretty much horizontal for a few moves with almost no feet then easy when the crack turns vertical. On the face to the left are some vertical cracks in kinda dirty rock. Anyone have any idea what I'm talking about as it must have been done. I'll try to get some pics of it this weekend.
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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I'm gonna ride my bike up there this afternoon and scope out the place. There seems to be a lot of potential on the north side and it's easy to get to now that they have a single track all around the hill.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Johnny, yeah I remember you showing it to me as I didn't remember where it was at the time. I've done it once, years ago. I couldn't remember who put it up, and thought it might be cool to see any good pictures of it. Thanks for the picture.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Pictures. We need more pictures in this thread.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Has everyone started training for upcoming Shindig?
err, was this what you meant Henny?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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sw0le!
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Johannsolo
climber
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Anyone know this one? The rope may give some info.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Training?
You're G#d D*&m right I'm training! I just hope I don't get stupid, and pull somethin'...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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left side of the airstream slab?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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isn't this thing down by syncopation?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Brad looks like he's having a great training session...
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Some of us have been getting pretty serious about our diet...
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Others, not so much...
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Johannsolo
climber
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You got it BVB. This one been done?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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pretty sure it has but can't remember specifics. i know people were getting on it. i remember trying it once and not being able to do it. i think eppi showed it to me. it's got some crimpy black knobs and extremely smeary footholds, right?
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Some secret training at JT
JB TS JA
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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We use that guy in the middle for a hockey goal.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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I knew it was TV Screen, I knew it...
Here's the guy we use for a backstop. (you have to follow along)
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Wow, BeeHay...How come Elvis has a Camel Toe???
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Keep an eye on BeeHay around the women,
Here he is stalking a few
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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I knew it was TV Screen, I knew it...
oh yeah, the last pic was emergency broadcat system. i was talking about the one before that -- down by syncopation. i couldn't do it.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Best watch out girls...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2010 - 02:07am PT
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Was up on Woodson today...looks like you guys topped out on that smooth arete problem / Epi creation on the inside of the Painted Boulder switch-back, for I saw chalk to the top. Stopped there myself and pulled it off twice out of a total of about TEN tries, ugh! My tips are sensitive just typing this! I smacked my leg/kneecap about four times just trying to get off the ground, sheesh! My toe hurts like the dickens but am able to edge okay. Back step with the left foot and cracks, forget it! Day of rest then back up there on Sunday!
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Bobby Brown arete.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Yes, 'tusi, they did run. They always do.
BH
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2010 - 05:04am PT
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That small boulder on the inside of the Painted Boulder switch-back is the Bobby Brown arete Brad? Is that indeed a Epi creation?
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Johannsolo
climber
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Any info on this one? The dike on the same boulder as Shawn's Knobs. It faces the road is very obvious when walking by that switchback. Mike's topo lables this the Eppulator but I've seen posts that that problem is the steep pinchy traverse with the dyno at the end around the back.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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I should've used a ?, I was guessing. BH
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Just foolin' around with a new Gif Animator Brad...You should see the one of The Fish...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Any info on this one? The dike on the same boulder as Shawn's Knobs. It faces the road is very obvious when walking by that switchback. Mike's topo lables this the Eppulator but I've seen posts that that problem is the steep pinchy traverse with the dyno at the end around the back.
the dike facing the road on the west side is eppicenter, B1. the steep pinchy traverse with the dyno facing shawn's knobs, hell i don't think that thing ever had a name but it's B1 as well.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Duuude, you just made post 420.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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bing!
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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I dug out some gear. I have two pairs of lace up scarpas. One pair is black and purple and the other pair is black and green. I remember doing Excelsior in the green ones. Those things a damn tight. I don't think I can keep them on for more than a few minutes now. haha
Has chalk changed at all? I still have some bags of that metolius chalk that came in the white bags. Tomorrow at woodson should be comedy.
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Someone called for more pictures...
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Johannsolo
climber
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This is the layback I mentioned down by the fireroad just before the hairpin. We did it today but I would assume has been done before.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2010 - 11:17pm PT
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That looks like a cool gem you found Johnny! I don't know of it.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 10, 2010 - 01:04am PT
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yeah -- that thing looks swank. i've never, ever seen it before, or heard of it. might be an f.a. dude.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Jan 10, 2010 - 01:07am PT
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crisp layback
and nice pix Crusher
I can't believe the floatability of this thread. ID has really kept this going.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 10, 2010 - 01:15am PT
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where exactly is it? is it visible from the road on the way to the Y cracks?
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 10, 2010 - 01:30am PT
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Off the dirt road on the left just before the switchback where the fireroad heads North. It is on a boulder behind the 30' high triangular boulder with a right to left leaning crack on the side that faces the paved road down in the gully below Seminar wall.
Sorry but a little blurry.
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Jan 10, 2010 - 01:37am PT
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Rick would know if he or lydia did it. I remember when Lydia was trying to get a first ascent there and the both of them were spending time in that area. I know where you are talking about. The mountain bike trail goes up that fire road and makes a right turn north. There is a trail that heads west at the turn.
If it is a F.A. Congrat's!!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2010 - 02:09am PT
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Way cool undulating face for the feet!
Hey, I am nothing, I just came up with an idea and you guys ran with it. If it wasn't for you this thread'd be nowhere!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2010 - 02:34am PT
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Santee Boulders sunset today...
Taken with my Blackberry Storm
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 10, 2010 - 10:32am PT
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Yeah Gary, sunset last night was spectacular. I was helping with dinner, and bailed to watch it develop, pretty to say the least. You going up to Woodson today? Henny is going, I won't be able to make it, some other stuff has come up I have to tend to. Have fun if you go and keep this thread going, it's gonna be a great time in March!
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2010 - 02:37pm PT
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I WAS goin but things came up as well as I am in Vegas as I write this stopping for lunch, pick up sister from airport then down to Golden Valley AZ to spend time with my Dad, Bro and Sisters till Wed. I'm pretty ripped from bouldering and need the days off to heal, especcially my toe! I'll be back on Wednesday.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2010 - 05:08pm PT
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Okay, sister wants to stop at a casino...imagine that!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 10, 2010 - 05:26pm PT
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Ha! Spend a few bucks on the gambling, WIN BIG!
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2010 - 10:14pm PT
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Bump
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 10, 2010 - 10:43pm PT
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this thread needs more woodson climbing pics. get busy!
does bouldering get much better than this?
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Jan 10, 2010 - 11:02pm PT
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How 'bout we start at the bottom, work our way up...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 10, 2010 - 11:24pm PT
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bad scan ofthe crux on vice-principal's office
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Jan 11, 2010 - 12:05am PT
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Today Henny getting the onsight solo of Hard as nails. I think it used to be rated 5.11c
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Jan 11, 2010 - 12:08am PT
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Uncertainity principle
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Jan 11, 2010 - 12:14am PT
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It was good to see Hensel today. Damn, that old man can still crank it out. It's been 14 years since I last climbed. All I did was climb the 10.a and 5.7 on tower 2. hahaha Even those climbs felt hard!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2010 - 01:22am PT
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Wow, I'm not worthy! I've always thought of soloing Hard As Nails but never committed. Now Henny solos it on-sight?! Impressive! What a great route though to hear of such an ascent. I call it 11b only for the starting sequence. Good job guys and great pictures!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 11, 2010 - 01:26am PT
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Fun day, it was good to see old friends again for the first time in about 15 years. It ended up almost perfect late in the afternoon. Nice temps, almost too good to be true.
Nice pictures of Chas stylin' the Uncertainty Principle. I like that first one. It's cool how that one picture brings out the holds so well, you can pick out quite a bit of both Uncertainty Principle and Kurtains. Man those things are great! Wish we could see that (sand) 11c (bag) to the left so we could get it wired from the comfort of our armchairs.
I think it used to be rated 5.11c Why is it that any time I can do something everybody immediately downrates it? Bummer.
I can't believe I never went down there before. What an absolutely beautiful thin crack Hard as Nails is.
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Jan 11, 2010 - 01:43am PT
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Henny, I think that sand 11c-12b bag has only had a couple ascents.
After you raced up Kurtins for certin, I thought for sure you were going to give it a go.
I forgot to add your biggest coup of the day! You soloing that wicked hard face on tower 2 so I could get a top rope! Thanks!!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 11, 2010 - 01:46am PT
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Remember Headfirst In the Bushes? Johnny did a public service and chopped the base of that baby out again. It had become an overgown nightmare. You wouldn't have needed to worry about ending up in the bushes because you never would have been able to get through the bushes to try it in the first place.
Has that boulder grown and doubled in height over the years or something? What's up with that? Or maybe my memory has shrunk over the years, who knows.
Edit: Oh yeah, the base of Greg's Face has also been opened up again, so that's now ready and waiting for the shindig.
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Jan 11, 2010 - 02:04am PT
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Man, I still can't get over all the huge pads everybody carries now. I was watching one of the guys trying lemon ciffon and poping off onto a 3'x3'chushy pad. I remember flinging off that greasy knob in the sun and having to dodge the stumps and bushes on impact. Times have certainly changed. haha
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 11, 2010 - 02:16am PT
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Like was said though, if they'd been around BITD everybody would have used 'em... fact, jack.
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Jan 11, 2010 - 02:28am PT
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I agree. Could have saved toes, ankles, knees having those back then.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 11, 2010 - 02:36am PT
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Hey how's Chaz doin'? Haven't seen him in a while, say hi if you guys see him again soon. Is he coming to the thingy in March? Would be good to see him. Sorry I missed you today Darrel, some schit came up, had to stay close to home. See you in March.
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2010 - 02:37pm PT
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Wasn't downgrading your ascent Darrell, was just rating it as I see it. And again, who am I to say, you just soloed it! Most of the crack is a lesson in pain control!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 11, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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It was a tongue in cheek smack talk jab at REIGN 1 for his use of the words "used to be rated". I had to spend the afternoon listening to two smack talkers without having any reinforcement/back-up of my own. My ears were burning by the time the day was over. ha. If that was any indication of what the shindig will be like it could be brutal.
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Jan 11, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
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Henny, You and Powell used to have smack talk game. But you guys ran into pro smack talkers. Your best off just licking your wounds and try to come up with something (or anything) to smack talk about. hahaha
Lucky for you that you still climb pretty good and that speaks enough smack for you right now.
Remember the meadows trip one July. When Bob Hutchingson saw my guide booksitting on a rock and handed it to me saying it must be mine because it only had one tick in it? hahaha
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Jan 11, 2010 - 05:54pm PT
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A man, a hat, a crack; it doesn't get much simpler than this
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
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What to do in Golden Valley AZ?....Absolutely nothing!
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Jan 11, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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Jan 11, 2010 - 06:38pm PT
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Cluck, cluck, cluck...
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Jan 11, 2010 - 06:39pm PT
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Well done, Henny.
What do you think it would be rated at Rubidoux, 5.10a?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 11, 2010 - 06:54pm PT
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Rick, you trying to just stir things up, get me in trouble, or both? It's already hostile enough down there when you're part of a Rubidoux raiding party.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 11, 2010 - 09:07pm PT
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i always considered hard as nails to be stout 11+. i think it's harder than hear my train, which is the 11c benchmark problem at woodson.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 11, 2010 - 11:17pm PT
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REIGN 1
Gym climber
Carlsbad, Ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 12:47am PT
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The train is 11.c?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 02:10am PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. BeeHay aka Brad H.
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. Roger Barnes
86. Dan Hauglestine
87. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
88. Randy Vogel
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elkie Lindner
92. ? Chris Lindner
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Jan 12, 2010 - 02:13am PT
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Gary - thanks for the call, sorry I did not get back to you. I work M-F
8-5 so Friday was impossible and Sunday I was up in LA meeting my cousin's new baby. Keep pinging me though, if you dont mind!!
jg
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 02:18am PT
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Henny, When do you think your going to woodson again? I'll try to make sure I'm out of town so you can climb in peace. The nails 11.a? Sounds about right. Haughelstine is trying to get me to commit to a weekend trip to jacks city? I guess it's some crag out in the middle BFE or something. Supposed to be a confidence building crag? If so I would think Dimes must have climbed there.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 02:28am PT
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Guys, come on, Hard As Nails harder than IHMT? Good Lord no! The start to H.A.N. is a bounce up to a good face hold (RH) to another good edge (LH), then requiring face climbing technique to a crappy/weird, thumbs down/thumb-cam finger jam (LH), which enables you to balance up to your feet on to the same face holds (11b). The crack above, IMHO, is 5.10d/5.11 (with pain) to the top. IHMT is so much more powerful and thin/overhanging at the start. Kids these days are calling it 5.12 but I can't climb 5.12 so I rate it 11c/11d and, I agree, is definitely the benchmark for Woodson 5.11c's.
On that note, for your enjoyment, here's the video I and a friend did in the recent past of IHMT, for those who haven't seen it already on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi9AL8ztOMs
Henny, I'd love to do a video of you on Hard As Nails!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 02:57am PT
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Hey ya'll, let me know (email or here) if you are bringing a friend(s)/family so I can add them to the list and account for them too.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 03:11am PT
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My train is only a couple of power moves to a 5.9 crack. If I remember right woodson has always been rated on the single hardest move of a climb. Nails is different in that it is a technical face crack that sticky rubber made easier. So I'd say I Hear My Train A Comin is solid 11.c, Hard as Nails is right there at 11.c+
Ratings are always subjective. Like if you stack enough pads under a reach problem, it becomes much easier to do the moves. The only thing that matters is if you are having fun.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 03:20am PT
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You might want to add Henny's psychiatrist to the list. Cuz by the time this shindig comes around, he's gonna be needing one! hahaha
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 03:25am PT
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Gosh Donny, you make IHMT sound easy! Good point though, a concensus is definitely the way to rate a climb to account for the subjectiveness. And, as "back-in-the-day" climbers, you and I both know we can't throw in the pad excuse for they didn't exist back then and everything was a standing start off our piece of carpet, lol! Good to hear that you and Dan are going to be there. It'll bring back great memories seeing you guys. Thanks again.
P.S. Henny's psychiatrist added. Btw, Troy Wold from Ramona says "Hi"! Didn't Troy say that you're riding bikes, as he is now, as well?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 12, 2010 - 03:53am PT
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I think there could be differences of opinion as to the rating of Hard as Nails depending on whether one started it static or dynamic. A static start is the crux (obvious).
Dude (Donny), my shrink is already on the list. Didn't you see his name? Dimes. And you wonder why I'm crazy.
You seem a little confused, maybe he could fit you into his schedule... couldn't hurt...
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 12, 2010 - 09:42am PT
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"The start to H.A.N. is a bounce up to a good face hold (RH)"???
Not the way to start. As Henny states, the crux is pulling on statically. Bouncing is a taint in my book and avoids the hardest move. It's all about style.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 10:23am PT
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Yup, just a quick "pop" off the ground to my right hand, "voila" done! Yeah, I teach static moves over dynamic but as you know Johnny in some instances the section of rock is void of holds and dynamics are required to overcome that section. Or, dynamics is a more efficient way of climbing. Sure, there may be a static sequence but why if you can get through that section much quicker by a dynamic move, bragging rights? For some of us, that can't pull off those "phenom" moves, we have to do something if we're ever going to get a chance to experience what is above, ie; bounce, jump, dyno, tree standing/shoulder standing, hangdogging, rap inspection, inspecting the topout prior, stacking pads (this is one I won't do), and cheatstones, ie; Go With The Flow. I've done, and will do, all these things in order to experience the route. I'm sure you would frown on what it took me to eventually get My Train but that's okay too for all I wanted was to be like you guys a bit too early in my ability level. Eventually most of these antics, as I learn the techniques, are eliminated but often I never get that good. I'll have to hang around you guys a bit more to let some of "that" rub off on me, haha!
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 12, 2010 - 11:37am PT
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I have no problem with dynamic moves on a climb or jump starts when there are no holds. There are holds to start statically on H.A.N, it just makes the climb harder. We pretty much need to invalidate your rating as you avoid one of if not the hardest move. Also, no difference between jumping to holds and stepping off stacked pads. Either way, you are only cheating yourself.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 12, 2010 - 12:01pm PT
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pretty sure i did a little hop on the start of hard as nails...nailing that thing totally static is the kind of sw0le stuff that only a henny can do.
no pads though, and i'm sure even 4 or 5 inces of foam boost could make a pretty bid difference on that rig.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 12, 2010 - 01:30pm PT
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There are two valid ratings for it, whatever they are. The one used is a personal choice and if happy with it, great. For me anything dynamic seemed a personal admission of not being able to do the hard opening move, which was obviously doable. Pretty much that simple.
I think where caution can be exercised is in saying a problem is only the easier rating, without acknowledging the alternative or knowing how it was done. The harder start is just as valid.
Preferring the harder start because of the challenge, and then rating it accurately, doesn't neccessarily have anything to do with pride.
I'll restate this: Hard as Nails is an absolutely beautiful thin crack.
Too bad it has to have a rating.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jan 12, 2010 - 01:41pm PT
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Too bad it has to have a rating.
This is true of many things in life.
One of the benefits of not running an 8a.nu scorecard, is that I don't care what the number is for some particular bouldering sequence.
I did HMT so long ago that I can barely remember it. I don't think I ever even saw that HAN deal, but it looks cool.
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
OR
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Jan 12, 2010 - 02:02pm PT
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Even in a competition, ratings don't really matter. Like most quantifications, they seldom tell the real story.
In the early days at Woodson, Bros, ratings took last place and fun took first.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 02:08pm PT
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Henny did hard as nails as clean as I've ever seen it done. The rating thing between me and him is a running joke from way back.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 12, 2010 - 02:39pm PT
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In the early days at Woodson, Bros, ratings took last place and fun took first. true dat. still true, i think. ratings are little more than a goofy sideshow. woodson probs rock domes, regardless of the rating.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 12, 2010 - 03:02pm PT
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A goofy sideshow. Yes.
I'd like to be done with the Hard as Nails rating discussion. On the bottom line who cares how hard it is, or how hard someone else thinks it is. Number talk has started to ruin my buzz. It should be about a beautiful thin crack, Woodson, and fun times. End of that story.
Now... Let's take this thread somewhere else, eh? How about some more pictures?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 12, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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BVB, you gotta remember that back in the day we were soloing everything and calling it .10c...Even Driving South...(Oh and I did notice your soloing shot of Lie Detector...What would that be then? .11a?)
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 12, 2010 - 03:30pm PT
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henny, i'm blown away you never saw hard as nails before this weekend. what other gems have you missed out on!?
and you did it on sight...uh-oh. oh my. ummmm, er, i may have to bow out of this whole debacle to avoid terminal humiliation at the hands of the roubdouxiers!~
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 12, 2010 - 04:20pm PT
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Don't you dare bow out. I'm hoping you'll do more than one day, regardless of how hard you climb the first/second day because I still don't think I can make Saturday.
I've missed plenty of gems, without doubt. The Sail, Starface, PhD, ..., need I go on? I hope to work a few of them off. I wish I would have done more when I lived closer, it's an effort to get there now from Bishop.
This thread has rekindled my interest in Woodson. The stuff is just so good. In my book it may be the best bouldering/toproping area in SoCal.
Edit: Gary, Looking Sketchy There (#14) = Randy Vogel (#88).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 04:32pm PT
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Hey Darrell, uhemm...thought your finger was healing from a tendon injury?:
From: Darrell Hensel
Sent: Mon 12/28/09 1:41 AM
"I'm currently running a ligament injury to a finger which will probably severely limit the amount of thin cracks I can do."
And then he solos Hard As Nails on a ligament injury?! I smell a mole!
P.S. Got the correction Darrell, thanks.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 04:37pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8. Salad (post climb party)
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. BeeHay aka Brad H.
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. ? looking sketchy there
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. Roger Barnes
86. Dan Hauglestine
87. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
88. Daphne
89-90. ? Tom and Elkie Lindner
91. ? Chris Lindner
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 12, 2010 - 04:51pm PT
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I believe I also mentioned something about exercising some self control to stay off cracks. Obviously I have none! See how magnetic HAN is? Haha.
Look at the pic of HAN, you can see the tape on my left ring finger. Those who were there heard a bunch of whining about a thumbs up left hand finger lock about half way up. Unfortunately that got me no sympathy, only a bunch of smack talk.
Thumb down, not bad. Thumb up, not so good. Face climbing, no problem at all. Just do what you can.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 07:32pm PT
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Henny, Next time I meet you up there, I'll just try to keep you on the wide cracks and low angle faces. We have to hit up the sail. I think that is about the only route I've put up that you haven't repeated.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 07:43pm PT
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All right, I've got a question/offer...Darrell, have you tried/done Mother Superior? If not, want to hit it? If it's old news to you then I've been wanting to lead it. Would you belay and be my motivator? Johnny, Chas, want to work it if you haven't already?
From an article in Mountain Magazine, Issue #106, Mike Geller demonstrates the Leavitation technique on Mother Superior, Mt. Woodson (from http://www.widefetish.com);.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 08:42pm PT
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I wouldn't mind trying mother superior.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 12, 2010 - 08:46pm PT
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It's a good one!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 08:49pm PT
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Donny, you've tried/done MS, no? The more the merrier for I've been petering out lately on it. My guns fail doing the crux face move near the top. Just humbles me and reminds me that I'm carrying a bit more weight than I use to. I get back in S.D. tomorrow evening and will get myself back in "training mode". Hopefully, we all can meet up there for a bit of humble pie!
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 08:54pm PT
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I've done it a bunch. As far as I know there are 3 exits to topping out. The V cracks and going to the right over the bulge. It's a fun lead but you are prety much soloing the thing with that slab right there.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2010 - 09:43pm PT
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Hey, what ever happened to Mike Geller? And what about the Hatchett brothers? Is anyone in touch with them and can let them know about this thing? How about you Donny, who else was up there kickin' around back then that isn't already on the list? Btw, the comment I made earlier on Troy Wold, you do know him correct? Troy and Marty?
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 12, 2010 - 10:14pm PT
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Here's a couple of the Sail. Amazing rock formation with picturesque views. Any history/route info on this one? I'll probably hold off on MS till after I do more of the "easier" cracks. Hell, I haven't even done Robbin's crack. Just trying to work my way around the hill and put in my time. Also, you only get one shot at the onsight.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 10:27pm PT
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Add aging local Ron Amick to the list, and pencil me in for bringing a case of beer and the grit n fortitude to get it drank.
Crash pads must be checked at the base of the hill, and any liberty ovals or slung hexes will be confiscated and the owners name put on a dept of obsolescence watch list.
heres an idea... an under30 wimmens stemming competition? could add a bright spot to a day fulla codgers who all climb better n me.
I may seem disgrunteled, but are we ever truly grunteled? Do we even want to be? And how does this tie into al gores global warming deal? We will explore this and the impact of little chocolate donuts on atmospheric carbon levels. Please do your part by not exhaling. Thank you.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 12, 2010 - 10:38pm PT
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Very cool. I was about to ask if anyone had pictures of the Sail, and presto, they appear. Johnny, I think Donny said he put up a problem there so he should know the history. So, whats the story? More than one problem? Is the right side an arete or just rounding of the face? Hard to tell from that second picture (and I assume that's the business problem). The first pic sure has a nice feel to it. Dang, dang, dang! I already need to go back up there!
bvb, any thoughts on other classic gems? Maybe some that are off the beaten path a little.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 12, 2010 - 10:52pm PT
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Dang Gary, looking like it's gonna be a great weekend. You Still need my help??? I told you this would get outa control on it's own!
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 12:17am PT
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Ron Gomez...When Vertical Hold gets back to me I think I'm going to need a confirmed name(s) of those that will be putting on the slide show(s). If you could provide me a "back-in-the-day" name(s) via email, that'd help. What do you think about keeping at least one of the presenters identity a surprise until we arrive at the gym Friday night?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 12:19am PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8.1 Salad
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. BeeHay aka Brad H.
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. looking sketchy there aka Randy Vogel
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping At Same Site Still Available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. Roger Barnes
86. Dan Hauglestine
87. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
88. Daphne
89-90. ? Tom and Elkie Lindner
91. ? Chris Lindner
92. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 12:23am PT
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Ron, I just saw your thread "san diego fossils n glory day remnants" and left you a comment to come to this site to have your name put on the list, then came back to this thread and voila, there you are, imagine that!
P.S. I added you to the masses.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Jan 13, 2010 - 12:29am PT
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So Gary, been out of town. Have you nailed the logistics ? If you need a location for party or people let me know. Peace, lynne
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 12:51am PT
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Lynne, tentatively you are the highest bidder and have the best and biggest party accommodations unless someone outbids you (figuratively speaking). You said approx. (125) people for a party correct? And can you accommodate overnight campers post climb slide show, Friday, 19th and post climb party on Saturday, 20th on your property if they chose to? If so, which day(s) and how many tents? Why don't you post this information on this thread for everyone to see and email the same and the directions to your place to me if you would. Thanks so much for your help!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 13, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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Woohoo! Party at Lynne's csn we sleep in the yard?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 01:05am PT
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Henny, did you already look at Victim of Aids or Aids Victim, 5.12, on the Sunday Afternoon Boulder at the bottom of the hill just above the gate on the left? You already mentioned Phd at the summit, you have to get on this! How about Fall Semester right across the wash/brush, south, from Phd? More of a desperate pumpy ramp/seam than a face climb but I think would fit you well. Here's a picture of Fall Semester, 5.11c:
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Jan 13, 2010 - 01:09am PT
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Jaybro, sites already reserved here for the Bezerkely and No Calers.
For others I have some room, but if people are really serious about staying here they need to email me before February 10th. Need to make parking area arrangements etc. Glad to have everyone, but need to make it happen in a good way. Peace, lynne
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 13, 2010 - 02:42am PT
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Illusion, I know Troy and Marty but I haven't seen those guys in 20 years.
The sail had three routes on the face the left arete, center and right side. There is two sets of bolts on the top. If you climb up the left backside to set up a tr, the bolts you come to first are for spellbinder and the other bolt is for the center route. Henny will be trying the right side route. Another good slab route is on the huge boulder you walk by on the way to fall semester. The start is probably the crux but you have to stay on your game because it's not over till it's over. It's called 'Joni after school'. The same guys that put that route up also put up the two leads that you get to by walking past fall semester. If I remember right, One had 7 bolts and the other had 5? Pretty good leads for slab climbing.
Does anybody ever do that thin seam on the boulder next to jaws anymore? That little thing was really good.
I'll probably think of problems the more time I spend up there.
P.S. Are the Hatchet Bros making big mountain snowboard films? I thought I saw Dave's name in the credits in a film I saw.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 10:17am PT
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Troy is still in Ramona and have seen him up on Woodson with a friend/b.i.t.d. climber named Keith (about Troy's age), you may know him as well. Apparently they work laying tile, etc. in construction together. Although, Troy has suddenly dropped off the map and isn't returning phone calls. I'm trying to get his butt up the mountain for this as well. He's taken up riding motorcycles, with crazy stories of him still busting up his body at fifty something years old! I thought he mentioned something about you involved in MC's as well? Something happened to Marty, head injury? or something, but apparently is still kickin' as well. I don't recall where Troy said he is now.
Now you're talking Don! I've been waiting for someone else to mention those slabs past Fall Semester for years! I recall watching Epi on it way back when after it was first put up. I think I recall him saying, " I haven't been on something like this since the Apron!" I never got a chance to get on it but I remember it being a steep slab with about about 5-7 bolts (yep, five to seven bolts on Woodson!) that arched up and right, another Woodson 11c if I recall. I've tried to find that thing a number of times since then but keep getting choked out by manzanita. I don't know what else to do! I know if Johnny finds it he'll do an awesome job clearing a way to that thing for the Shindig! And, while they're down on that ridge, someone has to show these guys Vice Principals Office, for with their motivation, have a path cleared to it too!
Btw, the foilage around that thin seam next to Jaws has been groomed, cleared out and pampered by Johnny and crew. I have to admit, I haven't seen it that clean and tidy ever! They did a good job. I told Johnny that I got an ascent, I'll call it by accident for I'm not that good, one day while alone way back when. Everything must have come together that afternoon. Johnny definitely has his eye on it though! ("Johnny", how many times have I mentioned his name? Sheesh!)
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 13, 2010 - 11:05am PT
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The seam next to Jaws, I would die for you, is really good but very sharp. I'm getting pretty close to sending that one. Looks like the left foot hold to start has broke but still a small edge to back step on. Anyone know about the face left of Mighty Edge and the left arete? Kind of bigger T.V screen but harder. Just down and right of the hairpin by Shaun's Knobs(toward Hwy 67). We chopped it out and that face is clearly visible now from the Jaws area.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 11:13am PT
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So, heading down the hill it'd be on the right toward 67 correct? Heading uphill it'd be on the left.
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 13, 2010 - 11:47am PT
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Yes, down a dirt path for maybe 60 feet South of the hairpin and look to the right.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 13, 2010 - 12:11pm PT
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I would die for you, I loved that problem. I doubt any foot holds have broke on that one. here weren't really any to begin with. hahaha
I remember one foot hold was a sucker hold and the one to use was just about the thickness of a credit card..
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 13, 2010 - 12:27pm PT
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ok, The Sail just went high on the list. Looks and sounds good. Donny, did you put those problems up?
Gary, unfortunately I have done two of the three problems you mentioned. Eppy took me down for some schoolin' on Fall Semester once. I remember that one being pumpy. Eppy also took me to Aids Victim. I remember that one being super good. Managed to on-sight it, then came back a few years later and was almost clueless.
I was wondering what else was down by Fall Semester. I've only been down there the one time with Eppy and don't remember much of anything about the area. Bolted routes make it sound like big boulders, is everything in that area big? New potential?
(Gary - I'd be willing to lend a hand and belay on MS)
Edit: 'Joni after school' is a toprope?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 12:44pm PT
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Yep, things are big down there! Phd is about a 50' flake/face as you saw Piggot on it earlier in the thread or did you? Looks like Donny will be able to locate those 5-7 bolt problems down the ridge from Fall Semester.
Here's Rick again from where he took his 40' ground fall and walked away from it but this time setting up on hooks for hand drilling...
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 13, 2010 - 12:57pm PT
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I did see the picture of Phd earlier up thread which was why I didn't ask much about it. Looks brilliant.
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 13, 2010 - 02:07pm PT
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Not Big Ugly. The face I'm refering to faces East. I pointed it out to Donny from Uncertainty Principle who said he did the right arete (Mighty Edge?). The face and left arete would be very hard if climbable at all.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 13, 2010 - 02:48pm PT
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Yeah "I would die for you" is cool! First done back in the day by Dick Cilley. A photo of me on it(by epps)was actually on a T-Shirt for one of those contests BITD.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 03:04pm PT
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Wow, nice bit of history Mike, thanks!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2010 - 03:05pm PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8.1 Salad
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. BeeHay aka Brad H.
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. looking sketchy there aka Randy Vogel
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David (no-show)
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping At Same Site Still Available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. Roger Barnes
86. Dan Hauglestine
87. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
88. Daphne
89-90. ? Tom and Elkie Lindner
91. ? Chris Lindner
92. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
93. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
94. Graham N
95. Dr. F
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Jan 13, 2010 - 05:11pm PT
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holy cripes, people. Whatever you do, watch out for the damn poison oak! Was out there on Sunday and now my right leg is breaking out. Many thanks to those of you chopping out some of the overgrown areas, even while putting yourselves in harm's way!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 13, 2010 - 06:04pm PT
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Yeah careful when you're out there bushwacking people...You just never know what you're gonna run into...
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Graham N
Social climber
temecula
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Jan 13, 2010 - 07:36pm PT
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ill be there, not that anyone would know me. haha. maybe ill handle some of the PO whacking since that stuff doesnt really make me break out too bad.
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Dave Tapes
Trad climber
Silverado CA
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Jan 13, 2010 - 08:21pm PT
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I haven't been on the Super Taco for months.
So as I wondered if there was some kind of gathering coming up, click click and I find this.
Can't wait, I'll be there.
Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 13, 2010 - 09:37pm PT
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YEAH Dave!!!!! Great to hear from you and man I can't wait to see you. Gonna be some slandering and bantering going on....Henny and Dimes gonna be there so what else would you expect. You'll be getting an email from me soon, I'm gonna be trying to get all the regular old timers out to this event. That NOW includes YOU!
Peace
say hey to Jen
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 14, 2010 - 01:10am PT
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Same as it ever was...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 14, 2010 - 11:39am PT
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having had some time to reflect on this (a guy in his 50's walking up to hard as nails and firing it off on sight and ropeless), i've decided henny is my new hero.
sorry, kevin.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 14, 2010 - 02:44pm PT
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Hensel is only in his 50's? Damn I thought he and Powell were way older than that..hahaha
That guy still has it. I'm heading up to woodson right now to meet up with darrel to try and beat him down on some of my creations.
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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Jan 14, 2010 - 02:50pm PT
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Ahem...I say again, chicken worship is wrong.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 14, 2010 - 03:08pm PT
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haul his ass down to the vice-principal's office for a proper woodsonian paddling.
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mdavid
Big Wall climber
CA, CO, TX
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Jan 14, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
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Cora and I aren't going to make it.
We've caught the cave diving bug...and there's no way i'm paying to come to san diego when i could go to tulum and dive sac actun.....
Here we are diving Actun Ha after getting our first cave cards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBrls2HZL4g
definitely going back in march...heck i'm all for moving there as soon as my daughter is in college!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2010 - 04:19pm PT
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Dr. F, Here's the description/vision from the first page:
This should be better/cooler (temp) than the last! The date is set: March 19, 20, 21, 2010 up at Mt. Woodson. Come one, come all, young and old, local and far off. Yet, also looking for those that attended the last shindig in '07 and those that attended the contest in 1986 and 1990! This should be a historic event for Woodson's history and a chance for the young and old to come together and enjoy what we all can't seem to get enough of! Plans include: guest appearances, both from the past and present, product giveaways and booths, along with post climb slideshows and party over a three day weekend!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2010 - 06:10pm PT
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Griffith was there in '86. You had a five minute time limit to do the problem and could fall off as many number of times as you wanted as long as you still had time on the clock. If your time ran out and you were on the rock you could still receive points if you completed it.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 14, 2010 - 06:48pm PT
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dab.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 14, 2010 - 06:50pm PT
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See...That was the one where Christian failed on, "&%#$&!@," after which the rest of us, that were ahead of him, settled for the four way tie for second place, assuring him third...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2010 - 07:22pm PT
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I don't understand...if he completed the prob in the alloted time limit what's the contention?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 14, 2010 - 09:51pm PT
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that 5.10a on the outside has spanked more than one 5.13 sport weenie.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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I was in the Open Division and that's what was set up for us. I can't speak for the Stonemaster or Elite Division, whatever it was called in the '86 contest, for they had a specific circuit that they had set up for them. Watusi aka Mike Paul should be able to clear this up for he was a contender.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 15, 2010 - 12:44am PT
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10a on the outside was problem #2 in the stonemaster division. korean cowboy might have been #1? details are fuzzy.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 12:50am PT
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You know Bob, Eppy said pretty much the same thing to me when I ran into him on the road coming down the mountain there at Robbin's Boulder with about 15 minutes to go in the '86 contest. I had one slot left on my scorecard and couldn't decide what problem or strategy to use when he said, "Why don't you try 5.10a On The Outside? I saw you do it the other day when I saw you last. It gave the elite guys a run for their money today!" So, I ran over to it, saw the TR in situ with no judge/belayer, then ran over to the judges table to inform them. They told me to recruit the first person I could find then ran over to tie in. It must fit my anatomy or something for I ticked it again for my last score. I ended up being beat out for fourth place and received a set of HB nuts for fifth.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8.1 Salad
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. BeeHay aka Brad H.
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. Randy Vogel
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David (can't attend)
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. ? Roger Barnes
86. Dan Hauglestine
87. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
88. Daphne
89-90. ? Tom and Elkie Lindner
91. ? Chris Lindner
92. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
93. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
94. Graham N
95. Dr. F
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 15, 2010 - 02:31am PT
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I've been racking my noodle over this one but some stuff is coming back to me...The stonemaster group at the beginning of the contest was told "You guys better get going, Ron's been up there now for almost an hour." After which we all went together, trying to spur each other on in an attempt to at least bridge the gap that Ron had on us. We were all climbing fairly well, and getting through the requisite problems, up until the point where Christian seemed to be having some difficulty with "5.10a on the Outside" and we were there trying to cheer him on...All I remember, (whether or not it was number of attempts, I thought 5, or the 5 minute thing is unclear,)was that Christian began cursing and the like and myself, Rob Raker, Neil Cannon, and John Bercau elected to continue as it appeared that our presence was unintentionally irritating Christian. We were only to find out a bit later that he had failed on it and we were sure of the second place tie (which I suggested,) saying "why don't we all just take the tie" securing the third place spot for Christian, and just leaving the horde behind for some friendly bouldering. Everyone else agreed and the rest is history...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 02:32am PT
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bump
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 15, 2010 - 02:33am PT
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I met henny at woodson today. He said his finger tips were so worn that he could hardly climb out of bed this morning. We went up to the sail and he did the center route. Then we went down to do joni after school. That route hasn't seen any ascents in quite a while. Henny pulled the dicy crux move and was headed for the anchor when the crusty crap covering the holds finally spit him off. After that we walked down and checked out PHD. That route still looks good. We had a good time and mostly talked about all the good climbing trips we did years ago.
BVB, I couldn't talk him into trying mother superior. There's no way in hell I could talk him into trying vice principles office. haha
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 02:44am PT
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Well, I'm back home in Spring Valley after 453 miles of driving yesterday, ugh! My toe is feeling better but I know it's not ready for any serious crack climbing. Mother Superior is mostly right leg in the crack until the transition out of the crack onto the face out right. I think I can manage through that. When are you guys going back up there next Donny? Leave me an email if you would for I'm probably up for this weekend sometime.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 15, 2010 - 02:53am PT
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Henny said he wasn't coming back for a few weeks. I think his pride needs soothing after todays fiasco. I don't know excatly when I'll be ready to head back up. I need to loose some tonage and buy more comfortable shoes before I can actually climb. But I can belay really good right now. haha
I will let you know the next time I'm heading up there.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 03:12am PT
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That's what I'm in need of...a belay slave! There's a really strong guy named Andrew that's been wanting to lead M.S. as well. He's more than likely apt to succeed on it than I am. I think I'll contact him as well and see if I can't get him up there this weekend. Wanna tag along anyway Donny? Maybe you can help video or take pics! I'll leave my cell # in your email on this.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 15, 2010 - 03:18am PT
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If you go up on sunday I don't think I'll make it. Got the phoenix supercross on TV and the Chargers are going to be killing the jets in the afternoon. Got a mountain bike race on saturday to deal with in the morning and jetski practice in the afternoon. So I think I'm busy this weekend LOL
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 15, 2010 - 04:59am PT
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GO CHARGERS!!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 15, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
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Watusi, that (re: the contest and 10a On the Outside) sounds pretty close to what I remember the story being.
haul his ass down to the vice-principal's office for a proper woodsonian paddling.
Whoa! I can feel the love just oozing out of that statement! hahaha. Good one bvb! That is undoubtedly just what would happen, which is why I won't get near it. Gotta choose my ground a little more carefully than that.
Hey REIGN 1, I may be old but at least I can still manage to get up while it's still light outside. Dang, while I was waiting for a certain grandpa to show I thought it was going to get dark before we even started.
Is it just me? Woodson is currently trashing my tips pretty good each time I'm there. Not sure if I remember that always being the case or not. Probably the same as it ever was though.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 15, 2010 - 03:48pm PT
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I know I'm out of shape. Wait a minute, round is a shape! I think the biggest problem after being to fat is my shoes are 5 sizes to small. I'll be sporting a new pair next time I head up that hill.
It's just you. My tips felt fine after yesterdays climbing.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 05:27pm PT
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Whoa, I just remembered...Darrell, did Piggot or anyone else ever take you up to Firefly? It's up and over the west side of the summit, due north of The Ogre. Now that looks like one that has your name all over it! A technical face traverse into a finger crack to the top, 5.11+ if I recall correctly. I remember Rick taking me to it, setting up the TR then allowing me the opportunity to give it a go first. How nice of him. I remember having a heck of a time getting started and bailed soon after. After hangdogging for a while Rick said, "Are you through yet?" I got the hint and asked to be lowered. The Man proceeded to cruise the face/traverse and methodically cranked to the anchors.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 15, 2010 - 05:35pm PT
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good call gary. forgot about firefly. uber-classic. all kidding aside henny, speaking strictly from pride of place, it's a woodson showpiece. just completely perfect, on woodson's best rock. back in the day it was never done ropeless, but with a bunch of pads it'd be reasonable.
edit: i don't think i did it more than a handful of times, and i never had much trouble doing it, but i do remember it always felt hard -- right at my first-try limit. i probably fell on it a few times but have memorexed that part out.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 05:49pm PT
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Gosh, Bob, another...What about Cast of a Thousand Stones on the front side of the Chimney Rock (right hand side of the road) before Big Grunt? Big stack of cheatstones, up to underclinging a fat, dirty flake then traversing right out on a tips seam for about 20 feet then escaping straight up to a broken section above. Word has it that the cheatstone start to this creation was created while Rick was recovering from a fractured arm with a cast in place, hence the name. I self belayed myself to recon that thing way b.i.t.d. and laughed when I refused to believe that it was doable!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 05:55pm PT
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Or, how about this story...
Fade to Black on the Atom Ant boulder:
This unclimbable looking seam was freed back in the 90's. "Rick rated it 5.12d but its more likely in the 13's. Rick is the master!", says Troy W. of Ramona, CA.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 15, 2010 - 05:58pm PT
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yeah that thing was a "last great problem" for years. short, right on the road, hennybait for sure.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 06:05pm PT
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And of course, I have to highlight these again for what else can I say...
Lady's and Gentleman, boys and girls...introducing once again,
Bob Van Belle and Rick Piggot on...Undertow!
"That be me, burning my one and only solo lap on that thing. Scaaaaary. To my knowledge, Tom Lindner and Piggot are the only two guys who've done it straight-in as an offwidth. That is to say, they're the only two guys who've lead it. If you undercling it, you're either tr'ing or soloing".....BVB
"Another legendary California mystery hardman from the 70's and 80's, Rick's gig was soloing Woodson 5.12's and El Cap spook routes. Here's Rick leading the massive Undertow Roof at Mt. Woodson, circa mid 80's. Like many Woodson rarities and obscurities, it's likely this route has not seen a chalk mark in 15 years." - BVB
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 15, 2010 - 06:10pm PT
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I belayed Rick on the route right of reach for a peach chimney. The stones were the only way to get a jam at the start. Solid woodson 5.12 route. I showed it to Darrel yesterday as we walked down. Firefly is a really good route. I also belayed Rick the first time he led undertow. I was more scared than he was. I figured if he flung off my skull would be crushed sitting at the start of the climb. That thing was tricky as an offwith. I tried a few times with Rick coaching.
How come in the pic of BVB on it the caption reads 5.11-? I thought it was f-n hard as an undercling. I made it once and never had to see that rock again. haha
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 06:15pm PT
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Hey Donny/Bob,
What's the name of the smooth, fat arete down there on the left half of Chimney Rock? Is that a Mike Paul FA?
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 15, 2010 - 06:25pm PT
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I need a better description. Do you mean chimney rock with reach for a peach? or the big grunt chimney? Who's Mike Paul? (ducking and running)LOL
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 07:01pm PT
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On Chimney Rock....down below as you descend to the downhill side of the boulder you first encounter the left half of the chimney which has a smooth arete which you slap/layback up. It goes at 11b'ish. I remember watching Mike trying it when I arrived to give him some verbal encouragement. Right then, he came off, lowered to the ground walked up to me putting his finger in my chest and said, "You're next!" Quivering in my boots, I obliged and came off myself. Nothing personal Mike, just recalling memories as youngsters!
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Jan 15, 2010 - 07:06pm PT
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speaking of burly underclings, who here has done the Silk Banana? That thing's kind of strenuous, no?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Jan 15, 2010 - 07:11pm PT
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BVB
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 15, 2010 - 07:13pm PT
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what is this silk bananna of which you speak?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 15, 2010 - 07:17pm PT
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How odd... You guys are talking about all these offwidths and such, postin' up pics, and I see the pics but for the life of me I can't see any climbs in them. How odd...
okay, just kiddin...
Keep it coming guys, you're on a roll. Good stuff.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2010 - 07:18pm PT
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You said the wrong/right words Gonzo, lol! Show more, show more Bob!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 15, 2010 - 09:59pm PT
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Still breathin' Craig...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 15, 2010 - 10:33pm PT
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he was a wee tyke, but mighty...all up on it back in tha muthafukkin' day.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2010 - 05:46am PT
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Come on Watusi, tell us a Woodson tale!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 17, 2010 - 01:39am PT
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Steve Smelser and I were in josh on a truly wretched cold windy f-ed up weekend in the 80's once. I saw that 'tusi and wanted to ask him about that woodson place he had mentioned.
"Oh yeah that would be the place to be now. Did i ever show you the topos and maps I drew for it? Oh wait, I've got some xeroxes in the rig..."
He comes back and hands me a bunch of papers and writes down some more directions.
That was the key to new adventure, we were out of there in minutes on our way to a whole new world; Robbins, crucible, onsight of mother superior, all unlooked for when we split Phx the night before....
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2010 - 02:26am PT
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Today on Mighty Edge...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2010 - 03:48am PT
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bump
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2010 - 03:52am PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8.1 Salad
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. BeeHay aka Brad H.
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. Randy Vogel
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David (can't attend)
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris (surfer)
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. ? Roger Barnes
86. Dan Hauglestine
87. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
88. Daphne
89-90. ? Tom and Elkie Lindner
91. ? Chris Lindner
92. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
93. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
94. Graham N
95. Dr. F
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2010 - 04:06am PT
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I found this on Flickr...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 17, 2010 - 05:02pm PT
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damn that's a nice pic. first thing i though was photoshop. could it be real?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2010 - 06:23pm PT
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Bob, thought the same thing but apparently it's a Valley "phenomenon"...
Horsetail Falls in Yosemite National Park. This effect only takes place during the last two weeks in February. Taken on February 19th, 2009....
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 17, 2010 - 07:01pm PT
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Yeah that's really pretty for sure!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 17, 2010 - 07:12pm PT
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SO MIKE you in on this Woodson shindig????? It wouldn't be right NOT to have you there!!!! I'd like to put you in for a slide presentation, lordy knows, you KNOW this place. Whada ya say!!!??? Check yer email brother!
Peace
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:00pm PT
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Another great weekend at Woodson. Head first in the Bushes is a very good slab and hard(V5ish), I think definately harder than 11+(V3). I would die for you is also very good. Both took many tries.
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:13pm PT
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T.V screen center. Work in progress.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 18, 2010 - 01:53pm PT
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yeah, head first in the bushes used to be a real favorite of mine. hard V5 sounds about right -- in perfect conditions. damn thing was impossible in the summer, even at twilight when things had cooled off a bit. the rock still radiated.
get any pics of it? i got nothin'.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 02:30pm PT
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I was there when Johnny did I Would Die For You...
"Intense or What?!" would be an understatement! Holds breaking off, screams of doubt, and then a cacophany of yells, hoots and hollers erupting; as Johnny stood with arms raised atop the boulder, his eyeballs protruding and neck veins distended; screaming in triumph after sticking the thing, all creating an atmosphere of electricity and jubilance!
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 18, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
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I would die for you was one of my favorite boulder problems. I'd watch guys flail on that thing saying it was impossible. Then I would lace up my scarpa edging shoes and back step that small really thin edge and stand up. Just a right foot high step and it was over. I think it was rated 5.12?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 18, 2010 - 03:42pm PT
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cilley problem. dude can crank. don't know about that prince fetish, though.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
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As mentioned before, here are some lodging options for those that might need some:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://reservations.sdparks.org/reservations/flash/index.asp?park_idno=2&county_select=0
3. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=ie7&q=Dixon+Lake%2C+Escondido%2C+CA&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSHB_en
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
4. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
5. Poway Hotels -
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSHB_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Poway,+CA+hotels&fb=1&gl=us&hq=hotels&hnear=Poway,+CA&view=text&ei=x8xUS6GmKY6AswPp7J37Bw&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQtQMwAA
6. Ramona Hotels -
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSHB_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Ramona,+CA+hotels&fb=1&gl=us&hq=hotels&hnear=Ramona,+CA&view=text&ei=Us1US8_IDoLStgPV4bS5DQ&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQtQMwAA
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 04:40pm PT
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Also, any locals that can provide a room, etc. please post up on here with details. Thanks everyone!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 18, 2010 - 07:38pm PT
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BVB back when he did that we were kind of listening to Prince...Goin' to the discos in Palm Springs trollin' foe betties! Right at that time I did the FA of "Erotic City" in Josh, (another Prince tune...)
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jan 18, 2010 - 08:04pm PT
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what is this silk bananna of which you speak?
Is that that sort of greasy undercling right off the road? 5.12/b1+ ish?
That thing was cool, if it's the same one. I only went to Woodson a few times, but I'd like to do that thing again.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 18, 2010 - 08:07pm PT
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at least cilley never sported, "Suspendies, and a bra"
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 18, 2010 - 08:38pm PT
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Well Kerwin, come to the sh'dig in March and you can check it out. If you need a crash, you can hang at my place!
Peace
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 18, 2010 - 09:08pm PT
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come to think of it, i was never able to do "i would die for you", and i tried it plenty. goddammnit WHAT was i doing WRONG??!?
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Jan 18, 2010 - 09:11pm PT
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ive got camping space in escondido, a decent wall in the garage, and can house a few. munge, scuffy, are you staying w me again?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 09:41pm PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8.1 Salad
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. BeeHay aka Brad H.
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. Randy Vogel
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David (can't attend)
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris Kleppe
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. ? Roger Barnes
86. Dan Hauglestine
87. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
88. Daphne
89-90. ? Tom and Elkie Lindner
91. ? Chris Lindner
92. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
93. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
94. Graham N
95. Dr. F
96. Steve West
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 09:46pm PT
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As mentioned before, here are some lodging options for those that might need some:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://reservations.sdparks.org/reservations/flash/index.asp?park_idno=2&county_select=0
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=ie7&q=Dixon+Lake%2C+Escondido%2C+CA&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSHB_en
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSHB_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Poway,+CA+hotels&fb=1&gl=us&hq=hotels&hnear=Poway,+CA&view=text&ei=x8xUS6GmKY6AswPp7J37Bw&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQtQMwAA
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSHB_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Ramona,+CA+hotels&fb=1&gl=us&hq=hotels&hnear=Ramona,+CA&view=text&ei=Us1US8_IDoLStgPV4bS5DQ&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQtQMwAA
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 09:51pm PT
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For some reason Mike, I just can't picture YOU digging anything by Prince not to mention moving like he...uhemmm, nevermind!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 18, 2010 - 10:35pm PT
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Add Steve West to the list.
Peace
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 18, 2010 - 10:41pm PT
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Head first in the bushes:
A few crappy smears with horrible face holds to get up on the slopey small knob. Glad to have a pad from there to the better holds up higher. Really good face.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 18, 2010 - 11:45pm PT
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pads? we don't need no stinkin' pads!
Glad to have a pad from there to the better holds up higher
not when there's a top-rope...
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 12:25am PT
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With the right amount of shoe doping, head first in the bushes goes smoothly.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 12:31am PT
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BVB, on 'I would die for you' the footholds are the key. There is a faint edge to back step the left foot on (not the good edge further back). Once you get standing on it you can move your right foot up to the good edge and stand up. It's about 5.9 after that. (at least that's how I figured out how to do it.)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 12:50am PT
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Hey Donny, that "faint edge to backstep the left foot on" has, we believe, broken and is about three inches lower now making it an even higher "highstep" than in the past. An even harder problem now!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 12:55am PT
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Steve West added.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:11am PT
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I'll have to check it out. I remember the high step being really high for me. Like higher than waist level.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:13am PT
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Good job(s) on the ticks.
Watched Powell on-sight Headfirst In the Bushes, BITD. One of the early sends that marked the end of the doping era, for that problem at least. Personally, I don't remember much about the problem other than it was harder than I expected, annoyingly so. That, and I remember it being aptly named, because I was concerned about ending up headfirst in the bushes (Pre-pads and pre-rope. Plus, failure would have meant listening to KP - talk about pressure).
Should the doped ascents be qualified with an asterisk, kind of like baseball?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:22am PT
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Hey REIGN 1, didn't you use to down-climb I Would Die for You as a warm down?
(Edit: REIGN 1 could high-step like a fiend. Fact.)
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:24am PT
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how do you dope your shoes?
bleach?
acetone?
fifiknow
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:26am PT
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As a matter of fact, YES I have down climbed the route. And creative shoe cleaning isn't that big of a deal when wearing the 80's fires with stock rubber. Is it snowing up there yet?
munge, isopropol(sp) alcohol 90%+ so it evaporates quickly.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:29am PT
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It was high tech science. I can't remember what the ingredients were, maybe someone else does.
Edit: I guess Donny remembered.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:34am PT
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Yeah, the creative cleaning thing didn't seem to gain much did it.
Yeap, snow and rain mixed - messy so far. The recent pictures are making me crazy and I've only been away a few days. Already trying to figure out how I can hit a window of decent weather asap.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:38am PT
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Yeah, "The no rope or dope..."
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 02:22am PT
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bump
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 03:50am PT
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I remember when Dan and I first went to head first in the bushes. I did it in a couple tries and he was flailing and saying he was to old to climb since he turned 30 that day. I told him he had his dates mixed up and his birthday was the next day. He promptly sent the problem next try. Then I broke the news to him saying 30 wasn't to old to climb. Crap, that was 20+ years ago.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 04:03am PT
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Henny, I've been hanging off my old fingerboard. And trying to lose some weight. I don't want to be where I used to be. But if I can get to 180 I'm pretty sure I will be able to get up anything in the 5.11.a range. haha
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 04:22am PT
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1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
8.1 Salad
9. ? Phantom X
10. ? Zip
11. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
12. BeeHay aka Brad H.
13. Michael aka Oldcragger
14. Randy Vogel
15-16. Steve Grossman and Mimi
17. Mr. Dick Cilley
18. Ron Gomez
19. Levi
20. M. David (can't attend)
21. mungeclimber
22. Jaybro
23. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
24. blr
25. Christian Griffith
26. Pam aka Shanti
27. ? Klk
28. ScuffyB
29-30. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
31. Bruckman
32. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
33. ? Bob D'Antonio
34. ? Matt
35. Cragman
36. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
37. Sonja aka s.d
38. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
39. ? immanti
40. Eliot Carlsen
41. Gary aka illusiondweller
42. Randy Leavitt
43. R Bolton
44. Steve Belford
45. Karen Roseme
46. Terry Upton
47. ? Mooser
48. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
49. Dr. Sprock
50. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
51. M. Fisher
52. S. Girard
53. J. Campbell
54. Chris Kleppe
55. Erik (plumber)
56. Todd Gordon
57. Radical Riley
58. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
59. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
60. Pyrosis aka Tavis
61. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
62. James aka F10
63. ? Bluering
64. Tom Scott
65. GDavis
66. Dan Beal
67. ? Ed Hartouni
68. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
69. Porkchop_express
70. Chas
71. Johnny aka Johannsolo
72. Melissa
73. Schaffer
74. Nefarious
75. Tim
76. Jason
77. Gary Carpenter
78. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
79. Mo's brother
80. Matt
81. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
82. Anxious Melancholy
83. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
84. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
85. ? Roger Barnes
86. Dan Hauglestine
87. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
88. Daphne
89-90. ? Tom and Elkie Lindner
91. ? Chris Lindner
92. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
93. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
94. Graham N
95. Dr. F
96. Shano aka Shannon Scott
Here are some lodging options for those that might need some:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/8he3vE
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 05:11am PT
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Anyone know how to shorten the URL's there for the hotels in my last post?
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Shano
Trad climber
921OB
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Jan 19, 2010 - 04:13pm PT
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sounds like fun - i'd like to get in the game! Do I need to send unmarked bills to an unspecified address or something or just show up?
-shannon scott
san diego
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 05:17pm PT
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You can send as much money to Gary McCay as you can afford, then HE can bring the booze! But if yer strapped fer cash...just show up and have a blast!
Peace
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 19, 2010 - 05:20pm PT
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no, no, you'll be wanting to send it to me at: oldschool, po box 867-5309, flagstaff az 80911.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 19, 2010 - 05:43pm PT
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unmarked 100's only.
please.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Jan 19, 2010 - 06:02pm PT
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another bump
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 06:05pm PT
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Yo Bob-o, is it snowing like hell up the in Flag? Sorry, how dumbass of me to NOT direct the buckos directly to you, forgive me and I won't make that mistake again! See you in March, bring the cash and in BIG wads!
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 06:08pm PT
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Hey Graham N thanks for those sites...those were/are/will be really helpful! Thanks again.
Uh, hate to inform you all but no booze in this body since I was 21, well, okay since I drank "Two Officers Mr. Beer" that was given to each of us on Christmas '05 over in Iraq, next to the Euphrates River. Otherwise, I could always use the cash if you're offering. BVB is my accountant so send all donations to him. I trust him.
Coming home April '05...
Christmas '05 (bottom left, front row)...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 06:34pm PT
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Ever been dehydrated on a climb?...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 06:46pm PT
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Sorry guys, had to post that one. We were so bored (relatively speaking) over in Hit (heet), Iraq as Corpsman, we got all excited when we got word that they were bringing someone in from the field that needed our care. We walked out to meet the incoming Humvee and they unwrapped this guy for us. You make the call.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 06:55pm PT
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GARY, I didn't say the BOOZE was for YOU....only that you could THEN bring the booze!
Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 08:08pm PT
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Whoa...a body found on a trail up near the top of Woodson this morning about 10:30am.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 08:21pm PT
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My commanding officer/neurosurgeon (bottom row, middle) is four years older than me (top row, second from right) and is a climber as well. He's always wanting to go to Viet Nam, Philippines or Thailand to climb everytime I talk with him to this day! I wish I had his money! Where did I go wrong?!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 08:26pm PT
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Back to Woodson...
The "Master" on Jaws...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 08:34pm PT
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Neighboring Santee Boulders...
Bat Flake, 5.11c, Moby Dick Boulder, late 80's?...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 08:44pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Ron Kauk
2. ? Rick Piggot
3. Greg Cameron aka eeyonkee
4. Bob Van Belle aka BVB
5. ? Mike Paul aka Watusi
6. Greg Epperson (our local "famous" photographer)
7. Klimmer
8. Off White
9. Salad (tent camping/room available. Confirm by email)
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer/ACSD)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (ACSD)
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana / ACSD)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elkie Lindner
92. ? Chris Lindner
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/8he3vE
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jan 19, 2010 - 09:01pm PT
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I'll try to make a firm decision real soon. My wife actually brought it up the other day, "Are we going to that climbing thing in SD?"
I guess the ball is my court. We'll prolly make it. I'll discuss it with her.
We'll prolly stay in Coronado with her bro.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 09:24pm PT
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The wife is asking if you two are going? I'd say, "YOU ARE GOING" lol!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
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bump
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 10:35pm PT
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ive got a big back yard in poway that will fit at least 6 tents and another dozen or more pads n bags if it isnt raining. True buds that have moved away are welcome to bivi here. Greg mp bvb et al, u have my number, gimme a call and we can overnight ya. bob, gotta space for the trailer too.
check my thread "san diego fossils and glory day remnants" here - group camp last WE in april at JTree for the SD mob - another get together, but campfires to tell the big lies around. Lets do it!
ron
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Jan 19, 2010 - 10:48pm PT
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Oh, I heard you had a big 'back door', my bad...
BH
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 10:52pm PT
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mums the word on that, eh
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 11:27pm PT
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Last night I drove by woodson about 9pm. There was one car parked by the trail head. I kinda thought it was odd that someone was going up at night in this weather.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 19, 2010 - 11:36pm PT
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weather? what weather? henny don't mind.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 11:40pm PT
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Are you kidding BVB? Henny's in his chicken coop with an eletric blanket thrown over the chicken wire out on the north forty.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 20, 2010 - 12:26am PT
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Just watching it snow at the chicken ranch. Looks like there's better days in the forecast down there than up here. At least there won't be snow at Woodson.
I'm psyched, that Vice-principals Office has my name all over it.
Not.
C'mon, post up some pictures. Help keep the motivation up while it snows.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 20, 2010 - 12:36am PT
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I think the next trip I make up to woodson with Henny we will concentrate on Bat flake, Big Grunt Chimney, Crucible and Mother Superior. That way he will stay awake on the drive back to Bishop because his whole body will be hurtin.hahaha Seriously though, I wouldn't mind getting on Bat flake, and superior. Is that cool Henny?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 20, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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Yeah, that's cool. Whatever floats your boat - hopefully it won't sink mine.
Hey, I've done that Big Grunt Chimney! You and Dan almost turned me into a permanent fixture in it with your bogus beta about downclimbing it to get down from those face routes.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 20, 2010 - 01:07am PT
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Bluering.........you gotta be there. I wanna meet you, remember the Bachar thread about 4th of you lie? We had a good discussion and man in the end I really got a lot of respect for you listening and talking. BE THERE! Will be good to meet you!
Peace
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 20, 2010 - 01:27am PT
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Henny, we couldn't help it if you didn't know your left from your right.LOL
After buying a new harness and grigri last week, I found the harness I bought in 2000 and my old grigri hooked to it. There's a hundred and something bucks I'll not see again. haha
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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Jan 20, 2010 - 01:58am PT
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I took a visiting climber out to Woodson. He was from Ohio and had heard about it. We hit Aids Victim, Hear my Train a Comin, Driving South, Robbin's Crack, Eric's Face, Baby Robbin's, Uncertainty Principle, Jaws, Big Grunt, Mother Superior, and a bunch of other easier routes that we soloed in a day. Woodson is just plain amazing once you know your way around! Thanks to all those who explored it back in the day and found all those amazing routes.
Josh
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 20, 2010 - 01:59am PT
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is there a parking place for a Vanagon?
that's all I need...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 20, 2010 - 02:01am PT
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also, put the dates on the list too... I'm too old to remember...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jan 20, 2010 - 02:05am PT
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who is the dude who wrote for Perry Mason?
i will be staying at his ranch, as long as he does not go grabbin for my goodies at night, i mean, how many freaks?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Jan 20, 2010 - 03:11am PT
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Ed H.
Some No. Cal's you know are staying here and yo be welcome. Just let me know. Have a plug in if needed. Peace, lynne
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2010 - 04:06am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. ? Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2010 - 12:43pm PT
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Well ya'll I just received confirmation that the wonder-kid himself, Chris Lindner is going to join us in March. Chris is as excited as I am and wants to help out. He's agreed to give a presentation Friday night after the day of climbing. I'm still working on securing Vertical Hold as the venue for this.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 20, 2010 - 01:01pm PT
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dude. it's just another day at teh cragz, yo.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2010 - 06:08pm PT
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Mini finessing the TV Screen, 5.10b ('88-'89)
The Dragon, 5.10d
BVB riding The Dragon (circa 1980's)
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Jan 20, 2010 - 06:17pm PT
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where is that Dragon Arete?! that thing looks awesome!
edit: I might put that on the list for this weekend...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2010 - 08:21pm PT
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Up over the top towards yet before the Ogre on the left.
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blr
climber
socal
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Jan 20, 2010 - 08:25pm PT
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The Dragon Arete is over the top, on the left side of the trail between the Crucible and the Ogre. It's easier to see once you've passed it. If you climb the arete on the right side, it's about .11a/b-ish. There are also two face climbs to the right, each with a single bolt for TRing. One of 'em is quite hard...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2010 - 01:13am PT
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One more of Johnny on I Would Die For You...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2010 - 03:11am PT
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Bump
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jan 21, 2010 - 03:21am PT
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i will be lodging in De Luxe accomadations near the frog pond at dos picos county park.
if i have to shank a coyote running nationals across the border, so be it.
And, i just finished my taxes with a whoopin 34 bucs fed,
arnie gets $134 WTF, over?
frickin republicans, i'm jus sayin...
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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
Currently in San Diego
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Jan 21, 2010 - 03:49am PT
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I didnt wanna post this on a new thread in the event that its something that ought not be broadcast for some odd reason, but I heard that a body was found at or quite near Mt Woodson...I was surprised that I hadnt seen it on here.
Whats the deal?
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 21, 2010 - 04:36am PT
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It was posted a couple times. From what i've heard they said foul play was not ruled out. Possible mountain lion kill? maybe. There are a few of them running in the hills around those parts. We've seen tracks on the north side trails before. I drove by there monday at 9pm and it was raining and windy. There was one car parked by the trail head. Details are scarce.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2010 - 03:11pm PT
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"A man whose body was found on Mount Woodson was identified as 60-year-old Donald Allen Fobes of Oceanside, officials with the Medical Examiner’s Office said Wednesday.
Fobes was discovered Tuesday about 10:45 a.m. on a trail by a hiker who called authorities. A Sheriff’s Department helicopter lifted his body from the mountain.
The Medical Examiner’s office has not determined how Fobes died. An autopsy is scheduled to be performed Wednesday"
Based on what I've seen so far and making an educated guess, I'm, first, going to rule out a cougar for if there was visible evidence from this type of trauma, which I think there would be, someone would have reported it. Second, based on the mans age, the physical exertion involved and statistics, I'm going to say he had a cardiac event which ultimately killed him. I'm just going off little evidence, and Paramedic discretion, then again who am I?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2010 - 04:48pm PT
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Continue on the trail, just past Seminar Wall on the right and you'll find this desperate mess/groove of Dudley's aka Lizard Crack, 5.11d...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2010 - 04:55pm PT
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Uhemm....you Rubidoux folk...seems face/slab climbing is your forte,' but you're on Woodson, Mt. Woodson, crack climbing mecca, known for it's classic cracks. Johnny, you ever get back to California Night? I always was taught to be well-rounded in my climbing (poke, poke, jab, jab).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2010 - 05:01pm PT
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This always reminded me of something right out of Joshua Tree. A fairly bold highball with a bad landing...even for today's "pad people" (gosh, I love that phrase)!...
Scotty unroped on Left Longs Crack, 5.10d
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2010 - 05:12pm PT
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Creativity, style and power is required from the beginning on this unique problem which Eppi contrasts here on a bold, ropeless ascent of The Cave, 5.11 (circa 80's)...
...eliminating the "Captains Chair" creates a more fluid, uninterrupted problem that forces you to climb with efficiency.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Jan 21, 2010 - 06:41pm PT
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I really like how this guy looks just like Watusi but with hair...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2010 - 07:47pm PT
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Off White....where'd you get that picture? That's a classic vintage photo! Tell us more about this picture? I know it's TV Screen but how young were you Mike? What brand of cigarette were you smoking, lol? Post some more, post some more!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2010 - 07:49pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. ? Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 21, 2010 - 07:58pm PT
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Wow Doug! That looks like it's from the series you took for the Scumbag Guide back in what...'76? (BITD we thought the cigs made us look gnarly like Largo, or the Bird...)
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Jan 21, 2010 - 08:41pm PT
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Illusiondweller,
cool photos! Having done Left Long's a couple times on a rope, I've always felt it to be harder than The Chube, near Gunsmoke, in Joshua Tree (similar style of climb). Thing is, isn't The Chube like V2? wouldn't that make it like 5.11? Anyway, grades don't really mean anything, but I think Left Long's is definitely a touch harder.
stolen from Westcoastbouldering.com:
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 21, 2010 - 08:48pm PT
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That is a classic Watusi picture. For sure. Got more?
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Jan 21, 2010 - 09:09pm PT
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Add Jim Bridwell to the list;........he's ready to party....We will make the pilgramage from the desert to the San Diego scrub....
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 21, 2010 - 09:15pm PT
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Man, I love those old photos.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 21, 2010 - 09:19pm PT
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that pic of mike was taken in '77. i'm just out of the frame below him. forget the exact brand of smokes but they were these fancy british dimps that came in a nice box. we were smoking those things and galouise french dimps, to be more like don whillans.
i couldn't do the tv screen last month. damn.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 21, 2010 - 09:39pm PT
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'dweller - I'm not sure I'd call those guys the Rubidoux crew, although they have and do boulder there. It's probably more accurate to call them the "boulder/climb anywhere it's good" crew. Lately it seems they've been at Woodson a lot. Lucky turkeys.
Not sure there's really a core Rubidoux group anymore like there was, although it's still fun to try playing that trump card. Did a few Woodson cracks, still hope to do a few more.
bvb - another opportunity coming up soon. all things pass.
Edit - so Donnys post makes sense. I moved the question about the background to a post one or two down. He was too fast for me.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 21, 2010 - 09:45pm PT
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Yeah BVB, if I remember they were British Dunhills that we were running as well as those powerful Galouises...
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 21, 2010 - 09:45pm PT
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Yeah, no houses
Ramona didn't even have a stop light back then. Just the kentucky fried chicken if I'm thinking right.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 21, 2010 - 09:47pm PT
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Anybody see much difference in the background of that circa '77 picture? Although I guess you can't really see much of the surrounding valley. Bet there was a big diff between the housing then and now. I think I first came down there around '74, but don't remember much about things like that though.
I do remember driving down on the old 395, what a pita. And going through Escondido to get there.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 21, 2010 - 09:50pm PT
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Mike looks really young in that pic. How old?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 21, 2010 - 10:08pm PT
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mike was about 16 or so that pic got snapped...right about when he started getting pretty sw0le.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 21, 2010 - 10:14pm PT
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Henny, there aren't any real rubideux climbers. You guys were just misplaced woodson hopefuls.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 21, 2010 - 10:18pm PT
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Fried chicken? How appalling!!!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jan 21, 2010 - 10:34pm PT
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I WILL BE IN SITE 57 SEE HERE>
just in case someone wants to pour camp fuel on my tent a 3 in the morning and watch a skinny ass buck nekid white boy run thru the park with three pounds of flaming plastic stuck to his back.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 21, 2010 - 10:38pm PT
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just in case someone wants to pour camp fuel on my tent a 3 in the morning and watch a skinny ass buck nekid white boy run thru the park with three pounds of flaming plastic stuck to his back.
oh, my. i'd pay money to see that.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jan 21, 2010 - 10:40pm PT
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you, and a lot of other freaks, my friend.
site 58 is open, if case you want to avoid it.,or the general area
my site looks exactly like this, only different.
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Jan 21, 2010 - 10:42pm PT
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"Add Jim Bridwell to the list;........he's ready to party....We will make the pilgramage from the desert to the San Diego scrub...."
Todd are you going to have Tucker with you also?
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ATS
Social climber
escondido, ca
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Jan 21, 2010 - 11:39pm PT
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Would love take some pictures of you legends....
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ATS
Social climber
escondido, ca
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Jan 21, 2010 - 11:41pm PT
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BTW, Dos Picos is just a stones throw from Woodson (shameless plug).
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 21, 2010 - 11:42pm PT
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Would love take some pictures of you legends....
that's (c)american fukkin' legend to you, babe.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Jan 22, 2010 - 12:13am PT
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James;.....yeah;...probably Tucker too...I would imagine.......I'll run it by him........
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2010 - 12:44am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. ? Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2010 - 12:46am PT
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Bridwell makes the century mark, #100!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 22, 2010 - 01:48am PT
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Just a Bump for good measure...
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 22, 2010 - 09:43am PT
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bvb, check yer pack, im missing some gear
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snowey
Trad climber
San Diego
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Jan 22, 2010 - 01:45pm PT
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I will be there probably with some of my other pullharder guys.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2010 - 03:04pm PT
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Jewell at Vertical Hold just confirmed that the gym will host the Friday night presentations!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 22, 2010 - 03:09pm PT
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bvb, check yer pack, im missing some gear
no way ron. that #7 stopper, #10 hex and those eiger ovals are mine. stole 'em from stanley andrews just last week.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 22, 2010 - 03:17pm PT
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Hah! Stanley Andrews!! I remember I used to get my chalk there and thought it was a rip at .40 cents...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2010 - 03:38pm PT
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Hey Bob, would you be interested in writing an article about this event? Your writing style has always impressed me and many others over the years. How about it? Drop me an email if you would.
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Scott Cole
Trad climber
Jackson, WY^
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Jan 22, 2010 - 05:21pm PT
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I can make that. Put me on the list. I just moved to San Diego, so its just down the road.
Scole
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Jan 23, 2010 - 01:36am PT
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Hey 'Tusi, 40 cents was a rip, gas was .23 back then!
Scott C., we talked at Boy Scout trailhead New Years weekend, I was with Epi. If it ever stops raining, we should do some secret training...
Brad
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jan 23, 2010 - 01:42am PT
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so if anybody is thinkin Mt. Woodson > Taquitz > J Tree,
tell the boss to shove it, know what i'm sayin?
this is my site right here, good ol white trash #57,
because i like my campsites a little on the trashy side,
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 23, 2010 - 02:37am PT
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If bob writes that article i will need to review it before it sees print. Thats how weve been doing things since back in the 90's....
heh bob-o, i been waitin 25 years to get that lil titty-eye on ya
Boy am I getting cheap, petty and intemperate in my old age... and it feels great!
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 24, 2010 - 01:30am PT
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I found one of my posts pasted onto the list of overnight accomodations, with the addendum "confirm by email", so i want to clarify that.
I wish i had the space to accomodate everybody who needs a place to overnight, but i dont. That was a personal offer to friends who have my phone number so dont bother to email.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2010 - 03:17am PT
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Oooops! My mistake Ron, my misunderstanding. I took it off of all the previous postings as well. Sorry.
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dmr
Social climber
Carlsbad, CA
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Jan 24, 2010 - 08:31pm PT
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There is some lovely fixed gear in the thin hands section of Jaws. Probably needs a torch or sawzall to remove. One might be able to funk it out with a sling threaded around it.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 24, 2010 - 08:33pm PT
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you must be joking. how the fukc did gear get fixed in jaws?!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2010 - 09:07pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. ? Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2010 - 09:15pm PT
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You coming in March dmr?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 25, 2010 - 01:03am PT
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The following post also appeared in the Uncertainty Principle thread but is reposted here because the TV Screen Center is a well known long standing Woodson problem:
It was an almost perfect day late in the afternoon at Woodson today. The temps went quite cool and the rock was still clean after last week's rain.
Late in the afternoon John Weinberg (Johannsolo) completed the long standing problem in the center of the TV Screen. The problem, first tried by Kevin Powell in the mid 80's was previously known under the working name of "The Emergency Broadcast System".
Based on the lack of any response to previous queries on this forum regarding any known ascents, coupled with various references that refer to the center problem being "V?", it is assumed that this is the first known (verified) ascent of the problem.
HDTV V6.
The V6 rating was felt to be appropriate because the problem was similar in nature and difficulty to that of problems in several other bouldering areas as well as the crux moves on routes at Suicide (Idyllwild).
Check it out at the upcoming reunion, it's a high quality problem on excellent rock.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2010 - 01:11am PT
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Right on Johnny! And I see you stuck with the name you had in mind. I still like "Vertical Hold", lol! HDTV fits today's technology though... great name and congrats!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2010 - 01:32am PT
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Bob, I think I've been duped! I headed up to Woodson at 1930 to check out the claim:
"There is some lovely fixed gear in the thin hands section of Jaws. Probably needs a torch or sawzall to remove. One might be able to funk it out with a sling threaded around it."
Here's the "lovely fixed gear" that was stuffed down into the top of the crack on Jaws. I recovered it without too much trouble. Hey wait, didn't that say "cam" before?! :
When I first layed down and put my headlamp into the crack, I jumped back and could swear I was looking at a bat or bats nestled snug in there! The shadows from the light made it hard to figure out what I was looking at but the more I looked, I could tell it wasn't a cam. But as I looked further down, I could see a "gear loop" and said to myeself, "Maybe it IS a cam!" So I put my fingers down to touch it and felt rubber and it was then that I finally figured out what it was that I was looking at, pfft! A few tugs and pulls later the sopping wet slipper came out. It was a nice walk up the hill though. I got back at 2100.
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dmr
Social climber
Carlsbad, CA
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Jan 25, 2010 - 01:35am PT
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Very nice Johnny.
ID - put me on the list, I hope you didn't head up to Jaws. The fixed gear isn't the type of booty you'd want. It's a size 41ish Boreal shoe, used as some sort of top rope appurtenance.
edit - too late, lol. I never said cam, I was hoping that someone post up a pic. Sorry for getting you out on a wild shoe chase.
How'd you get it out? I must have loosened it up for you.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2010 - 01:53am PT
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Hmmm...that's a lot of info on a shoe that was stuffed upside down in the crack without being to look inside and see the size! As a matter of fact, I just undid the velcro and the size isn't anywhere to be found!
Well, as I mentioned earlier about mentors, my mentor always taught me to stay calm when trying to remove protection for, given time, it'll usually comes out the same way it was put in. So I attached a biner in the gear loop with a sling attached and tugged firmly in all directions to see if it was loose in any of these which when pulled downward it moved. So I, while leaning precariously over the edge, pulled out and down, using my elbows as a fulcrum and eventually funked it out. I actually brought a hammer, large flathead screwdriver and my nut tool to work on the cam which, for some reason, I thought it was, hence the trip up there to recover "booty". Oh well, the stars were awesome and the 3/4 moon cast lots of light on the mountain!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 25, 2010 - 01:56am PT
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The owner of that shoe wants it back desperately. Please return it asap to:
(c)american fukkin' legend (aka oldschool),
po box 867-5309, flagstaff az 80911.
Thank-you for your prompt attention to this matter.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2010 - 01:59am PT
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You wouldn't, nor would Bob, want it Henny for the toe rubber, rand and leather upper is blown out. Then again, I'll send it to Bob!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 25, 2010 - 02:09am PT
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Hey, how much has Firefly been getting done since the fire? We went up there to check it out this afternoon. I ended up taking us on a wild goose chase because we ended up sans any reference other than what I remembered (obviously a bad idea - haha) from seeing it on a map just early yesterday.
Actually we ended up pretty close to it at one point, but not having a reference (and none of us had been that far down the trail before) we didn't go down hill quite far enough. I just checked again and there is reference to a trail, which none of us ever found even though we seem to have been in the correct place. That hillside is kind of ugly right there because of the fire. Did we simply miss the trail, is it rarely gone to, or did the fire have an affect on things there? How bad did the fire affect the ambiance of the problem in general?
Bummer.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2010 - 02:15am PT
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You're back in town Henny, or did you ever leave?
I haven't been down there for ages! But, what I do remember (very little memory) was heading, pretty much due north from the Ogre with Piggot, following a least path of resistance through chapparel and over the tops of boulders for no more than 500 yds. The "trail" eventually dumps you out atop the actual Firefly boulder, which, if you hadn't been there before, you wouldn't know you were standing on top of it! You descend down and around the right side of the boulder from there. It'll be on your left as you descend. You may have passed it if you went further than that.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 25, 2010 - 02:27am PT
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I'm in Orange County right now for work this week. I was up north last week, through yesterday. Couldn't resist a side trip to Woodson on my way to work. Too many things on the tick list, gotta work some of them off.
The "trail" eventually dumps you out atop the actual Firefly boulder, which, if you hadn't been there before, you wouldn't know you were standing on top of it!
As we came to suspect.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2010 - 04:55am PT
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When did the Fire's come out...83?
Illusiondweller on Jaws, circa '83?
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dmr
Social climber
Carlsbad, CA
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Jan 25, 2010 - 03:02pm PT
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Hmmm...that's a lot of info on a shoe that was stuffed upside down in the crack...
How do I get it back? In need it for my project. If I could only get that right toe to stick in that pocket...:)
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 25, 2010 - 03:30pm PT
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wow...tv screen center. talk about a "last great problem..." woulda, coulda, shoulda!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 25, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
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There's only about 1,000 of us saying that.
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Jan 25, 2010 - 04:05pm PT
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Hey Henny,
were you at Woodson yesterday? Are you guy with the mustache and white knickers that I keep seeing?
Anyway, to anyone who wasn't at Woodson yesterday, it must've been the best weather I've seen there. What an awesome day!
-Nick
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 25, 2010 - 04:39pm PT
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If I ever needed to go incognito all I would need to do is shave the mustache. Yes, that would be me.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2010 - 10:20pm PT
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For those that haven't already seen, the recent storm caused a large, ~24" diameter trunk tree to come crashing down in front of the Razor's Edge flake. I didn't have any tools but did manage to remove a good number of large branches from the trail that traverses along the base. I purposely caused the "man killer" downed tree trunk to come crashing off it's teetering perch to stabilize it. If any one can beat me to it, one more branch or so needs to be cut away from the top of the flake to reopen the problem.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2010 - 10:37pm PT
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Johnny, regarding the ground start to IHMT....it's gonna go! I managed to make the move up to my original, standing on the stone, start sequence but I ripped a small flapper off of my right index finger which put a halt to my progress. That's what I get for being on the couch for too long. It's a stiff one arm reach/pull, with my right index and middle finger stacked on top, in that scar at the bottom with a good right foot under the overhanging section at the bottom and my left on that nub up and left. To move the left hand above the right, thumbs up, is the crux. Moving on from there is muscle memory but definitely puts me on edge at this point. I'll get it next time, you watch!
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 25, 2010 - 11:34pm PT
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I love Woodson finger cracks.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jan 26, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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HDTV looks excellent. There are a lot of "?" on the list of attendees, but if KLK and BobD are going to be there, I'm definitely in.
Curt
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2010 - 12:41am PT
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Talk to me Eliot, what did that to your fingers other than being soft (haha)?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2010 - 12:45am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. ? Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 26, 2010 - 01:01am PT
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Sickle Crack!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2010 - 01:31am PT
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Huh? Sickle is 4" to 12" or so. Why are your tips bloody? I just lead that thing as an OW and a TR'd it as a layback to the left not too long ago. Your tips? Your knees and elbows should be worked!
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blr
climber
socal
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Jan 26, 2010 - 01:49am PT
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hehehe.... I mean, bump.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2010 - 02:11pm PT
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bump
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Jan 26, 2010 - 02:20pm PT
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someone call for worked knees and elbows? Take a ride on the Big Grunt! Just hope yer knot claustrophobic!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2010 - 02:36pm PT
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For me, Big Grunt is tame on the limb prominences. Its a fun one, that's for sure! Cracks like The Crucible and Sickle, always makes me dread that evening shower!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 26, 2010 - 02:58pm PT
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I'm lucky people aren't slinging my skeleton to this day as lead protection in the Big Grunt.
I downclimbed it one time after being given totally bogus instructions on how to get down from the top after doing the face to the left. As it constricted ever more while I descended I became seriously concerned that I would get stuck, but I kept pushing down thinking I was almost out of it. Finally, with most of my legs hanging out the bottom I reached the point where I could no longer move.
Talk about claustrophobic! It took minutes to extract myself and involved things like trying to calm myself enough to breath shallow so my chest wouldn't expand so much. Approaching mild panic I finally managed to gather myself enough for one last forceful push down, figuring I would either become so completely stuck that I would require forceful assisted extraction or I'd be free.
Luckily I popped out of it and dropped onto the slab beneath. Since no one had witnessed the debacle I composed myself and walked around the corner where I commented that I couldn't believe people actually would willingly do that downclimb when it was so unpleasant. All I got in reply was vacant stares, and once it was understood what I had done, ridicule.
It might have been easier had I stayed further out where it was a little wider, but I was clueless about what I was downclimbing. I imagine it was still easier to descend than it is to ascend.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 26, 2010 - 03:32pm PT
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HDTV looks excellent. There are a lot of "?" on the list of attendees, but if KLK and BobD are going to be there, I'm definitely in.
Curt
'bout time you chimed in curt. thought i was gonna have to break down and pick up the phone to ridicule you into attending!
fair warning -- i'm, like, a 5.9 climber right now. for serious.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2010 - 03:33pm PT
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You're not the first that Big Grunt has given birth to henny!
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 26, 2010 - 03:47pm PT
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That's hilarious henny. Down climbing Big Grunt has got to be way scarier and harder than ascending it. At least when you are climbing up you don't have to look down.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 26, 2010 - 03:48pm PT
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boys, boys, boys. we used to mass assault big grunt. we'd get a bunch of us wedged in there and pass a joint around. good times!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2010 - 04:19pm PT
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We use to start from the back and traverse through to be born feet first out the front! In the medical field we call that a "limb presentation" which is a true medical emergency, which Henny almost found out!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 26, 2010 - 04:21pm PT
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and on even the hottest summer days it's cool n' breezy in there...natural refridgeration.
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 26, 2010 - 04:21pm PT
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All we're missing is the joint!
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Jan 26, 2010 - 04:31pm PT
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Looks like my kinda fun!!
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Jan 26, 2010 - 04:48pm PT
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"We use to start from the back and traverse through to be born feet first out the front!"
Illusiondweller, that's hilarious!
I always wanted to get wedged up in it with my feet dangling out right when a hiker was passing by so I could thrash around and yell at them like I was stuck and needed a can of Crisco to get out!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2010 - 05:11pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. ? Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jan 26, 2010 - 07:51pm PT
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"...bout time you chimed in curt. thought i was gonna have to break down and pick up the phone to ridicule you into attending!
fair warning -- i'm, like, a 5.9 climber right now. for serious..."
Heh, I know a Woodson 5.11c sandbagging when I see one.
Curt
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 26, 2010 - 11:50pm PT
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That pic of MS sure tells the story on what the local climbers are into now. BITD that climb always had chalk on it. Even after rain the chalk remained in the ow. One of my favorite climbs.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 27, 2010 - 01:06am PT
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Yeah that was one of my favs as well!!
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Jan 27, 2010 - 01:06am PT
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It must have been beautiful up there last Sunday, but I gotta show off where we were.
If you live in So Cal and haven't done the Palm Canyon Epic, you ain't no mountain biker!...
The last shot, of the bighorns, was on the same ride 2 years ago. This is the only SoCal ride that we shuttle, 2K climbing, 6K downhill!
Brad
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 27, 2010 - 01:42am PT
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That's a good ride. Gotta love the sand wash in the fall.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 27, 2010 - 02:18am PT
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ok bob, now i know where you guys hid to ditch me when you went to blaze one
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Jan 27, 2010 - 02:29am PT
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thanks, i'm bringin my mtn bike.
that single trak looks like it might be the coolest nite ride in the universe,
just watch those yucca stickers, i tell you what,
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2010 - 11:34am PT
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Bump
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2010 - 12:18pm PT
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Met with ACSD last night and I think there's go to be a minor change in plans. I think the product booths are going to be nixed and a raffle of product giveaways at the post climb events on Friday and Saturday is going to happen instead. Too much drama/responsibility putting all that together! K.I.S.S. is my best bet.
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Graham N
Social climber
temecula
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Jan 27, 2010 - 01:55pm PT
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So whats everyones ideas for best face climbs at woodson between 5.11 and 5.12? (bagged/unbagged?) I dont get down there that much and really havent gotten far off the trail to the lesser known climbs. I wanna try some harder face climbs(and maybe some slabs if its cool enough).
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 27, 2010 - 02:26pm PT
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What kind of open end on the 12? 12-? 12+? That could make a difference in the recommendations.
If you haven't done them, it's impossible to go wrong with the Uncertainty Priniciple problems. All three of them. R to L, Uncertainty Principle 11c, Kurtains for Certain 12a, and Exit Stage Left 11c/sb(12b).
Plenty more of 'em. I'm interested in seeing the recommendations you get myself.
Edit: sheesh, can't spell. Principle not Principal.
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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Jan 27, 2010 - 02:40pm PT
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Stairway to Heaven and Alcoa, side by side. StH is definitely the better of the two, though. Just up the hill is The Cave, for some overhung novelty, with a thin face problem around to the immediate right called something like Stepping on Air. If I can think of more later, I'll post em. All of those are stones throw away from each other, and are mentioned in descending quality, but all are good.
Josh
Edit to add Seminar Wall, Move Over Junion, and Retropulsion, all basically off the same anchor and about 70' off the road.
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Jan 27, 2010 - 02:46pm PT
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Can't forget the Seminar Wall (5.11c). Really cool, balancy knob climbing. If you've got hard calluses and tendons of steel, Move Over Junior (the direct finish to Seminar Wall - 5.12d) might the ticket...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
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How about Seminar Wall and it's knobs and it's overhanging arete of Retropulsion? Or all around the Painted Boulder? Rumor has it that Woodward did a direct start up the paint streak, otherwise the traverse in from the right is a good one! Nobody's mentioned Hellrazor, two boulders just west of Uncertainty Principle. There's a scoop-like face on the south face of the first boulder west of U.P. that has some cool stemming! These are just a few that popped into my head and remember, they don't have to be "Woodson 11c's" to be enjoyable!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 27, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
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Slabs: Airstream (top of mountain), Head First in the Bushes, All the TV Screen problems, Slap You Silly (just down off the road across from Big Grunt). You'll need cool weather for the harder of these.
The locals are bound to know a bunch more...
Edit: another good face, Deport Jonny (also just down off the road across from Big Grunt).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2010 - 02:57pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. ? Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 27, 2010 - 03:09pm PT
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So whats everyones ideas for best face climbs at woodson between 5.11 and 5.12?
i'd get on the best of the newest, HDTV. and has top secret file ever been repeated?
some of my faves:
head first in the bushes
5.10a on the outside
potato face (aka the spud)
painted boulder (west face)
uncertainty
lemon chiffon
hellraiser
grand central station
klettergarden slab
double scoop
little horn
big horn traverse
starface
pruneface (this thing is an excellent adventure, and it hardly ever sees traffic)
and oh god, can't remember the name of it -- killer accamazzo problem just downhill from big grunt. done it a gazillion times and i can't remember the name!
and greg's face, now that the trail is cleared out.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 27, 2010 - 03:13pm PT
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Go With the Flow. Down from the Big Grunt. Which immediately brings two other real good ones to mind.
Bad Boys From Detroit
Laker Girls
Both are just down from GWtF, and qualify as slab. Anybody know of any repeats of Laker Girls?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 27, 2010 - 03:17pm PT
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right, go with the flow.
i guess i should be happy that even though i can't remember the names of things, i can remember the moves like i just did them last week.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 27, 2010 - 03:19pm PT
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Rumor has it that Woodward did a direct start up the paint streak
What's that about? Is it an unconfirmed rumor? I could get an absolute answer from JW if it's only hearsay.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 27, 2010 - 03:21pm PT
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i can't imagine jonny would voluntarily climb on sharp, chossy, paint-covered holds. i mean fer chrissakes, woodson ain't roubidoux.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 27, 2010 - 03:26pm PT
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Damn, that hurt!
Edit: bvb, they sand blasted the lower lot, which was the worst offender. and did a surprisingly good job of it. just an fyi.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 27, 2010 - 03:45pm PT
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heh. i got off a good one.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2010 - 03:51pm PT
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You know Bob, as trivial as it may be, The Spud was shown to me waaaaaaaay back in "my" day and it was forgotten about until recently when I removed the dead brush from the base of it and put chalk on that darn thing again! I made it as obvious as I could to get the "kids" interested and sure enough, people started doing it again. It may be a one move wonder but what a classic looking face to the top of that thing. And the descent isn't what you hope for either! And Double Scoop, that thing has been forgotten about although Johnny, et al has been back on it finally.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2010 - 03:56pm PT
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Did you hear/see the earlier post on the tree that fell in front of Razors Edge Bob?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2010 - 04:55pm PT
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 27, 2010 - 05:04pm PT
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Any repeats of laker girls?
Henny, I know a guy that has a friend that works with this girl that has a cousin that used to climb BITD and said he knew some guys from europe that had watched a guy tell the story about the 2nd ascent of laker girls. Rumor is he wore scarpas....
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Jan 27, 2010 - 05:14pm PT
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Illusiondweller,
I went to end my Sunday with a quick lap on Razor's Edge, but was bummed to find a tree fell on it. Did it get cleared off?
-Nick
edit: I'm not very bright....I guess those pictures indicate, that indeed R.E. did get cleared off...
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 27, 2010 - 05:19pm PT
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Dude, I got so dizzy trying to follow that... I almost threw up.
Of course it would be scarpas, we already knew that.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 27, 2010 - 05:29pm PT
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scarpas? eeeew. must've been getting 'em for free.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 27, 2010 - 06:04pm PT
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BVB, Henny clued me into the scarpas. I sent almost everything at suicide with those scarpas. Those shoes own slab climbing.
Also, is top secret file on the rock across from blasted boulder1? Starts by climbing the right hand arete and then traversing across to the left on a mirror, then going up the seam in the middle?
If it is, I might know someone that has done that.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 27, 2010 - 06:21pm PT
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that sounds like it. top secret file is on a boulder that's right on the road, sort of between the tv screen and head first in the bushes, kinda near the very first blasted rock that keeled over decades ago and is now plastered into the asphalt. the problem pretty much faces east - southeast. it's on the right hand side of the road as you're walking uphill. it's a glassy 15' grey face with a couple of diagonal slashes going across it. extreme smearing. word on the street is it's the most extreme smearfest ever, thanks to the highest of highly refined shoedoping technique. pretty much need perfect shoes and perfect temps to get up the sucker. i've stared it down many times and could never even figure out how to start the thing.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 27, 2010 - 06:57pm PT
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top secret file was another Dan Leichtfuss friction marvel - we had been trying it and getting ever..so..close without any luck, then i meet up with dan one day and he tells me it goes now. I suppose its ok to spill the beans after all these years, but dans secret was to file the soles of his shoes to expose friction-warmed virgin rubber (thus the name of the problem) for the friction wayrads.
"Stealth Bomber" is another of dans friction desperates nobody has mentioned (or even knows about?) way classic 12b. I put up a hard friction line (49th street)down in the bush which i called 11c, but i was calling head first in the bushes 11c at that time too. I have a project that I never finished but absolutely would have gone with a little more cleaning and work i dubbed "the vision" and called 12a to my high point. That was when i was sporting a hone and everything just out of my reach was "12a". Could be harder. Got another eye popping untouched line i call the henious potato and im willing to give em both up now that im too old and fat to make the FAs. If the vision is 12a, heinous potatoes will be like 12c
How about some of my other thin face routes:
Stickmen 11c, friendly fire 11d, allisons problem 12a, Fly by Night 12a,
the joker 11d, rough boys 11c/d...guess im gonna have to point em out when we get together. Got an overhanging jug route called checkered demon 11c next to a classic woodson finger crack "donnys par 3" 12a/b (lance hughson i believe, apologies if im wrong) on the missing link, which is a massive boulder north of the longs cracks. I placed 2 bolts on the lead (10a) to get to the top of the missing link and there are probably more tr lines, but another bolt on the very top is required. In the same area, Wlid Turkey 11a, nothing to fear 10b, good for the soul 10a and not far away the "faces of death" 3 mid range 5.10 faces off of a single bolt.
If you guys would listen to yer uncle ron you might learn something, heh.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 27, 2010 - 07:10pm PT
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Re: painted boulder direct, people call that the woodward arete - would be interesting if he hadnt actually done it
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 27, 2010 - 07:14pm PT
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Isn't the "Woodward Arete" the left side of the TV Screen? He did do that for sure.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 27, 2010 - 07:34pm PT
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hmmm ya got me, but that actually sounds more likely, painted is far from an arete, and now theres some question as to whether JW even did that problem, so i stand corrected. Thanks :)
r
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 27, 2010 - 09:04pm PT
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Ahh yes, Top Secret File. On my list but you must have to traverse in from the right arete? I've stared up at that face a few times but have yet to shoe up for it as I could not see how it starts. Maybe a manteling mutant could go for it straight up.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 27, 2010 - 10:20pm PT
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Yeah I always remember Woodward arete being the L side of the TV Screen...Trippin' BVB, Pruneface...I hadn't thought of that one since I put it up back in like...'85 I think?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2010 - 02:05am PT
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"Anonymous hardman (aka bvb), in full mid-70's hairfarmer mode, hiking an obscure V6 Woodson highball, circa 1978. But enough about the route and the burly skill clearly in evidence...let's check out those threads! for today's bouldering outfit, our hero, clearly willing to take the most outrageous fashion risks, will be sporting a pair of Haines long underwear, neatly paired with a "tighty whitey" wifebeater tank top and cleverly accesorized with a pair of dainty powder blue corduroy shorts. grey sweat socks provide a firm anchor for the loose cuffs of the long undies, ensuring they don't ride up on those big woodson high step moves -- an often feared fashion faux pas to be avoided at all costs. rounding out today's sporting ensemble will be a length of green 2" tubular webbing, cleverly color coordinated with bob's green RR's (at the time, one of the few available alternatives to eb's) and a home-made chalkbag supported by a $2.35 cent eiger oval beaner looped through the webbing. yes ladies and gentlemen, fashion-forward style sense like this comes along once in a generation...thank god..." (rc.com)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2010 - 02:13am PT
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The comments on the above picture from rc.com:
pbjosh on 2003-03-16
Where exactly is this problem, and any idea if it has a name? I've tromped around a reasonable amount but not a ton in the vicinity of PhD/Fall Semester but don't recall anything looking like this :)
bvb on 2003-03-16
problem does not have a name, and relocating it would be a flesh-shredding manzanita tango. like a lot of woodson's best lines, the route is long forgotten; i doubt it's been climbed in over 20 years.
misha on 2003-03-16
SWEEEEEET, it's nice to see something from back in the day.
jt512 on 2003-03-16
What's that chick got tied around her waist anyway?
vram1974 on 2003-03-17
If you read the description you'd see it was a guy (who submitted the photo) and he explains that its 2 inch green tubular webbing... that problem looks rad!
photon on 2003-03-17
your spotter needs glasses pbjosh on 2003-03-18 Well I'll have to go poking around there at some point as I look for new stuff :)
bvb on 2003-03-22
I've just cut a deal with Prana; they'll be offering this exact same bouldering outfit in 2004 as part of the "bvb signature line". Surveys and focus groups have revealed that the ladies go crazy for these kind of threads. Avoid the rush, pre-order now!
And yeah, as usual, my spotters are nowhere to be seen...or busy trying to get out of the fall line.
misha on 2003-03-23
Hey bvb, do you think you could hook me up with those threads in advance? I gotta stay ahead of the trends if I expect to keep up in this world.
jaybee on 2003-04-01
yeah, why is that guy spotting the rock? coldclimb on 2003-04-02 lol, I wondered that too Jaybee... or maybe his climber is just way up there.... A very cool shot though. This is part of why I love climbing so much.
justsendingits on 2004-03-15
That picture,and more importantly,Bob Van Gough's commentary on his ensemble made me spew my food on my keyboard!!!
sarcat on 2004-05-24
I think I had the same shorts at one time. This is the best "classic" pic on the site.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2010 - 02:18am PT
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"Bob Van Gough's commentary on his ensemble made me spew my food on my keyboard!!!"
Dang, that really make's you sound old Bob, lol!
Btw, who is the blonde guy in the bottom right?
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Graham N
Social climber
temecula
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Jan 28, 2010 - 12:52pm PT
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SOMEWHAT off topic but i thought maybe id find a willing soul in here... Gonna hike up to the T Domes soon and im looking for anyone willing to come along. The northern domes are pretty easy access since the hill still hasnt fully recovered from the fire a few years back. Any takers?
If not, see you all in march. haha. Thanks for the ideas on the face climbs. To answer the question earlier about how specifically .12 i meant i was pretty much thinking 11a - 12b. After that i dont think i have the technique to keep myself on the rock. haha. and cracks... sheeeet i think i might have to stick to 5.10 and down haha. not my biggest strength. Anyone wanna take me under their wing?
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Jan 28, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
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Hello all, I was sent here to post some current images of what has been going down this season.
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Jan 28, 2010 - 02:06pm PT
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And yes, we still sit up on this rock and debate whether we are heavy enough to warrant clipping into the belay bolt (just like 20 years ago). Some things never change. Chaz literally "ties in"...
Chazzy's first trip up the Prince:
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2010 - 02:37pm PT
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Should I put you on the list Pointbrk? Anyone else that you know of that's coming?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2010 - 02:40pm PT
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So, you did that on your b-day Johnny? Let me guess, you look like you're at the Hawaii..."Five-O" mark now? (j/k)!
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Jan 28, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
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Yes I will come. I'll give a call out to the JT old school crew and see who I can talk into coming out. I may be able to host some of the crew at my place in Encinitas. We are heading out today to a "secret" area in VC near the Leichtfuss property...
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 28, 2010 - 03:14pm PT
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Yeah another view of "I would die for you." After Cilley did the first in'85 or so there was a handful of us that made early ascents and I would do it every time I went to solo "Jaws." Back then it got an .11+, do you guys still think it's that hard?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 28, 2010 - 03:16pm PT
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I always figured it for B1-, or Woodson 12a. The high backstep with the left foot was always a bother for me. Didn't Cilley call it 5.11c?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 03:24pm PT
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That place ain't secret, but I ain't telling nothing either. Going out there this weekend with the Leichtfuss "crew". Let us know how the bouldering was!
Peace
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 28, 2010 - 03:25pm PT
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Yeah Bob, come to think of it he did...That's why I was giving it the benefit of the doubt...Yeah Ron, Yerian called me and told me he was down there at Lynne's, it was great talking to him again! We had alot to catch up on and some words about our pal JB's passing...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Jan 28, 2010 - 04:01pm PT
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Allied Climbers of San Diego.....held a meeting Tuesday night and discussed the Woodson Reunion.
On left, darling Keli our secretary, across Jeff Brown, CEO and right front, Gary McCay (our own illusion dweller.)
Woodson Reunion or Bust......right to left are Kelly and Ron Gomez, Gary McCay and Dave Yerian.
Tshirt idea presented by Gary
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Jan 28, 2010 - 04:24pm PT
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Hey Gary, sorry to crash your reverie, but I've got a few facts to go along that photo. It's Deerhorn, not Woodson. The blonde guy on the right, offering a typical spot for the era, is BeeHay. BVB was just flapping his gums about Woodson, offering up a little disinformation to troll the masses.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Jan 28, 2010 - 04:36pm PT
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Wlid Turkey, gonamok, now what kind of name is that? I should report you to Mighty Hiker. Just kidding. That's an mpressive list. By the way, the Painted Boulder's original hard route was called Goeddel's move - as in, Dave Goeddel.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 04:52pm PT
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Hey MIKE! Great you and Dave talked, going out with Yerian this weekend to check out this "secret area", REALLY looking forward to getting on the rock again and hanging with my brother Dave. Glad you got to talk to him about JB, Dave has been, along with Kelly, a BIG help in helping me through this oh so tough time dealing with John's death. My offer still stands, you have a place to hang at WHEN you come down for the Woodson deal. It won't be the same without you. If you have some slides or dvd of BITD bring it with you, along with a copy of yer Mom's book!
Peace Brother
Hope yer well
Ron
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 28, 2010 - 05:14pm PT
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WTF???...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 28, 2010 - 05:20pm PT
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asdf
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 28, 2010 - 05:35pm PT
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Not interesting, back to climbing.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 28, 2010 - 05:38pm PT
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what do people call starving in stereo these days? used to get .12+ -- a rare grade indeed for a tr crack at woodson. i don't think it ever got soloed, at least not that i heard about.
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 28, 2010 - 05:46pm PT
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I'm pretty sure people call it 12a these days which is a big bag of sand. That's interesting you guys called it 12+ Definitely hard. I'm finding that you need to get your fingers in the right locks in order to move through the crux well. And it's crazy how important your feet are on this one. I had to pretty much "hug" the rock with my feet to keep myself on.
A solo would be proud!
Edit: Thanks for the work put in to clear out the base of this one. I tried it a while back and the crux at that time was hiking through the manzanita.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 06:38pm PT
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heh greg, we may or may not have been packing a half pint of liquid courage that day.
ron
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 06:47pm PT
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oh and my 2 pennies on I would die for you...I called it hard 11+, whatever that means. And a note on pruneface - one of the best highball face climbs on the hill for my money...Fry's guide shows michael on the "first ascent" credited to shawn curtis - nah. I spotted MP on the FA and backed off myself. The next day Rick Allenby and I and MP did the second (3rd, 4th in that order). It is a horror show for short n squat types like myself, but what a line.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 28, 2010 - 07:02pm PT
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Yeah Ron! We were pretty fit back in those days! You also got me, Shawn got the picture in Craig's guide "Re-enacting the FA."
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 07:09pm PT
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yah mike, tell me those werent some of the best days ever checking out routes for your woodson guide. You had a hard time making a cutoff point because we were finding so much new stuff! you are like my little brother man, i cant wait to see you again.
ron
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 07:45pm PT
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whew
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 07:47pm PT
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Rick Allenby on Checkered Demon 11c
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Jan 28, 2010 - 08:23pm PT
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Nice shot of Epperson; not just a talented photographer who helped change the game of climbing photography, the man could crank too.
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 28, 2010 - 08:32pm PT
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I've been chopping out the approaches and the bases of many of the climbs with help. Starving is one. I would die for you is pretty hard, I'd give it a V4/5. I did break off part of the first left hand face hold stepping off it so who knows now, easier or harder, depends on how it broke. Sharp little bugger though that you had to get just right. I did spend a few days working it prior to sending and had lots of energy and encouragement flowing from friends and onlookers below.
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 28, 2010 - 09:16pm PT
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Right on, thanks Johann, see you up there this weekend?
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 10:48pm PT
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help me out here, whats V4/5 in decimal rating?
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jan 28, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
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You mean the conversion charts that I created for Sherman? Heh.
Curt
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 11:13pm PT
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thanks bob
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jan 28, 2010 - 11:16pm PT
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You're welcome.
Curt
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 11:26pm PT
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lol thanks curt
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 28, 2010 - 11:27pm PT
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Hey bob i just came across something that was supposed to go in the mail back when you were in utah
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 28, 2010 - 11:46pm PT
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ha! i've still got alla your classic 'toons from the 80's woodson scribblefests. if only had a scanner...
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 28, 2010 - 11:50pm PT
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Just listen for music and sawing, smell for weed and booze, and you'll find us. Temps will be good this weekend.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Jan 29, 2010 - 12:01am PT
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Yes, I was that "blonde guy" "spotter" "who needs glasses".
That pic was indeed on a Deerhorn thread with my name attached.
Everyone knows that a Bee Hay Spot involves, pointing to a (landing) spot on the ground, and the generous advice, "that's your spot".
Honestly, I don't remember the day. I was most likely scouting a "real problem", not aided by some homo seam.
BH
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 29, 2010 - 12:03am PT
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Wow...Now that sounds like an epic brush clearing fest Johannsolo...
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 12:36am PT
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And this is? Talked about earlier, easy to guess.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 12:47am PT
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Looking straight up what well known problem?
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 29, 2010 - 12:54am PT
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would that be top secret file?
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 29, 2010 - 12:54am PT
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Looking straight up Go with the Flow?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 01:07am PT
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Correct, and Correct. Dang Eliot, too easy.
This seems to have that killer late in the day Woodson feel to it, eh? The two problems in the picture are?
Went to the base for a quick eyeball, doesn't look like they've been done for awhile.
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 29, 2010 - 01:27am PT
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Great pics Henny. I wish I could have made it out today. Looks like it was another great day up there.
Those gotta be Laker Girls and Bad Boys from Detroit?
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Graham N
Social climber
temecula
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Jan 29, 2010 - 01:40am PT
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heading down there on sunday... anyone else gonna be wandering around?
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 29, 2010 - 01:47am PT
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Henny, we should have got a pic of that arete you were on at the end of the day. I think it's only been done by two, maybe three people.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 01:49am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. ? Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 01:52am PT
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Didn't figure I was going to actually stump anybody, and I was right. Yes, and yes - but you knew that.
Has anybody over 5' tall been able to do Laker Girls? I heard rumor that because Lydia put it up there's a height limit on it.
It was really nice late in the afternoon. Bummer was I only had a few hours because I got hung up at work.
I have one more but the insert photo keeps hanging right now.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 02:28am PT
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Wow. Either the site is/was really unresponsive or the internet here went way south.
Kinda foreshortened and doesn't really do the problem justice, but what is it?
It would be cool if somebody could get some decent pictures of it. With action.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 29, 2010 - 03:35am PT
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I always loved this one Ron!!
After some quality overhanging jug pulling it had the stellar Dyno finish!! (By the way that looks like our Rick Allenby in action..)
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Jan 29, 2010 - 03:44am PT
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Is that looking down Eppy's B-Day? I've always wanted to try that one.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 03:54am PT
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I believe that's the other side of Eppi's B-Day Eliot...it spanked us all one day, Henny, Johnny, Chaz and I! Still not sure what it is called.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 03:56am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. ? Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. ? Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 29, 2010 - 09:47am PT
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That arete is called 'slap you silly' V15?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 02:04pm PT
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Yeap, right next to Eppy's. Slaaaappp you silly. Unknown rating, was it ever given an actual non-sandbag rating? I don't know of one, and it never seemed to matter.
Did better this time but no cigar. I could almost understand how I did it before. Hopefully next time.
It's not much of a mystery... start slapping and hope you get to the top.
Eliot - Eppy's is worth doing. From the same anchor, flip the rope around the corner and you get Slap You Silly. If you haven't done Deport Jonny on that boulder, I would also recommend that - for sure.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 02:10pm PT
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I'm pretty sure people call it 12a these days which is a big bag of sand. That's interesting you guys called it 12+ Definitely hard.
How did it end up at 12a? That seems pretty stout, at least IMO. Somebody with 1/8" thick fingers rating it or something?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 02:24pm PT
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Speaking of "Slap You Silly" arete, walk past/behind Uncertainty Principle boulder towards Hellrazor and you'll come across the wide Eric's Crack, 5.9. The left arete that forms the left side of Eric's Crack has been done by some young mutant. They are calling it "Harbringer" and rating it 5.13d. And you think "Slap You Silly" is hard, take a look at this thing!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 02:27pm PT
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Darrell, are you referring back to Starving in Stereo? For that's where that statement was in reference to. And are you saying that the rating is "pretty stout" or the climb is harder than 5.12?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 02:33pm PT
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I'm saying I think 12a is a stout rating for Starving in Stereo. ie, seems harder than that to me. I have no idea what it should be rated exactly, maybe just 12+ as was mentioned earlier. Just my opinion.
Edit:
By comparison (although ratings are subjective) Lie Detector is given 12b (or so I see). I personally had more trouble doing Starving in Stereo than Lie Detector.
Is 12b what most people think Lie Detector is? Just curious. I've never tried or wanted to assign letters to those crack things.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
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I just sent you an email Darrell for I'm thouroughly confused, lol!
I can't do either, Starving or Lie Detector! Anyway, I don't see how to hang on to that chip/flake above the jams on Starving to set up for the next crappy sequence! I've always used climbs like Starving as a bench mark for 5.12's up there and that's why I always say I can't do 5.12's! Humbling either way.
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Bart Fay
Social climber
Redlands, CA
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Jan 29, 2010 - 03:17pm PT
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Seriously, Mr. Chicken. Are you on The Juice now ?
Performance enhancing poultry rations.
You should be in an old Cocks home somewhere by now, not sending
these knarly highball problems. WTF, Over ?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 29, 2010 - 03:21pm PT
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fwiw, i think that starving is definately harder than lie detector. a lot harder, even. there was a time i could huck laps at will on lie detector. that was never the case with starving. that crux move where the crack peters out was always hit-or-miss. on any given day, assuming good conditions (like, winter weather), it was a crapshoot as to whether or not i'd get up the thing.
starving was used as a climb-off in the '86 contest between the four folks tied for second, and nobody got up it that day. the weather was quite cool and conditions were perfect.
sucker is hard.
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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Jan 29, 2010 - 03:34pm PT
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I wonder if there's some trick to Lie Detector that I'm missing. That thing just hurts, no feet, and seems ungodly difficult. I stopped even looking at it or trying it a while back. I've done Starving in Stereo, and I'm pretty certain I could do it again in 2 tries or so. I also heard stories of people putting hose clamps on their fingers so that they would fit in Lie Detector. I'm just not that motivated, I guess.
Josh
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jan 29, 2010 - 03:42pm PT
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The ratings of short finger cracks are a moving target, even more than on most boulder problems.
Not enough moves to even out the disparities caused by differences in finger size.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 03:49pm PT
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One of those opening jams in Lie Detector hurts me pretty bad too. If I don't do it I need to sit around for a bit until it quits hurting before trying again. Seems like deciding you're really going for it (turn off mind) helps. I use some face holds for my feet, even liebacking against a vertical edge with my feet early on.
I suspect honed crack daddy-o's just walk up and yard up the thing on the bomber locks. eh?
Love that thing - if I can do it. The upper crack is a nice reward.
I've personally witnessed the clamps in action on Lie Detector. It's not just stories.
klk - good point.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 29, 2010 - 04:11pm PT
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even liebacking against a vertical edge with my feet early on.
exactly. i use the same edge to get a lieback out of the worse jams. it's on the right hand side of the crack.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 04:21pm PT
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Yeap, exactly. I then backstep with the left foot on a small edge that is close to the crack (left of the crack.) Pretty much the only reasonable hold in the area. If you can push that out a little you're into the better locks and it's more like pure crack from there.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 29, 2010 - 04:48pm PT
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it sounds like we independently developed nearly identical beta. i do the same backstep with my left foot. then i go big for a thumbs-down two-fingertip lock with my left hand, first jam above the shallow groove.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 29, 2010 - 05:13pm PT
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I've gone with both left/right in the next lock. It must not be so critical anymore. if I go left I bet I do the whole bottom pretty much exactly like you. using the right makes you do a long right cross over higher though.
Funny. I wonder how many other ways there are to do it.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 29, 2010 - 06:18pm PT
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Funny. I wonder how many other ways there are to do it.
yeah -- some of the other folks who've done lie detector should chime in!
oh, wait....
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 29, 2010 - 06:31pm PT
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I've done it. Small stoppers and aiders and it goes really easy. As far as starving in stereo goes, I had that thing wired.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jan 29, 2010 - 06:34pm PT
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Well, it sounds like we'll all need to assemble at "Lie Detector" and see if the thing lives up to its name.
Curt
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jan 29, 2010 - 07:12pm PT
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yeah -- some of the other folks who've done lie detector should chime in!
oh, wait....
ya got me.
i don't even know which one it is.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 29, 2010 - 07:28pm PT
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I heard it got it's name because a couple of climbers were claiming the F.A. so they met up and the lie detector proved one of the right. I think it's one of the hardest short cracks anywhere.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Jan 29, 2010 - 07:32pm PT
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yeah -- some of the other folks who've done lie detector should chime in!
oh, wait....
My special beta was to just lower down on a top rope and climb the upper finger crack...
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jan 29, 2010 - 07:33pm PT
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Hey Kerwin,
I last bouldered at Woodson in 85, so I'll be lucky to just find the mountain.
Curt
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jan 29, 2010 - 07:39pm PT
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i bouldered at woodson maybe three times in 15 years in socal.
twice cuz i was in sd for something else, and a 3rd time 'cuz i had to go back for ms.
but that's one time more than i bouldered at rubidoux.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 29, 2010 - 09:10pm PT
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asdf -- i bet lie detector saw more ascents between 1983 - 1990 than it's seen since.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 29, 2010 - 09:27pm PT
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BVB, I believe your right about that.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 09:31pm PT
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When's the last time you were able to photo the entire line of IHMT?
Razor's Edge is clear now and the fat layback/crack, 5.9 on Sunday Afternoon Boulder is also clear.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 29, 2010 - 09:46pm PT
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Good work on the clean up Gary!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 30, 2010 - 12:06am PT
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forgot all about this. from 25 years ago. when i first did lie detector i drew a move topo for it in my woodson notebook, including how many tries it took me.
ah, the obsession of youth. maybe i'll recapture it someday.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 30, 2010 - 12:34am PT
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i guess starving in stereo gave me some trouble.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 30, 2010 - 01:07am PT
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Heres the project i call "the vision"
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 01:13am PT
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Those notes impress me evertime I see them!
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jan 30, 2010 - 01:22am PT
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Hey BVB,
You got a move topo for Pet Tree? Heh.
Curt
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 01:25am PT
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That Woodson? That's one huge boulder!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 30, 2010 - 02:00am PT
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good stuff bvb.
Starving in Stereo must have drawn blood, judging by the picture.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Jan 30, 2010 - 02:06am PT
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ok, hacked one end off my rat chewed rope to make it 30m instead of 60m.
I have dubbed it my "Woodson TR Rope"
still probably not dialed in precise Woodson local length, but it will do.
now to see about finding some 1" tubular for a swami... (just kidding, I ain't that crazy, but i may bust out the old Shweenard Whillans knock off, if I fit in it.)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 02:35am PT
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That gave me an idea! Everyone (back-in-the-day crowd) show up with red, 4" tubular for a swami and a piece of carpet...NO PADS ALLOWED! Well, okay, somebody bring one pad so I don't rebreak my ankle again (ice climbing fall, '07).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 02:54am PT
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THERE! At the bottom of the notes, "Pit Bull", a Ray Olson creation up at the summit, just over the ridge on the south face. Overhanging L to R flake to a sloping topout. Getting to the TR anchor is the first crux! This was put up many years before the Pit Bull on Tower #1.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 03:32am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 03:55am PT
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Bob D'Antonio confirmed today.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 30, 2010 - 09:52am PT
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I didnt know Ray named a route Pit Bull...Me and Michael Paul did the little ditty we called pit bull on tower one in 1986. I was actively collecting route info in those days and not many new ones got by me, especially stuff my friends put up. I cant believe a ray olsen route slipped under my radar!
dayum
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 30, 2010 - 09:57am PT
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Re: the vision, yep its woodson, and its right in plain sight in a heavily trafficked area too. In fact i wouldnt be surprised if its been done by now.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 30, 2010 - 10:00am PT
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Is anyone in contact with Werner Landry? We need to get an invite to him if we can.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 30, 2010 - 11:20am PT
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Hey BVB,
You got a move topo for Pet Tree? Heh.
Curt
yep, but it's your sequence and i can't do it.
you hurted my feelings.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 12:48pm PT
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Now Ron, I was just going by what circulated up on Woodson about the same time in '85-'86. I recall a friend of mine, Ken Klis out of Rancho Bernardo at that time, brought me up to show me this new Ray Olson route called "Pit Bull" 5.11 up at the summit. But now that you're saying that the Tower #1 route was put up around the same time, it's starting to sound as if this was misinterpreted for the other. But that makes me wonder now, what is the name of the route at the summit, who did it, and when? You know, even Ray doesn't recall putting this route up but states that he could of but just doesn't remember. I've mentioned this "Pit Bull" a few times on supertopo and haven't had anyone chime in or claim it. When your post of Pit Bull appeared on rc.com, "Submitted by: ronamick on 2002-12-05", I assumed (I know, I know) this was the date it went up and jumped to conclusions, and hence my, "...put up many years before..." statement, my bad.
I'll have to make the trudge back up there and take a picture of it and post it.
Humility, good stuff!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 01:13pm PT
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Curt! I see you posting quite a bit lately...can I remove the "?" mark from your name?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Jan 30, 2010 - 01:25pm PT
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Hey!
How did I lose the coveted position #7? What's up with that?
Not that it matters.
I smell a conspiracy!
Klimmer
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 30, 2010 - 01:27pm PT
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gary, the pit bull on my 1986 tick list was the one ron and rick did up above hear my train.
they sandbagged me on it.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 02:23pm PT
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Just random rearranging Klimmer.
On my way as we speak to Woodson. Gonna photo that boulder.
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Jan 30, 2010 - 05:27pm PT
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"Hey!
How did I lose the coveted position #7? What's up with that?
Not that it matters.
I smell a conspiracy!
Klimmer"
Klimmer, I went from #12 down into the sixties,
I wouldn't mind slipping a few more, 69 has always been a personal favorite of mind
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Jan 30, 2010 - 07:30pm PT
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Illusion, I could be wrong, but if Ray didn't put up pit bull at the top, it might have been the same guys that put up those leads over by fall semester. They are the ones that took me over to do it. Eddie Bebout? and his buddies?
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 30, 2010 - 10:39pm PT
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Another perfect day at Woodson, cold in the shade. Got on Laker girls with the button head and rusty stud for the anchor. Not bad till the blank section sraight up to the anchors. Do you go straight up or out right where there are holds. Here are some pics of a couple of climbs. Anyone know them?
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Jan 30, 2010 - 11:01pm PT
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Maybe you mean Korean Cowboy,
Too hard for me
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 11:10pm PT
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F10...those are potential names if nobody identifies them ie; Korean BBQ is a play on Korean Cowboy.
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Jan 30, 2010 - 11:30pm PT
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One of the few things that I can remember about Woodson is you used to park in a little dirt lot where that house is now.
Might be kinda nice now for some of us duffer's to get a head start on hoofing up the hill
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 31, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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i don't recognize that scoop problem but it looks great. where on the hill is it?
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Jan 31, 2010 - 12:49am PT
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Here's another shot...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 31, 2010 - 01:44am PT
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oh, it's beneath that big boulder across the road from big grunt?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 03:46am PT
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You got it Bob.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 31, 2010 - 04:37am PT
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Korean Cowboy is a short but muy difficult problem on a solitary boulder thats hidden in the bushes south of the road a bit before the jump off to seminar wall. Another epperson harder-than-it-looks (his specialty) problem that we called B1, but nobody ever did. Allenby may have repeated it, but he was a gorilla back then. I tried it many times and always fell at the same spot, where your body swings to the left and youre supposed to counter the swing with a RH huck to this shallow little dish that amounts to a cruel hoax.
Greg is way underrated as climber. At his peak he was one of the best boulderers anywhere, and on mantles he was in his own class. Gregs routes and problems tend to be aesthetic and difficult and always climbed in exempliary style. Greg has produced so many classic test pieces that have stood the test of time, and his personal committment to the highest ethical standards is uncompromising.
His success as a photographer sort of overshadowed gregs climbing career, but he didnt just make his mark on san diego climbing, he left a legacy.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 31, 2010 - 04:41am PT
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I remember doing Korean Cowboy myself back in the day...It was quite hard if I remember right...
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 31, 2010 - 05:05am PT
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youre right bob, rick was in on the FA of pit bull too.
On pit bull- im pretty sure theres only one route with that name, which is a reference to the narrow gap or "pit" in which the line is situated (pit viper was also considered). Its not uncommon for route info to get confused over time and morph into some totally erroneous thing at woodson. Everything is so spread out it just happens.
Ray always put alot of work into his routes - clearing access, landings and down climbs, fixing anchors etc...and if he doesnt remember the route you are talking about im pretty sure i would. Hey Ray, the altzheimers catching up to you? welcome to the club then. If a pic doesnt solve the mystery we will have to drag the woodson brain trust up to look at it. One of the woodson living history dudes will know the story
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 31, 2010 - 05:15am PT
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Sorry mike, i forget to credit you sometimes because back then you were doing literally everything on the hill. Didnt mean to gyp you. As i recall you cranked it handily, but if rick got it, and im pretty sure he did, it was after weeks of trying. I know because he drug me there against my will until i was totally sick of it.
I put up a thing nearby for a consolation prize that i called cowboy polka, now faded into appropriate obscurity
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 31, 2010 - 05:22am PT
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3 anonymous hardmen casting their shadow on the east wall of the vomitorium. The chalked hold beneath the lefthand figure is Allenbys desperately sick and unrepeated "death vomit"
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 31, 2010 - 08:54am PT
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Heres one for you Michael from way back inda day...
MP on the FA of General Dynamics 5.10d/11a at Mission Gorge 1979
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jan 31, 2010 - 08:56am PT
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Heres whats left of Amick today...still out there, but nobody knows why
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Graham N
Social climber
temecula
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Jan 31, 2010 - 11:53am PT
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gonna be wandering around with a friend today. if you see a guy in a burgundy cap and a matching red beard, dont hesitate to come over and criticize my climbing. haha
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 31, 2010 - 12:40pm PT
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Wow, classic Ron!! You remember after we did the FA on General Dynamics a young and psyched Rick Corbin ran up the trail to bag the second? We stayed around the parking area cheering encouragement until we saw him fire it, yelling our praise up at him! RIP, Rick Corbin, a real brother...
Tweaked a little in Photoshop:
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 31, 2010 - 01:08pm PT
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what year was that vawto? yer lookin' like you got a proper sw0le on...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 31, 2010 - 01:11pm PT
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One of the woodson living history dudes will know the story
i'm here for ya, babe. wadda ya wanna know?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 31, 2010 - 02:42pm PT
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i'm here for ya, babe. wadda ya wanna know?
Oh great all knowing wise one, keeper of all Woodson knowledge, great seer and understander of the mysterious Woodson continuum. I humbly request that you peer (well, as old as you are, maybe squint would be a better term) into the dark swirling black clouds that now seem to so completely obscure those magical boulders and days of yore, from the time known as BITD. If you would be so considerate as to conjure up an answer for me, from back in the days of magnets and miracles...
Sheesh, I just hate it when I gotta grovel like that cause I can't remember something.
I called Powell recently to try and sort out some past history. That dude's memory is so bad I'm lucky he remembered to answer the phone while it was ringing. Talk about a complete and utter waste of my time.
Back to the shoe doping days... Dan, KP, and me had the usual Woodson/Rubidoux thing going but with doping thrown into the mix. Dan even came down to Rubidoux a couple times in an attempt to hook us on the juice. Pretty good story from one of those trips, but more appropriate for Rubidoux. Anyway, how many problems did Dan do while using performance enhancing compounds on the shoes? What were the hardest 3 or 4 of those problems? Top Secret File was the hardest, right?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 31, 2010 - 03:01pm PT
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Trip reports would be good. There had to be a bunch of you that made it out today, post some pics, eh?
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jan 31, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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Hey Gary,
I'll be there for sure, unless a work-related conflict comes up. Thanks.
Curt
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 31, 2010 - 03:53pm PT
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What were the hardest 3 or 4 of those problems? Top Secret File was the hardest, right?
to tell you the truth i missed out on most of the DL shoe doctoring era, and i only know of two of his problems for sure -- top secret file and head first in the bushes. pretty sure he did the 2nd ascent of airstream, so that makes three problems i know of where shoe doping was a significant factor.
the shoe doping only mattered on extreme friction problems -- not so much a big deal on the sreeper routes.
eppi would know for sure.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 04:23pm PT
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I have those photos but this BlackBerry won't let me post them! Will put them up later. I hope someone recognizes them.
Met up with Johnny and Chas who were out tearin' it up as usual!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 06:11pm PT
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Much later than the Mike's first ascent in '92 I took my Paramedic class from Southwestern College, Chula Vista, CA, to the Gorge and did a ropes course for them for extra credit. I couldn't leave without first doing G.D. for the group....
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 06:17pm PT
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Okay, I'm home and here's the boulder from standing on the top edge of the southwest face looking down. The climb is on the overhanging east face...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 06:21pm PT
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This is the boulder looking directly at it's overhanging east face...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 06:26pm PT
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While trying to obtain a picture from a different angle, I shimmied to the top of the boulder next to it and low and behold I found these!...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 06:28pm PT
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Looking north towards the towers...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 06:31pm PT
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The bush signifies the start...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 06:33pm PT
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This behemoth sits northeast of it...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 06:36pm PT
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With a 1/4" bolt ladder heading up it's overhanging, southwest face...
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 31, 2010 - 07:30pm PT
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Wow Gary, that overhanging face you spied with the diagonal slashes looks awesome!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 07:40pm PT
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That's the problem that's in question with the two bolts with chain links on top. I was told this was Pit Bull back in 85-86 but now it appears to be misinformation.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Jan 31, 2010 - 09:50pm PT
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I happened to see Lydia while I was bouldering today. I told her about the gig in March, and that she should check out this thread. Sounds like Rick is still in the Truckee area, but no one knew how to get in touch with him.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 10:45pm PT
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Lol....you hit it right on the head...the topout is sloper! But, the climbing is classic up to that point and the topout is the crux at 5.10d/ 5.11.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 31, 2010 - 10:46pm PT
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i had the same thought. it looks like a really good five-star jug haul.
somebody set up the tr!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 11:00pm PT
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Another classic shot of Rick Piggot during his free attempt of Phd when he took his fourty foot ground fall...and walked away!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 11:02pm PT
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Yup, we can't forget about all the routes that are just plain fun to 'peat and repeat up on Woodson! It's all about the climbing!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Jan 31, 2010 - 11:03pm PT
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Jugs are always nice!!
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jan 31, 2010 - 11:05pm PT
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But....those jugs look like wet slopers. Heh
Curt
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 11:34pm PT
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Okay you guys, my wife is standing behind me right now watching those "jugs" and comments. Back to climbing...
David from England walking through the classic undercling on the left practice boulder with illusiondweller spotting and giving beta '09...
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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OOPS, sorry Gary...I'll fix that last shot...
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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today me and my friend The Sonj (aka s.d.) cruised down to Woodson for some fun crack-a-lackin'.
Sonj warming up on Elephant Trunk.
Then it was over to Right Long's for a spot of OW. Sonj rockin' some funky scissor-feet beta.
Then we headed down to Hard as Nails. No photos but Sonj sent in fine style, on sight. As for myself, well...maybe next weekend.
Then it was up to California Night. No go for s.d. But I knocked it off...
We took a quick run up the Robbins Crack, where we bumped into Clark Jacobs and Co. He's always got some kind words and a big smile.
And lastly a lap on the Razor's Edge to round out the day...
Peace.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 02:17am PT
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Looks as if you're climbing strong Gonz! You available during the week at all? Check your email and drop me a line.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 02:54am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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I would have to say that stealth bomber is the hardest (also longest and most classic) of Dans doctored shoe routes. Stealth Bomber is the steep friction scoop around the corner to the right of ricks ramp, on the same boulder.
When does cleaning the soles become doctoring? I always carry a stiff brush at woodson to keep the soles clean, and found that a soft wire brush produces the same effect as filing. Doping or cleaning? It comes down to intent. If you aid a crack over and over for the purpose of creating clmbable pin scars, your pitons become chisels and your aid climbing becomes doctoring.
If you nailed the crack over and over because you just love to climb it, the resulting pin scars are only a consequence of your style of ascent, and if those scars enable the crack to be free climbed, that climb is legitimate acording to traditional yosemite free climbing ethics (see serenity crack, church bowl tree, sacherer cracker etc.).
There are no ethical absolutes - it all comes down to intent.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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You know Ron, I think any climber that is attempting a difficult face, friction climb fastidiously cleans the soles...I used to get my boots, (what I called squeeky clean,) where I could actually get the soles to stick together, telling me I had the best chance for success...
Oops!! Wrong shot...Meant this one...
Shameless Ray Olson plug with my ultimate favorite orange Frog Bag!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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yeah mike, and i remember there used to be a high degree of variability in fires. every now and then you'd get a pair that was so sticky right out of the box that if you pasted the soles together they'd actually stick to one another. not all fires were like that -- some pairs seemed to have stickier rubber than others.
although the shoes didn't fit quite as well as today's rigs, i think that the really tacky batches may have had the stickiest rubber i've ever seen.
the softer pairs would also tend to wear out really fast, but it was all good. it was more than worth it to have shoes that would paste to anything.
ron -- damn, but i don't think i ever tried stealth bomber. i must not have even known about it, 'cause it doesn't show up on my old ticklists. WTF??!?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Yeah, don't get me wrong. I didn't/don't actually have a problem with the shoe doping thing. Harmless, IMO, as the rock isn't/wasn't affected. Dan was our friend, it was more of a fun competition thing we had going, trying to prove the stuff wasn't needed. Although of course, it got played up with the smack talk.
I'm not sure I know where Rick's Ramp is, so I'm not sure where the Stealth Bomber is. A quick comment on the location of the boulder/problems? Stealth Bomber sure sounds familiar to me now that I hear the name - that's the kind of thing I was hoping for.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 11:44am PT
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Any idea Ron/Bob what that climb is that I posted? And Ricks Ramp, I know that name but I can't picture it. Educate me too!
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Here's a couple pics from Sunday at the summit. Both are on the same boulder on oposite sides (E and W). The South side has a very good TR slab that we needed to pull on the rope to get started. I don't think the 2nd one has been done but ?.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 11:56am PT
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Is that some cool climbing or what Johnny?! U get that overhanging side without a rope, a bit highball no? Those are some pretty pictures! Its so gorgeous in San Diego right now, sigh*
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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the softer pairs would also tend to wear out really fast, but it was all good. it was more than worth it to have shoes that would paste to anything.
You could always tell when you had some of that stickiest rubber - they would form prominent scales as they wore. Powell got some of that rubber on his first pair, and he was constantly sticking them under people's noses as proof that he was the only one with foot-work impeccable enough to get the rubber to wear properly. Talk about annoying.
I got some of that rubber recently on a resole. It did wear out very quickly, but man, was that stuff ever sticky. When those soles needed replacing I showed it to Puppo, and he said it was probably from a defective batch of rubber.
I'm thinking if I ever get more of that rubber I may stash the shoes away and just pull them out for the most serious smearing problems. Wicked sticky stuff.
 Nice trip reports, and pictures. Making me jealous here.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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rick's ramp is down hill from the painted boulder. from painted boulder you walk east on the flats until you are even with the cluster of rocks where .10a on the outside is, then head downhill (south). rick's ramp faces east on a big boulder maybe 5 minutes down the hill. i only did it once. probably sometime in the late 70's.
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Should have just done it!
Just another road side attraction:
Private Property (Matt Bebee on a 30' 5.11 (just off fingers), thrilling for sure)
And finally for JW (don't forget):
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 09:09pm PT
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You have me standing on my head on that first one Pointbrk...rotate that thing!
That fingercrack and sail formation on Woodson?
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Pointbrk,
where is that off-fingers crack? That looks sick!
-Nick
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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wtf, where is this??!?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Wow! Some great stuff up since my absence! Loved the shot of soloing that overhanging mystery route! I myself don't recognize it...But I am getting aged...But it sure looks cool! Also that finger crack looks stellar, and to see a shot of Matt Beebe...Brings back such cool memories! I've known Matt since he was just a young kid in Idyllwild. I'd see him all the time when I was hiking my clients up to Suicide as he lived right by the trailhead. He's really a super dude and I'm really proud to see how well he turned out...Climber and Man! If anyone sees him please let him know that Michael Paul sends his best!
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Woodson once removed. Imagine finding a Mount Woodson. Someone did. Although access is not an issue, it would be if too many people came out. I would love nothing more than to have people working trails, landings, and problems; even the founders (some of the nicest guys in the world) recognize how beneficial it would be. Access would become an issue (I beleive it is on private property) and I was asked politely not to leak it. Maybe if they get drunk enough....
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 11:08pm PT
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Just walked up Woodson today with a heavy pack and my four year old when I ran into "Eric" on Eric's Face (he wasn't aware of the name of the route he was on), on Robbins Boulder, being belayed by his pal, "Val"...
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Mike,
Matt would love to see you again I'm sure. We have met a few times (probably more at the saloon). I lived in JT from about 93 - 03, and have been (trying to) repeat your stuff here (and there) since '89. Matt is one of my dearest friends and will hopefully be at woodson for this event. Then we can all worship in the temple of stone together, beers included.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Awesome!! I'm really trying hard to get down there for this as I think it will probably be the most epic of gatherings!
ps, Matt's looking chill in that shot! Thanx Pointbrk!
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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No but I will post a slanderous image of the dou...
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Yeah! Epic shot of Chas, and is that you Pointbrk? The synapses were firing and I sensed familiarity...
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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suspect looking characters
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Naw, that's JW. The photographer never has any images of themselves...
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Just trying to piece together this new band of brothers that are storming the hill...Know some, but trying to fit together the missing components...Peace, MP.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 12:11am PT
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I know Mike, Johnny and Chas and Darrell are sure leaving their mark up there. I recently told them it's about time that someone has re-opened and "opened" a lot of doors up on there on the hill, I miss those good ol' days! Hence the reason for the idea of having this Shindig/Reunion in March.
As a "tag-a-long" behind you guys back then I always wanted to be able to say hello and fit in but I was the typical shy kid without as much experience as you all and chose to stay back in the wings and watch and learn. I learned a lot!
Funny that you posted your picture of you on "A Streetcar Named Desire" for ever since junior high school, in my gymnastics class, I've always wanted to be able to open up my hips like you in this picture but to this day, the more I try, the more I'm convinced that I'm going to rip something or break myself! Many others are able to do this and I'm sure it would have entered me into a different realm of climbing had I been able to do so.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 12:20am PT
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Whew, that's better!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 12:31am PT
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bump
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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No idea what that route is over the summit, but it looks awesome
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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God Bless Google Earth
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Thanx Gary, but I was always of the opinion that as some have certain strengths, others possess an aptitude towards differing ones...This is what makes us all unique and special. Every climber has his, or her own personal qualities that allow them to stand out and be counted! By the way I wanted to add,(especially after watching your cool, Hear my train solo vid,) That whatever you were striving to learn, you learned in spades!!
edit: Cheers for that Google Earth shot Ron...Too bad we didn't have that resource at our disposal BITD! My efforts in my original guide would have been that much more precise...
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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We need to designate one day as the "Main Event" so we can all be on the hill at the same time. Saturday March 20 is the logical choice, leaving sunday as a recovery/get away day.
If everyone is ok with this lets get the word out so people can make travel plans. Saturday, March 20, first day of spring...a concentration of climbing talent, the likes of which has never been seen in the entire history of humankind mobs woodson - a critical mass of burly climbing know-how hovering on the stability threshold...a fusion reaction would make Mt St Helens look like a chipmunk fart...
This is big history, be there.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 02:35am PT
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Before I'd say, "Thanks for the compliment" but gotta give Glory to God these days Mike! If you need any help getting down here let me know and I'll do what I can.
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Is Friday night then when we cache the coolers along the mountain? Does anybody have a key? SDG&E is a big client of mine. There may be something in the access department there. Additionally I am a cartographer by trade and have access to top end Trimble mapping/surveying software that we could potentially use to pool together the great knowledge that will be available there to produce something of great value for the participants...I already have the Aerial imagery at 1ft/pxl. Just a thought.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 02:43am PT
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Sounds like a cool idea Ron! Btw, bring your bull horn will ya?
I was really starting to get into your scientific storyline there Ron, the intensity of your words kept building and building then you climaxed with a Mt. St. Helen's chipmunk fart? Speaking of spoiling the mood!
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Bob - I couldnt do stealth bomber, even with filed soles and a perfectly balanced cocktail of asprin, beer and hostess pie coursing thru my veins.
i routinely spank you to tears without even having to set my beer down, and I, yes ME...I could not do it. Just forget you ever heard about it.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Sunday is Rubberdux or Santee.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Thanx Gary for your gracious offer! Will be giving it my darndest to make this...I'll be in touch, Cheers! MP. PTL!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dang Gary this is about to get 1,000 posts! I think yer idea is a hit!
Peace
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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We are only dwarfs on the shoulders of Giants.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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#1,000. score!
postcount+++, ftw.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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fukkin Johann beat me to it, by, like, seconds.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 01:23pm PT
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There you go Bob, how's that?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 01:46pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119.
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 02:46pm PT
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I think I'll be out at Santee today around 1400
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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So, how did I get so high on the list, anyhow? The only one I know, for sure, I should be ahead of is Phantom X, because I use to drag his ass up routes at Tahquitz, Suicide, and the Valley. Pulling his ass up hand over hand WAS a good workout, and it MAY have, in some small way, contributed to my modest achievements at Woodson.
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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Hey!!! Enough of that!!! You forgot the Sierra. What about the Sierra? Your making my ass sound way more important than it actually is.(not really, just sounding modest) As you can see Eeyonkee you are #2, which I was told, is code for mega cool.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 05:26pm PT
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So, can I remove the ? From your name Phantom X?
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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bOb..! You knew that ignoring my blatant, unprovoked, first-strike cheap shot would get to me more than any reply you could have crafted.
Brilliant. You become only more diabolical with age.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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i routinely spank you to tears without even having to set my beer down, and I, yes ME...I could not do it. Just forget you ever heard about it.
five words for you, lardass:
head. first. in. the. bushes.
oh, my bad. forgot you never got that one. i can give you some beta: do some pullups, lose 176 lbs, get yer tips all sw0le, and mostly, learn how to USE YOUR FEET.
i am god. I AM GOD.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Bob - I couldnt do stealth bomber, even with filed soles and a perfectly balanced cocktail of asprin, beer and hostess pie coursing thru my veins.
waitaminnit -- this is supposed to come as a surprise?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Whoa. Smaaaaaaaack.
Looks like the shindig promises to be brutal.
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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Cluck, cluck, scratch, scratch, peck, cluck. Fu#king chicken.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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I've been doing my best to just flat out ignore you, knucklehead.
Still jealous of the "talons of steel", I see.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Hey, I'm number 66! Ahead of such people as Craig Fry and Curt! Woohoo!
(who wants to start wiring problems this saturday...)
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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so i decided i needed to train. figured i'd do some pullups. tried to do one on sunday. it didn't go well.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Looks like you might be making a little progress with your smack talk training. Of course, we won't really know until you run into Powell.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Let the games begin...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 10:04pm PT
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I'm in on Saturday GDavis...leave me an email and we can swap numbers if u like.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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dude. i think removing a feature that has been inherent to the route since the day bachar did the first ascent is an even worse idea than bolting uncertainty! if you want to do a start without it, then don't use it.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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i'm gonna buy a net from a circus company,
all i need is some freaks to set it up,
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salad
climber
Escondido
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"so i decided i needed to train. figured i'd do some pullups. tried to do one on sunday. it didn't go well."
bob im in the same boat. but i do have pizza and beer in front of me so all isnt lost.
illusion - gdavis... what time r u going up sat?
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Got a late start going out to woodson today, so i decided to stay low on the hill and hit the masters of the universe area. Its a nice little group of boulders with some good problems, but its become really overgrown and i spent the first half hour busting down manzanita to re clear some of the landings. While i was doing that i spied an interesting boulder south of the developed area.
So when i was done climbing i checked that boulder out, and on its downhill side i found this outrageous overhanging horn problem, the kind that makes you go oooooooh. I dont know if its been climbed, but it needs to be. You swing off a boulder and then traverse a lip thats about 10 feet off the deck (free hanging). A couple burner moves to the horn, then deadpoint crank straight up. Its worth a look.
The pics dont do it justice at all. Way cool overhang.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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I say leave it there. My 2 cents worth.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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bob- i did head first in the bushes back before you even discovered face climbing. While you were climbing the same cracks over and over, i was sending every hard face route on the hill and adding a couple dozen of my own.
I can see how you may have repressed that memory, trauma like abject humiliation will do that.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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While you were climbing the same cracks over and over
gotta be able to do 'em in the first place before you can do 'em over and over and over.
OOOOOH BUURRNNNNN
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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why does everybody want to assert themselves by altering long standing classic routes insteading of finding new lines to climb however they please?
Because they want attention and notoriety and thats an easy way to get it.
Because they want to say "look at me! I dont need the rock so im taking it away!"
Because there are already trails, landings and anchors in place so no work is involved. Its easy.
Just leave the fking thing alone, then do some introspection and explore your true motives, if you dare.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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I remember BITD doing IHMT without the stone start, but didn't take it out. I can't say what general consensus is, but if you leave leave it I'm sure there are folks that would appreciate it. Just my 2 cents, bit FWIW let your conscience guide you brother, it's all good and I just think the brothers are just gearing up for the smackdown. But we do have to remember to treat each other with respect folks...We are all in this together...
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Did Bachar step off the stone? Simiar situation happened in Durango a few years back when a stone was removed from the base and promptly found and replaced. Last I heard, the stone was no where to be found. Does everyone just step off the stone and not start from the ground?
Edit:Just saw your post Mike and Donny.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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I couldnt do em even if it wanted to, bob. I climbed with michael for years, and during that time it was proven as absolute fact that i cannot climb cracks, so i refuse to acknowledge their existence.
Boy thats really low of you to mention my crack disability bob, i dont go around telling people you used to wear lycra.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Use the stone? I would have done that thing way sooner if I got to use the stone.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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wow, look who woke up.
edit: So Reign 1 - stay or go?
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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I'm awake, just got back from snowboarding in southern utah. I have done the route gary took pics of at the top of the hill. It's a good one. If I remember right, the set up involved climbing the slab on the north side to get to the top.
edit: the rock stays
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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i dont go around telling people you used to wear lycra
MUST...CLAW..OUT...EYES....
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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What's the story with the "KP's Demise" problem? KP as in...? This could be good.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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I haven't heard back from GDavis regarding what time Saturday so Salad, wanna make it 11ish?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 12:47am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 12:57am PT
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That's a cool looking horn Ron! I'll have to check it out.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Nice Bubs! Looks like Dave Robinson there with you, also Tom Lindner? Is that Cilley? (That pic is just a little dusty...) The Widow Bereft...I remember that thing being wicked stiff!! Fancy trousers...Bob, Brooke sent me a new metolius catalog that has us in it and I am wearing these gawdawful tropicana looking lycra...The one's I'm wearing in Goddard's "Performance Rock-Climbing" book...Man, the horror, seemed like some girls liked 'em though!
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climber
socal
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So just who the hell is making these "proposals" to bolt UP and remove the rock from HMTC? And Right Long's Crack? ...what's one thing got to do with the other? Just 'cause someone fuked up on one thing BITD doesn't mean you (or anyone) have have some sort of precedence to do whatever you want to now. Kind of logic 101. These kind of questions really shouldn't even be put to a vote. You should just realize that they're ridiculous the very instant they pop in your head. OK... end rant. And yes, I do feel a little better now!
On a more positive note... Does anyone know what the the crack is off left of the switchback at "Double Scoop"? The crack doesn't reach the ground and there is a fun arete with tr bolts on the other side of the boulder. Sorry, no pics. I know, I should really just buy a guidebook already.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 01:34am PT
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I was just pointing out Double Scoop to my four year old yesterday on the way down and I'm drawing a blank on a crack left of the switchback...?
Wide(r) crack?
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Hey Gary, maybe you feel misunderstood on the cheater stone issue, but it really is best to let it go, since a pissing match is only gonna result in harsh words and bad feelings.
By now im sure you realize that gathering a consensus is perceived as a statement of intent, which it really is, because why else would you bring it up? At least you asked for input.
Woodson is a traditional climbing area, and San Diego climbing has a traditional legacy. Its how we like to climb, and we are proud of it. Things that are ok elsewhere wont fly at woodson, and that makes woodson a cut above in my mind. Longtime Woodson climbers have alot of heart and soul invested in the hill and are very protective of everything about it.
Changing the start of a climb alters the route.
Nobodys mad at you, youre fine.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 01:46am PT
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So, speaking of my four year old, his name is Jordan for those that don't know, some of you have already met him. He was standing up at the start to Masochist Crack at Santee today and he said, "Dad, look at me." I walked over to see him nestled into the dihedral with his left fingers placed above him, thumbs up, in the crack. I proceeded to teach him a bit more when he adamantly remarked, "I know how to do it Dad, leave me alone!" Stubborn four year olds!
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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haha gary, but the great thing about this medium is that we have the ability to scroll back and get the verbatim quote to reply to instead of going on gossip.
speaking of gossip...whats this noise about bolting longs crack?? I promise that should that occur i will personally remove the bolts, find the owner and knock every bolt and hanger up his ass with a ball peen hammer then duct tape it shut and post a video of the whole procedure on youtube.
I am dead serious
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climber
socal
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the crack I'm talking about is fingers at the bottom and hands at the top. Angles left then straight up. You've seen it a million times... it's in plain view from the road, about 30m directly out from the switchback. It's a little grungy and has trees at the base. None of us could do it.
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climber
socal
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gonamok, I believe illusiondweller was trying to draw attention to the fact(?) that RLC had a boulder removed from the start a long time ago. I don't think there's any rumor of anybody wanting to bolt it.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 01:59am PT
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My oldest children...
Allisha, 21
Jason, 25
...and my youngest, Jordan, 4
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Yeah I did hear somewhere that some mechanical advantage device, (Jack, or comealong,) was used to dislodge the stone at the start of RLC. Don't know of who did it or if my story is true.
edit: Good looking kids Gary! You are blessed!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 02:12am PT
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Thank God I took another breath this morning, I have a roof over my head, and food in my stomach!
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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whew, ok...i tend to be a little excitable
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 02:23am PT
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You really do put a smile on my face Mike with your kind words.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 02:26am PT
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Okay, I deleted all my past posts on the dead issue...how about everyone else do the same? That'd clean this up once and for all. Check your emails everyone!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 03:06am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana)
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Happy is good!!!
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Where is that wantabe trash talking dimes at? Word around the watercooler is he's pretty much washed up and in hiding somewhere out by yucca valley. If he shows up at woodson, I'm gonna slap him silly! hahaha
And that route 'deport jonny' has a variation going up from the right called 'forever' and done by Rick. It's alittle harder than deport.
That big grunt lead that goes from left to right is called 'high on the hog' 5.12.a
The route Gary took pics of at the top is the route I heard called 'pit bull'. It's really good and to set up you need some minor slab climbing skills if I remember right.
Top secret file is so dependant on conditions. I tried it a bunch before success. Filing and cleaning soles was a must.
There is still more potential on that hill. Just got to go looking.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 04:17pm PT
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You hear that Ron, we have a second on "Pit Bull" at the summit!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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i'd go on to say the potential at woodson is maybe 20% tapped. stuff along the road corridor, and cherry-stemming off the road corridor, has been done but that's it. if they were to put in a new road to the top -- say from the northeast or southwest -- the amount of developed climbig would double.
just sayin'.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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You hear that Ron, we have a second on "Pit Bull" at the summit!
i think ron's pit bull was first (ca. 1985). we'll have to rename the one up top of the hill "poodle." or something to that effect.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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I've MTBed the north, south and west trails around woodson. So much stuff out there. Your probably right with the 20% tapped so far.
Rons had to be the first pit bull. How bout calling the one at top 'pit bull attacks' LOL
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 04:37pm PT
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I know that I was shown and did Pit Bull at the summit before the '86 contest. How long before, I'm not sure. I've got an email out to Olson with those pictures to see if I can jar his memory.
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gonzo chemist
climber
the Twilight Zone of someone else's intentions
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Keep posting up all the sweet pics everyone. It just adds to the never ending list of climbs to get on down there!
Anyway, NOAA.gov says the weather's gonna suck balls in Poway this weekend. I hope noaa's wrong...
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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In all fairness, the route on the summit is a higher quality, higher grade, stand alone route, as opposed to the short line that we squeezed in on Tower 1, so its more deserving of the name.
Lets call the ditty on Tower 1 "Baby pit bull". That ok with you Mike?
I agree that maybe 20% of woodsons motherlode has been mined so far. It doesnt take an expedition to find new lines either, they are just past the boundaries of whats been explored in every direction.
All it takes is curiousity and willingness to fight some brush.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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and with the proper logging tools and an enthusiastic posse, the active exploration for new gems on woodson can yield some of the best climbing days of your life. i know they did for me.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 05:43pm PT
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Check your email Nick...that's what I heard about the weather too. We need the rain but not on Saturday, lol!
if you haven't tried that problem at the summit I encourage you to try it! It climbs well and has a cruxy topout!
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Did I miss the 1000th post. Nice thread! Here is some action from today:
I hope that everyone had as good of a day as we did today.....Or have one coming up soon.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 12:01am PT
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What part of Woodson is that Pointbrk?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 12:06am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner (http://chrislindner.com);
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 12:24am PT
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Should I put Lonnie Flores and Matt Beebe and Matisse on the list or is Matisse and Matt Beebe the same? How about you Warbler?
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Pointbrk
Boulder climber
Encinitas, Scal
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Yeah I'll force them to come (I'm sure I won't need to twist too hard). Lonnie is actually related to Lynne Leichtfuss (without getting into too much detail). Those images are in SD county (barely). I hope no one minds some non Woodson imagery (I could start another thread). Can't seem to get up there every climbing day.
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matisse
climber
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matisse is a girl (perhaps the url might have been a give away?), and therefore not matt. I haven't decided. Seems like a whole buncha testosterone runnin' around. + i'm fat, injured, + out of shape.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 01:22am PT
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Just another weekend of climbing up on The Hill...a busy one at that!
Okay, you guys/gal have been added, you too, tentatively, matisse (plug included).
Anyone else have a personal URL they want next to their name?
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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matisse, grab CAC and head on up
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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seems like an unlawful assembly to me
yeah, given some of the names in that list how could it be anything but an unlawful assembly. Even with a permit.
Gary, since you've been doing "aka"s in that list, you do know who the Warbler is, right?
(hope you're doing well Warbler - some of your pics in the SD thread are killer)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 12:24pm PT
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This is all I know about the Warbler:
"They are mostly brownish or dull greenish in color. They tend to be more easily heard than seen. Identification can be difficult and may be made on the basis of song alone. To English-speaking Europeans, warblers are the archetypal "LBJs" (little brown jobs)."
Based on this seemingly appropriate description I'd have to deduct that we are looking for a person that is more than likely a crooner and I would have to take an educated guess that he/she is small statured and well tanned. Other than that I have no further information.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 04:25pm PT
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This is in NO way finished (selection of photo's, I know, I need Piggot, arrangement of figures, colors, etc.) but gives you an idea of what I've come up with so far:
A "check list" of all the classic Woodson problems printed down the front of the tshirt has been suggested. Any other ideas would be appreciated.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Hey Matisse, it was nice to meet you the last time around, and it won't be as testosterone driven as you might think. BVB & Gonamuck (both of whom were there last time) have just been playing an old game of theirs, and most of the folks are just posturing and funning around.
I guarantee you wouldn't be the only fat, injured, out of shape climber at the shindig.
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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I like that 'checklist' idea.....
By the way, where is that area in the SueHopkins.com website? I'm only familiar with the standard road up Woodson. Is that the Rexrode area? Some of those problems look awesome...
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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I guarantee you wouldn't be the only fat, injured, out of shape climber at the shindig.
All fat, injured, out of shape climbers attending the shin-dig, please raise your hand.
(Hand proudly raised with beer firmly in grip.)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 05:18pm PT
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Hey All,
Give me the (12) most classic problems up on Woodson that you'd like to see on the tshirt. Post photo's if you have them.
*See tshirt design on previous page.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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twelve? twelve?? just twelve?! can't be done. de minimus classics list is gonna be, like 120 probs. yer buggin dawg!
let's do this thing at roubidoux instead. that way we can keep the "classics" list to something more manageable, like, i dunno, maybe 2 or 3.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 05:37pm PT
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Awe come on Bob, you're already in two of them! Seriously, I have this kid working on it right now...Here's a list I just gave him:
1. BVB (Premium Miniatures)
2. Bachar (in memorium)
3. Dragon
4. TV Screen
5. Phd
6. Monkey Crack
7. Undertow (Piggot)
8. Uncertainty
9. Train
10. Robbins
11. Jaws
12. Lie Detector
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Almost every crack climb at woodson is a classic. How about the ten best offwiths. That way Henny and Dimes can't get any ticks on their shirts.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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let's do this thing at roubidoux instead. that way we can keep the "classics" list to something more manageable, like, i dunno, maybe 2 or 3.
You gotta be able to do the problem to know it's a classic. So, it sounds like you've only been able to do 2 or 3 problems total at Rubidoux, eh? That's too bad.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 05:53pm PT
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Come on, just like sitting down after a photo shoot...narrow it down to the top (12) using criteria...let's hear 'em...
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matisse
climber
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Off White,
while it is sweet of you to say so, I was a last minute no show last time (the S/O had his eyes lasered and was still home in a dark room and I didn't have the heart to leave him home alone) so there is no way you met me before. Beside you, BVB and gonamok would be high on my list of people to meet.
But,
what I really want to know is:
will there be any smokin' hot 20-years-old climbing shirtless?
will CG restrain himself or wear a thong?
will scuffy B carry my lawn chair?
will curt flame me over my choice of resoler?
will pip the dog come?
(wrings hands)
so many factors to consider
gonzo..not the rexrodes (they are pretty sweet tho, cat crack is especially good), photos are taken from the north side trail.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 05:56pm PT
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Matisse! Bob and Ron aren't no twenty year olds and I HOPE THEY ARENT GOING TO TAKE THEIR TSHIRTS OFF, ARGHHHHHHHHHHH!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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You gotta be able to do the problem to know it's a classic. So, it sounds like you've only been able to do 2 or 3 problems total at Rubidoux, eh? That's too bad.
ouch. didn't see that comin'.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2010 - 06:12pm PT
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This is in NO way finished (selection of photo's, I know, I need Piggot, arrangement of figures, colors, etc.) but gives you an idea of what I've come up with so far:
A "check list" of all the classic Woodson problems printed down the front of the tshirt has been suggested. Any other ideas would be appreciated.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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I hope the list of 10 wide classics would include Big Grunt. That's my only chance. Other than that, you got me.
Anybody else notice the vipers that seem to be hanging out in this thread? You can be going along all pleasant like, and then, KaWHAMM!!!, an unprovoked strike out of the blue.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Henny, all these oldsters better hope I don't come home drunk one of these nights. I'll trash everybody I know on here!
Dan and I used to look up to you and Powell for your trash talking skills. But Powell seems to have lost his touch and I won't get into what's wrong with you. hahaha J/K
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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roubidoux highball, ftw!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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That is just flat out wrong.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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heh. he said "highball."
so, If I was touring some dude or dudette around Woodson and this person was good enough to climb anything, this is probably what I'd take 'em too to give 'em a taste of Woodson's remarkable variety in the classics department:
Hear My Train
TV Screen (HDTV and the TV Screen Arete)
Head First In The Bushes
Hard As Nails
Right Long's Crack
Sickle Crack
Robbins
Lie Detector
Lemon Chiffon
Uncertainty
Cali Night
Jaws
Big Grunt
Starving In Stereo
Mother Superior
Digits Delight
Stairway To Heaven
Out Of Sight
Ogre
Firefly
That'd be one fine day.
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Dimes
Social climber
Thinking about Retirement
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Ah the joy of always being at the top of my game both in pulling on the "dimes" and in "smacktalking". The just comparisons bear out the weight I must constantly carry as the underlings grovel for position. It's a fine honor that has been bestowed and of course I readily accept my HUMBLE title.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Add these to bobs list -
Tower 2
control tower
starface
poison oak crack
go with the flow
razors edge
pruneface
rockwork orange
test tube
american gypsy
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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AAhhwww yeah, Kevin's in the game and takin' the position of smacktalker! I can't WAIT to see this get rev'd up now.. Henny AND Kevin smacktalkin!!!!! Van Belle ya better get while the gettin's good. I say we get Henny, Dimes and Van Belle in a spray fest at the slide show!!!! Just like BITD!
Peace
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Did anyone mention "Drivin' South" or "Columbo Crack" ??
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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"BVB and gonamok would be high on my list of people to meet."
Oh, poor, poor, Matisse. What personal scars have led you to set your sights so low? I've been quiet lately, busy on the couch trying to fatten myself up with beer, doughnuts, and Bon Bons. I'm trying to attain a level whence I can match the performance of the aforementioned "gentlemen".
Well, I can remain silent no more. BVB can't count to 12 without taking his doped up shoes off. Mr. Amok can't count past 12 unless it's his empty Coors Light cans, his "training regimen" consists of hauling said cans to the recycle center to pay for another twelver.
A few of us compassionate old timers have been quietly taking up a collection for golf cart rentals. We want to ensure their comfort on the "Tour de Fivesix".
Bee Hay is "the one" to meet. Be forwarned, however, you will be ruined forever...
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Matisse said: Off White,
while it is sweet of you to say so, I was a last minute no show last time (the S/O had his eyes lasered and was still home in a dark room and I didn't have the heart to leave him home alone) so there is no way you met me before.
Holy social faux pas Batman! Then who was that nice couple I chatted up in the social throng near Jaws? Another female poster with a gender miscue name, I think. And where are my marbles anyway?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2010 - 02:12am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner (http://chrislindner.com);
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve M. (Poway)
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2010 - 02:17am PT
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This is in NO way finished, ie; selection of photo's, I know, I need Piggot, arrangement of figures, colors, etc. The artists rearranged and removed some of the photo's that I originally had but it gives you an idea of what it might look like:
A "check list" of all the classic Woodson problems printed down the front of the tshirt has been suggested. Any other ideas would be appreciated.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Jayzus BeeHay, disparaging my character with a totally made up, cheezy lie... i drink bud, not coors.
Ya tryin to ruin my reputation or what?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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oh, did that cartoon ever make the rounds back in the day. unfortunately, the second panel pretty much sums it for for today. underweight, chain-smoking, has-been duffer. so looking forward to a session full of woodsons best 5.7's!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Well, that was utterly useless. I was hoping Dimes would provide some backup for me. Instead, I can't even figure out what he said. Anybody else able to make sense of that post?
Regarding classics, the list really could get big quick. It's kind of hard to draw a line where something becomes a true classic. Some undisputable ones have been mentioned already. Others that I think would be close are Airstream, Aids Victim, and Kurtains. IMO, Kurtains is better than Uncertainty.
I guess I could look this up, but maybe somebody can answer real quick: where/what is Columbo Crack? Sounds familiar but I can't place it right now.
All this posturing/jockying about being out of shape - right. If you can talk smack you'll be in fine shape. (lucky for Reign 1, Dimes, and bvb)
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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horseshit BVB, I seen you fire the wired. going to be solid sends that weekend!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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I guess I could look this up, but maybe somebody can answer real quick: where/what is Columbo Crack? Sounds familiar but I can't place it right now.
colombo crack is a short, hard overhanging off-fingers/thin hands crack sort of up the hill and behind the t.v. screen and tower one. it kind of climbs out and up the belly of this big goose egg boulder. i think the easiest way to get to it is to go up to tower one, then continue a short ways (50 yards?) further up the hill. i've only done it three or four times, in the seventies. not a real classic in my book. if it was right on the road it'd see more traffic.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Guess I've never seen Columbo Crack.
bvb - let's pull on some dimes Sunday after the main event. And, no, I'm not talking about bivy ledges like you find on all the Woodson stuff. (that "highball" picture was mean, "you hurted my feelings")
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2010 - 03:52pm PT
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Like Bob said, if you start at Tower #1 and stay on the trail heading uphill on the ridge, it'll take you through a tight squeeze, down on your knees, between two rocks. Columbo Crack is just before this on the left. A short, offset, overhanging, nightmare!
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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I never took Henny to columbo crack. It would have been even more embarrassing to see his feathers ruffled trying to get up that thing then watching him flail on the big grunt chimney.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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An all time favorite end of event "party/throw-down" while walking down the Woodson road, after a long exhausting day of climbing is the Uber classic . . . wait for it . . .
"Fish Mantle."
Absolute, absolute classic. Lol.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Hey bob-o it will be good to see you again, but we will just have to see who is REALLY out of shape, wont we. I bet Im WAY fatter n weaker than you. You want weak? I had to bail off of white maidens walkaway last summer. BITD me and rick free soloed that thing in tennies while we were frying on mushrooms, fer cryin out loud.
Ya think you suck? hah, Ill show ya who really sucks.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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I myself liked Columbo Crack...(put up by Ron Kauk,) and I had a cool invert that I used to do to get my foot way up for heel friction, allowing me to reach past the super thin mid-section, making it pretty light and solo-able, (which I had done numerous times,)Whereas some found it pretty hard I guess...BITD!
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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A quick note n colombo crack - the trails around tower 2 are pretty overgrown now, so the best way to get to it is through the playground. Head east from painted to control tower. Pass control tower, keeping marshmallow tower on your right. When you are almost to marshmallow tower look for a tunnel on the left. When you exit the tunnel colombo will be right over your head
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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I really do think that I should be somewhere in the, say high 60s and Phantom X should be, at best, in the low 200s on this list.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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I tell ya, I'm going to be missing the feller who inadvertently started the last shindig just by declaring he was going to be in the area and wanted to go to Woodson. Tarbousier, you'll be missed at the event for sure.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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making it pretty light and solo-able
whaaa....you mean some people use a rope on colombo? wtf!?!
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Doug Tomczik
climber
Bishop
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First time posting here, but wanted to chime in. Lots of cool photos and comments.
Gonamok, a couple of SD guys (Nate and Matt) climbed that roof/horn route last fall and named it Gorilla Juice. As far as I could tell, Nate ticked the FA as I broke a key handhold during the last moves prior to his send. Definitely fun moves close to the road.
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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Could you please move me up on the list a few notches and move Eeyonkee aka #2 down somewhere at the bottom where he belongs. Thank you. Also I think now would be a good time to suggest to Matisse that maybe it would be a good idea to go to an appliance store and get a cardboard box (if they ask what's it for tell them to mind there own business or lie), about 2'x3' and cut holes in it for your arms, legs and head. This way when the testosterone raged Eeyonkee, Beehay or that clever Off White beg to spot you, you will feel safe and secure. I may be wearing one myself if no womenfolk show. Make sure it doesn't say Maytag on it.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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If you guys put a little more effort into your trash talking, you may not even have to climb. :-)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2010 - 04:51am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner (http://chrislindner.com);
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike
138.
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2010 - 04:54am PT
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Phantom X...I think that ? mark before your name may be holding you down at #10. Can I remove it? It may improve your status!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2010 - 05:10am PT
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ATTENTION EVERYONE!
I'd like to see everyone attending this Shindig to be able to go home with at least one t-shirt. I was thinking of putting up the money's for the t-shirts myself but decided to put it out there to see if I can fund this any other way. I'm looking at printing (250) shirts and looking to spend between $1500 - $2000 total. I plan to ask for a $10 "donation" (key word) for each shirt. I'll need to give out 150 - 200 shirts to get my money back. I don't think that'll be a problem. If anyone can help me out or have any suggestios please email me. Thanks so much.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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"Make sure it doesn't say Maytag on it."
Anyone else get that? Clever girl, (gender assumed).
We will be sure that there are some token females attending, even if we have to pay them. If you pay, you Maytag.
BH, aka "Lucky 13"
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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From the looks of some of these pics, It looks like this is going to be a gray panther convention. hahaha
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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always did have a fire in my belly for the place.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2010 - 04:43pm PT
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What be that problem Bob?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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that's just me posin' on phD. DAMN i looked good in danskin tights!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2010 - 05:16pm PT
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At least you're wearing shorts with them!
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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"Clever girl(gender assumed)" Ha Ha Never have I been so insulted. I hope you feel big. I see why girls in fact hate you. I admit that the Maytag thing wasn't at all a good joke , however amongst working class folks (sorry for using the w word) any Maytag joke is a good one. And yet they can't all be good ones, can they? I would of responed earlier but was delayed as I have just recently showered and caught a glimps of myself in the mirror and was overwelmed by my own self, what with my hugh biceps and manliness. "Get over it" I say to myself, then I think about the immense pleasure that women get upon there viewing of myself and it literly tears me up inside. Still I weep. Then I shaved and would you know it by the time I was done it was time to shave again. Want to look your best when those closest to you ask may you to inspire there wives. (calm down it's just a joke, wives generally hate me and call me mindless)) However, think about it, has not assuming gender gotten you into enough trouble? Come to think of it how would I know? I wouldn't. Like your remark earlier, that is a cheap below the belt hit. Would you like to date Eeyonkee's sister? Well you can't. Now your looking for trouble! I could possibly line you up with a look alike but you will have to get a tan and put on some muscle. Would you listen to me?! It obvious I'm jaded because Of Eeyonkees disparaging remarks earlier in the thread and to which I'd will address later after I gather and sort out my thoughts and get some ammo and I'm taking it out on Beehay who probably would never even hurt a flea unless it was unruley. Did you see Eeyonkee's show off picture that goes with his moniker!!? Is that a laugh or what? I gotta go,I need a nap.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2010 - 05:35pm PT
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You're holding your own pretty well there Bob...
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Thanks doug, i figured as much. What was the rating on that, it looks pretty burly
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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You're holding your own pretty well there Bob...
Yah bobb can hold his own at a smack-down party, but when me n him go bouldering the only way he can hold his own is when he takes a leak. eh bob?
Kinda like taking a poodle for a walk
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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ron, you may have had to wait 35 years for the day to come, but you may actually be able to climb better than me right now.
enjoy it whiles it lasts, 'cause this spring i'm gonna climb and train like a banshee.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Something seems amiss with the angle of the rock in that picture of PhD. Was the photographer falling over or something, and that's why it looks so steep? Please clarify.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Oh and nice girly pants bob. That same camera tilt makes airplane crash crack look dead vertical.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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In malaysia the term "banshee" refers to a transexual prostitute. Sounds about right.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Whoa, WTF?
I actually thought that the Maytag joke was clever. Something in the message gave me the impression of a woman speaking to Matisse. The moniker "Phantom X" doesn't give much of a clue, that's all there was to it.
Sarcasm is a thin line to toe, maybe I stumbled over it...
BH
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Is this Stealth Bomber up the right side of the scoop with Eric's ramp on the left? I went wondering around today in the rain.
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Doug Tomczik
climber
Bishop
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Gonamok, it's about V3. Not as hard as it might look, but does feel kind of bouldery.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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oh, that's steath bomber? i guess i have tried that thing.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Yep that be stealth bomber, and its rick's ramp as far as i know.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2010 - 04:29am PT
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Hey Johnny,
I never asked, how'd you like Pit Bull over the summit? How did it climb and what was the topout like?
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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So, I was just trying my hand at trash-talking, Phantom X. Those Rubideux guys seem so good at it. We were more into being pranksters than trash-talkers in Poway, and I suppose it shows.
Anyhow, I'm just hoping to get a Dick Cillie autograph from this gig.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Whoa is right brad...insecurity is an ugly thing to witness
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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i asked cilley to sign my tits once.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2010 - 12:54am PT
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Columbo Crack, 5.11d...
I was there today and the trails going up to Columbo Crack from Tower #2 are as clear as they've always been up to the tunnel.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2010 - 01:03am PT
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That was a silly thing to ask Bob!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2010 - 01:08am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner (http://chrislindner.com);
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138.
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Sticky rubber:
From earlier today:
Deport Jonny
Slab action
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Henny, You were up there today? Did you see a couple of mountain bike dudes going up and down the mountain twice?
Starface?
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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stuffs a fistful of pesos in bobs underwear
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Lynne preparing for the post Woodson party;....Joshua Tree, Feb. 7th 2010.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Donny, yeah, we were there yesterday. Didn't see you.
Starface.
We also did the "Skid Row" problem underneath the Hollywood Boulder, the one Johnny posted some pictures of earlier. Kind of an attention getting exit as a highball, good stuff. If it hadn't been done before it has now, otherwise, we repeated a good problem.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2010 - 02:06pm PT
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Bump
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Henny,
how was the weather yesterday? I was going to go down there with s.d., but the weather forecast still said 50-60 percent chance of showers, so we bailed. We were even going to head over to Starface, as well!
-Nick
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Good enough weather, seemed like a bit of humidity though. It never rained on us (9:00-dark), although it was pretty threatening a couple of times in the morning.
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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I had a great time up on the hill yesterday with a cool crew of people. For some reason my camera won't load yesterday's photos so I'll post some from last week until I figure out the problem.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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where is that last shot? the crack? don't recognize it. sorta looks like widow bereft but i ain't been down there in close to 25 years.
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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I,m in I best get on woodson and train up!
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Yep, you got it BVB. Widow Bereft. It makes my top 10 list of climbs on Woodson.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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yeah, it's the most notorious of woodson's manufactured climbs but be that as it may it's killer. i liked it.
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Yeah that's probably why you never hear anyone talking about it, but I still think it's a great climb and a proper test-piece. Anyone ever solo it?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Hey Eliot, are those two different aretes? It appears they are. What are they? (edit: or the same arete from opposite sides?)
I've never been to the Widow's Bereft. Apparantly yet another classic I've missed. I did hear the manufactured story, and yes, was perhaps a little put off by it. Looks good, guess I need to check it out anyway.
Thanks for the pictures, I'm going to Woodson as much as I can and I'm still going backwards. The list keeps getting longer instead of shorter. Sigh.
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blr
climber
socal
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henny, those arete photos are in fact all on the same arete. It's on the backside of the boulder with the grungy crack that I pointed out, by the Double Scoop boulder. We never did figure out what they're called.
Anyways, it was good climbing with you guys yesterday... I'm still a little sore.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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is there a link to the manufactured story?
only curious, not mandatory.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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I think more of the reason people don't do it much is because it's off the beaten path. I think it's a really good crack and so is the aid climb to it's left.
Everytime I see new pictures of climbs up there I remember having done most of them. I think there are over 500 problems on that hill now.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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How far off the beaten path? Better not be more than Starface. I just about had to call for a rescue getting back up from there - haha.
blr - yeah I was starting to suspect that it might be the same arete. Deport Jonny was good, eh?
Donny, where did Rick go on "Forever"? Straight up or slightly right? Off the top of the flake, correct?
~500 problems, and only about 2000+ more to be done.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Henny, Rick went up and right. I got it backwards last time i mentioned it.
Widow's isn't the death march star face is. You head west from uncertainty and keep going until your hopelessly lost and in need of a rescue. Once your so dehydrated that you can't think straight, your almost there. As BVB said in one of the mags, watch out for the roving packs of killer rattlesnakes. The crack is worth doing. The aid climb is really good with thin stoppers, rp's and no pins.
Maybe you shouldn't look for it afterall.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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I was the san diego area correspondent for climbing magazine at the time they decided to print Bobs excellent feature article on Mt Woodson, "premium miniatures", and the mag asked me to look at it before it printed. In the article bob states that rick piggot chiseled the pin scars on widow bereft, so i figured id better ask rick if that was true.
When I asked rick if he doctored the crack with a chisel, he got a big grin and said "why ruin a good piton?" The story hit the news stands and the rest is history.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2010 - 02:30am PT
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As I emerged from off the Baby Robbins / Jaws trail, I came face to face with this helmeted, pale, sweaty faced dude with a big schnoz on a mountain bike inquiring, "Hey, do you know me?" It took me second but I then recongnized the guy, "Donny! Donny Bedford!" I replied.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2010 - 02:31am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner (http://chrislindner.com);
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (Can not attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2010 - 02:34am PT
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That's an awesome story Ron and I can picture Rick saying it just like that too!
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Damn, Is my nose that big? hahaha
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2010 - 04:04am PT
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Was out at Santee today...ran into, Eric, Val, Richard, Dan, and Charles... I think I got'em all? What beautiful, clean day's San Diego is having!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2010 - 05:07am PT
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Is that you Johnny, the "Shoe Doper"?
ShoeDoper on 5.10a on the Oustside, 5.11d
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2010 - 05:11am PT
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I know this can't be the first time you've heard this Darrell but I can swear that's Sonny Bono sittin down on that rock!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2010 - 05:21am PT
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Have to post this one again...never gets old!
Rick Piggot On The Undertow Roof
"Another legendary California mystery hardman from the 70's and 80's, Rick's gig was soloing Woodson 5.12's and El Cap spook routes. Here's Rick leading the massive Undertow Roof at Mt. Woodson, circa mid 80's. Like many Woodson rarities and obscurities, it's likely this route has not seen a chalk mark in 15 years." - BVB
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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I think more of the reason people don't do it [widow bereft] much is because it's off the beaten path
hell, widow bereft is like five minutes from jaws! i think it don't get done because it's hard, and because most people don't even know it's there. it's a super high-quality problem with lots of variety -- overhanging off-fingers, tips in the pin scars, and the wierd shoulder-scumming in the upper corner: you transition from bomber locks into insecure face once you get into the corner. it's a great boulder problem. don't think it's ever been done ropless.
In the article bob states that rick piggot chiseled the pin scars on widow bereft
that's pretty much what i said, but i never fingered anybody. it was still too sensitive an issue back then (1988) to be naming names. i still wrote about the fact that it was "manufactured".
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Wow! That's messed up Donny! Why would anybody go to all that trouble and risk death like that just trying to get to some Woodson thin crack? That seems silly. I usually only risk approaches like that for killer ultra superb mega classic death defying rad Rubidoux test piece highballs. It needs to be worth the payoff.
I think I heard there might have been more than pin scars involved. May have just been rumor since I don't hear it mentioned. It's hard to pin down origin or intent of scars in thin cracks. ok, it's on my ever increasing list.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2010 - 03:45pm PT
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I'll second the motion that it isn't as popular because, one, it's hard, and two, nobody know's where it is. Wish I could say I've done it!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2010 - 04:27pm PT
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Ok Darrell, I have another forgotten blast from the past to further set you back...I just inquired a fellow climber and he reminded me of this one..."Fallen Gypsy" 5.12+?, located down toward Sickle Crack...
Location:
From the Painted Boulders, take a very worn trail towards the biggest formation due south. The boulder has a large cap boulder on it.
Description:
This is a very hard thin lieback/friction route in a shallow dihedral of sorts.(http://www.mountainproject.com/v/california/san_diego_county/mount_woodson/105884326);
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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yeah, "fallen gypsy" used to be a greg epperson route called "american gypsy". located on the way down to sickle crack. 5.11+. huge hold broke off changing the climb quite a bit and jacking up the rating. not sure who did the fa of "fallen gypsy.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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oops, i guess i fingered him then, eh...
The thing i like about piggot is hes ruthlessly straightforward. Controversial tactics are often done on the sly, and inquiry is met with obfuscation, self serving rationalizations and flat out baloney. Ask one of those sleazeball glue jockeys about their route and you get a song and dance fit for the ed sullivan show.
Not with rick. He stands behind what he does. Plus its hard to criticize a route you cant touch. The man can climb HARD.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Henny, at least you saw the humor in my post since it was intended for you.
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dickcilley
Social climber
Wisteria Ln.
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Just after doing the Fa of the Widow Bereft.I comented that it was strange there were pinscars so low.Thats when they told me it was manufactured.I was devastated .The name comes from a shortstory about a convict whos lover is paroled.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2010 - 01:11am PT
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Ron, check your email.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 10, 2010 - 01:43am PT
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Great to see Master Cilley chime in with the real poop!
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Feb 10, 2010 - 02:13am PT
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thanks for all your efforts ID-
fwiw, i am out, i have a conflict i cannot resolve...
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 03:35am PT
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Dick! Its about time...glad to see yer still alive n so forth
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 03:39am PT
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so those stories about the aid dwarf of woodson were made up?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2010 - 04:24am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner (http://chrislindner.com);
7. ? Ron Kauk
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (Can not attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. Jim Bridwell!
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 10:59am PT
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Donny - roving packs of killer rattlesnakes don't sound the least bit humorous.
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s.d.
climber
CA
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Feb 10, 2010 - 01:48pm PT
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Hump day! What better time to plan the next Woodson outing.
I'll be out there on Sunday with my buddy gonzochemist and plan to get on MS, airstream, starface...
Who's in!?
-Sonja
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Feb 10, 2010 - 02:15pm PT
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Jeez, I need a Woodson day bad! Unfortunately, I am stuck in a library all this week AND I'm skipping town this weekend. Looks like you have a well rounded day planned, have fun!
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s.d.
climber
CA
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Feb 10, 2010 - 02:40pm PT
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Too bad!
Is anyone planning to climb on Monday? Email me. I'm thinking about heading down there both days if I can find a partner for Monday.
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dickcilley
Social climber
Wisteria Ln.
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Feb 10, 2010 - 03:28pm PT
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No Dwarf, only a Frog.About the same time as The Widow Bereft,BVB, myself and a few others were in the parking lot.Bob says, Some one has to talk to the Frog about pinning out cracks.Others second and third the proposal.At that moment the Frog strolls up.Everybody shrinks back into the poison oak,leaving the Frog and I to battle it out.The Frog and I were and will always be great friends despite differences.I told him what I thought on the subject,he shrugged and we went on to other topics.Whats the grade on the Widow Bereft currently?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2010 - 03:32pm PT
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Woodson "12a"
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 04:20pm PT
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Woodson "12a"
Gary, Gary, Gary...
I would think by now that all the smack talk in this thread would have made you choose your words more carefully. That post is somewhat akin to an open invitation. It's like holding a target out there and encouraging people to open fire. There are lurkers out there just waiting for that kind of opportunity...
We seem to have stumbled on some dirt while ogling the Widow. But it is interesting to know the history. What was the grade originally?
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Feb 10, 2010 - 04:23pm PT
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s.d. I'm down for Monday. Possibly Sunday also.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2010 - 04:25pm PT
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I guess I should've quoted the whole, "Woodson 12a" for I am one to defend the ratings up there and definitely not someone to say something like that. I still stand on that IHMT is 11c/d (that didn't help the "smack talk" that this will generate will it Darrell?).
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 04:30pm PT
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12.a? That crack is just as hard as the rest of the woodson cracks. 11.c
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2010 - 04:33pm PT
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A clip from the video:
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 10, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
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What did you rate it Dick? .10D?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2010 - 04:36pm PT
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I'm still shaking my head at Henny's onsite solo of Hard As Nails!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 04:44pm PT
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Nice scramble Reign 1.
The numbers, or letters, don't matter. It doesn't even mean anything if it's a horrendous pile of sand at 10d. But putting that word "Woodson" in front of the grade? Well, even the location of the quotes won't help shut that door...
This is getting fun.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 04:45pm PT
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i don't know about that pic. I think the guy that took it photo shopped henny in it.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 10, 2010 - 04:52pm PT
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hard as nails is a slab. we used to huck laps on that thing in roller skates between massive bouts of reefer ingestion and warm OE800 garglers. don't think i've ever seen anyone use a rope on it except for this one guy we picked up hitchiking in ramona. we nicknamed him "anzo fred". he was a crazy-looking cowboy dude who looked like a more battered-up version of willie nelson. never been climbing before but he had da kine bud so we talked him into coming up to woodson with us. he hiked HAN in his custom-cobblered j.d. hills -- the pointy toes slotted just right into the crack -- but like i say he wanted a rope. anyway, it WAS his first day climbing so getting his skinny little wranglers up an honest woodson 5.8 like HAN was pretty proud.
last time i checked widow bereft was 5.9+.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:01pm PT
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Man, talk about lurkers coming out of the ether.
Typical politician ploys. When you can't refute the truth, resort to attacking the messenger.
Dang, where's my backup? Oh well, if those are the best shots I can be hit with - I'm mint.
Edit: bvb, were you attempting to infer something with that story?
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:02pm PT
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Mint? more like stale milk. All I kniow is woodson's rating are for single moves. Even if a problem has ten 11.c moves, it's still rated 10.d. hahaha
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:08pm PT
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i don't know about that pic. I think the guy that took it photo shopped henny in it.
i think you're right. isn't henny's body position in that photo eerily similar to that photo of him projecting baby robbins?
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:10pm PT
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Henny, you don't have any backup. Powells out in the north 40 rebolting some slab anchors out in the middle of nowhere that no one will ever climb again.
And since you brought up POWELLS name, remember that one new year when we did his little project out by that bmx track. wasn't it called 'new years resoulution'? 10.c+ mild crimping up a 1/4 inch ramp. I wish you guys climbed harder bitd. I might have stuck with this hobby if I had a challenge.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:13pm PT
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BVB, Has henny got up baby robbins? I never took him over to it. He only wanted to do slab climbs whenever I met him at woodson.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:17pm PT
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OK. You know, you guys would be better off if you just didn't rate your problems in the first place. That way no one would know what they needed to downrate it to. It would also give the impression (albeit false) that you didn't think it was even worth rating. You guys could learn alot from some of the other So Cal areas, like the one in...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:26pm PT
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you must be referring to that smog-choked graffiti fest of festering little chossadelic buttknuckle boulders in riverside. my god, that place is a blight on an otherwise fine california climbing landscape.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:39pm PT
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That last post almost touched a nerve.
Oh boy. Too much. Think I'll just declare myself the winner now. When you guys get a grip, get back to me and we'll resume. If you want some pointers, you can always check out how it's done at...
(thanks for the laughs)
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:48pm PT
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Yeah Bubs remember those cool Cowboy Boot Skates I used to have? Did make stuff a little harder! Like Hear My Train .10C, not .10A...Plus it made descending the hill a breeze!!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:51pm PT
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That's great! Good one. I GOTTA get me a pair of those!
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 05:57pm PT
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We usually don't rate the woodson problems. The tourist's do so they can go home feeling like they did something hard.
Once as I was walking up woodson I noticed chicken feathers all over the trail. Seems this guy was trying to climb a arete and his feathers were getting ruffled and falling out. About the same time there was this guy in a paramedic jacket picking them up and putting in plastic forensic bags like there was a massacre or something. I asked what was going on and the paramedic just pointed at Henny....
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 06:00pm PT
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Holey Sh#t watusi! That would make that climb 10.c for sure.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 10, 2010 - 06:04pm PT
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well henny, the sad truth of the matter is that even with woodson and santee on our doorsteps, us 'dago types still commuted up to roubidoux a few times a year to see how we measured up.
there's a reason why we decided to specialize in cracks....
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 06:40pm PT
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At the risk getting blindsided...
It doesn't seem to me like the places can be compared to each other straight across. Typical.
Doesn't seem like it matters much (other than for smacking).
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 06:59pm PT
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what lurkers?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 10, 2010 - 07:07pm PT
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i think santee and roubidoux are pretty similar, at least in terms of how well the edging skill set crosses both areas.
i can still remember the exact time and place roubidoux appeared on my radar screen. spring '77. powell came down for the santee tour with me and watusi. he hiked everything, and i mean everything, and he did 'em first try. then he added two or three new problems that i had never really ever considered climbable. he did this one new problem on the backside of the black dot boulder that i spent 30 years (yes, 30 years) trying to repeat before i gave up.
of course, that was powell. it didn't count.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 07:35pm PT
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It may come as a surprise, but I think I've only been to Santee once, maybe twice. There is some crossover, but it seems to me that Woodson/Rubidoux reward skill sets that are a little different.
Rubidoux was/is almost the ideal for prep'ing for Idyllwild. Sounds like Santee would be good also.
So bvb - I think I'd like a tour of Santee sometime. (hint) We'll see if we can drag KP out of the gym and bring him along.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 07:41pm PT
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I remember when hardly anybody in san diego would rate their route 5.11, and the 5.10+ routes got harder and harder until it finally broke out when people realized they really could climb 5.11. Then the same thing happened with the 5.12 barrier. 5.11+ got way hard until it broke out again.
Thats why these pencil armed, ex-lycra wearin, cover boy wannabe hangdog 5.13 poodles crash and burn on woodson 11+. I was bouldering around camp 4 one time and this pencil neck local comes over and wants to sandbag me on some mantles. He takes me on a circuit of the hardest mantles, which reduces him to a smoking crater and im hardly warmed up.
We just dont realize how gigantically burly we really are down here.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 10, 2010 - 07:45pm PT
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rubadub has better defined edges than santee. Summa that thin face hurts like a mutha to pull on. Santee is thin, but more smeary and definately greaser than ruby-doo
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climber
socal
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Feb 10, 2010 - 07:48pm PT
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Looks like the Riverside contingent was outnumbered and taking fire from multiple directions. Olive branch extended, perhaps in the interest of self preservation. We'll have to wait and see if this gesture is just a trap. Either way, I'll be packing heat next time I'm at Woodson just in case I get caught in the crossfire. Yeah, I'm gonna have Baby Robbin's WIRED just in time for the shindig!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 07:59pm PT
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Uhmmm..... blr, you must have missed something.
Think I'll just declare myself the winner now.
I didn't even get hit. Can't ask for much more than that.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2010 - 08:42pm PT
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Hit me up Darrell, I'm at Santee too often lately. Although Santee is NOT a crack area it has a few moderates and I just did a circuit of most of them yesterday to give my tips a rest. Although I'd show you most of the classic dime problems I'd probably get the urge to make you try the Dead Animal Traverse and insist you do the Animal Mantle to finish (I don't know why I'd have to do that to the man!).
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 10, 2010 - 09:35pm PT
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In all honesty, one of my finer days was when KP took me to the "Hardy Boys" at Roubidoux. I think I remember doing it without the stone but Kevin might have a clearer memory of this...He's stayed away from those harmful influences...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 10, 2010 - 09:51pm PT
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ah yes, the hardy boys crack. i knew there was some good reason for roubidoux to exist.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 10, 2010 - 10:12pm PT
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yeah, one of only a handful of cracks on the entire mountain. It is Woodson quality though. I think I remember hearing it was without the cheatstone. It's certainly harder that way.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 10, 2010 - 10:14pm PT
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when you're 6' 2" with a +3 ape index...what is this cheatstone of which you speak?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 10, 2010 - 10:30pm PT
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Bob, in this haze of which I spoke...I might have been first not to use it, but I of lesser stature must kowtow...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 10, 2010 - 11:22pm PT
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ah, summer of '76..those were good times, eh vawto? i'll never forget you wrestling your pack away from that bear. had to recover those fig newtons!
#46 - 0
watusi - 1
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 10, 2010 - 11:54pm PT
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Yeah remember Bob, we were hunkered down by the restrooms watching him and we lobbed a softball sized stone towards him to try to startle him, and I don't remember whether it was you or I...Scored the random drop right on his melon...we heard a thud, then a rumble...
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Feb 11, 2010 - 12:47am PT
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runamuck said: He takes me on a circuit of the hardest mantles, which reduces him to a smoking crater and im hardly warmed up.
You must have got a laugh out of the notion of a mantle tour, did you make any "Oh no, don't be throwing me in that briar patch" noises? Not that I ever witnessed it mind you, but seems like I heard there's hardly a mantle at woodson you don't have down pat.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 11, 2010 - 12:49am PT
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Santee Eh?
I was there tonight, babbling brooks, green grass. Viva El Nino.
You want a tour? How's about #5(tie), 1983 contest?
Yes, great prep for Suicide, how come I couldn't do sh*t there?
Holy Crap, that's what, 27 f'ing years? You f*kers are gettin' old!
Holy, holy crap, it was eighty f*&king ONE! 29 f'ing years!
BH
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 11, 2010 - 12:54am PT
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Geez! Brad I remember that one...I won "Junior" Mens...Now I'm ancient!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 11, 2010 - 01:29am PT
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Thanks for reminding me that I'm not a spring chicken anymore. Now I feel old.
For some reason the year that I went to the Santee contest is fuzzy in my memory. I can't pinpoint it. (Was there more than 1 Santee contest? What were the years? Was it '81?) I think the only time I've been to Santee was for that contest. I ended up in a 4 way tie for second - with Bachar, Lechinski (I'm pretty sure), and ?. Didn't they end up drawing names to determine the order for those that tied? My typical luck.
But what seems funny, as little as I remember about the year, etc., I can still picture at least 6 of the 10 problems I did. I could probably still walk around and find them. I seem to vaguely even remember snippits of sequences. Odd how that is.
I don't know, the duck always seemed to translate well to Suicide. Want to do a hard crank crux at the little stone? Go get ready by pulling on some of the blade problems at the duck. It usually seemed to help.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 01:36am PT
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I only made one trip to rubydoux. Until then I was cranking some of the hardest stuff at suicide. After that trip I wasn't able to get up anything at suicide except the cracks.
I have to give Henny and powell credit, that thin stuff up at ruby is damn hard.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2010 - 01:41am PT
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I entered my first bouldering contest in '82 at Magnolia Boulders. You have that t-shirt don't you Brad? I didn't know what I was doing then (nor now) but I had fun wandering around and participating. The highlight was Tony Yaniro succeeding on this overhanging finger crack by taking his shoes off, taping his toes and sending the thing! Bob, the photo of you on it is in bitmap format and I can't post it. Here's Bachar on an earlier attempt:
Here we go...an email between Bob and I...
"----- Original Message ----- From: G M To: Bob VanBelle Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:09 PM
Bob,
I was in the '81/82 GWBC at Magnolia and Tony Yaniro succeeded on an overhanging finger crack sans shoes and taping his toes up! Could this be the same crack? Does it have a name?
From:Bob van Belle To: G M
Subject: Re:
Yeah gary, that'd be the same crack, but in the first magnolia comp. '78, nobody (including bachar) did it. That photo of me on it was taken later that year. No name that i've ever heard..."
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 11, 2010 - 01:41am PT
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Yeah, BVB kind of summed up how we felt when we went to Suicide in his blurb in the Stonemasters Book, you guys were our heroes... (Even though we pretended to be bad...) Guess that's why we stuck mainly to cracks...At least until the rubber got better!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2010 - 01:49am PT
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Speaking of Ape Index's...I just measured mine and I'm +/-(0)...figures!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 11, 2010 - 01:58am PT
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okay, those of you out there with memories...
Wasn't the story something like: everybody was afraid to try that crack because it was the highest point problem (hence hardest, and, if I remember right hadn't been done) and they didn't want the fat 0 on their card. So, immediately after the contest when there's no more penalty Bachar runs over and does it. That's what I remember. Now I hear mention of Tony's name... Who did it, and what were the circumstances?
And don't make something up.
Edit: I bet that's Rockamazzo sitting and watching, just to JB's left. Ricky may have been the 4th person of the tie, not sure.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2010 - 02:03am PT
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Edit: Check out the post above Darrell...In '82 all I know is that Tony Yaniro did it with his toes taped up, don't know if that was the first ascent or not.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 11, 2010 - 02:14am PT
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Whoa spiffy shot Gary!
edit: I got the rotor spinning as well and can't for the life of me remember...I heard that Janno had done it after the comp...But also remember the story of Tony with the taped up feet...Jeebus, and I was there that day as well...
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 11, 2010 - 02:21am PT
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Where are bvb or BH when we need them? 78, 82, it's a blur. 78 may be the contest I remember. But I think Bachar did it. Paging bvb, paging bvb..., or anyone that remembers...
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 02:26am PT
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Yah I got a taste of the Hensel/powell thang at suicide. BITD when I had led pretty much all the hard 5.11 face routes at suicide, I decided it was time to step it up a notch and went to the south face to tick Disco Jesus, a H/P 5.12a face route.
The first bolt is about 30 feet otd, and Im already on hard 5.11 turf maybe 12 feet up. Before i know it im standing on guitar picks, looking at a 20 foot grounder and the bolt is still in the next county.
I downclimbed in stark terror, crying, peeing, praying.
whew, beware the hensel/powell
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2010 - 02:29am PT
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Mike, I probably walked past you at least once at the '82 comp and never knew who you were then...small world.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 11, 2010 - 02:33am PT
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Looked a lot different then Gary...I'm tellin' ya'...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2010 - 02:34am PT
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Hey guys, I'm going to have some cool gear to raffle off at the gig, including ropes (plural)! Gotta go change and giveup the puter to the "boss"! Until next time...
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 02:50am PT
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One day we were running laps on that thin crack next to Walk the Plank. Hensel and Powell show up to get the lead on Walk the Plank. The whole time poor Henny is trying to get a bolt drilled at the crux with bad pro below, Powell is five feet away on a rope taking pics. All that is coming out of Powells mouth is "your gonna die" and "this is the end".
One of my favorite routes up there is "arch angel". It's rated something like 11.d and slightly runout. Hensel and Woodward classic. The finish moves are pure heaven doing 11.+ slab moves not really wanting to take a big fall. Bitchin route!
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 02:57am PT
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RAMONA ---- A large boulder blocked traffic along Highway 78 near Ramona Wednesday night, according to the California Highway Patrol.
The boulder fell onto the highway just west of Weekend Villa Road at about 6:15 p.m., according to the CHP. A small pickup truck crashed into the rock, and a traffic alert was issued shortly afterward. No injuries were reported in the crash.
One lane was closed while crews worked to remove the large rock. The traffic alert was still in effect at 10 p.m., according to the CHP's Web site.
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 03:12am PT
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I saw the boulder. It was about the size of a VW bug. I was heading home after a night MTB ride at 8pm and the sheriff had the lane closed. It was up towards ramona about 1/2mile from where they did all the concrete work a few years ago. If it keeps raining there is going to be alot more rock coming down the hills.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 11, 2010 - 03:28am PT
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Yikes!! It's been quite a while since I've been down there...I'm sure with all the growth in the community things have changed quite a bit!
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diablo
Trad climber
sd,ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 10:17am PT
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I know the guy that did the 20 pointer at Magnolia ..... he got 2nd place
Any of you guys remember that dude?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2010 - 12:27pm PT
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Its about time you chimed back in Jeff! Dont be a stranger!
U talking about that overhanging finger crack? The first ascent? Who was it?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2010 - 04:59pm PT
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Speaking of Santee, here's one by OffWhite that was posted in an earlier ST thread:
"Here's an overview taken in September 1979. I can tell by the knickers that's BVB topping out on the scary highball on the end of the Bullethole Wall."
That seperate/same pillar that Bob is on is now called, the American Express Boulder. Here's a shaky video of the same route: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa1z62LgeFI
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2010 - 06:13pm PT
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Hey Jeff, here's a cool memory I have of you...
I'm not sure what year it was out at Santee, probably around '83-'84, when I had already been introduced to the Dead Animal Traverse and had heard that a mantle was done on the lip of that rock that caps the boulder (bottom right corner in the picture above). I tried it a number of times over a period of time and couldn't figure that darn thing out! I finally submitted to the fact that I just wasn't as swole as the rest of you guys.
One day, while I was standing over at Suzy's Mantle, I turned around to witness this kid pulling the same mantle off. I couldn't believe I was actually witnessing someone do it for I wanted it so bad! He reached out to the lip, hung there for a moment, got into the same position that I had already gotten to, then cranked into the mantle. The sequence to come totally surprised me! It was then that I slapped myself in the forehead and said, "So, THAT'S how you do it!" I think it was the same day that I introduced myself and thanked you for the beta!
When I returned to San Diego in '07, and videos being what they are today, I had to put one together, thanks to you Jeff!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKzlM-8t87I&feature=related
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diablo
Trad climber
sd,ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 06:42pm PT
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Nice vid gary!
Mr. Frank Noble showed me the way up that BITD. 1976ish?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2010 - 06:48pm PT
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Way back then? Geeze Jeff, how "old" are you? Lol, I was (14) then wearing Birdwell shorts down at PB! I know, I'm just a kid to all you old farts!
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 10:47pm PT
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Scary highball !? Maybe if you dont use any of the giant jugs that are all over the thing or clip a 50 lb boulder to your belt loop.
American express whaaat? How can somebody name something that had probably already seen 1,000 ascents before they were even born? Its the end of the bullethole wall.
Nobody wants to find their own stuff anymore, they name and claim stuff that was already a trade route when their grandaddy was a pup. i swear ta god the kids these days kill me.
A couple years ago i get a call from a guy who says hes making a santee guidebook....if you have a cliff and need to find the routes on it thats one thing, but this a a little group of dinky boulders...you see em and climb em. If you need a guide to climb at santee you are prolly in the wrong sport, but if people are stupid enough to buy something like that its their bizness.
Ennyhoo, this guy wants me to look his manuscript over and give it my squirt of approval or whatever, and its full of sit-starts to routine problems that him and his buddies did. After they boldly put up the FSS (first sit start)they renamed and re-rated the problem!!!!!!!
I corrected the totally made up history of santee he wrote, which somehow placed him and the other visionary sit-start pioneers in the thick of it, and sent it back with a note that said "you gotta be kidding me". If he ever calls me again i swear im gonna kneecap him.
Shamelessly desperate for glory but dont want to get too far off the beaten path because they might get stickers in their sox. The only silver lining here is that Ill prolly be dead soon and none of this crap will matter.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 10:53pm PT
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so you did that thing when you were in about 1st grade then Jeff? heh
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 11, 2010 - 11:13pm PT
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when i first did that thing, like, 36 years ago (my god, am i really that old?) it was known as "that boulder problem over there."
always wondered how and when it acquired a name.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 11, 2010 - 11:37pm PT
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would that be gregs variation of shockleys lunge, or something else?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2010 - 12:28am PT
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How'd you put it Ron, "Cantankerous"? No, that's Eppi's Lunge next to Shockley's Lunge...http://www.youtube.com/user/digitsdelight#p/u/4/L-COm-PN6jk
The overhanging face that dominate's the Dogpile (V-Rock) formation, has bolts on it, which, I agree, should never have been put there. It's supposedly in the 13 range now and a key hold has broken off down low. It's an eyesore now.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 12, 2010 - 12:34am PT
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This is for Gary, sorry about the strange e-mail...(And for whoever else received one.) I got some self replicating spam message that sent some weird Viagra message...It was not my fault but for safeties sake please scan any of my correspondences and let me know if you find anything...It is the furthest thing from my mind to want to send anything detrimental to anyone...Peace, MP.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2010 - 12:37am PT
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Mike, I thought your email was attempt at humor now that YOU (not I) are getting older!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property still available 03/19-20, MUST CONFIRM VIA EMAIL BY FEB 10!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2010 - 12:54am PT
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"I know the guy that did the 20 pointer at Magnolia ..... he got 2nd place. Any of you guys remember that dude?"
We're still waiting Jeff!
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 01:19am PT
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Was it me? I can't seem to remember if I was there are not.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2010 - 01:32am PT
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"I can't seem to remember..."
Now you're revealing your age. It's called, "Old"sheimers Don!
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 02:23am PT
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Mt Woodson is now known as Mt Amick
That is all
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 02:35am PT
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Mt. Amick? hahaha Did you climb it first or did you do the first sitdown ascent?
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 02:41am PT
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While I have been known to lean toward intemperance at times, this would not be one of them. What kind of person would attempt to assign some arbitrary new name to a formation that has had the same, universally recognized name for decades?
Sure its anyones right to call anything by whatever name they want, but to claim "its now known as..." as if some higher authority has made it so, is too pretentious for me to ignore.
If somebody wants to name something let them go find it and name it. But I guess thats too hard, involving time and effort and stuff. The bullethole wall was found and named by somebody else long long ago.
Oh and there happens to be a bullet hole in the wall. What does american express have to do with anything?
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 02:42am PT
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Sit start outta my lawn chair
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 02:42am PT
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Am i the only one that wants to climb that concrete work on 78?
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 02:46am PT
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that concrete work is now know as "that concrete work on 78". Thank you
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REIGN 1
Trad climber
Mt. Woodson, Ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 02:49am PT
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oh snap!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 12, 2010 - 03:22am PT
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I used to climb at that freeway overpass under the 15 and the routes were actually quite good...Went back one day and they had all been removed, the only thing left was a caltrans plaque basically saying, "F&*k Off!..."
edit: Oh it was the one at the I-15 and Hwy 76...
edit #2: Mt. Amick! Geez, you "have" lived under her for eons...Boy and haven't we spent many moons tickling her as well...But change is hard Ron, and I don't know how well this will be received...Your brother, MP.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2010 - 05:52am PT
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Mr. Cantankerous One (Ron),
The rock in question is the seperate pillar of rock to the right (west) of the Bullet Hole Wall. Are you saying that this was considered to be part of the Bullet Hole Wall at one time? For if it was, it wasn't when I came on to the scene in '81 nor is it now! And, believe it or not, the routes on this pillar still climb the same, well, the west face flakes are pretty greased out now which makes it an even more interesting affair!
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 06:25am PT
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The bullethole wall is the entire rock, including the bullethole problems and what we used to call the 5.6 bullet crack. There is a 5.9 on the west side of the formation. Its all together, which is likely why the west end didnt get a seperate name.
Call it whatever you want, but thats what "its now known as" to you, not me.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 06:35am PT
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Hey michael, well if one can retro name formations, wheres the cutoff? If its ok to rename existing geographic features, then i should be able to use the same justification to retro name woodson, right? If naming a trampled boulder at santee is how you are gonna make your mark why bother. Everybody wants it cheap and easy.
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Feb 12, 2010 - 10:40am PT
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I used to climb at that freeway overpass under the 15 and the routes were actually quite good...Went back one day and they had all been removed, the only thing left was a caltrans plaque basically saying, "F&*k Off!..."
Hahaha! Now you're bringing back memories! I was one of the instigators who put those routes up. We didn't have a tall enough ladder so we used to park my truck with a camper shell right next to the pillars and put an extension ladder on top of it. One day the cops showed up and ran us off. Not too long after that CalTrans came through and removed everything. Gee, I can't imagine why they didn't want us drilling holes in the freeway overpass...
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Feb 12, 2010 - 11:47am PT
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Yup, Bullethole Wall is the whole thing.
Frankly, I find the whole idea of someone writing a guide to Santee and just making up names to be shocking, just shocking!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 12, 2010 - 07:04pm PT
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Dimes
Social climber
Thinking about Retirement
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Feb 12, 2010 - 09:27pm PT
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O.K. Henny I am out of the gym and your back up is here and ready to perform one of my best skills besides my perfect climbing technique. Let's see, hmmm, the first prize for the 1981 Bouldering contest sits in my garage-a now worn out Gregory Cassin pack. I remember that I had started medic school and had not done any climbing or bouldering in several weeks. I went down just for a break from the books. Pretty sure that I bouldered only in my Aspen tennis shoes and as it turned out they were more than adequate as no problem I got on was harder than 11a. Well at least by the time tested Rubidoux standards. It seemed like more of a warm up than an actual contest but, it was a fun diversion.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 12, 2010 - 09:32pm PT
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Hey Kevin, how come I only got a rope for winning Junior Mens that year? A Gregory pack is worth way more...Yeah everything at Mt. Amick (HeHe...) is light...Had to move on...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 12, 2010 - 10:18pm PT
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Pretty sure that I bouldered only in my Aspen tennis shoes and as it turned out they were more than adequate as no problem I got on was harder than 11a.
fightin' words goddammit. there will be blood.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 12, 2010 - 10:55pm PT
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i busted up when i saw your post mike, that about sums it up
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 12, 2010 - 11:04pm PT
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All in jest!!
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Feb 12, 2010 - 11:28pm PT
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I heard that Uncertainty Principal has been soloed (death fall) but what about these that could be highballed:
Seminar Wall
Retropulsion
Airstream
Walking on Air
Great day at Woodson today.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 13, 2010 - 12:19am PT
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walking on air has been done ropeless many times. airstream? with a big pad nest it'd be a totally reasonable fall.
here in flagstaff super-high stuff (20 feet is fairly routine) gets worked out ground up. but it's done with, like, stacks of mondo's and voodoo highball 5000's built up into a cushy platform. then you throw a couple of linebacker spotters in there and next thing you know you're really going for it.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2010 - 01:34am PT
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Post up today's photos pointbrk!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Feb 13, 2010 - 02:15am PT
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There ya have it, straight from the Dime man himself..
Rubidoux standards
I guess my frequenting Rubidoux was the right way to be. They are the standards.
;)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 13, 2010 - 02:30am PT
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So jess about a month away....looking forward to the climbing and after the rock fun. Polishing off the heat lamps and the bbq. Peace, lynne
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2010 - 02:37am PT
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I tried to stay up with Tom Lindner on his solo crack circuit b.i.t.d, in his preparation to do the Nose. I asked, "Do you mind if I join you?" And he replied, "Not at all, as long as you can stay up with me." In all honesty, I had no idea how far I'd be able to stay up with him, but I was anxious to find out! I recall his black stirrup tights and how he'd leave a day pack on the road while he ran up to do the problem. Here's how far I made it:
1. IHMT
2. Scream Seam
3. Razors Edge
4. Black Finger
5. Elephant's Trunk
6. Left Long's Crack
7. Robbin's Crack
8. Driving South
9. California Night
10. Baby Robbin's
11. Jaws
I believe it was here that I petered out and whooped! I used to do Digits Delight unroped too but not this time! I'm not sure what all else Tom went on to do but I do know that he ended it with The Crucible!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2010 - 02:48am PT
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Come on you guys, you have more climbing talent/bragging rights than I do, let's here 'em!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2010 - 02:54am PT
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Ugh, I'm burping up carne asada / carnitas mini-tacos and "sanaorias", geeze that was good!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2010 - 08:37am PT
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Bump
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 13, 2010 - 05:22pm PT
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I think Dimes has lost his skills. The desert heat must have fried his brains. (god knows he was shorted in that department in the first place)
We'll see what he's got IF he shows up at woodson. I have 4 routes for him to try and send. He might get 1, maybe 2 of them but not all four.
I actually don't remember ever seeing him climb. All he does is talk about how good he is.
As far as Tom Lindners soloing at woodson, I used to meet him up there and do what I could while he would solo around 70 problems. Everything from The train to the crucible like Illusion Dweller said. The man was driven, that's for sure. He used to have a roof crack machine in his garage with I think thin hands, perfect hands, off hands, fists, and stacking. It was about 12 ft long and turned a roof to exit.
I sorta remember Chris was able to do over 10 pullups at like 2 years old.
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway, ca
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Feb 13, 2010 - 07:34pm PT
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I watched Chris lead robbins crack when he was about 6 years old
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2010 - 11:18pm PT
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I took a video of Chris getting Uncertainty in the '90 contest, he was (6) then as well!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 13, 2010 - 11:56pm PT
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Got Crack?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 12:59am PT
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Gipson, Where are those pictures on TV Screen that you took?!
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 14, 2010 - 01:10am PT
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We've sort of stalled, so Im gonna tell you a Mt Woodson story. Back in the early 90's Im guessing, an ambitious young man named Dave did a route he called "obsession". I heard two versions of the story: The crux hold was loose and they were afraid it was going to pop, so they injected epoxy behind it to hold it in place, OR the hold came off but was glued back onto the face exactly as it had been, and you cant even tell.
I heard about it sunday and monday after work me and peter campos geared up and walked straight up to "obsession" in a light rain. The hold in question stood out from 30 yards away for alot of reasons. The color was wrong, the grain didnt match, it was unnaturally affixed to the face without being connected to the rock and brown glue had oozed out and dried around the edges.
I dropped a fixed line, jumared up and saw that the top of the hold had also been hewn flat. It was ugly. A 6" cold chisel and one swing of the hammer took it off, leaving a big brown spot of dried glue. I gathered up the pieces and saved them, and just came across them.
Whaddaya think, any evidence of gluing?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 01:16am PT
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Dimes? I just scrolled back and noted that you "went to medic school." Paramedic? If so, when and where did you get trained? Where'd you work? I just gave up the profession in '07 after (14) years as a Paramedic and (17) years in the business. I also brought my license into the military at (37) y.o. and served in the Navy Reserves as a Corpsman for eight years. My contract expired in '07. I served one tour in Iraq with the 1/23 Marines out of Houston, Texas from '04 to '05. All in all, EMS was "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride", I had a blast! Iraq was just another chapter in EMS and produced pretty much nothing...which meant I was bored silly, relatively bored, that is! I guess that was a good thing.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 01:18am PT
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Dave "Spray" R.? I was just talking about him the other day to Henny!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 01:29am PT
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Lynne, check your "junk mail" for I've been leaving you emails but no response. Can I post your address online for the post climb party on Saturday (I think I found it on whitepages.com) or how would you like to do this? Leave me an email please.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 01:33am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is no longer available.)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 14, 2010 - 01:37am PT
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yep that would be spray dave. Me n greg saw him the next day and i explained why that sht wont fly here, and how he better cool his jets because hes getting people stirred up with these hijinx. I had my say and started up the hill, then greg spoke his piece. I was a couple switchbacks ahead and could still hear greg saying "you fked with the rock! you dont fk with the rock!".
a couple days later im bouldering around painted and here comes piggot down the hill. He sees me and gets this giant grin and holds his hand out for a high-five as he walks by. I appreciated that.
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Feb 14, 2010 - 01:38am PT
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Holy crap! Late entry for MisterE and Justthemaid?
Is there room? ;)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 01:40am PT
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The antics aside, he was one young talent I might say!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 01:42am PT
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Never too late, DONE MisterE and Justthemaid!
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 14, 2010 - 01:42am PT
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Dave was a cranking fool, and i tried to tell him he has so much talent he doesnt need to be doing nefarious things. It will get you a reputation, but not the one you want.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 01:46am PT
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I was tellin' Henny about when Rick, or someone, brought him to Phd and Dave onsighted the thing on a TR. I was there as well and recall Rick just shaking his head in what appeared to be silent awe. What was Dave then seventeen or nineteen? It was one of the two!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 14, 2010 - 01:56am PT
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Yeah I remember onsighting PHD when Rick took me there as well BITD...It even looked like a pinned out scar at the crux...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 02:07am PT
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Henny just did Phd the other day. He told me it was a beautiful route, and that he was really glad he finally went there and did it!
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 14, 2010 - 04:28am PT
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Michael Paul and me on Dinner Ledge, S. face of Washington column
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 04:41am PT
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Gosh Mike, looks like you were just a kid! Great picture Ron...sentimental.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 14, 2010 - 01:30pm PT
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It's surprising to me that PhD doesn't get raved about more than it does. What a great line, and good climbing. The "Wheat Thin" of Woodson at the bottom. It's in my personal top 10 up there.
Is it because it's not hard enough that people don't mention it much? Kind of odd. Quality is quality regardless of some number/letter pairing. If it's the mono etc., well, that can't be undone now. Don't use it, use it, don't do it at all, I guess everybody makes their own call in that respect.
PhD does have some interesting history (scars + rearranging of the bolts), and unfortunately, the fallout from some of that history can still be seen on the rock. But almost every thin crack I've done up there has something about it. Too bad those things keep getting brought up, but hopefully it will serve a purpose by keeping people from thinking it's OK to alter rock in the present or future.
Post some pictures people. I know you were out there this weekend...
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 14, 2010 - 04:40pm PT
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PHD is for sure one of the best routes at woodson. It's steep and long and it is the wheat thin of woodson. Damn, that old man (henny) did the thing? Probably fired it first try.
I remember the glued hold on that route obsession. It was sticking out like a sore thumb. But those things are hopefully in the past.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 07:01pm PT
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There are soooo many classic lines up at Woodson, easy, moderate, hard, there all up there! For example, Milkbar, 5.9...I found the thing and did it for the first time late last year, yep, the very first time after 28 years!. Short but what a great line and movement it has! If you haven't already Darrell, you and Johnny/Chas should find it and check it out just to tick one more off the list.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 07:09pm PT
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Okay you guys, need your help...
On the way to Rockwork Orange, near the end of the trail before you turn left/southwest to the top of the RWO boulder, stop, look right and back/northeast and you'll see a group of large boulders up on the hill, one laying against the other. The downhill boulder has white, horizontal dikes up it's west face, a Piggot problem? that requires quite a reach near the top and the uphill boulder that leans on the lower boulder creates a flaring, right leaning crack which goes at 5.11, I believe. They were in the '86 contest. Why does "Long Tall Texan" ring a bell for that dike problem?
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 14, 2010 - 07:15pm PT
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Other than greg's "long tall texan" problem at santee?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 07:18pm PT
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ahhh...okay, I'm wrong, that's where I got that name. What are the names of those two problems on Woodson? Something to do with that long reach at the top?
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 14, 2010 - 07:30pm PT
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Your circuit with Lindner was pretty impressive Gary, its good to hear you are climbing well. Its really hard to compare achievements however, because we all get something different out of climbing.
My thing has always been exploration, looking around the next corner, going a bit lower down some gully or making my way out to some formation that has caught my eye. An hour of busting brush that leads to some cool untouched line, another hour or so to clear the landing and access the top, a little rest/beer/psych time, more time to set the rope and climb it, then a couple hours spent turning the access track into a trail on the way out could end up in a whole day on a single climb.
And to me that is a great day.
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 14, 2010 - 07:32pm PT
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Im pretty sure i know the climbs you mean, but as far as who did em or what theyre called...no idea.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 07:58pm PT
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If it wasn't for those like yourself Ron, we wouldn't have the problems that we did/do! It still impresses me that SOMEONE has to find the problems and create the comfortable trails we all seem to take for granted.
Don't be impressed with what I gave myself credit to be able to do back then for it was this very selfish, prideful behavior that eventually destroyed my and many others lives years later. I was just trying to stimulate conversation to hear the amazing stories and even smack that someone else might have. Ray Olson told some pretty funny ones, if you recall, much earlier in the thread. It would be fun to hear more.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 08:01pm PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is no longer available.)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 14, 2010 - 09:50pm PT
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vawto on tv screen
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Feb 14, 2010 - 09:54pm PT
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slabdyno4lyfe Cool old pic.
Curt
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 14, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
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Who's the scarecrow at the bottom of the pic?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 14, 2010 - 10:26pm PT
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Yeah Reign 1, that was my "question" too. That face peering around kinda gives it an added touch.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 14, 2010 - 10:29pm PT
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you guys don't know? wtf!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 14, 2010 - 10:36pm PT
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messin' with ya
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 14, 2010 - 10:51pm PT
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Kinda like a scary movie, where the cousin they keep locked in the cellar suddenly peers around the corner....
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 14, 2010 - 10:59pm PT
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eppi on eppicenter
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 14, 2010 - 11:05pm PT
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Homeboy!!! We want more pics of Homie.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 14, 2010 - 11:19pm PT
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I didn't know Greg climbed. I know he can mantle stuff but actually climb? I though his backpack just contained cameras and film.
Maybe it's a different Epperson?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2010 - 11:57pm PT
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Bob, on a friendly note, I was corrected on this photo in the past and I'm going to share it with you too. Look closely, Greg is on the north face of Lonesome Boulder at Santee in that picture, not Eppicenter at Woodson. Although taken at a little different angle, look at the features that I highlighted and you can pretty much conclude without question that it is the Lonesome Boulder.
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 15, 2010 - 12:34am PT
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Ya gotta be kidding reign, I could go into a rave but I will just say Epps could crank with the best of em.
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 15, 2010 - 12:49am PT
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heres our boy greg and yours truly (with the rasta hair) at pink boulder, mission gorge, circa 1980
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 01:10am PT
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That Pink Boulder was the best! Can't believe it's been taken over by mother nature!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 01:12am PT
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Greg! Where the heck you been? Gosh, you just put a smile on my face...it's been too long. It's me, Gary McCay. But, but, look at the features I've highlighted, they're the same, how can that be? The picture on the left is from rc.com on the Lonesome boulder.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 01:16am PT
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You can click on the picture and enlarge it...
Good to hear from you Greg. It'll be nice to see you again in March.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 15, 2010 - 01:46am PT
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Gonamok, I am kidding. I've climbed with greg at woodson and the gorge a bunch of times. hahaha
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 02:10am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is no longer available.)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 02:37am PT
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You can make a better comparison of the features in this one...
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 15, 2010 - 02:59am PT
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have you considered that maybe rc.com had it incorrectly identified? That is the back side of the dogpile, just off the ledge to the far right of the shawn curtis mantles, over a really bad landing. If it comes down to word, i think i will go with greg.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 15, 2010 - 03:25am PT
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Ron, I concur
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 04:13am PT
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Guys, come on goodness gracious! Look at the picture on the left. Does that look like the backside of Dogpile on the right side? I am familiar with that bad landing traverse as well as you are. This is not that traverse for there is nothing to the left of that guy! Its the east end of he north face of Lonesome boulder. Rc.com has various views of this boulder, go and look. Greg's picture is tilted a bit to the right, or vice-versa, otherwise its the same boulder.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 04:23am PT
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50 year old men arguing over a ROCK!
Edit: Note that "50" doesn't include me, not yet, haha!
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 15, 2010 - 01:38pm PT
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Since 50 doesn't include you Gary, maybe you should listen to your elders. LOL
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 02:53pm PT
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I'm listening Donny, and I'm learning, learning that somebody needs to get a new eyeglass prescription!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 02:57pm PT
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I think its unanimous that the climb is not the Eppicenter and its not at Woodson and that it is Greg Epperson on the Lonesome Boulder at Santee. Case closed...next subject?
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 15, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
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hahaha! That is santee for sure. Just different name of boulders. Good thing I'm a woodson local and not a clantee local.
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Feb 15, 2010 - 04:18pm PT
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This time of year the green hills of santuckey have a look of Ireland to them,
maybe it's time for a Guinness
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 15, 2010 - 04:29pm PT
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"maybe it's time for a Guinness"
First worthwile post in two f&*king months!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 15, 2010 - 04:38pm PT
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 15, 2010 - 05:23pm PT
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yep, santee can look like ireland after a good wet winter.
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 15, 2010 - 09:36pm PT
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A wise man picks his battles. Greg is our own. He's a hometown boy who went out into the world and came back with international acclaim. I learned to climb with greg at mission gorge way back when, and Im proud of my homie, we all are. Even if you win your gonna lose.
Sometimes silence is the best answer, grasshopper.
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Mimi
climber
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Feb 15, 2010 - 09:41pm PT
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Awesome shot, Bob!
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 15, 2010 - 09:44pm PT
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50 year old men arguing over a ROCK!
so quit arguing
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Feb 15, 2010 - 10:15pm PT
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Santee is a different sort of place after a fire.
For one thing, the trolls come out...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 11:25pm PT
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North side of Lonesome Boulder...
Traverse with bad landing - North Side of Dogpile...
Traverse with Bad Landing - North Side of Dogpile
Greg Epperson on ?....choose one from above...
Convinced?...
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 15, 2010 - 11:34pm PT
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Whoa Doug, Bob looks like some poster child from an old war ad in that one...
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 15, 2010 - 11:45pm PT
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I'm going to inject a quick off area post/picture for bvb - remember this 19 point problem?
Maybe we should go there Sunday after the shindig.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 11:48pm PT
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Aye, F10! A wee bit doesn't it?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 15, 2010 - 11:50pm PT
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damn darrel. what is that? is that flabob? sucker looks balder than a plucked chicken's behind!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2010 - 11:51pm PT
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Evolve just came through with some cool giveaways...what a blessing!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 15, 2010 - 11:53pm PT
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actually, it looks a little bit like in my time of dimes, although dosent' imtod have a gully-time feature off to the right of it?
now i'm all confused.
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 15, 2010 - 11:57pm PT
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can you spell A N A L?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 16, 2010 - 12:00am PT
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Pull like a psycho, high step the right to the right hand... done deal.
Flabob.
Edit: Hey!!! bvb - don't use my name like that when describing a problem. haha
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2010 - 12:08am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is no longer available.)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 16, 2010 - 12:12am PT
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done deal
as long as there are climbers who dare to be humbled, flabob will never be a done deal.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 16, 2010 - 12:25am PT
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I think it's still a rarely done deal. Thought you might get a kick out of that picture - good first guess.
OK, back to the regularly scheduled programming.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2010 - 12:25am PT
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Edumacate me...where is "flabob", what area?
Edit: I answered my own question...Rubidoux
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 16, 2010 - 01:13am PT
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That route is a hiking trip. I think RR did it in the early 50's. Typical Rubadubtub slab route. Probably really rated 5.8
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Feb 16, 2010 - 01:15am PT
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I dunno, I like the way that pic makes Mt Rubberblow almost look appealing, well done!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2010 - 02:11am PT
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Remember seeing this?....
I have to giv'em credit, it was a pretty sturdy stack!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2010 - 02:59am PT
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A.N.A.L. = Always Need Accurate Limns
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Feb 16, 2010 - 11:40am PT
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You're like a dog with a bone Gary, its not your most charming trait.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2010 - 03:03pm PT
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I agree Offwhite, I'm working on that, bear with me...
March is approaching, that was quick!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 16, 2010 - 08:49pm PT
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Well, camping on the property is still possible, Illusiondweller. If people email me I will be happy to accomodate them. I am actually climbing so not near a computer as much as I used to be.....THIS opportunity to climb is a dream for lynnie. Cheers and looking forward to March. :D
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 16, 2010 - 09:21pm PT
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gonamok
Trad climber
disgrunteled old guy
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Feb 16, 2010 - 10:51pm PT
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Apparently No Appropriate Limits
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 16, 2010 - 11:52pm PT
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Gary, got to let you know that I won't be able to make this one...Some of my art is being shown at university and is going to be moved from OSU to UofO at that time...Gotta be there to make sure it is presented properly...Peace, MP.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Feb 16, 2010 - 11:56pm PT
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Sorry to hear that Mike, it's been too many years since I've seen your grinning mug.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2010 - 11:58pm PT
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Amick Never ANALyzes...Ludicrous!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 12:00am PT
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Mike, Mike, Mike...Not Acceptable!
Dude, you're going to be missed...*sigh*
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 12:04am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul Cannot attend...What do we do now?!
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fobby
143. Andre
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont make me come over there
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Feb 17, 2010 - 12:12am PT
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Verification appreciated
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 12:14am PT
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That's a double negative Ron...try again.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont make me come over there
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Feb 17, 2010 - 12:32am PT
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Secondary substantiation also appreciated
Quick english lesson: That was not a double negative. If i were to say "you never let nothing go" THAT would be a double negative, albeit an incorrect one
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 12:38am PT
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LOL...reaches out and shakes his hand.
Truce.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont make me come over there
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Feb 17, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 12:51am PT
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Ludicrous; "Idiotic or unthinkable, often to the point of being funny"
So to say that when someone "never" does something is "ludicrous" (unthinkable) is not a double negative?
Uhemm...
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont make me come over there
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Feb 17, 2010 - 12:54am PT
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no, a facetious comment qualifies as satire. To be a double negative it has to be something like "amick doesnt never analize"...which of course is ludicrous
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 12:58am PT
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"To think that Ron analyzes (spelling, get it right Ron, lol) is ludicrous." I read this to mean that you don't analyze. But to say, "To think that Ron never analyzes is ludicrous"...please clarify how to interpret this, please.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 17, 2010 - 01:03am PT
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I think it's past your bed time guys. LOL
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 17, 2010 - 01:17am PT
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Did it work?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 02:20am PT
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Erik "the Plumber" at Santee today...
illusiondweller...
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 17, 2010 - 02:44am PT
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Yeah, as much as I'd like to see you all, my showings mean a lot toward my future in art and I have no alternative it appears...I know I won't be missed seeing as you have such a wealth of great talent attending, but know I'm there always in spirit!!GBWY!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 04:29am PT
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The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul Cannot attend...What do we do now?!
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fobby
143. Andre
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 04:29am PT
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May I ask Mike...what kind of art are you doing?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 04:46am PT
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So, Mike...why the heck am I trying to come up with a logo for a t-shirt when you're producing professional artwork? Looks like you have quite a future there Mr. Paul!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 04:50am PT
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Just sent you an email Mike.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 17, 2010 - 04:58am PT
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Gary, your logo looked cool! Just kind of mirrored the old one, but that was perfect for the image. Need some weird Sci-Fi I'm there, but you know in the Biz they always say...Less is more! Would love to help in any way! PTL
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont make me come over there
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Feb 17, 2010 - 06:42pm PT
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Reign is right
It was meant to be a play on words, anal-ize
:)
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont make me come over there
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Feb 17, 2010 - 06:45pm PT
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Well i was looking forward to seeing you mike
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Feb 17, 2010 - 07:04pm PT
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Damn Mike, I was REALLY wishing you were going to be there. You will be missed BELIEVE me bro. You are so much a part of Woodson, hope the art is on the up for you with some great potential, you have a talent beyond my comprehension!
Peace bro!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 17, 2010 - 09:54pm PT
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Somebody post some pictures of something, anything, at Woodson. Don't force me to post pics from that "other" place just so we have something to talk about. Either that or toss some smack out there.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 17, 2010 - 09:59pm PT
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ok henny, i'll try to dig through the archives.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 10:41pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul Cannot attend...What do we do now?!
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fobby
143. Andre
144. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com);
145. ? Zach
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 10:46pm PT
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Anyone ever have problems with the photo loader on here? Mine keeps showing the ID#? Any suggestions?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 17, 2010 - 10:56pm PT
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Gary I always post my photos to photobucket or some other host site then paste the image link here...It just bypasses the hassle...MP.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 11:06pm PT
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So, you have to click on the link in order to see your photo Mike?
Can anyone see the photo of the Woodson logo below or just the photoid?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 11:26pm PT
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"Ahhh, the ping of the rawl..." Phd, 5.12a ('88-'89)
"After taking a near 40' grounder and walking away R. Piggot, keeping to ground-up ethics, hung out on a hook to drill two bolts to protect the upper crux section." Photo/Title by: Mini
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Feb 17, 2010 - 11:27pm PT
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Henny, nice job on PhD. No pics of that I assume.
Hey blr, gonzo, sd I know you all were out there, you bring the camera?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 11:32pm PT
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Okay, I got it...seems it wants text below the photo now before it'll post the picture.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 17, 2010 - 11:46pm PT
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Unfortunately, no pictures Eliot. I'd already like to go back to it again - anytime.
That blurb about PhD mentions 2 bolts. There are 3, with the first being at about the level of Rick's feet I think. Did Rick do it on 2? If so, what's with 3 - and which one got added? (Donny?, anybody?)
Edit: Donny, were you there when he drilled? Did he go to that good face hold (where the hook is) off what I assume is a cam. Not the crux but hard enough to be dicey given the thin flake. Then put a hook on it and get back down onto it? All the while... well, I guess that's why he hit the ground once. There would be two bolts before that face hold now. What is the story?
Yeah, I know people must have taken pics last weekend. Hopefully we'll see some.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 11:51pm PT
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Back in the day...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2010 - 11:58pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul Cannot attend...What do we do now?!
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fobby
143. Andre
144. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com);
145. ? Zach
146. Tucker Tech
===
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Feb 18, 2010 - 12:10am PT
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What about the dirt lot where the house is ??
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 18, 2010 - 12:29am PT
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yeah. i remember we used to park right at the warm-up boulders. it was like a two minute walk to hear my train. golly i miss those days.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 18, 2010 - 01:13am PT
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Last night...
Credit: Local Photographer.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 03:17am PT
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Yeah, a lot has changed with many disgruntled climbers over the years but a nice entrance was created by the CDF guys and it's still a nice walk in to the road.
The weather has been so beautiful lately. Those photo's tell it all. Pray for a repeat in March!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 03:37am PT
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"Ilona" on Robbin's Crack
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 18, 2010 - 03:38am PT
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Add Tucker Tech to the list;.....someone told him there would be beer....
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 03:44am PT
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Got him Todd.
"Opinionated, intelligent, out-spoken and grubby, Tech truly lives the life of the world climber. His prolific climbing career and beer consumption are nothing short of legendary. His stinky feet, he wears no shoes other than climbing shoes, have disgusted generations of climbers, and his ability to endure uncomfortable and difficult situations is well known." http://www.joshuatreeclimb.com/HistoryGuest/profiles/pretuckertech.htm
http://www.gregepperson.com/
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 18, 2010 - 03:55am PT
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We rode our mountain bikes up the road last night at dusk. What a perfect day.
Henny, I wasn't there when Ricky put those bolts in. When he took the fall he was trying to do it on placements after the other bolts were pulled. I wouldn't doubt it if someone added bolts to the climb.
But Rick would know the whole story. (or Lydia)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 03:56am PT
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Description: El Barbaro Boulder near Mount Woodson Summit.
Numbered according to Erik Roed's "Over the Top of the Hill" guide.
From left to right:
Wiggle, Aid Seam, Mustang Flake, El Barbaro
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 04:06am PT
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Now this looks cool!
Wiggle, El Barbaro Boulder...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 04:23am PT
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And the mystery about "Pit Bull" continues...Here's a story I just found from http://climbingsandiego.com/forum/index.php/topic,522.0.html:
"Rolling Stone (#29) taken from close to the building (with slab and 2 air-conditioners behind it, and just before the 2 white gas tanks). Originally onsite soloed by Rick Piggot, Bob Van Belle almost bought it here when Piggot "showed it to him". Just out of sight to the right is a V1 with a crux start to set up a tr. Supposedly this boulder shifted, hense the name, but thats pretty hard to imagine."
Bob, you know anything about this?
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Feb 18, 2010 - 10:15am PT
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Here's one from Saturday morning of Head first. Damn thing is pretty hard.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 18, 2010 - 01:48pm PT
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Bob, you know anything about this?
i remember piggot taking me to a crack that was near the summit, but it didn't look anything like that photo. it was downhill from the towers, before you get to the dragon, on the downhill side of the boulder, facing south. high, scary high, hear my train high. 5.11ish. piggot said "you gotta check this out" so we went down there. we were looking at it and he was giving me one of those "well?" kinda piggot silences. i had to go for it. turn out the crux was up pretty high and while i didn't have a meltdown or anything -- you really need to keep it together up there -- i was pretty aware of the bad possibilities in the event of a fall. i was pretty psyched to do it. it's another one of those countless woodson problems that would be mega-classics if they were closer to the road.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 03:31pm PT
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Well, there you have it...another case of misinformation on someone elses part. Thanks for clarifying that Bob. "Pit Bull" still stands, lol!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 18, 2010 - 03:35pm PT
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well, it may or may not be misinformation. i only did it once, that was 25 years ago, and i ain't been back to it since!
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Feb 18, 2010 - 03:42pm PT
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anyone local going to get up there this weekend? it's looking like i might be able to swing a couple of hours either sat or sun.
way outta shape but i could at least tool around on the warm ups.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 18, 2010 - 03:52pm PT
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way outta shape but i could at least tool around on the warm ups
oh god, welcome to my world. bitches don't know.
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Feb 18, 2010 - 04:24pm PT
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riiiiiight... set low expectations then come in and crush. i know your type bob, i know your type...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 04:46pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul Cannot attend...What do we do now?!
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16-17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30-31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90-91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123-124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (El Cajon)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fobby
143. Andre
144. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com);
145. ? Zach
146. Tucker Tech
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 04:48pm PT
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Believe it or not, it may be J-Tree for me this weekend! I say that because I haven't been out there since March '05! If I don't go I'll probably be out there Saturday Jeff. I'll let you know.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 06:18pm PT
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Wow, I found a classic site with a bit of Woodson history as well. Looks to be a 50th b-day gift for someone. Here are some of the photos. Pipe in if you can identify the climber that turned 50 and any others, as well as the climb:
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 18, 2010 - 06:20pm PT
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is that mariah on the left? link to the site?
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diablo
Trad climber
sd,ca
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Feb 18, 2010 - 06:21pm PT
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mariha, ericson and of course Largo
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 06:31pm PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 06:34pm PT
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Jeff...I'm heading out to Santee right now...can you join me? I'll leave my number in an email.
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Feb 18, 2010 - 07:08pm PT
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no, sorry.. i can never really leave work before 5, then it would take an hour to get to woodson or santee. weekday afternoons are a no go until we get more light.. have fun!!
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Feb 18, 2010 - 07:12pm PT
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Fairly certain that first photo is Elephant Trunk. Also, the one that's the TV Screen arete is pretty obvious as well.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 18, 2010 - 07:31pm PT
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this guy's lemon chiffon beta is all messed up. and wtf is with the top-rope?
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Feb 18, 2010 - 09:27pm PT
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looks so easy from that angle. havent been back to it since i was there with you bob...
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Feb 18, 2010 - 09:34pm PT
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More B&W BITD
photo credit Tom Scott
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 18, 2010 - 10:31pm PT
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oh god, welcome to my world. bitches don't know.
Yeah, right. We're supposed to believe that? Dude, some of us didn't start playing this game yesterday.
That sure doesn't look like Maria (Cranor) to me. (Nor E or JL).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 10:33pm PT
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Who needs a harness and an ATC anyway? A bowline on a coil, a hip belay and an apple in your mouth 'll do, come on!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 10:37pm PT
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The guy in the bottom photo almost looks like Darrell with hair!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 10:50pm PT
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Was it Banana Crack originally?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 10:54pm PT
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I added some of the captions that were associated with the photos and added some with names that I identified on the website.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 18, 2010 - 11:05pm PT
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with hair
Thanks. I won't forget that.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 11:08pm PT
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Andrew Wright...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2010 - 11:12pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul Cannot attend...What do we do now?!
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16 - 17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30 - 31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe (SDCC)
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90 - 91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123 - 124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (SDCC)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fobby
143. Andre
144. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com);
145. ? Zach
146. Tucker Tech
147. Jeff (SDCC)
148. Anastasia Frangos
149 - 150. Bill & Anastasia Sherman
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Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2010 - 12:29am PT
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The one of the guy doing Lemon Chiffon backward is captioned, "early bouldering contest, So. Cal." Was there a Woodson contest prior to '86 or is this the '86 contest?
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 19, 2010 - 12:56am PT
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"Marhia(sp), E, Largo...
Couldn't hang with any of them, but knew the faces, can't make any of those work, not even inflation adjusted. Especially Largo, "where's the beef?"
Diablo, ease up on the Tequila dude/bro, memory is suffering...
BH
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Feb 19, 2010 - 01:09am PT
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Ahhhh!
Why does this have to happen at the same time as Red Rocks?! Explain! (Yeah, I am just throwing a fit and whining because I'm torn between the two events.) I want to see Mal, Mary, etc. at Red Rocks and I want to see all of you too! Can we all just get along?
Hugs,
AFS
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2010 - 01:27am PT
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That's an easy one Anastasia! First and foremost, my post was first if I'm not mistaken (Dec 12). Second, is Red Rocks having a post climb presentation/party two days in a row? Third, will Red Rocks be GIVING AWAY the schwag that'll be handed out (including three ropes)?! Lastly, look at the turnout and the amount of climbing history that'll be present up on Woodson! I think I'll add your name to "The List" right now! Shall I?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 19, 2010 - 03:30am PT
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Yeah Gary there was one in like '77 if I remember...I won an ice axe for second in junior men's to my ol' pal Frank Noble...One also in '81 that had JB first in senior men's, myself first in junior men's, and Mari for the ladies...I remember it was kind of cool after 'cause me and my two pals had all the new ropes...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2010 - 06:40am PT
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bump
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Calvinclimber
Big Wall climber
Bend, OR
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Feb 20, 2010 - 01:09pm PT
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Wish I could make it.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Feb 20, 2010 - 04:03pm PT
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Sickle Crack was never called Banana Crack (at least by anybody I know). Somebody was misinformed.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Feb 20, 2010 - 05:11pm PT
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Yeah, I think Gary's event at Woodson will be GAS! FRIENDS old and new bouldering, slandering, sandbagging, hassling, and bothering each other! Gary's got lots of cool giveaways! TWO after parties with LEGENDS of the climbing world...a slanderfest at one of them. Food, fun and flimbing! What more could one want. The Woodson shindig is a RARE event, the Vegas thing happens every year. A lucky chance to hang with OLD, OLD friends....who could pass that up? See ya there!
Peace
Edit.......hey Gary I'm in for one of the ropes or any other of the cool swag you got comin' our way!
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gonamok
Trad climber
It takes a big man to cry
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Feb 20, 2010 - 06:59pm PT
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I remember the 81 contest mike, i was hanging with you and watching in amazement the whole time. I won a rich sims chalk bag for coming in like 100th.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Feb 20, 2010 - 08:38pm PT
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There was also a 1980 contest. Here's a shot of me on Robbins Crack:
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 20, 2010 - 09:14pm PT
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I remember the 81 contest mike, i was hanging with you and watching in amazement the whole time.
dude. why don't you just blow him.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Feb 20, 2010 - 09:52pm PT
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To paraphrase Monty Python:
"...No, please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let's not bicker and argue about who blew who..."
Curt
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Feb 20, 2010 - 10:17pm PT
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To paraphrase Monty Python:
"...No, please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let's not bicker and argue about who blew who..."
And to further butcher a classic...
"But father, I don't want to climb. I'd rather sing."
"STOP that, stop that... there'll be no singing here!"
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Feb 20, 2010 - 10:36pm PT
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Nice and cool at Woodson today. It dried out around 2:00 and got sticky. Is this Stealth Bomber? The picture is just right around the corner from Rick's ramp. Very good but not that hard.
I got on Top Secret File when it started to get dark and that thing is hard and a little dangerous. Was that done on a rope or anyone have any history/info on it?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 20, 2010 - 10:56pm PT
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not only have i never seen top secret file done, i can't even recall ever seeing chalk on it. i have no idea what the history is but i don't think it was tr'd. is the landing bad?
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Feb 21, 2010 - 12:17am PT
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It was pretty bad but I rolled a leg breaker out of the way. That thing would be really bad ass with only a piece of carpet covering the landing. You step off a boulder/shelf on the right side of the face in a lieback of sorts, get situated and then step left onto the face and over the leg breaker. Beautiful.
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gonamok
Trad climber
It takes a big man to cry
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Feb 21, 2010 - 12:50am PT
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dude. why don't you just blow him.
bob, how many times have i told you that Im not into the "alternative lifestyle" thing like you?
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gonamok
Trad climber
It takes a big man to cry
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Feb 21, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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Dan told me he bouldered Top Secret File on the FA
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 21, 2010 - 01:04am PT
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bob, how many times have i told you that Im not into the "alternative lifestyle" thing like you?
you mean there really is no chance for us?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 21, 2010 - 01:11am PT
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Mooser maybe the one I'm thinking about was '80...I was 20 and just skated under the under 21 age limit thing...But it was ages ago and I can't be expected to remember these things...Just a note no one's blowing anybody now kids!
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Feb 21, 2010 - 09:19am PT
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Watusi: I remember it was 1980, because as I was heading down the road to another problem, you were heading up, and as we talked you told me you'd just heard about Tobin dying. That was pretty bad news for an otherwise great day.
That was also the year that Bachar won, and Mari and Mariah C (?) arm-wrestled for women's first place. It was pretty funny, and I think Mari won.
I got 9th place (not in women's), and won a chalk bag or something. It was kind of odd because for those of us who were locals, it was the first time we'd used a rope on a lot of the problems we had wired.
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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Feb 21, 2010 - 02:58pm PT
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I like the name Banana Crack, it's complex and dignified. However you can remove a dogs tale with a sickel and so it get's my vote. That may sound callus (it's not) to some but I'm just lettin "you know who" know that I'm a guy in case he gets to beggin to spot me. For a week I've had to listen to my wife, a woman, tell me that "The View" is on. And then listen to her fiendish laughter. Well, it turns out that it's a pretty good show. Really good! As good as Martha Steawart but different. Martha may tell you how to sew a chalk bag but on The View they will tell you why. But not untill you've already done it. Barbara Walters is the leader but Joy of course is funnier. Whoopie is an idiot and is counter balanced by this thooth ache chick. Back to the subject of route names, yesterday I read for the first time of Camerons Traverse. That sounds like it might of been chipped. Please put my name down low on the list amongst the pure, say somewhere in the lower two hundreds, thank you.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 21, 2010 - 09:13pm PT
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isn't there already a left and right banana crack in josh?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 21, 2010 - 10:11pm PT
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Okay, I'm back from Josh...burrrrr! Nice Saturday afternoon otherwise cool and windy. It was good to return since '05! Did the probs on the Hensell Boulder, one 10b off finger lead, TR'd Toe Jam, got humbled on Clean and Jerk and Fistful of Walnuts in the Turtle Rock area today. Camping and fellowship over the campfire with acoustic and the dobro guitar was the highlight! Although dehydrated, sore and tired, it was good, really good!
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Feb 21, 2010 - 11:47pm PT
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Someone has been up Woodson clearing brush on some of the trails. good idea!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 22, 2010 - 12:15am PT
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mooser, Hi from lynnie. For history sake....To my knowledge Mari and Maria C. never arm wrestled for anything. Brenda Bachar and I did the arm wrestle because we tied. I won the arm gig. Brenda was a good sport and she should have won. Brenda was a much better climber than I. Dan just told me to do all the easy problems and he was right about racking up points that way. :D could it have been 1982 ??
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climber
socal
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Feb 22, 2010 - 01:36am PT
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A pic from last weekend and a pic from today.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 01:40am PT
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The Ogre in the top picture? The bottom....don't know!
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Feb 22, 2010 - 01:41am PT
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WIDE is good.
Johannsolo, where is that scooped out climb you're on?
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Feb 22, 2010 - 02:48am PT
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On Sat. Lauren and I hiked down to this boulder.
Fist jamming.
Trying the inversion.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 03:57am PT
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Got two more coming...Bill & Anastasia Sherman!
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Feb 22, 2010 - 10:00am PT
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The scoop is in the lower Playground area. Not sure if it is Stealth Bomber or not(anyone?). Darrell and I spent Sunday in mostly rain with a little clearing and waiting for things to dry on a project on the Imax screen. It will be very hard if even climbable.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Feb 22, 2010 - 10:26am PT
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"mooser, Hi from lynnie. For history sake....To my knowledge Mari and Maria C. never arm wrestled for anything. Brenda Bachar and I did the arm wrestle because we tied. I won the arm gig. Brenda was a good sport and she should have won. Brenda was a much better climber than I. Dan just told me to do all the easy problems and he was right about racking up points that way. :D could it have been 1982 ??"
Hi Lynnie,
It was definitely 1980, as well as Mari and either Maria C., or the woman who, along with her husband, wrote that book on climbing technique back in EB days (and whose name escapes me). But how funny that two years later, there'd be a similar face-off! Way to crank!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 22, 2010 - 12:28pm PT
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Nice Eliot and blr. Pics are the ticket.
The clouds/mist in blr's last photo pretty much sum yesterday up. It gives everything kind of an odd feel, kinda cool with the stuff swirling around. But a pisser when it decides to piss down.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 22, 2010 - 01:20pm PT
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being a coastal mountain woodson does on occasion get interesting weather. i especially liked it in the late afternoon when a clear, warm day would give over to clouds swirling in from off the coast. always felt kinda scottish to me as wind would whip the mist around the boulders. then there was the time in '86 when it snowed, and everything from about big grunt up to the summit was frosted. really should have gotten photos of that.
not sure what that fist crack is in the photos upstream, but it's not undertow. i don't recognize it.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 03:03pm PT
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Edit: I take it "The Hensel Boulder" at Josh is after you Darrell?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Watusi aka Mike Paul Cannot attend...What do we do now?!
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16 - 17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. M. David (can't attend)
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30 - 31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. ? Matt (can't attend)
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe (SDCC)
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90 - 91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. glahhg aka Nate (http://pullharder.org);
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123 - 124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (SDCC)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fobby
143. Andre
144. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com);
145. ? Zach
146. Tucker Tech
147. Jeff (SDCC)
148. Anastasia Frangos
149 - 150. Bill & Anastasia Sherman
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Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:18pm PT
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I have no idea how or why the boulder ended up with that formal name. Given that I did problems on it way, way, way bitd, combined with what seemed to be the practice of occasionally naming boulders after people, I suspect that the match between the boulder's name and mine has some kind of correlation.
One of the "l"s should be dropped from my last name - two "l"s first, one "l" last. If something has it "Hensell" then that's incorrect.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 03:29pm PT
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Oops! I fixed that Darrell, sorry and thanks for the bit of history. Fun problems.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 03:32pm PT
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I just checked my junk mail and just as I hit "Delete" to empty all the trash I caught something out of my periphery that said, "noreply@..." and I'm suspecting I just deleted someone's email to me from SuperTopo, darn it! Whoever that was, please leave another. Thanks and sorry.
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
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Nope, it's not Undertow. I can't find that one yet.
It's Boulder 13 unless I'm totally screwed up. I've actually only seen a couple photos of it so I could be wrong. Either way it took me and Lauren most of Sat. to bush wack to it.
It's overhanging fists to vertical offwidth about 12-15 feet tall.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 22, 2010 - 03:50pm PT
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bvb - dude, you must be as old as me or something... put your glasses on before reading this thread. Whatever Eliot's last photo is, the first one is also. Check out the small boulders at the base, they're the same.
Edit: Dang it Eliot, I was hoping to smack bvb but your last post deflected the shot. Oh well.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:00pm PT
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Why would one would actually want to "find" Undertow? Some things are better off being lost forever.
Thin is in.
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:01pm PT
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Eliot,
Did you make a trail, or just whack your way out to B13? I want to bring clippers and make a trail. That's the next on my list of hard offwidths at Woodson that I need to tick. I finally got Greg's Crack last time I was out there.
Josh
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:25pm PT
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heh, sorry for softening that blow henny.
Josh, I started making a trail. I need to go back with sharper clippers though, or a blowtorch. The path of least resistance comes down a wash from the boulders behind Train. It'd be good to find out if B13 is still on Woodson land. When I was at the boulder the residential house was pretty close.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 22, 2010 - 04:25pm PT
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i was gonna say earlier that it looked an awful lot like boulder 13. that explains it. nice to know people are still going to it -- it's been a neglected classic ever since they built that house.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 04:49pm PT
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My friend Steve Belford, out of Poway, did Boulder #13 without the inversion back in the day.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 05:15pm PT
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You all may have seen this guy, Larry Groff (http://larrygroff.com);, up on the mountain painting. He does some awesome work! It almost makes me think of having him in on a guidebook someday!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 06:38pm PT
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Fabulous...
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gonamok
Trad climber
It takes a big man to cry
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Feb 22, 2010 - 07:15pm PT
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If ya wanna make a trail, make one that will last. If you just trim the ends of a bush it grows right back. A better but also temporary method is to break vegetation off at the base, but where there are roots there will be regrowth, so after you stomp a bush down to a stub, finish the job and yank the roots too.
The tools to remove big stubborn roots are everywhere...rocks. Find a burly stone axe you can barely lift over your head and bomb the root ball until you can grapple it out for good. Good workout and you get your caveman fix too. Some roots take every bit of grit and hate you can muster to pull out, but the satisfaction of ripping a root ball out of the ground with your bare hands, then casting your kill into the void with a mighty war whoop just cant be bought or found online. Plus it wont grow back.
If ya wanna make a trail, plus grow up big n strong and kill stuff too, do it right. Thats good s*** there, mister.
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scuffy b
climber
Where only the cracks are dry
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Feb 22, 2010 - 07:16pm PT
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But what's the 2nd climb in blr's post? Looks scrumptious!!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 07:22pm PT
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More Larry Groff...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 07:29pm PT
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I'm asking the same thing ScuffyB, where is that second photo of blr's on the previous page? That thing looks hideous!
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Feb 22, 2010 - 07:29pm PT
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B13 is definitely a neglected classic!
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Feb 22, 2010 - 07:32pm PT
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Scuffy B,
that's Maria's Offwidth. Pretty solid 5.10, I think? I'm really not sure on the rating. But it felt much harder than the Crucible and harder than the wide section on The Ogre, to me. Full disclosure: I couldn't complete it.
but, blr cruised it...
Its near the Big Horn rock...
-Nick
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 22, 2010 - 09:06pm PT
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no sh#t? i'm pretty sure mariah's crack used to be called 5.9. i'm not joking.
i only did it once. i was doing it ropeless and on-sight and i got spooked about 15' up. the landing slopes down and away so the 15' mark on that thing feels like 25'. epi was there and i locked in and asked him to run around and drop me a rope. while he was doing that i realized i was actually pretty secure, so i just kept going. one more move and i had my body stuffed in there and things were golden.
felt kinda silly but i was glad i did it.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 22, 2010 - 09:10pm PT
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Add Sarah Alexander to the list......my friend from Fresno.....
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gonamok
Trad climber
It takes a big man to cry
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Feb 22, 2010 - 09:13pm PT
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Boulder 13 is on private property for sure. Wouldnt a trail mean you want to go BACK to it tho?
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Feb 22, 2010 - 09:14pm PT
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bvb,
5.9?! holy crap, I suck...
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gonamok
Trad climber
It takes a big man to cry
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Feb 22, 2010 - 09:16pm PT
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Mariahs crack cant be harder than 5.9 because I soloed it too, and imma crack retard with a capital TARD.
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Feb 22, 2010 - 09:24pm PT
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Maybe we were on something else then...
I mean, I swear I'm OK at offwidths. Not great, but I can grovel and piss and moan my way up most any 5.9 offwidth. But I really had a hell of a time on this one...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 22, 2010 - 09:59pm PT
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if that thing was just downhill from stairway to heaven and alcoa, then you were on mariah's alright.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 10:41pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4.
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com**);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16 - 17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. Nathan Smith (http://www.pullphotography.com/**);
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org**);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30 - 31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com**);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35.
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com**);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe (SDCC)
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com**);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90 - 91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99.
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org**);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123 - 124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html**);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (SDCC)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fobby
143. Andre
144. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com**);
145. ? Zach
146. Tucker Tech
147. Jeff (SDCC)
148. Anastasia Frangos
149 - 150. Bill & Anastasia Sherman
151. Sarah Alexander
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 10:50pm PT
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I just checked my junk mail and just as I hit "Delete" to empty all the trash I caught something out of my periphery that said, "noreply@..." and I'm suspecting I just deleted someone's email to me from SuperTopo, darn it! Whoever that was, please leave another. Thanks and sorry.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 22, 2010 - 10:51pm PT
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I'm back from journeys and climbing. Questions, please email me. Looking forward to an incredibly great time. Peace and Joy, lynnie
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 11:07pm PT
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Check your email and junkmail Lynne for I just sent you an email.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 22, 2010 - 11:14pm PT
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illusiondweller, did check email ..... none. Will keep checking. I will be at the ACSD meeting manana, lord willing. If you go will see you there. They did post the Woodson Information on their web site. All is well, Peace and Joy from Lynne.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 11:29pm PT
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Hey Bob, similar story...
I thought I was finally ready to solo IHMT back in the day when I arrived at the base by myself and prepared to give it a go. I cruised the bottom then committed to stand on top of the flake when, while contemplating the dihedral above and realizing that the next bulge was a little more committing than I had hoped for, I got gripped and froze in my boots! I tried to stay calm but after scanning over both shoulders down at the road and seeing no one, I started to raise my voice and call out to anyone that might hear me! I then started to yell a couple of times but there was no one within earshot, "Crap!" I thought, "you have to be kidding me?!" I said out loud. This was the first time I prayed with fervent supplication for God to help me get out of a self perceived, critical situation! It was either up or down and I chose the latter. With eyes nearly closed I began to slowly reverse the few moves back down to where the fingers of one had were touching the flake I was standing on then backed off to a hanging position atop the flake. I pitched off from here to where I landed safely on the ground . After checking my drawers I packed up and went home.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2010 - 11:31pm PT
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Are you checking your junkmail for I and others have been leaving you mulitiple emails while you were gone? I just need to know if I can use your address on the handout I've had made up for everyone to get to your house Saturday evening. Please email me and confirm that I have the correct address.
Edit: Yes! The ACSD DID post it on their website along with the Access Fund! Will talk later to you about it.
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gonamok
Trad climber
It takes a big man to cry
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Feb 23, 2010 - 12:01am PT
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On the Woodson paintings...BRAVO! just beautiful
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 23, 2010 - 12:12am PT
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" the satisfaction of ripping a root ball out of the ground with your bare hands, then casting your kill into the void with a mighty war whoop just cant be bought or found online. Plus it wont grow back."
Hey Amok,
These days, that phrase is better applied to nose hairs. Rip that sukka out with a root ball, war whoop is gauranteed. Sometimes get a big old buger as a freebie. Booty!
BH
Edit: They always grow back.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2010 - 12:43am PT
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Okay, I've got slots #4, #35, and #99 vacant...first come first serve. Who wants 'em?
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gonamok
Trad climber
It takes a big man to cry
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Feb 23, 2010 - 01:43am PT
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These days, that phrase is better applied to nose hairs. Rip that sukka out with a root ball, war whoop is gauranteed. Sometimes get a big old buger as a freebie. Booty!
...same thing
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scuffy b
climber
Where only the cracks are dry
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Feb 23, 2010 - 01:06pm PT
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Well, if that picture is really Maria's, then it makes sense that I'd
think it looks great.
Grug and Tom Gibson walked me down to it on Shindig day. It was love at
first sight. Arm bar, gets too tight for the knee after a couple moves,
"o cool, gotta pull the knee out here," get it back in after a couple
moves, cruise a couple more, I turn and say to the boys, "I don't know if
this gets harder up above, but so far this thing is JUST GREAT."
Grug assures me there's not hidden crux higher up, and then I almost
stepped on a rattlesnake walking back up the trail. I didn't see it till
I was past it, though, so no scariness.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
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Great story Scuff!
Hey, just wanted to share that I just had a most wonderful conversation with Lynne Leichtfuss this morning and want to put out there that if anyone ever needs comfort or reassuring during a time of trial or just wants someone to burn their ear with, Lynne is there. Thanks Lynne for the willing, sacrificial giving of yourself for the benefit of another, with no thought of return! Glory to GOD!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4.
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com**);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. BeeHay aka Brad H.
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16 - 17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. Nathan Smith (http://www.pullphotography.com/**);
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org**);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30 - 31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com**);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35.
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com**);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe (SDCC)
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com**);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90 - 91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99.
100. ? Ron Kauk
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org**);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123 - 124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html**);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (SDCC)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fobby
143. Andre
144. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com**);
145. ? Zach
146. Tucker Tech
147. Jeff (SDCC)
148. Anastasia Frangos
149 - 150. Bill & Anastasia Sherman
151. Sarah Alexander
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 23, 2010 - 03:16pm PT
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The paintings are great. I've gone past the guy a couple of times while he was working on one. Pretty cool.
Gary, can I ask a favor of you? The attendee & information list is good, and certainly pertinent to this thread, but it's gotten quite long. Perhaps each time you post it anew, you could go back and delete one or two of the previous ones? The only one that really matters is the current one. It's kind of a long post to scroll past all the time and it tends to break up the flow of conversations. (it also yields pages of superfluous results if searching on someone's name to find post(s) in old threads.) Just a thought.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 23, 2010 - 03:46pm PT
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Hey, c'mon Henny, my scroll wheel finger is getting strong as hell. Also, it makes me look like I'm working.
BH
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 23, 2010 - 03:54pm PT
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good thought darrell. i'd also add that reposts might be held off unless a new name has been added to the list.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2010 - 04:16pm PT
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Darrell, Bob, see that bar over there to your right? -----------------------------------------------------------------------> That enables you to pull right through it in the blink of an eye!
No, really, thanks for the suggestions but are you sure you want me to change anything, for the date is just about upon us?
Longsuffering is an enduring temperament that expresses itself in patience with the shortcomings of others.
Can you put up with it a wee bit longer lads?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2010 - 04:30pm PT
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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Feb 23, 2010 - 04:44pm PT
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Awwwww, is da poor widdle chicken getting a cwamp in his widdle fingers? And don't give me that crap about talons of steel. Chickens barely got stubs.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2010 - 04:47pm PT
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I had to laugh, sorry Darrell.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 23, 2010 - 05:19pm PT
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Gary - Here's my point restated, then I'll drop the subject. This thread is going to be around long after the shindig. It contains a lot of pics as well as useful and informative history. Maybe after the shindig you could clean out the list posts, when they no longer have a purpose, to facilitate future searches and also make it read easier? There - my 2 cents worth. No need to respond, do as you see fit.
Don't ever laugh at bolton, it just makes him all wiggly. And things always go downhill once he gets excited.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 23, 2010 - 06:56pm PT
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Now would be the time to do the ST housekeeping. I think if the edit option disappears on the lower left of the post you lose the option to delete. I could be wrong.....If I am please let me know.
Bolton, Dude, Yo gonna be there ? lynnie
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 23, 2010 - 09:50pm PT
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Bolton, Dude, Yo gonna be there ?
Yikes! Can you imagine what it will be like if bolton shows up? Now that's a scary thought. (Lynnie - his name is on the list, and knowing him, he'll be there to terrorize us normal people.)
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gonamok
Trad climber
Ask me if I care
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Feb 23, 2010 - 09:57pm PT
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gee i dunno henny, youre tinkering with perfection here. Good god man, if we start deleting a buncha posts or tweaking the format the whole thing could go up in smoke. I know I wouldnt want that on MY conscience.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Ask me if I care
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Feb 23, 2010 - 10:04pm PT
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BeeHay's got a scroll wheel finger? Id hate to imagine where that thing has been.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 24, 2010 - 01:02am PT
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"BeeHay's got a scroll wheel finger? Id hate to imagine where that thing has been."
My Dear Mr. Amok,
That's on the left hand. You should know...
Your's Truly,
Mr. BH
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 24, 2010 - 01:06am PT
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Who is this Mr. Bolton of which you speak? I find him to be a quite amusing fellow.
BH
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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Feb 24, 2010 - 01:51am PT
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Lynnie...Hell, yeah I'll be there. I'm gonna put that little bitch Powell in a dress and make him dance for us. Just like the old days.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 24, 2010 - 02:27am PT
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gets a stack of dollars to tip the entertainers
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 02:43am PT
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Darrell,
You're right about the list going away after the shindig for there will be no need to keep posting it. Right now it serves those that are coming to the site for the first time to get more information. The earlier posts don't contain all the information that the current ones do so I keep updating and reposting it. And, Lynne is correct, after a certain amount of time the earlier posts are locked and I can't edit nor delete them.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 02:45am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 03:12am PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Ron Kauk
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com**);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16 - 17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Mr. Dick Cilley
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. Nathan Smith (http://www.pullphotography.com/**);
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org**);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30 - 31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com**);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com**);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe (SDCC)
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com**);
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com**);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Anxious Melancholy
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90 - 91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
94. BeeHay aka Brad H.
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. Jeff (SDCC)
100. ? Zach
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org**);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? Val
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123 - 124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html**);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (SDCC)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fabi
143. Andre
144. Tucker Tech
145. Anastasia Frangos Sherman
146. Bill Sherman
147. Sarah Alexander
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Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 24, 2010 - 09:28am PT
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I would like to request that BeeHay be moved to #94, one spot below me.
Thank you
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Feb 24, 2010 - 09:33am PT
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Hey sweetie,
You counted me twice!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 01:21pm PT
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Sherman and Frangos are the same?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 01:24pm PT
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Ron, you are officially on top of Brad, as you requested.
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Feb 24, 2010 - 01:43pm PT
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"Ron, you are officially on top of Brad, as you requested."
Can wait for the comments now
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 01:45pm PT
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You know what they say, "Be careful what you ask for!"
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 24, 2010 - 08:22pm PT
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He may not like it but hes used to it by now, heh
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Feb 24, 2010 - 08:47pm PT
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Their is sumpthin like 500 routes on woodson thus far 140+ climbers on the list. get their early for the good climbs.
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Feb 24, 2010 - 09:27pm PT
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Considering most will be drinking beer and talking smack, I doubt there will be that much climbing going on.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 24, 2010 - 09:29pm PT
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i'm gonna tick like four 5.9's and then settle in for some semi-pro heckling.
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Feb 24, 2010 - 09:33pm PT
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Yup,
Changed it when I got married to Sherman but I am finding it hard to shake off Frangos. Especially since I pulled that one off for 36 years. Now may I also be listed on top of Bill?
:)AFS
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 24, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
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Any guesses on what the most popular/crowded problems will be?
I'm thinking Undertow will be right up there.
Right.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 10:38pm PT
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I'm sure the "kids" will be tearing it up, up there compared to you old farts (notice I didn't include me, lol)!
Edit: I plan on actually climbing and ignoring my cell phone while I'm up there. Can't let this "organizer" title get in my way, sheesh! Time to get thrashed on some Woodson cracks, wohooooooo!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 24, 2010 - 10:42pm PT
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well, when the kids are hucking multiple solo laps on hear my train wearing converse all-stars, we will concede that they have matched the standard we set 30+ years ago.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 10:47pm PT
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Hey Bob...you've been put on a list to be photographed that weekend...formally with a photo booth and backdrop! Bet you didn't know that, you're famous dude!
Edit: amongst many others...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 10:49pm PT
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You better bring your best duds or dress, whichever you prefer.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 24, 2010 - 10:51pm PT
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leb says i'm a chossy has-been never-was.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 24, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
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i only did it once. i was doing it ropeless and on-sight and i got spooked about 15' up. the landing slopes down and away so the 15' mark on that thing feels like 25'. epi was there and i locked in and asked him to run around and drop me a rope. while he was doing that i realized i was actually pretty secure, so i just kept going. one more move and i had my body stuffed in there and things were golden.
I don't know dude...
Something about that story just smacks of being so suspicious that I had to call Epi and check the facts. He doesn't remember any such event, and says that the next time you drop his name to give a story credibility you should give him prior warning so he knows about it. Man, were my ears burning after talking to the home boy last night. You didn't fabricate that story to impress us with your swOle prowess by any chance, ... did you?
Oh, by the way, I need to know ahead of time what the four problems you plan on doing are.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 10:58pm PT
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Here's the beginning of a list that Nathan Smith (http://www.pullphotography.com); emailed me with to photograph over the weekend:
Rick Piggot
Anastasia Frangos
Bob D'Antonio
Bob Van Belle
Chris Lindner
Christian Griffith
Dave Evans
Greg Epperson
Jeff Leads
Jim Bridwell
Kevin Worrall
Mike Paul
Pam aka Shanti
Randy Leavitt
Randy Vogel
Ron Kauk
Todd Gordon
Tucker Tech
Darrell Hensel
If you see your name on the list could you please email me your cell number for Nathan is requesting help in locating you guys up on the hill so he can pull you aside to get a shot of you.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 24, 2010 - 11:00pm PT
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actually it's a true story. but it happened pretty fast twenty-five years ago and was sort of a non-event, so it dosen't surprise me that he dosen't remember.
four problems...sh#t, does woodson even have four 5.9 problems? entry level is 5.11c. oh, if only this thing was at roubidoux.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 11:05pm PT
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Also, this is for anyone...
What is the best guide/guides/drawings that cover Woodson the best? Nathan is trying to get the best overview of the mountain prior to the event. Can anyone take care of that for me? Email me and I'll give you his email so you can help him out.
Edit: Or go to his site and email him with the info and let me know it's been taken care of. Thanks.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 11:16pm PT
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I've noticed a trend on memory loss throughout this thread. I wonder what the mechanism of injury could be?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 24, 2010 - 11:18pm PT
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I've noticed a trend on memory loss throughout this thread. I wonder what the mechanism of injury could be?
i think it has less to do with memory loss and more to do with legacy mode.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 24, 2010 - 11:18pm PT
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Of course it's a true story and there wasn't memory loss by anybody. That wasn't really the point, but then you know that.
oh, if only this thing was at roubidoux. If this thing was at Rubidoux the only option you'd have would be to settle in for some semi-pro heckling.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2010 - 11:24pm PT
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Bob, could you help Nathan out with guide info?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 24, 2010 - 11:27pm PT
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there have been gazillions of guides to woodson of one kind or another, and they're all pretty much worthless for navigating the hill. the most functional one was mike's. i don't think i have a copy of it.
ron, you got anything that'll help?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 24, 2010 - 11:29pm PT
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If this thing was at Rubidoux the only option you'd have would be to settle in for some semi-pro heckling.
if i did pink bug four times that'd count, right?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 24, 2010 - 11:36pm PT
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You sorta got me there without even trying, I think. If you did Pink Bug four times in a row it probably would equal Slap You Silly, which unfortunately is at Woodson. Pink Bug on steroids.
Think about this though -
If it was at Rubidoux there would be a physically beat down in addition to the smack beat down by KP.
But, luckily it's at Woodson instead.
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blr
climber
socal
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Feb 24, 2010 - 11:39pm PT
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I heard Mariah's Crack was 5.9... only need to choose three more problems now, bvb.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 24, 2010 - 11:41pm PT
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Hey... No backup from the peanut gallery. Let him fend for himself.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 25, 2010 - 12:07am PT
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Rick Piggot
Anastasia Frangos
Bob D'Antonio
Bob Van Belle
Chris Lindner
Christian Griffith
Dave Evans
Greg Epperson
Jeff Leads
Jim Bridwell
Kevin Worrall
"Mike Paul" (out...)<-<-
Pam aka Shanti
Randy Leavitt
Randy Vogel
Ron Kauk
Todd Gordon
Tucker Tech
Darrell Hensel
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2010 - 12:13am PT
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What is Dave Evans username on here?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2010 - 12:29am PT
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Got it Mike. Still shaking my head that you won't be there.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 25, 2010 - 12:49am PT
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These comments have been archived by the author.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2010 - 01:19am PT
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Whoa Brad, easy simba! Clean it up my friend...please?
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 25, 2010 - 01:41am PT
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I DID clean it up. Mr. Amok is easily offended, and BVB is an exceptionally fragile individual. Please speak softly when you meet them...
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 25, 2010 - 02:58am PT
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I just saw that photog list Gary and just wanted to make sure...You know I'll be there in spirit!!
All the giants will be there!
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 25, 2010 - 03:04am PT
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If ya got a minit Ill tell ya all a story.
We used to park on Mt Woodson road as close to the gate as possible then walk up from there. Sometimes the gate would be open, but even when locked it was no barrier, you could even drive a truck around one gatepost if you really wanted to. Then one day there was new chain link fencing and a second gate closer to the road with a sign that said something like "no vehicles" but you could still walk thru, and everybody did.
A little while after the new gate went up, one of the homeowners came out when I was leaving one day and asked me (with attitude)not to park there anymore. When I said its a public road he told me no, its private and owned jointly by all the property owners, and they are tired of the traffic, trash and noise from climbers using their road. Furthermore, they had filed a petition with the county to close the woodson road to public access, and the county had responded with the new gate and fencing.
I told him I was sure we could get climbers to stop parking there and going thru the gate if we get the word out, and told him id do my best to spread the word. We parted on pretty good terms, and I called everyone I knew when i got home (it was pre internet era). I also called climbing magazine and talked to the person (alison)who covered access issues. She told me to keep getting the word out, and she would talk to the county and the homeowner whose number i gave her.
Within a month nobody was parking on the road or going thru the gate, the homeowners were happy and since the county couldnt figure out who actually owned the road or access rights, the whole thing kinda went away. That is until the CDF realized that the public was nw accessing the road up woodson by crossing their land. To call the CDF management buffoons is being nice. Neither me nor anybody i talked to at the time had ever seen one iota of activity at the CDF compound, and it looked like it had been vacant for years, but when the access issue came up there was suddenly frenetic activity there every day. They obviously felt the need to back up their claim that the land was far too important and busy for the public to be tramping around on. The fact that "their" land IS public land seemed lost on the CDF brain trust.
After a month or so of running around the property like keystone cops, the CDF put up a barbed fence wire around the perimeter and hung signs on it saying no public access. When I heard about the fence going up, i went straight up to the CDF place and jumped their fence, hoping to get stopped so i could make a scene, but I accessed the road and returned to my car without incident. Over the following week I tried to raise a mob to go thru the fences with me as a protest, but buncha pussies, nobody signed on.
A week to the day after the barbed wire went up, I went over the fences and accessed the road again. Only this time I decided to go right thru the middle of the buildings on the way out to see what would happen, and lo and behold, the place was once again vacant. CDF had pulled out to do god's work elswhere i guess. So the next day I went back with bolt cutters and cut out 2 sections of fence to access the road. The first cut was in a bad spot, and somebody cut a better one over the creek, but the gate i cut to access the road is the one we still use today.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2010 - 03:22am PT
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I thought I was recalling a story I had read in some mag around that time. I guess not.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 25, 2010 - 03:31am PT
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B-Hey always sez nice things. BITD when I hiked seasons end (in debonaire fashion) he told me if I wasnt so fat i might make a decent climber (or something like that). The man has a heart of gold.
He communicates with grunts and vulgar comments gary, that actually WAS clean. I liked it better back when climbers were all anti social louts...a world where climbers gotta watch what they say has gone downhill if ya ask me.
Funny you should ask bob, i just tossed out the remaining few copies of topos that were gathering dust here and only kept one for the amick archives. With todays gps and digital imagery, i figured every known problem on the hill would be mapped by longitude and latitude by now. My maps were only good if you already know the hill anyway.
And who says theres 500 routes at woodson?? Show me the list
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 25, 2010 - 10:20am PT
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As long as we have all the San Diego climbers on this thread;..maybe someone could tell me about this crag, and the climbs here......Hwy 76 just East of the freeway on the N. side of the road, heading off towards Pala and Pauma Valley.....(N. County...Fallbrook area)...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 25, 2010 - 10:37am PT
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todd, that looks like a crag in pala that jim thoen developed back when he was living in vista. i climbed there with him once. there's a good 5.10 thin crack you can't see in the photo -- it's on the right-facing wall that you can't see, on the left side of the big gully in the middle of the crag.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Feb 25, 2010 - 10:50am PT
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Bob;...there were very very old rusty 1/4 " bolts (most without hangers) on the cool slabby routes...and then there were some new shiny modern bolts on the steep harder headwalls......I wanted to go up there for "new routes"..but no such chance...the S.D. boys (and girls)already beat me to the punch.....years ago......
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2010 - 01:14pm PT
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Speaking of new rock, I met up with Randy Leavitt, Shannon Scott and Gary Anderson and they were showing me, on Shannon's laptop, some incredible looking, 50-100' and larger, cliffs near El Cajon Mountain that they're developing. Wow, it looks huge over there!
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 25, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
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There is a really good roof crack out by pala. I think you go up couser canyon road and it's on the east side. You have to climb a slab route to get to the roof. We took Rick Piggot up there and he onsight lead the roof. If I remember it was hands to thin hands and 25 ft long. I think he rated it 5.12something. If your driving south on I-15 and know where to look, you can see the roof in the east as your driving up the hill from the pala turnoff.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2010 - 01:35pm PT
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Ahhhh, that's the one everyone talked about off of I-15!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2010 - 01:56pm PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2010 - 02:19pm PT
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Just curious, did Piggot ever do Paisano Overhang?
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 25, 2010 - 02:25pm PT
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There are still quite a bunch of smaller crags all around the county. All the waterfalls out by the warblers crags in the east county are going off right now. We mountain bike out there often and other places in the fire areas still have virgin rock to be explored. I'm the only climber in our group so none of the others even look for rock.
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Anxious Melancholy
Mountain climber
Between the Depths of Despair & Heights of Folly
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Feb 25, 2010 - 02:28pm PT
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all the sd climbers on the thread? i think not..........
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 25, 2010 - 02:28pm PT
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Rick did it. We went up there in the late 80's. It took him two trys. First try he got tangled in the rope climbing around the friends and second try he fired it. Lucky for me he rapped off and cleaned it so I didn't have to flail on it. My project was that thin crack below it called the pirate.
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dirt claud
Sport climber
san diego,ca
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Feb 25, 2010 - 03:18pm PT
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Im always seeing awesome stuff to climb around San Diego. Hwy 78 between Ramona and Escondido looks like it has some good high ball bouldering potential. There is also a big wall that looks like it's about 200' high or so that is in between a valley near the San Pasqual Academy, but looks like part of it is on private land.
If there is anyone on ST that lives in San Diego and would be interested in exploring some new climbing areas let me know.
I've been wanting to check out some of the rocks on Mt Everest across fom Mt Woodson.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 25, 2010 - 04:13pm PT
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You can see that cliff band while driving highland valley road now that the fires have cleared the tree line. I think it's in Bandy Canyon. Half way up the 78 grade there is a small hiking turn out that has a trail that takes you up the north side of the valley. Lots of bouldering potential on that trail. I don't know if the mattress guys can make the trek.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 25, 2010 - 10:55pm PT
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problem #2 on my 5.9 ticklist:
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 25, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
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oh yeah, this one too: woodson 5.9's: so hot right now!
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Feb 25, 2010 - 11:39pm PT
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I have done some climbing Off 78 down the clevinger canyon trail.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:41am PT
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Donny -
Did Verdugo do two routes on the Cool Jerk face? So there's three routes there? One is "cool jerk right"? (where exactly is that?) I remember High On the Hog being the right most line. Please clarify for me.
Do you remember what you guys rated Bad Boys From Detroit?
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:49am PT
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Mike did High On The Hog, 5.12a. Randy Leavitt did Cool Jerk 5.12c. I don't know who put up any other route on that face.
Bad Boys from Detroit is rated 5.12a or 11.c if your trying it. haha
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:52am PT
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I TR'd one of the routes on that face maybe last year? I was out there with Dan H (I can't remember how to spell his last name). He said that there was a knob that was pretty essential that was chronically breaking off and being glued back on. When I was there, it was missing.... At least whatever of the routes I was trying looked quite hard to say the least.
Josh
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:57am PT
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Josh, was that on the cool jerk face? The route farthest right is high on the hog. I could only remember two routes on that face Donny, but I saw three somewhere like on rc.com.
Edit: I don't remember much about high on the hog, except that it was quite good, and angled up and right - at least initially - off the end of the ledge. Don't remember if it had a knob or not.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 26, 2010 - 02:03am PT
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Henny, now that I think about it, there might be 3 routes on that face. Something about a route starting on the left? Cool Jerk has the knob that was breaking off. The Dan H is probably Dan Haughelstine. He is the Hog that High on the Hog is named after.
Edit: I just checked at rc.com The route cool jerk right is actually High on the Hog. So as far as I know there are only 2 routes on that wall. High on the Hog being the 5 star classic non glued, chipped lead. It's another route we put up before hanging on the rope was accepted at woodson.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 26, 2010 - 02:22am PT
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12a for Bad Boys is reasonable, and I think accurate. I saw it as 11d somewhere which seemed like a little bit of a sandbag. That thing is kinda sharp with a funk crux. Eliot and I went by there today.
If it was 11c that would make it an "entry" level problem per bvb. Yeah, right.
Laker Girls looks hard.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 02:25am PT
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I just edited the "Cool Jerk Right" to "High on the Hog" on rc.com. Confirming Mike Verdugo did the FA or Dan Hauglestine?
Dang Darrell, you're back again? Why don't you guys give me call if you're going out tomorrow! I'll leave my number in your email.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 26, 2010 - 02:26am PT
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Yeah, I can only see two lines of bolts on that face. Wasn't sure where the third route was. High On the Hog is a classic for sure. I didn't know Dan was part of the name. Cool.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 26, 2010 - 02:29am PT
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Wasn't there already a High On the Hog on rc.com, in addition to the Cool Jerk Right? If so, CJR should have been removed, since they're the same.
Verdugo.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 02:34am PT
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Aww, heck, now there's two. Now I have to write a note to have it removed. I'll take care of it. Bad scene survey on my part.
Edit: taken care of.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 26, 2010 - 02:52am PT
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i think the 3rd line is called "Hairspray" 12c(?) ask leavitt, its his thing
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 26, 2010 - 02:53am PT
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Hey are there gonna be pony rides at this thing?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 26, 2010 - 02:56am PT
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Ron, do you know where it goes, and if it's bolted? I can still only see two lines of bolts. Of course, I am old, but then again I'm farsighted so I should be good to go when it comes to seeing bolts - hopefully.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 02:56am PT
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That's it! That's what you remind me of Ron, a scary "carnie" that operates one of those pony rides! I'll get one if you volunteer to run it!
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 26, 2010 - 03:25am PT
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Ron is correct on the other route. Hair spray is the one I couldn't remember. Mike verdugo edged me out on the fa of High on the Hog. That's OK as I snaked him and Haughelstine on Slap You Silly 13.a?(arguably the hardest bald arete in the southland). hahaha
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 05:39am PT
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Don, speaking of a "bald arete" this has been on rc.com since '06:
Harbringer - 5.13d - "Climb the left side of the fat arete that is to the left of Eric's Crack." (C22 aka Dan Beal)
I first met Dan Beal (I think he was about 16-17 years old at the time) on a trip back out to San Diego in '06 from New Jersey for a friend of mine's memorial service. It was more of a uneventful trip up the mountain for I was terribly out of shape, coming off a recent fractured ankle.
Nonetheless, we wandered up the mountain as I talked about b.i.t.d. and he shared with me some recent accomplishments that he and a friend (can't recall what his friends name was) had made up on the hill, including this Harbringer which this "friend" succeeded on! I remember Dan asking, "Did you know that 5.14 has made it up on Woodson?" It was surprising to hear but then again I'd been away so long and that level of climbing was more prevalent at that time, so it wasn't out of the realm of believability.
I recall going to the back of the boulder where Erik's Crack is and being shown this arete by Dan and wondering, "Why would anyone even consider climbing this section of rock?" For, it definitely wasn't the most aesthetic looking line, not to mention that it looked featureless!
That's the story anyhow. Whether it's that hard or not I'll never know!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 26, 2010 - 10:35am PT
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the two routes that leavitt did were called "cool jerk" and "hairdo". they both had chronic problems with holds breaking. i think cool jerk was the problem that went up a little left-facing ramp, then finished straight up on knobs, but i may have that wrong. i never did either one of those routes. they created quite the brouhaha when they went in, i'll tell you what!
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Feb 26, 2010 - 11:40am PT
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BVB,you should get on High on the Hog. It starts on the same ramp as Cool Jerk but goes up and right after the 2nd bolt of Cool Jerk. It's a good 12.a.
Gary, My sh#t talking about slap you silly being 5.13 and the hardest bald arete is sh#t talking. It is meant for Henny because I had to endure about 40 trys belaying him on the thing a couple weeks ago. hahaha
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dickcilley
Social climber
Wisteria Ln.
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Feb 26, 2010 - 02:40pm PT
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Think I'm skipping the shindig.As always ,I'm available for more intimate soirees. Pass by the pit.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 26, 2010 - 03:48pm PT
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Hey Mr Amok,
If you bring some real beer instead of that sh*t you drink, you can ride my pony.
Aw f#%k, there goes my dirty mouth again! You're gonna get me banished fer sure.
BH
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Feb 26, 2010 - 04:37pm PT
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40 trys - All you needed to do was belay a little better and I coulda sent it first try. A little high C here and there...done. I used to think I liked that thing.
Like Donny says, High on the Hog is well worth doing. I'll vouch for that. Just don't listen to his instructions on how to down climb from the top of it.
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Feb 26, 2010 - 10:54pm PT
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So Harbringer is the left arete and Hellraiser is the face to the right of Eric's crack? What about the other side of that crack (just up from Fly by Night) stating way back in the horizontal squeeze chimney? Where are the .14's?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 26, 2010 - 11:58pm PT
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dickcilley, Dude.... if you want to do the Woodson Scene Todd G. and others from the Tree are coming out Friday and Saturday. Bet you can hitch a ride....they are camping here at the Leichtfuss Casa and yo also are welcome. Peace, lynnie
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 02:21am PT
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The "5.14" was in reference to Harbringer at 13d.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 03:04am PT
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Although a bad photo from a .pdf document I found this classic on a Metolius website:
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 03:20am PT
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...and another:
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 03:32am PT
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henny, i dont know dude - that stuff is outta my realm
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 03:34am PT
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b.i.t.d...
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 03:36am PT
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I hear ya Dick, catch you another time
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 27, 2010 - 04:12am PT
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Yeah cool Gary! Brooke from Metolius just sent me the 25 year anniv. catalog that sports these shots...Too bad my "Six Pack" turned into a "Pony Keg"...
Edit: Sorry Brooke...We were only at that time following in the footsteps of our master and friend, JB.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 04:13am PT
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Mr. Cilley,
No problem, you're not attending the "soiree" so we'll see you at the daytime venues then?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 04:14am PT
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Pretty hardcore shape back then huh Mike?
Edit: Did your brother climb too?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Feb 27, 2010 - 04:21am PT
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Sheesh...I got to get back to the gym...BVB however always had the great body set-up, really thin, and, tall! Best be watchin' out for his sandbaggin' to be sure! Love ya Bubs!!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 04:23am PT
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Hey Mike, did you notice this one too?
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 04:54am PT
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Disclaimer: These suck, but many people have asked for copies, so there ya go.
These maps are taken directly from Michael Pauls woodson Guide, but i redrew them with far less skill and detail. Thanks Mike for allowing me to freely make use of your guide info and format for these notes.
Please keep in mind that these were made as my own notes and should be taken with a grain of salt. It is not a guide.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 04:55am PT
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 04:55am PT
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 04:56am PT
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 04:56am PT
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 04:57am PT
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 04:57am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 02:33pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Ron Kauk
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com**);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16 - 17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18.
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. Nathan Smith (http://www.pullphotography.com/**);
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org**);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30 - 31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com**);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com**);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Mooser
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe (SDCC)
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com**);
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com**);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Tucker Tech
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90 - 91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gary Anderson
94. BeeHay aka Brad H.
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. Jeff (SDCC)
100. ? Zach
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org**);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? "My Pal Val"
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123 - 124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html**);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (SDCC)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fabi
143. Andre
144. Anastasia Frangos Sherman
145. Bill Sherman
146. Sarah Alexander
147. Nightclub Dwight
148. Brenda Puff
149. I'm Rick James...
150.
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Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 02:34pm PT
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Mr. Dick Cilley has been removed from space #18, anybody want it? Gary Anderson has been added.
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Mimi
climber
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Feb 27, 2010 - 03:19pm PT
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Too bad. I was looking forward to seeing Dick again. Even though he's a crowdpleaser, he always showed disdain for the masses. LOL!
Thanks for posting up the sketches, Ron! We'll be able to get going Thursday afternoon with these handy visual aids.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 06:47pm PT
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I think people were joking about their place on the list having any significance...
I know I was
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont get me started
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Feb 27, 2010 - 06:49pm PT
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Great Mimi! just dont plan on being able to find any of it and you wont be disapponited
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Feb 27, 2010 - 09:01pm PT
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Anyone know about the seam/thin crack on the face left of Rockwork Orange or the the seam on the boulder next to/with your back to Digit's delight? Rain and cold all day but always good exploring and busting out trails. Tomorrow should be real good.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 27, 2010 - 09:24pm PT
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i tried the seam by digits delight a bunch. figured it would never go without some pin scars. after a few years of attempts i gave up and secretly wished somebody would use it for nailing practice...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 27, 2010 - 09:28pm PT
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man does this ever bring back some memories! 84/85/86/87 were some real halcyon days up there. everybody was climbing hard and we had a riotous posse of hardcore regulars. so much fun, so many great days. can you ever really go back home again?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 10:44pm PT
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Johnny,
I was at Vertical Hold gym today posting a shindig flyer when I ran into young Dan Beal (20). I asked him to rehash the info on Harbringer that he told me back in '06, when he was (17)years old. Dan told me he was there when Chris Lindner did it up to the point where Eric's Crack looms above where Chris pulled up, onto the arete and finished above into the crack. Later Dan heard rumor that David Graham visited at a later time and finished the arete in it's entirety giving it the .14 rating.
Dan then changed the subject and focused on Rain Dance down on the Entrance Boulders. I informed him about the flake that broke off during one of you guys' attempts and he was surprised to say the least saying, "What flake did they break off!". He then said, "The guys (you guys) getting to that point doesn't surprise me for the meat of the problem is the last two moves above!" as he finished by describing a sharp, miniscule nipple for the pad of one finger then an
ape-index span with the other to the top. He said it's basically a "one finger mantle!"
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 27, 2010 - 11:45pm PT
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"7:30 AM"...
hahahahahahahahaha!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2010 - 11:49pm PT
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Don't know about you Brad, but I'll be dragging my butt up there to set up at the Practice Boulders...well, at least my helpers will be posting up there! I might head back down to my car to get more sleep!
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 27, 2010 - 11:49pm PT
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"Somebody" on another thread said, "I might head down to that ball cupping Shindig thing."
I got a gud laff outta that!
I got inspired to unLOCK the shop, and finish up some long neglected resoling projects.
BH
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 28, 2010 - 12:55am PT
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there's definately gonna be a bunch of clowns, and we'll probably be making animal noises!
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 28, 2010 - 01:16am PT
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HOLY FU*KING SH&T, Ron! I'm crying so hard, I can't even finish yer Goddamn post!
Don't forget your towel for nap time...
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 28, 2010 - 01:21am PT
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I'm gonna make baloon balls, if you cup them, you may climb past curfew.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2010 - 01:30am PT
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Boy, I'm sure glad I came up with the idea for this shindig...and if all this wasn't anticipated....gotta feed the animals with some fodder every once in a while! Chew away you poor souls!
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Feb 28, 2010 - 01:38am PT
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Ron can eat three Happy Meals in six minutes. I've seen it with my own eyes.
BH
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2010 - 01:50am PT
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No towels needed for your nap Brad...Depends will be more appropriate. Ron already said he'd help in bringing down the trash from the mountain so I'm sure he'll help you out too.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2010 - 10:41am PT
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Far from rigid just staying organized and having fun. Glory to God!
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gonamok
Trad climber
get that crap outta here
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Feb 28, 2010 - 02:32pm PT
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All silliness aside, if you actually knew me gary youd know my voice. Not that it makes a difference, but Quiet, squeaky etc. I aint, lol.
Talk is cheap. I can and will back up everything I say, and am always happy to field any challenge on any level.
peace young man, Im just not real keen on being told what to do
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2010 - 03:43pm PT
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I'm tired...wake me up when its over.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 28, 2010 - 05:47pm PT
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Shocking and most unusual....a climber not relishing someone telling them what to do ! :D lynnie
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 28, 2010 - 06:05pm PT
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ron amick. the original hun, a take-no-prisoners tribe of one. a motherfookin' american legend!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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Erik (plumber) on L. Longs Crack today...
We made progress but had our pants handed to us on R. Longs Crack!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2010 - 01:06am PT
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#48 Tom "mooser" Patterson drops off the list but his brother Keith may be able to make it in his place!
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gonamok
Trad climber
get that crap outta here
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One final word, then I will leave this thread alone.
One can tell a lot about a persons character by the way they respond to criticism. In this case it wasnt really even criticism, I was poking fun at something I found totally silly. I made no personal comments or snide remarks about Gary, but his response was to attack me personally, by implying that I drink and drive, and further comments that he "cant take me seriously".
nice
i will say this
The only way one gets respect in this world is to give respect
Please remove my name from the list
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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word on the street is the long boarders are going to take over the whole hill.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Friggin' no Dick Cilley? C'mon Dick! It's the main reason I'm driving down there. You gotta go. I'll even make sure Tom Gibson's there. (ps Ron, I hope you still show. Was definitely also looking forward to seeing you again).
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Someone needs to show the youngsters how to belay. You could shoot an arrow of that rope it's so tight. Any tension on a TR is assistance and invalidates a free ascent. Is this where Pullharder.org gets its name from?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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1' loop of slack drooping down fom the waist tie-in is the minimum standard. no tunin' the cello, kids!
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Anxious Melancholy
Mountain climber
Between the Depths of Despair & Heights of Folly
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please remove me from you list of attendees.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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can you ever really go back home again?
That's a trick philosophical question, right?
My answer is both yes, and no.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2010 - 04:33pm PT
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Hey All!
The date is getting closer and as a former Paramedic/Navy Corpsman I thought I'd share some friendly words of concern:
Everyone be careful up there on the mountain over that weekend! I'd also like to encourage those that plan to party to wait till after each day of climbing to do so. As responsible climbers, we, as a community, definitely wouldn't score any style points if EMS has to respond up the mountain for somebody hurt AND under the influence of something intoxicating, whatever that may be!
Thanks Everyone!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
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Ron Amick and Anxiously Melancholy are removed per request.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2010 - 04:46pm PT
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Yes, the "youngster" in those pictures is still getting his feet wet in climbing, although, as most of you know, any tension on that climb would work against you and actually pull you off the climb. So, if anything, Erik is climbing against resistance as opposed to with assistance!
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dickcilley
Social climber
Wisteria Ln.
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Grug , You driving down from Co.?Thats easy .Swing by JT. and pick me up. Sure would like to see Tom.I thought it was next weekend and now I see its not.If we don't link up ,we'll get together and climb Mt Evaans in the Summer
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Dick. I could do that. I've got Tom mostly talked into going.
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dickcilley
Social climber
Wisteria Ln.
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Sounds good Greg .We'll work it out. I' ll be here.Lots of new wide here too.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Everyone be careful up there on the mountain over that weekend! I'd also like to encourage those that plan to party to wait till after each day of climbing to do so. As responsible climbers, we, as a community, definitely wouldn't score any style points if EMS has to respond up the mountain for somebody hurt AND under the influence of something intoxicating, whatever that may be!
at the last shindig i started drinking scotch at ten a.m. and crushed like one sw0le motherf*#k all day. i've soloed all the woodson highballs on various party favors of all makes and models, including booze, pot, acid, reefer, coke, mda, and on and on. it was a hell of a lot of fun.
of course, i'll be sober as priest this time around.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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"sober as a priest", oh man, THAT could be trouble. Last time I offered to buy a priest a drink, he order a double Chevas and I use to regularly pound beers with priest. Would loosen me up for confession! Oh lordy, I'm goin straight to hell...........again. I think on an earlier post(way early)I told Bolton we were gonna have a drink or two. Come to think of it, I can't recall at ANY of our shindigs anyone getting outa control with the "medicinals". Let's have fun AND be safe.
Peace
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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"My family will be on Hwy 67 that night, Bob, Brad, Ron, how about getting a taxi guys?" I'm paraphrasing, post was deleted, but clearly it was noted by others besides me.
I'd like to make it clear that in 38 years behind the wheel, I've never been accused of DUI. Never even been pulled over and invited to walk the line.
Further, I never intended to celebrate the day by killing anybody's family.
Last I knew, one of the potential killers named above doesn't even drink.
Brad Huys
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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yep brad, i'm on the wagon. for god. uh, i mean GOOD.
besides, a big huff old binger of crack right before i cranks makes me fell sw0le!! with god's power. i can feel his pleasure inside me!
oh wait...mebbe that was that damn priest....
DOHT!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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hah!
if BVB's humor hasn't changed with the sober, then I doubt his ability has waivered either.
So now that there are so many monkeys going, where the f*#k can I climb without the f*#king crowds!!?!??!
oh, and nothing harder than 5.4. thx
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Reign 1 posted: "You can see that cliff band while driving highland valley road now that the fires have cleared the tree line. I think it's in Bandy Canyon. Half way up the 78 grade there is a small hiking turn out that has a trail that takes you up the north side of the valley. Lots of bouldering potential on that trail. I don't know if the mattress guys can make the trek. "
The private land is closed to climbing. Climbers have been blamed for driving nesting eagles away from that area. (altho they may have been disturbed by other causes as well.)
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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"So now that there are so many monkeys going, where the f*#k can I climb without the f*#king crowds!!?!??!
oh, and nothing harder than 5.4. thx"
Keep an eye out for me,
I don't like crowds either, and 5.4 sounds about right,
James
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2010 - 11:53pm PT
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I was awakened by radio chatter one early morning about 0130 in Washington County Oregon, just outside of Portland, to our Unit number being called by Dispatch. We responded with our lights on and began to roll silently into the dark night to another "Unresponsive" call at a private residence. The scene was secure as we rolled on in towards the address given.
We arrived with our gear atop our gurney, to an open screen door, with the local police already on scene. I walked inside to find a elderly woman, dressed in her night clothes, lying on her side with one arm outstretched above her head on the carpeted living room floor. It was assumed by her husband of sixty years that she had probably been sitting in her favorite rocking chair in front of the television where she slept most nights prior to him finding her there after waking to use the restroom. I remember looking over at this strapping, eighty something year old gentleman who stood probably six foot three inches tall, wearing pants, a t-shirt and suspenders, as he stood in the hallway, his seventeen year old grandson standing at his side while they both stared blankly at their loved one.
I was the "Paramedic in Charge" that morning and it was my duty to delegate and maintain scene control throughout the call. I heard the front door open and turned to see my Paramedic Physician Advisor, the doctor who gave us the ability to work as freely as we did in that county, walk in the and acknowledge me. Dr. Toovy was new to Washington County. Rumor had it that he was very interactive with his Paramedics and this was no exception. We continued "working" this lady who, as we found out, had a downtime of up to two hours, based on the time she may have been seen awake last. This was not a good sign but without signs of obvious death we were obligated to give her the benefit of the doubt and continued with our efforts. After administering the indicated rounds of medications and resuscitation it was obvious that there was nothing further that we could do for the patient. This is probably the hardest time of all calls no matter how seasoned a Paramedic you are especially when family is present and witnessing the whole process unfold.
It was then that I had to turn and walk down the short hallway, towards the Grandfather and grandson, to lock my eyes with their scared, empty, lost, tearful eyes and first explain to them what we found and what we attempted to do; and then to tell the soul breaking news that there was nothing else we could do for her and to say that I was sorry.
What happened next is something I didn't expect...
That strapping, six foot three inch tall of a man dropped to his knees in that hallway next to his grandson, his face in both hands and began to weep like I've never seen a grown man weep before in my life. The whole of his body shook, the sound of a child coming from those enclosed hands while the grandson, with his head hung low and crying too, kept his arm around his Grandfather's shoulders in an attempt to console him. I tried my best to hide my tears but had to turn and walk away and out the front door myself.
I don't know why I shared this story amidst the subject at hand but every now and then it surfaces and I have to talk about it. I'm not looking for any sympathy but just sharing something real that happens out there in the world that most don't ever get to see.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2010 - 12:09am PT
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I think the best plan would be to seek out the crowds, stay in the rear and observe those in the limelight, then after, giving words of instruction and encouragement to those that may not know. Most of the time it is then that you will be asked if you've ever done the problem and be given an opportunity to share your craft and be pleasantly praised.
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gonamok
Trad climber
get that crap outta here
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2010 - 02:12am PT
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Okay, I'm confused...going up or down...wait, that's IHMT!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2010 - 02:28am PT
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Wow, spectacular or what?!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2010 - 02:37am PT
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Just 17 days from Fun :D
For those of you that want to cook Friday or Sat. nite, I have two propane bbq's.....a small to medium and also a large one you are welcome to use. Lookin' Forward, lynnie
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Wow, Brenda Puff AND I'm Rick James, Bitch. This could turn out to be a seminal event.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Oh yeah, my coffee maker sucks...can I say that ? Well, it does. So if you want great coffee bring your own gear. jess sayin' :D
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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I was awakened by radio chatter one early morning about 0130 in Washington County Oregon, just outside of Portland, to our Unit number being called by Dispatch. We responded with our lights on and began to roll silently into the dark night to another "Unresponsive" call at a private residence. The scene was secure as we rolled on in towards the address given.
We arrived with our gear atop our gurney, to an open screen door, with the local police already on scene. I walked inside to find a elderly woman, dressed in her night clothes, lying on her side with one arm outstretched above her head on the carpeted living room floor. It was assumed by her husband of sixty years that she had probably been sitting in her favorite rocking chair in front of the television where she slept most nights prior to him finding her there after waking to use the restroom. I remember looking over at this strapping, eighty something year old gentleman who stood probably six foot three inches tall, wearing pants, a t-shirt and suspenders, as he stood in the hallway, his seventeen year old grandson standing at his side while they both stared blankly at their loved one.
I was the "Paramedic in Charge" that morning and it was my duty to delegate and maintain scene control throughout the call. I heard the front door open and turned to see my Paramedic Physician Advisor, the doctor who gave us the ability to work as freely as we did in that county, walk in the and acknowledge me. Dr. Toovy was new to Washington County. Rumor had it that he was very interactive with his Paramedics and this was no exception. We continued "working" this lady who, as we found out, had a downtime of up to two hours, based on the time she may have been seen awake last. This was not a good sign but without signs of obvious death we were obligated to give her the benefit of the doubt and continued with our efforts. After administering the indicated rounds of medications and resuscitation it was obvious that there was nothing further that we could do for the patient. This is probably the hardest time of all calls no matter how seasoned a Paramedic you are especially when family is present and witnessing the whole process unfold.
It was then that I had to turn and walk down the short hallway, towards the Grandfather and grandson, to lock my eyes with their scared, empty, lost, tearful eyes and first explain to them what we found and what we attempted to do; and then to tell the soul breaking news that there was nothing else we could do for her and to say that I was sorry.
What happened next is something I didn't expect...
That strapping, six foot three inch tall of a man dropped to his knees in that hallway next to his grandson, his face in both hands and began to weep like I've never seen a grown man weep before in my life. The whole of his body shook, the sound of a child coming from those enclosed hands while the grandson, with his head hung low and crying too, kept his arm around his Grandfather's shoulders in an attempt to console him. I tried my best to hide my tears but had to turn and walk away and out the front door myself.
I don't know why I shared this story amidst the subject at hand but every now and then it surfaces and I have to talk about it. I'm not looking for any sympathy but just sharing something real that happens out there in the world that most don't ever get to see.
WTF?
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Hey, I'm down for this scene, sign me up Corpseman. I ain't usually skinnin the eyeballs afore 3pm, but I'm all over that afterparty stuff cuz I'm nailed to the nightlife like christ on a cross. Ima get so lifted I'm like as to wake up in the grass in my a*#less chaps grappling with some camel lite girl. Any ya'll wanna kite, hit up Dwight cuz I got the sweet sh#t.
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climber
socal
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What about the "youngster's" balls? Do we go cupless? I guess it won't matter... there will be glory for everyone after the required 1629 o'clock kool-aid toast!
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Tuning the cello on the Dragon Arete last Sunday...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Now that is one sweet climb and a grate pic. What is that baby rated ? (I have this love affair with aretes.....:D)
Dang, Vogel, Craner, anyone who knew me from bitd....would yo ever have thought lynne would have a love affair with any kind of rock.....nevah. Life.....weird, crazy, dynamically sad....But in the end Wonderful. Smiles and Peace.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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so psyched for woodson. lack of fitness is secondary to the pure joy of moving over stone. grades so irrelevant right now. i get wet just thinking about woodson 5.9's.
OH HELL YEAH! bitches don't even know!!
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gonamok
Trad climber
get that crap outta here
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I went to woodson yesterday and the rock felt all pointy and hurt so i went home.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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but still, I'd love to make it with an American Legend in my van.
i lost the love of my life after 25 years together. but someday i'll find the next mrs. right. or so they say.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2010 - 01:05am PT
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Erik today at Santee on the Buttplug Traverse..
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2010 - 01:11am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2010 - 01:26am PT
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You in on this Hydra?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2010 - 01:27am PT
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bump
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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How many spots on the list does "I'm rick James...'" count for?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2010 - 01:55am PT
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Thousand Oaks area Weld_it?
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socal
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gonamok
Trad climber
get that crap outta here
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Here I am at woodson yesterday throwing a big 'mo on an unnamed highball 5.6b/c classic.
and lookit allenby back on the rock after all these years!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2010 - 05:21am PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Ron Kauk
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com**);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16 - 17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. Nathan Smith (http://www.pullphotography.com/**);
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org**);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30 - 31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com**);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com**);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Keith Patterson
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe (SDCC)
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58. Radical Riley
59. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com**);
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com**);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Tucker Tech
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88. em knOt aka Nurse Ratchett
89. Daphne
90 - 91. ? Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gary Anderson
94. BeeHay aka Brad H.
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. Jeff (SDCC)
100. ? Zach
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org**);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? "My Pal Val"
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123 - 124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html**);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (SDCC)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fabi
143. Andre
144. Anastasia Frangos Sherman
145. Bill Sherman
146. Sarah Alexander
147. Nightclub Dwight
148. Brenda Puff
149. I'm Rick James...
150. Hydra
151. Marc (USMC)
152. Jake (USMC)
153. Riley "Tom-Tom" (USMC)
154. A.J. (USMC)
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Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2010 - 05:28am PT
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Allenby going to be there?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2010 - 08:09pm PT
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Bump
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Nightclub Dwight
Social climber
Outside Your Window
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Ahhh but this'll be some sweet sally shindig. Bob-oh, you're sober as a priest eh? Sober as a judge is the common term, but most o the ones I been before are bent as my crank, so that don't fly neither. Means you waon't be sportin none a bindle of that foul tasting happy crap from yer jersey buddy? Sokay, Dwight's got a handle on things. Looking forward to wheedling the wheatstraw inside some of that wide wooly woodson stuff, Stoney can't compare, well worth the voyage down from NoHo.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Was there ever an answer to the question about Rick's actual status? Every time I asked the same question all I got in reply was silence. Is his name just a draw tease, or has someone managed to get in touch with him?
Nice pitures of the Dragon Arete, unusual and cool perspectives.
I just looked through the topos posted by Ron a ways back, as well as some that Erik has out there. Man, there's a lot of problems. You locals are lucky dogs. A couple of thoughts occurred to me:
Who would be the candidate(s) for having done the most problems at Woodson?
Any opinions on where the best concentration of high quality problems in a small area are, regardless of difficulty?
A good one is the small area right around the Big Grunt.
Cool Jerk, High on the Hog, Big Grunt, Deport Jonny, Forever, Imax, Slap You Silly, Eppi's B-day, Skid Row, Go With the Flow, Bad Boys From Detroit, and Laker Girls. All in a tight little area. You could spend a day right there, or shred your tips, whichever came first.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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my fave stretch of the hill is hear my train up to the jaws area. minimal amount of hiking for a king's ransom in golden problems.
another hot spot is the bat flake/alcoa area. so many good cracks n' faces!
my guess is rick won't be there, but we can always hope.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2010 - 10:07pm PT
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This was the last email I received regarding Rick as of 01/26/10:
"Hi Gary, Hope you are well! Saturday morning I sent an e-mail to Rick's then girlfriend Anna. She hasn't responded. So I don't know what to tell you other than maybe a reminder that Rick is pretty private. Also an enigma at times, that's why we love him! I'm sure Rick will hear of the shindig from someone and I'm guessing others have written her as well. Good luck in contacting him, I'll let you know if I get wind of any thing."
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gonamok
Trad climber
get that crap outta here
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Painted Boulder area is pretty packed with routes; featuring robbins and uncertainty, lie detector, drivin south, rock the boat and a bunch more, plus lots of unroped problems.
Its hard to know who has done what on the hill for several reasons, foremost being the topography, which just absorbs people once they get off the road. Unless you seek them out you dont see that many other climbers until they all come streaming down at the end of the day. Accessibility also makes activity on the hill hard to account for. You park right at the base and within 10 minutes you can be climbing.
You also gotta figure that the people who are climbing there all the time are usually climbing the farthest from the road where the new stuff is, out of view. I climbed extensively (like 5 days a week during some stretches) at woodson from the time i moved to poway in 82 to the mid/late 90's and when you climb there all the time you begin to see some faces consistently. Unless youre a road warrior or lap climber you dont see alot of other climbers until you emerge at the end of the day, so anyone you see consistently is probably there ALL the time (which took me awhile to realize). Those are the people doing lots of problems. I havent been one of those faces for 15 years and dont know who the new ones are, but they are there - you just gotta be one to know one.
Out of all the woodson rats thru the years who has climbed most is anybodys guess. Probably unknowable.
If you mean FA's, thats gonna be controversial. The only person I know of who was on the cutting edge from the poway mtn boys period and stayed there throughout the second wave of development (early 80's to mid 90's) was Piggot. I recorded 55, but mostly on mop-up detail behind the big boys. I dont even know if i could find em all now, and for the record, I couldnt carry any of those guys' chalkbags. Piggot et al were looking for, and found classics. Me and the boys I climbed with were happy with the squeezins. Allenby was in on 36 of those, a respectable number - dont know if he will be there, but i plan on twisting his arm.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2010 - 02:44am PT
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I'd have to second the motion that the Painted Boulder switchback probably has the easiest access and the most to choose from in every direction from slabs, mantles, face, cracks, laybacks, and offwidths.
There are so many other areas with great problems I almost feel that I'm leaving them out by having to choose one area over the other!
1986 California Bouldering Championship...
Can anyone else help to identify others in this photo?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2010 - 05:23am PT
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Unfortunately, the t-shirt isn't going to happen because of the lack of funds. If anyone can come up with something that'd be great but I can't do anything else with it, sorry.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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55 FAs? Sheesh. I may have had 3 or 4. I never really got into the whole bouldering world. To me, it was always practice for routes.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Is this one still there?
Possibly my onsight circa '87
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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MS is still there. Although Henny doesn't think so. One of the best climbs at woodson. If you have it wired with the stacking, try to do it with arm bars.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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People keep trying to tell me there's something down there. But every time I try to see it, no matter how hard I look...
There's nothing down there.
Move along, move along.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2010 - 03:54pm PT
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You know Darrell, the top part of MS has your name on it big time! Overhanging face with a thin topout, really good! I know it isn't you but you should TR the upper section just for it's movement (in total stealth mode of course)! Then again, being the very technically minded person that you already are, with the stacking involved and the knee locks, which are sooooo solid (the guys on widefetish.com call the wide section 5.8+), you'd love the mechanics on this thing and learn it quickly I'm sure! Remember what you said about Phd? You'll be asking yourself the same question, "Why'd I wait so long to get on this thing!"
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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I never saw it even though I had walked by it dozens of times. Rick P. is the one who showed it to me.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Reign 1 would fall over because he was laughing so hard.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Henny I'd be honored to belay you on that super easy crack climb. I'll even give you some arm baring tips to help you get started. (I don't think chicken legs would be big enough to help in stacking)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2010 - 04:18pm PT
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See Darrell? It's not even a crack climb, it's a "carck" climb so now there's no excuse!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2010 - 04:20pm PT
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LOL! For the heck of it I just googled "carck" and this is what came up:
"carck - 1 definition - someone who can't spell crack due to the fact they are on it."
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2010 - 04:26pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Ron Kauk
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com**);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16 - 17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. Nathan Smith (http://www.pullphotography.com/**);
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org**);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28. ? Klk
29. ScuffyB
30 - 31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com**);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com**);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Keith Patterson
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe (SDCC)
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58.
59. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com**);
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com**);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Tucker Tech
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88.
89. Daphne
90 - 91. Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gary Anderson
94. BeeHay aka Brad H.
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. Jeff (SDCC)
100. Zach
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org**);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? "My Pal Val"
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123 - 124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html**);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (SDCC)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fabi
143. Andre
144. Anastasia Frangos Sherman
145. Bill Sherman
146. Sarah Alexander
147. Nightclub Dwight
148. Brenda Puff
149. I'm Rick James...
150. Hydra
151. Marc (USMC)
152. Jake (USMC)
153. Ryan "Tom-Tom" (USMC)
154. A.J. (USMC)
155. ? Allenby
156. Tom Gibson
157-158. Scott & Robyn Erle
159. Larry Groff (Artist/Painter http://larrygroff.com);
160. Ben, Ramona
161. Tanya B.
162. ? C. Kikilia
163. ? Jay Richardson, Vista
164. ? Gordy Schafer, San Marcos
165. BEN
166. Randy
167. Joe
168. ? Russ
169. Jay (Solid Rock Gym, Poway)
170. Splater aka Tom Donnely
171. Phil (California Night 03/13/10)
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Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2010 - 04:50pm PT
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APB out on this man (left):
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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illusiondweller- "I don't know why I shared this story..."
bvd- "WTF"
Early one morning(4AM)I was awakened to the loud boom-boom-boom of what I suspected was someone about to bust my door down. As it turned out, the fire dept. was bustin open the door of a neighbors condo directly across from me, as smoke poured out his windows. I had a birds eye view. They pulled him out and began resuscitation efforts. After 10-15 min. I went back inside, my mind racing. I dozed off and awoke about 45-50 min. later and went back outside. I was startled to see the paramedics were still there, pumping away on my neighbors chest.
I can not imagine a more difficult job, especially when loved ones are watching and your efforts are in vain.
Thanks Gary for sharing your story, and for all the effort you have expended as a first responder...it was not in vain. It takes a especially gifted person to do what you, Cragman, and Werner do and I am deeply grateful.
bvd! Like the man said, he doesn't know why he shared his story here, amongst all the prattle and longing for day's gone-bye.
BTW, nice shot of the lady on RC Bob!(Was she the "luv of yer life" that you mentioned?
C-ya all on the hill, Trip!
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gonamok
Trad climber
get that crap outta here
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Im with henny, aint nuttin down that hole
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gonamok
Trad climber
get that crap outta here
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hope this helps
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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"doesn't seem like the t-shirt thing is going to happen"
?? Why not?? Still enough time!!
Somebody could make a pretty penny on this, and for some time to come(with back orders)! Where are all the entrepreneurs?
I vote for bvb's sketch that was posted earlier.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2010 - 09:29pm PT
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Bob, you posted a t-shirt sketch earlier? Where?
TripL7, are you Tripper Jack in the above photo (1986 contest)?
EMS was "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride" over the (17) years I was involved. I'm nobody special, just curious and wanted to overcome just being a bystander when faced with a difficult situation, what I considered a weakness way back when. So, I enrolled in an EMT Basic class at a community college in '89 and eventually became a Paramedic in '93 at (31) years old, old compared to most of my classmates, ages (19) - (25)! There were two of us over (30).
In 1999 I used my Paramedic license to join the Navy Reserves as a Corpsman at (36) years old, two month's before my 37th b-day. They called my name in 2004 and I ended up in Iraq from the end of Aug. '04 to March '05. Other than being mortared about every other day, (101) mortars, (50) rockets, (1) IED, it was the most boring campout of my life!
Thank God I wasn't hurt and came home to see my new little one born into the world, Glory to God!
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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Not sure who "Tripper Jack" is/was. I was on the hill in 1986, and there is a shot of yours truly rubber necking the fabulous/one and only RK on his flash of Lie Detector in the culminating seconds of that epic day/event(i am the guy to the right of and a little behind Phil Bard)FWIW.
Does anyone recall hearing the dude shout at the top of his lungs "Hurry up Honey, Ron Kauk is going to do Uncertainty Principle!" Just as RK is finishing tying in and about to proceed on the classic tr? You could have heard a pin drop, it was as if Moses was about to part the Red Sea!
The bvb artwork I was referring to was similar to, if actually knott, the sketch that adorned the "Woodson Guide" bitd! Perhaps it was MP's artwork(i believe he authored the guide). It would make a very cool and apropos design for a t-shirt, stimulating the senses and such for years to come...eh! Of course it would require approval of the rightful owner/artist. Just sayin!!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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if you're talking about a simple line drawing of the profile of mt. woodson form a distance, that was me. it was on the cover of my mount woodson tick book from '85.
always didi like that little drawing
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2010 - 02:15pm PT
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Can u post that up Bob?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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alas, no scanner, but there is a copy of it back in those move topos that got posted up in this htreda awhile back.
not sure that it's t-shirt material...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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I actually have two Mt. Woodson t-shirts.....the California Bouldering Championship 1986 and the Stone Masters Competition Mount Woodson March 29, 1986....
Stonemasters features a guy in blue lycra climbing a finger crack.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2010 - 02:54am PT
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I ran into four Marines, during an incredible afternoon up at Woodson today, who were attached to an air wing at MCAS Miramar, the oldest being my eldest son's age, 25, and the rest in their earlier twenties. It was their first time on Woodson, and on real rock for some of them.
I met up with the guys at Blasted Rock #2 and decided to take them under my wing and give them the tour. Their names were: Marc, Jake, Ryan aka "Tom-Tom", and A.J. They hope to be at the Shindig as well.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2010 - 03:15am PT
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Edit: Moved from above.
Damon being taught a lesson...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2010 - 03:30am PT
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Is that you in the white t-shirt with your arms crossed, to the right of Phil Bard TripL7?
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matisse
climber
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I love the BVB notebooks. great art.
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climber
socal
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If anybody happens to find a Julbo sunglasses case with extra lenses at Woodson I'd be very thankful to get it back.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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bump this noise!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2010 - 10:49pm PT
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Frank Endo comes through.
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Free dust
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Yeah that be me Lynne on the '86 Stonemaster's shirt in the blue lycra...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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Anyone have a picture of the Stonemaster shirt?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2010 - 12:59am PT
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These guys must be related ?! Wait, it's the same guy one with/without the goatee (j/k)!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2010 - 01:11am PT
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Let's see, so far we have to giveaway: (3)ropes, hardware (stoppers, hexes, ATC's, biners), gear sling, shoes, resoles, t-shirts, chalkbags, chalk, magazines, posters. If anyone else can obtain anything and bring it that would be too cool!
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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"that you in the white t-shirt with your arms crossed...?"
Yep!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2010 - 01:28am PT
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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"These guys must be related ?! Wait, it's the same guy one with/without the goatee (j/k)!"
Not related, just climb a lot together,
Lots of people think we are brothers
Tom Scott and myself on top of Mt. Russell after doing Fishhook Arete
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Just got word that Tom Gibson will definitely be there.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2010 - 02:03am PT
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Wow, would never have guessed that you two were climbing partners as well! I had a good friend in school that was my "shotgun" throughout high school and even though his hair was brown and mine was blonde, everyone thought we were brothers. Hope to see you two at the shindig!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2010 - 02:03am PT
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Thanks Greg, cool!
Is Tom already on the list? I don't see him and/or don't know his username.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2010 - 02:53am PT
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Good Night...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2010 - 11:29am PT
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Good Morning! Raining pretty in San Diego!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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snowing in flag. no rocks for me today.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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illusiondweller, et al.
I only climbed at Woodson a couple of times but loved it! How could you not?
Anyway, although the date is probably too close to pull this off before the event, I can assist with T-shirt design, printing, sale, distribution since, after all... I do that sort of thing!
An event like this MUST have a shirt to commemorate it so unless someone is taking care of it behind the scenes, please drop me a line and let's get it done. As you can see from the new (master) site, http://www.vershke.com I donate 10% of profits to the YCA, YOSAR and the ASCA so we can feel good about doing a shirt AND get a coolshirt!
Let me know!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Watusi, does this look familiar or bring back any memories :D
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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How bout this one ????? Yikes, we had some fun bitd! As well as today of course ! Peace, lynne
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Okay, there WILL be a t-shirt for the 2010 Mt Woodson Shindig! Not sure what it will look like yet but I am scratching ideas right now. Full details will be posted on Monday 3/8 and you will need to ACT FAST to get your shirt at the event.
Those that do not order prior to the event will be able to get the shirts online post-event. Again... full details tomorrow.
In the meantime... any ideas on shirt graphics are welcome!
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climber
socal
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Ihateplastic, what kind of fit are your t-shirts? I've already got too many t-shirts that are meant to fit people shaped like a box, but I'd consider buying one if they are athletic/slim/vintage fit.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Ahhh... the fit question. Originally I used fitted shirts that looked great. But there seemed to be people who did not have a euro-fit type body so I had to go to a more traditional fit.
I am going to see if I can do a couple of versions, men's reg fit & men's muscle and (womens reg fit & cami)
So much to do in very little time!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Wow! Yeah Lynne...That's the one. I'm on "I would die for you" right by Jaws, eek, Lycra...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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What..... ekkkk lycra ????? you looked great :D
Maybe they should do a take off from the bitd shirts........
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Thanx Lynne for saying so but I just get a little embarrassed these days...Wondering if we thought we were action heroes or something...
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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I remember RK's statement "The Duke(John Wayne)didn't wear lycra!"
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Watusi, nada ! We All wore the L. I gave mystery guest appearances in middle schools.....they had to guess what I was. I was just a climbing poser but a good one because all I did was watch climbers. Well, I had my great lycra outfit along with Dan's chalk bag and shoes.
Yo guys looked Grate in the l. and shortie shorts....trust us gals. :D
Ps, in Europe lycra is coming back....I bought a pair. Sweet.
Edit: triple7 .... I loved the Duke but his body was not a climbers body.....he was a -10 on lycra.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Love lycra on the ladies, but i can do without seeing dudes with their 'nads on display in bas relief. Im no prude, but not into the public puppet show thang neither.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 12:26am PT
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Wow!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 12:32am PT
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I think we need to invite Mr. Larry Groff into the Woodson climbing circles and make him an honorary member. We will be using Mr. Groff's talents in producing the t-shirt design for this years 2010 Mt. Woodson Shindig! I don't know what to say but, Glory to God!
Goto: http://larrygroff.com/blog/ and read Larry's latest direction that he'll be persuing!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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Edit: Actually, Mr. Simon King contacted him and got him back. Great call Simon!
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Well, since you are handing out credit... it is Simon King.
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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Any info on this area of Woodson around California Night? The comma looking boulder is down by the fire road.
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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How about the boulder just above and right of the water tank. Pretty good 25 foot face.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Nice spot there Johannsolo! Peace, MP.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 02:24am PT
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That thin, 25' crack, is it downhill (east), walking down across some slabs from California Night? If this is it, I don't know of a name but remember Tom Lindner showing it to me with Chris Lindner when he was about 4-5, which would make it 88-89 (Chris was born in '84, same as my son), and Chris was able to make it up this in his tennis shoes that his Dad put "Shoo Goo" on the bottoms! I was there when Chris did it! The crack is facing east as well. Could this be it?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Really beautiful artwork Gary! Your friend Larry has it going for sure, PTL!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 06:08am PT
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Larry is just another guy you run into going up Woodson these days Mike. You see him once in a while with his easel and paint.
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Marti
climber
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Hello. Can anyone here write list of songs that are in movie SHARP END?? The soundtrack is great!
Thanks :)
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Very inspired work however...Love his use of light and shadow!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Scott AND Robin Erler!!! Sheeeze I haven't them in about 20 some years!! PLEASE get name tags for all us knuckleheads, I'd hate to walk by someone I haven't seen forever and not recognize them....hard to believe I wouldn't recognize the beautiful Robin though! Any current photos of them out there?
Scott or Robin, PLEASE come introduce yerselfs, I'd LOVE to see you again!
Peace
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Johannsolo
climber
Soul Cal
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The thin crack is in a massive corridor/cave complex and would be very memorable. An amazing area that someone has been to as there are bolts on top of the crack and an arete (lost arrow piton with two bolts drilled thru).
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Just when I can't possibly get any more hectic... CRASH! Working hard to get the HD back up to speed. Once that happens the shirt artwork will be posted.
I love computers... until they stop working then I hate life!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 01:58pm PT
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It has been so long Johnny but I'm sure it's the same area for we descended into a corridor with the thin crack being on the left wall as you walked down into it.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 02:04pm PT
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Marti, you coming? Anyone else coming that you know of?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 03:34pm PT
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Wow, last minute donations are coming in...Black Diamond with a cam and biners, wohoooo!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 03:48pm PT
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Interesting bit on Mt. Woodson's history:
"According to Jerry Schad, the local Indians called this the Mountain of Moonlit Rocks, and later pioneers called it Cobbleback Peak. It was mapped as Woodson Mountain in honor of a prominent homesteader who moved here in 1895, confederate dentist Dr. Marshall Clay Woodson, and now it's best known as Mount Woodson." (http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=282613);
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 04:11pm PT
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Chris Hubbard guide:
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 05:43pm PT
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Extended weather forecast for Ramona, CA
Detailed ten-day forecast °F | °C
Day Forecast Description Precip chance
__Today
Mar 08__
Details Rain
Hi: 55° Lo: 43°
Day: Rain. High 55F. Winds W at 11 mph. Air Quality: Good, UV Index: 2
40%
Night: Showers. Low 43F. Winds SW at 8 mph.
20%
__Tomorrow
Mar 09__
Details Partly Cloudy
Hi: 52° Lo: 36°
Day: Partly Cloudy. High 52F. Winds W at 17 mph. Air Quality: Good, UV Index: 5
0%
Night: Partly Cloudy. Low 36F. Light winds.
0%
Wednesday
Mar 10 Mostly Sunny
Hi: 56° Lo: 41°
Mostly Sunny. High 56F. Winds W at 16 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: 5
0%
Thursday
Mar 11 Mostly Sunny
Hi: 60° Lo: 39°
Mostly Sunny. High 60F and low 39F. Winds E at 8 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: 6
0%
Friday
Mar 12 Sunny (Clear)
Hi: 63° Lo: 45°
Sunny. High 63F and low 45F. Winds W at 10 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: NA
0%
Saturday
Mar 13 Mostly Sunny
Hi: 59° Lo: 47°
Mostly Sunny. High 59F and low 47F. Winds W at 13 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: NA
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Sunday
Mar 14 Mostly Sunny
Hi: 61° Lo: 41°
Mostly Sunny. High 61F and low 41F. Winds W at 9 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: NA
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Monday
Mar 15 Mostly Sunny
Hi: 77° Lo: 59°
Mostly Sunny. High 77F and low 59F. Winds NW at 4 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: NA
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Tuesday
Mar 16 Sunny (Clear)
Hi: 71° Lo: 59°
Sunny. High 71F and low 59F. Winds W at 9 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: NA
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Wednesday
Mar 17 Sunny (Clear)
Hi: 69° Lo: 59°
Sunny. High 69F and low 59F. Winds W at 6 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: NA
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 07:36pm PT
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I hope the "Sunny (Clear)" extends to the weekend!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Nice with the history Gary! I love that stuff!
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Hubbards drawings are great, excellent work
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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a trio of woodsonites as they looked BITD. Amick, Allenby, Campos
credit: Greg Epperson - thanks Greg
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Yeah, they're great and vaguely reminiscent of...:D
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2010 - 11:50pm PT
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What year was that Ron?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 12:36am PT
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Thanks for trying radical...there will be many, many pictures to document the days I'm sure! Hope to keep seeing your posts in the days to come! Stay in touch.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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the pic im guessing was around 86. That introduction to Mt Woodson was written by me for Craig Fry's socal bouldering guide, but the add-on at the end was Craig's, and should have read "previous info was by MICHAEL PAUL", not Ron Amick.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 02:29am PT
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This is the ending from a short story, The Rocks Won't Fetch, by Bill Jackson:
"Back in San Diego after many years starting and pastoring churches in the Midwest, motives cleaned of spiritual lichen over a twenty-year hiatus from climbing, I wrapped my fingers around the fine-grained granite of Mt. Woodson and closed my eyes. Sensations shot through my nerve endings and memories flooded my brain of Eldorado's Bastille, New Hampshire's fall colors on Mt. Washington, bloody jams at Joshua Tree it seemed like it had been yesterday.
It was OK now. I was secure in myself so I no longer demanded the rocks to fetch for me. My anger had long ago disappeared into a sea of forgiveness and challenging life to a duel now seemed a foolish enterprise. I had put first things first and was at last able to reengage with a new generation under wing. They are the strong warriors now and I, perhaps, the keeper of wisdom.
I felt the muscles in my biceps flex as my fingers locked off. Feet in opposition, I powered my way up the flake. Always eager to work two systems at once, my right hand ventured off to another crack to the right and I stepped out of the wedge to stem the face. My new 5.10 Spires found edges my EBs would have missed and I could hear my heart pumping "out loud" again. When I pulled myself over the edge, my eyes soaked in the Ramona Valley and I felt like I'd just had coffee with an old friend."
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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SHIRT ANNOUNCEMENT...
EDIT: ARTWORK CHANGE... New artwork will be uploaded this AM. Painting will be the Uncertainty Principle Boulder.
Okay, after 24+ hours of hard disk problems I am 90% operational again in the art department (still missing a cople hundred fonts...?)
Anyway, the shirt for the 2010 Mt. Woodson Shindig will look like this mock-up. It features a beautiful full-color painting by Mt. Woodson artist, Larry Groff who has graciously let us use the print for a very modest honorarium. I felt it best to let the artwork speak for itself rather than clog it up with lots of climbing stuff. This shirt will be a collector's item!
The shirt will be available in men's and women's sizes. I will have ordering, pricing, color choices, etc. available on Tuesday. I will post the links here and on a separate thread. Spread the word!
VERY IMPORTANT...
If you order your shirt by THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON you will have it availble for pickup at hte event. IF YOU WAIT until after that time it will be mailed to you later this month. That means you will have Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and part of Friday to get your order placed. This will allow me (barely) enough time to print and get them to the event for March 19 handout.
ANOTHER EDIT: Artwork posted below on my post.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 02:38am PT
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A seldom photographed climb on Woodson. Can you name it?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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We used to call this "Bozo NoNo" on the "Uncertainty Principle" boulder, 5.10c or 5.7,A0...Hey Ron, I never wrote that...I certainly wouldn't have listed myself, especially not first, as a major contributor...Just followed in JB's footsteps is all...Peace kids and have a great time!! I'd love to see you all, maybe next time. That shirt looks awesome IHP!! I loved that piece, and it was that one that had me comment on this exceptional artist's use of shadows and light!!
edit: That's a cool bit of that short story Gary!!:)
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Hey bvb, watusi, dimes and co (don't know a lot of the other aliases). Really wish I could make the shindig thing and revisit the good old days. But moved to Scotland in 1989, and unfortunately won't be able to make it across the water this year. Started climbing at Woodson back in 1974 when I was a student at UCSD, and it was always one of my favorite places, especially for soloing. There are great places here for soloing too, especially the fantastic sandstone outcrops in Northumberland, on the Scottish/English border. They've become my Woodson substitute.
And it is indeed me (Paul Schweizer) in those photos of soloing Jaws and Driving South back in the early 80's that appeared near the start of the thread. Eppi snapped them on my old Olympus compact (a 'real dog' he called it), so I've got the original slides which have since been scanned. But Mike Paul definitely had that much hair back then too.
Anyway, hope the shindig's a blast, and enjoy crack heaven. Maybe get back there one of these days...
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Woodson's reputation as a crack climbing Mecca was now written in stone-a misleading perception which exists to this day.
"a misleading perception"? Really?
Not.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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"a misleading perception"? Really?
no kidding. if there is another crack bouldering area in north america that even comes close to woodson, i'd like to know where it is because i'm a wanna gonna go there!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Wow! Paul Schweizer! Nice to hear from you man!!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 03:09pm PT
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Yeah, Wow is right on Schweizer! And to hear that the photo's are of HIM and not YOU Mike! Guess he fooled most all of us!
Good call on Bozo No-No. I'm sure glad to hear your confirmation on the rating to the start to that thing Mike. Ever since I figured out that puzzle at the bottom I too rated it 10b/c and the upper face 5.7. Over the years, I've seen/heard that most people can't figure out the start so they just clip the first bolt and yard up on the face, tsk tsk!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 03:41pm PT
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Mr. Schweizer,
Scotland holds a "wee bit" in my heart as well for I'm a "Mac"kay (original spelling until "some dam_ American changed it" to McCay, as I was told). Curious, what moved you to Scotland? My late Grandfather, "Scotty" Edward Thomson, (RAF); was from Glasgow and I still remember him well. He use to wear the Glasgow Coat of Arms on his dinner jacket and he would recite the poem in his strong Scottish brogue:
"There's the tree that never grew,
There's the bird that never flew,
There's the fish that never swam,
There's the bell that never rang."
I still say I'm going to vacation there, first flying to Ireland and then taking the boat over to Scotland. Maybe one day I will.
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Yeah, Mike, great hearing from you again too! It was good running into you at the J Tree reunion at KP's hacienda a few years back.
Not sure where those old photos of Jaws and Driving South came from this time around. Last time there was a Woodson reunion Ray Olsen kindly posted them on the SuperTopo thread. But I didn't know there was a reunion happening this year until Randy Vogel mentioned it to me quite recently.
And Illusion Dweller, thanks for your greetings. I moved to Scotland cause I got a job at the University of Edinburgh just after finishing my Ph.D. at UC Irvine. Have lived here ever since. The winter climbing and mountain biking are world class. Rock climbing is damn good, but somewhat limited by the wet climate. I really miss the sunshine and warm granite of California. But you should definitely visit the place if you get a chance.
Cheers
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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If yo are coming to the slanderfest at the leichtfuss casa saturday nite there is another lodging option. About 5 miles or less from the casa is Rincon Hotel and Casino, a fairly upscale place. Check the internet for info.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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actually my point was that woodson isnt just a bunch of cracks, the face climbs are also high quality and far more abundant.
Unfortunately words sometimes get in the way of what one is trying to say, and i ended up saying that the notion of woodson being a crack mecca is a misperception...youll be a lot better off if ya dont pay too much attention to what i say
Hey bob, for cracks theres this place called yosemite you oughta check out.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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youll be a lot better off if ya dont pay too much attention to what i say
been takin' that advice for years, babe!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 09:54pm PT
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Gary helps Ron take his boot outta his mouth so we can understand him more clearly, "Let go Ron, let me do it, I'm stronger than you are! I've been clearing airways for years!"
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2010 - 10:11pm PT
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Okay, let's get the official word right now...
What is the name of this problem?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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that problem never had a name that i ever heard. it was just "the traverse behind shawn's knobs."
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Dick Cilley. I'll meet you at JT on Thursday evening (18th). Climb some wide at JT on Friday and then head down to SD Friday night. Tom will already be there. Got a place to stay for both of us. This'll be a blast. Will start crash diet tomorrow. Counting on you to bring the tape.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Wow, in a way with the coarseness of the ol' pic, the Converses and all, I could be bouldering in the forties or sump'n!
edit: 'cept for the long hair...
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Anxious Melancholy
Mountain climber
Between the Depths of Despair & Heights of Folly
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how many times has illusiondweller bumped his own thread? gotta be a st record.
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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TD, better get your behind up there,
I have a 6 hr. drive, no excuses for you
JB
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Mar 10, 2010 - 12:17am PT
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My brother wants him and Joe on the list.
BEN
Randy
Joe
Russ maybe
fat guys climbing
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Anxious Melancholy
Mountain climber
Between the Depths of Despair & Heights of Folly
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Mar 10, 2010 - 12:17am PT
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sorry jb. woodson will always (comparatively) be there, and much more mellow after the hun's retreat. the ephemeral seduction that tahquitz currently provides (so cal ice!)is a much stronger enticement............
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 10, 2010 - 12:45am PT
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That's one heck of a bump there Gary!!:)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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Anxious,
Woodson is always "mellow" these days, every day at that, even on weekends anymore! Back in the day Woodson was expected to be crawling with climbers on the weekends and a good number throughout the week. I never heard of anyone concerned that there were too many people on the mountain back then.
During the contests in '86 and '90 the mountain was packed with folks from wide and far, all vying to be a part of something that Woodson could only bring to them. On March 19 - 21, 2010, three days out of (365), Woodson will again be "packed with folks from wide and far, all vying to be a part of something that Woodson could only bring to them." It's too bad you won't be there. I wish you were.
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Mar 10, 2010 - 08:21am PT
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Is Dick Cilley back in the country? - last I heard he was hanging out in a cave in Spain.
And what about other Woodson Old Timers like the Almadovar Bros and Tom and Elke Lindner - are they still around?
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 10, 2010 - 11:39am PT
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Here's another crappy scan from the same session as Watusi conversed up on that traverse. My advice to the younger generation, "When you get older, you're gonna wish you took better care of your negatives, err, image files, whatever, maybe I mean teeth..."
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 10, 2010 - 12:19pm PT
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Here's a 3 months late explanation (as best as I recall) of how "Deport Jonny" came to be named...
Jonny came to town (I want to say with Maria and Powell) and both he and Powell climbed it. Jonny called it "Under Their Noses" since it was on a boulder that already had established problems.
Obviously, that could not stand, and so Rick Piggott, Don Bedford, Dan Haughelstine, et al. started referring to it (jokingly) as "Deport Jonny" which of course stuck.
I'd hate to see the important history of 18 feet of premium Woodson granite lapse into obscurity!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 10, 2010 - 12:23pm PT
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i recognize myself and watusi in thta photo -- who's the third guy?
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Mar 10, 2010 - 12:55pm PT
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Wasn't Ray Olsen also involved in the problem somewhow? I think I remember hearing something to that extent from KP. I'd try to get KP to post up but that would probably be a waste of all of our time. "lapse into obscurity" seems to better describe what has happened to his memory. You know it's bad when he has to ask me what he's done.
Probably a little late to deport JW now.
Mini - Bishop + the names you used. I'm curious...
bvb - Talked to KP last night. Sounds like he'll be in good form come shindig time. Any bets on how long it'll take before someone goes down?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 10, 2010 - 12:57pm PT
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Classic Doug!! Those were sure fun times indeed!!!:)
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 10, 2010 - 01:04pm PT
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Yeah Bob, I'm unclear on person three. Photographic evidence suggests Karl Mueller was on the hill with us that day, but that's definitely not him. I've tried to believe it's Frank Noble, he had a rugby shirt fetish, but that doesn't seem right. Voytko? Been so long since I've seen him I can scarcely recall a face.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 10, 2010 - 01:29pm PT
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i saved the photo to my HD and then rotated it so we're not upside down. it's a bit more clear to see who's who that way -- i think that's karl mueller.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 02:11pm PT
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A great photo! I know Karl Mueller and that doesn't look like him.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 10, 2010 - 02:19pm PT
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I think it's Karl, too.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 10, 2010 - 02:21pm PT
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No, not Karl. Here's a pic of him the same day. While he is rocking the mop top look and hard boy adidas-on-the-tv-screen action, he's in shorts, not sweatpants.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 10, 2010 - 02:23pm PT
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Oh, and while we're on the topic of Mr Mueller, check out this old pic from Boomer Beach, taking special note of the fresh graffiti on the right. Looks like someone didn't know how to spell Karl's first name...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 10, 2010 - 02:23pm PT
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hmmmm. who is the mystery man? might be that moon guy from jtree.
heh. that "carl m. takes tension" was my bit of vandalistic genius.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 02:35pm PT
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Karl then...
Karl now...
"I met Karl when I lived in San Diego, and we had last climbed in Eldorado Canyon in the 80s. I recently got reacquainted with Karl and we vowed to get together and go climbing again. Yesterday, he led me up Pat Ament’s 1964 route “Werk Supp” in Eldorado Canyon. Karl is now a professor of Geology at the University of Colorado and is raising a family. It was a fine day as we managed to avoid the heat in the shade of the north face of the Bastille. Any of the old Woodson crew out there, say hi to Karl." - Rick Acamazzo (Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2008 - 01:03pm PT)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 02:43pm PT
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Not that this means anything to anyone else but me, but I went to school with Karl's younger brother Kurt who with him and Bernie Barge did a ten day loop from North Lake to South Lake which included the "Disappearing Creek" of the Enchanted Gorge in the Sierra's way back in 1978-79. I just ran into Kurt walking Woodson about a month ago, he works for Solar.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
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"Will the imposter, Karl Mueller, please stand up!"
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 03:09pm PT
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Mike Geller on Boulder 13
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 10, 2010 - 03:14pm PT
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Well, Karl did like the occasional rugby shirt now and then, maybe it is him. I don't recall him smiling that much, so maybe it's the giddy grin from dangling that way that makes it look different. Here's another day, another place...
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Mar 10, 2010 - 03:20pm PT
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Classic! Hip belay with the biners set up to retain the rope.
How did any of us ever survive long enough to get to be the old geezers we are?
Hanging upside down could also slightly distort facial features - possibly. No opinion being offered - just a thought.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 10, 2010 - 03:52pm PT
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How did any of us ever survive? I'm sure I have no idea what you're talking about Henny...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 10, 2010 - 03:57pm PT
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pretty sure that pic of karl and mike was taken at the base of stone groove in '76.
a careful evaluation of the mystery man's dental features further convinces me that the mystery dangler is karl.
i think.
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elke513
Sport climber
Ramona, Ca
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Mar 10, 2010 - 06:26pm PT
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Hey Paul Schweizer, good to hear from you. Tom and I are still living across the street from Mt. Woodson. Switched totally to Sports climbing after Tom broke his back in 88 in the Canyonlands.
Take care,
Elke
BTW - Gary, you can take the ? off our names. We will be there.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 10, 2010 - 06:47pm PT
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Those Vasque ascender boots (also called shoe-nards) Karl is wearing rock! Edging machines.
Cool seeing pics of the beach cliffs too. Summer days climbing at the beach, then barbecue and beers on the little grass patch up above the cliffs are some of my best memories.
Maybe mother nature will see fit to give those sea cliffs back one day. They have been buried for prolly 20 years now.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 10, 2010 - 06:55pm PT
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youll be a lot better off if ya dont pay too much attention to what i say
been takin' that advice for years, babe!- bvb
gotta luv it
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em kn0t
Trad climber
isle of wyde
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Mar 10, 2010 - 07:52pm PT
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hey friends
so sorry to say I'm gonna miss the shindig; most especially bummed to miss touching base with old friends and new who will be there. very best wishes for a great weekend; I'll be waiting with worms on my tongue* to see the TRs. Give those beautiful boulders a group hug from me
climb on!
em
(*baited breath, in case you're wondering)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 10, 2010 - 08:01pm PT
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Will be totally missing yo em.....another time :D You're always welcome in So Cal. lynnie
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 08:19pm PT
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Thanks Elke! Didn't know how to get back in touch with you after seeing you up on Woodson that day. I just spoke with Chris yesterday and he was in Vegas, having just drove through a blizzard through Utah all the way to St. George, he told me. He was on his way to Bishop and said he'd probably be down to Woodson on Tues or Wed to climb next week.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 08:38pm PT
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BD comes through...Cam and biners!
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 10, 2010 - 09:05pm PT
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"Let go Ron, let me do it, I'm stronger than you are!
dude, you say some weird s hit
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 09:24pm PT
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"...lycra on the ladies, i can do without...but seeing dudes with their 'nads on display...relief!"
Now Ron, you're really starting to scare me...touche'!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 09:52pm PT
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Ugh...forecast isn't looking good...
10-Day Forecast for
Ramona, CA (92065)
Fri
Mar 19
Scattered Showers
Hi 64°
Low 45°
Precip.
Chance 40%
It's definitely going to be cooler than last time though!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2010 - 10:05pm PT
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Tues and Wed look gorgeous!
Tue Mar 16
Sunny
76°
44°
0%
76°F
Wed Mar 17
Sunny
73°
45°
0%
73°F
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 10, 2010 - 11:48pm PT
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if you are going to quote, then cut and paste. If you alter what was said or written as you have done here it is not a quote, it is a fabrication.
Get it right or STFU
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 10, 2010 - 11:56pm PT
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my post:
Mar 7, 2010 - 08:46pm PT
"Love lycra on the ladies, but i can do without seeing dudes with their 'nads on display in bas relief. Im no prude, but not into the public puppet show thang neither."
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2010 - 01:27am PT
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I was at least expecting a high-five on that last one Ron...sheesh!
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 11, 2010 - 02:17am PT
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Henny,
I learned to climb with those dudes (+ the Pocket Russian)at Woodson and the other usual So. Cal haunts when I was but a lad in the late 80's.(I shot those photos of Piggott leading Ph.D posted here earlier in the thread.) I remember our paths crossing when I worked at Sports Country Ltd. in San Berdoo with Dave Bridges in the early 90's, then at Five.Ten, then Fish Products...I finally bailed the whole climbing scene in about 1997 or so, having fallen on, backed off of, or flat out walked away from most of the finest routes everywhere.
Before I became "Mini"(so called by Russ Walling during my tenure at FiveTen--and forever thus) people used to call me Chris Persinger. I've been teaching design at Bishop High School for the past 9 years and trying to figure out why people now bring their beds with them to go bouldering.
If you've never seen (or heard of) the footage I shot of KP at the Hueco Rock Rodeo post contest bonfire/disco in 1992 or so, come on in to town and I'll dust off a VCR and fire up a trip down memory lane. Fun footage of the very much alive and young Dave Bridges too. I miss that guy.
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KP, if you don't want Henny to see the footage of you I shot at the Hueco Rock Rodeo in 1992, send a shoe box full of unmarked $1.00 bills** to: The Mini Cheese, c/o Bishop Union High School 301 N. Fowler St. Bishop CA 93514
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**I assume its not against the law to extort someone using a public forum if:
a. it's between friends and/or associates
b. the address is a public school
c. the people at the school have no idea who "the mini cheese" is and will therefore pilfer the money anyway before I can collect
d. the bills are in one dollar denominations
oh yeah, here's me back in "the day"...I'm sure this clarifies it for you.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Mar 11, 2010 - 03:38am PT
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Mini, I know excatly who you are. Didn't I drag you up O'kellys Crack and Wangerbanger many moons ago?
Oh, and it's okay to slander KP all you want. I don't mind a bit.
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 11, 2010 - 01:22pm PT
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Well, Reign 1, if I'm me, and you dragged me up O'Kellys (and others...) that'd make you Donny Bedford. If that's you then yes, I'm definitely me. How's it going man? I take it you're still climbing and carrying on. I think I've got a few shots of you at Woodson too--I'll try to post em up.
Make it up to Bishop much? Don't know if I'll make it down to this thing, but it sounds like a great time...I've seen Lidija in passing a few times up here but that's about it from the olden times. If you're ever round these parts you should stop by and check out the circus I'm running now. Maybe we can even go climbing--I've heard there's some good bouldering around here someplace, buried underneath about 12,479 crash pads, piles of $37 beanies, and 40,000 acre feet of pure spray...
"Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Mar 11, 2010 - 01:59pm PT
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Post any pictures you have of Bedford grovelling. I need a really good laugh right about now.
I think I remember you Mini. Maybe sometime when I come into the big city on an errand we can touch base. Video of KP? Hope it's not something like the time he and I were at Gordo's place in JT, when KP was crawling around on the floor with a helmet on so he wouldn't get brain damage when he ran into things like the refrigerator while he was trying to get his next brew. Then again... maybe I do hope it's something like that...
Personally, I would have asked/demanded $100's, not $1's.
Bridges was a loss. I still remember where/when I got the call about those guys.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2010 - 02:25pm PT
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Is this you Donny?
Looter Pro Racing - 2009 Looter Pro/KMG Racing Team
Donny Bedford – Master’s Ski/World Class Driver
Expert Ski Superstock -
Don Bedford, California, first, 120, Kawasaki.
Ski Superstock
Greg Clark, California, first, 332; Peter Yauri, California, second, 223; Adam Adable, California, third, 103; Don Bedford, California, fourth, 87; Neal Megata, California, fifth, 48. All rode Kawasakis.
Master Ski Superstock
Chris Alexander, California, first, 303, Kawasaki; Charles Sims, California, second, 240, Polaris; Don Bedford, California, third, 221, Kawasaki; Steve Fitzen, Nevada, fourth, 106, Yamaha.
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Klepacabra
Boulder climber
vista
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Mar 11, 2010 - 02:35pm PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2010 - 02:40pm PT
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LOL, I looked at that and said, "I wonder who that guy is?"
Thanks Chris.
Hey! Maybe THAT was the last time I had BOTH of my Acopa Aztecs! I still just have one in the back of my car.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Mar 11, 2010 - 02:51pm PT
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Yeah Gary, That's me. I've been racing standup jetski's for about 9 years. Those standups are hard a hell to race and a great challenge. I got into riding them when I moved to Vegas and it was to hot to climb. My avatar photo is from Benicia in 06 hitting the log jump. They go pretty fast now. 60+ mph standing on a pencil in 2-3 ft of chop is fun.
Chris, I don't climb anymore. Henny has got me to show up and belay him a few times. He said he wanted to see me and catch up on the past. But as soon as I got to woodson he asked if I still had my Grigri and could I belay him on some stuff. I did do a couple of 5.10's up there. Dan still climbs between surfing and riding his motorcycles. I also race beginner class MX on a honda 450r. I'd do that more often but I seem to break a leg every couple years. I do alot of mountain biking and road biking now and ride up woodson at least once a week and then down one of the trails on the north side. Oh yeah, I snowboard as much as I can in the winter. Ride an O-Matic Awesome 158.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
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Firefighter as well? I was a Paramedic from '93 to '07.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Mar 11, 2010 - 03:03pm PT
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Not a firefighter. That's my friend Dave Hardenberger. He races ski's and is a captain at La Mesa fire. We practice at fiesta Island once or twice during the week from 4pm until dark starting next week. Since we are all licensed racers, the city allows us our own practice area and we can set up a track and train. The 10 time world champion grew up in El Cajon.
EDIT: Gary I'm not in that picture. I was at home with a broken leg for that race. hahaha stupid motorcycle!
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dickcilley
Social climber
Wisteria Ln.
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Mar 11, 2010 - 03:12pm PT
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Sounds great Greg .I'll bring the tapes. Dylan, Lou Reed, B52s etc.
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Mar 11, 2010 - 07:03pm PT
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Hi Elke, good to hear from you again too. And glad that you and Tom are still climbing.
Enjoy the reunion. I'll probably be doing ice climbs on Ben Nevis that weekend...
Cheers,
Paul
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C.K.
Social climber
Evergreen,CO
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Mar 11, 2010 - 09:36pm PT
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Having been e-mailed about the shindig a week ago,I spent the last week reading all the replies.Woodson has really stuck in the souls of so many,myself included.The history of the caretakers of Woodson is an interesting read.Seems to me the 70's and early 80's really were the people that built the character of Woodson.I started climbing at Woodson in the late 80's and one thing I remember at the beginning 20 yrs later was Donny Bedford and Dan Haugelstine showing me and my brother the climbs and Donny doing the climb I think was called go with the flow and a dyno with both hands coming off and the sound of his hands sticking a scoop.I remember thinking to myself wow that was cool how the hell'd he do that.Then one reply mentioned not moving rocks at the bottom of landings to avoid falling on them:that is Mt Woodson and its persona and its good to see some don't let that be forgotten.And the video of the guys on right longs crack was great.Ours guys were all there,high hopes and getting 5 ft up and upside down feet wedged in and going nowhere on it!The climbing at Woodson translated so well to other climbing areas no matter the type,especially when your base beginnings started at Woodson.Woodson was like surfing a break in front of your house maybe was not the best wave but you were out there with your buds and had it all to yourself and 20 some yrs later are some of the best memories of my life.Not in contact with the guys I climbed with in the late 80's and 90's I still think of them in the fondest way.Thats what Woodson brought to people a real lifelong kinship in the soul.Once a climber always a climber for me whether I'm climbing or not.The king of Woodson no question(not even close):Rick. Have fun be careful. Thanks to the guys that keep Woodson's character true. Chris Knuth
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2010 - 10:01pm PT
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Still wonder the whereabouts the Hatchet brothers...anyone?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 11, 2010 - 10:50pm PT
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Woodson was like surfing a break in front of your house maybe was not the best wave but you were out there with your buds and had it all to yourself and 20 some yrs later are some of the best memories of my life
so true. only i'd add it is one of the best breaks out there. if woodson's boulders were laid out on a flat wooded meadow instead of that hellacious uphill chaparral thicket, with nice on-site camping, it'd see as much traffic as josh or hueco or bishop. the bouldering there is absolutely stellar, but most of today's boulderers don't wanna deal with all that hiking.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2010 - 11:31pm PT
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That's what made us hardcore Woodson men, that darn hike up the hill lugging all our hardware and ropes with us! I use to combine roadbiking with swimming (50) laps in a (25) meter pool with/without fins on my hands and the same with floats between my knees along with that darn hike! No wonder I could do what I could back then! That hike is what probably keeps Woodson as pristine as it is today, thank God!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2010 - 11:51pm PT
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Just emailed you Ron.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 12:00am PT
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From "Painter's Pants, Ever Climb in Them?" post:
mooser: Most definitely (that's me in the middle). I even took my wife on our first date in painter's pants (to Woodson).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 12:02am PT
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That looks like Santee at the Layback Boulder or East Mudball, no?
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 12, 2010 - 12:37am PT
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I remember hearing about Chris K. soloing Uncertainty Principle back in the day...still makes me pucker. I think we hooked him up with rock boots back when i was at FiveTen but i don't recall if his solo was before or after. Anyone (i.e. Rick P.) ever repeat that feat? Plenty of guys had it super wired, but still--epic Woodson event. I think Chris mostly got the recollection of the vibe right too. But of course, there were the "pin scars" on "In the Pit", the glued and reglued knob (later a screw?) on Cool Jerk/Hairdo. Some other random bullsh#t. Remember when "someone" bolted Uncertainty!? Silly stuff. Mostly just good clean fun though. Weird to be seeing all that stuff so far back now...
Hey Donny, you should come up for some spring snowboarding and MX riding...I can hook you up with some friends who ride trail up here and we'll BBQ and talk stacks of sh#t. Maybe get Henny out of the dustbowl for a visit to watch that KP footage...was he always that afflicted by Moosehead, Henny? And thinking back to those times, I'm pretty sure Dave & Mike Orland & I all attended your wedding--either as straight up crashers or guests of guests (twice removed) of someone who was legitimately invited. Either that or it was a Todd Gordon party. Who can keep all this stuff straight after a while?
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 12, 2010 - 01:07am PT
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Earlier in this thread Donny posted:
There is a really good roof crack out by pala. I think you go up couser canyon road and it's on the east side. You have to climb a slab route to get to the roof. We took Rick Piggot up there and he onsight lead the roof. If I remember it was hands to thin hands and 25 ft long. I think he rated it 5.12something. If your driving south on I-15 and know where to look, you can see the roof in the east as your driving up the hill from the pala turnoff.
Anyway, here's the shot of that. I don't know if I posted that sometime a long ways back or not...love the Piggot standard: those North Face tights and a Metallica T-shirt always.
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Mar 12, 2010 - 01:15am PT
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Good to hear from Chris K.
Chris P, I used to go up uncertainty principle in my acics running shoes but was never man enough to solo the thing. Props to Chris K.
Spring snowboarding? I'm used to the dry powder that Utah has but I could maybe make a run up and hang out for a weekend. Do people still climb in the gorge? There is probably a hundred 5.10 and easier routes in there I haven't done yet. Maybe bring Henny along to get the TR set up for us. Leave KP in Josh, that's where he needs to stay. I have to check out Hennys ranch and see if I will need a tractor to make an MX track in the north forty.
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Mar 12, 2010 - 01:47am PT
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Good luck with that MX track thing. You'd be dodging cows, goats, chickens, cats, dogs, coyotes, deer, and kids. Wouldn't have to worry about me though, no way I'd ever get near you. You'd run my azz over on purpose. Feathers everywhere.
Sounds like we need to do something on the eastside.
Edit: Chris - looks like you have pictures you should be posting. That is classic Rick, eh? The man in black.
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 12, 2010 - 02:34am PT
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Yeah, Henny, that's pretty much ultramegaclassic Rick right there. With those 5.10/Verticals and the red 4". If I can make it down to this thing, I'm first heading over to Wilson's to get me some of that. I think the only harness I have left is an old Pulp Alpine...
I'll have to dig for more fotos. Lord knows where the slide pile is some 20 years hence. Funny how a kind of incidental thing acquires significance over time.
Nah, Donny, nobody climbs in The Gorge anymore, man. It's all about the 12-foot siege and spittlefest on a pile of foam at the MicroPenis boulders or whatever. Hell, I don't know. Yes. There's so much climbing up here it's just senseless. That's why I'm a runner now, man. Plus, beanies make my head look like Charlie Brown's. More so.
Well, open invite if you're ever rollin' through. Maybe I'll see you at the wingding if I can escape this way out backwoods hell!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 02:37am PT
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What about this story...any truth to it?
Rick Piggot was to solo Lie Detector for photos one day but the photographer never showed. Rick soloed it anyways!
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 12, 2010 - 02:42am PT
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I don't know about that one, but I heard that the "pin scars" on Widow Bereft were actually from Chuck Norris' first ascent--free solo.
I'm just sayin'...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 02:43am PT
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That Rick, man, he IS legend!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 03:02am PT
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I'm Rick James...hmmmm, suspicious?!
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iIIusiondweIIer
climber
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Mar 12, 2010 - 11:53am PT
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Does anyone have a fully naked picture of Ron?
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Mar 12, 2010 - 02:01pm PT
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edit: It's some jackass probably from joshua tree that isn't getting his own appreciation thread over here crying in his own way.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 12, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
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Nice video Josh.
I still haven't done Right Long's Crack since the flake at the bottom broke off. I've tried it just once and I'm pretty sure it'll go right side up (like I do Boulder 13). I only like to go upside down when falling.
Phantom X....Be there! (and bring Rita).
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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Mar 12, 2010 - 03:02pm PT
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Thanks,
I think that if you do it right, the inversion is really easy on RLC. That flake has been gone since I started playing around on that thing, so I can't even imagine what it used to be like. I assume it was easier? Boulder 13 is the next on my list of things to do out there. I hope to get on it during the Mt. Woodson Gathering. Maybe I'll try to bring some clippers.
Josh
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Mar 12, 2010 - 03:19pm PT
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eeyonkee,
I would love to see how the hell you do Right Long's without inverting...
I have a friend who is fairly close to being able to do it, but I can't really imagine anyone else contorting the way she is...
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 12, 2010 - 03:35pm PT
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I've got pretty big mitts, and I sort of stick my thumb out when making a fist to get started. Then it's armbarring. When I was out there in 2007, I tried it by myself, unroped and nearly got it. I'm in slightly better shape this year, so I'm hoping to send. I've never inverted.
edit. Seems to me that it was maybe 5.10c before the flake broke (or was carried away or whatever).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 04:14pm PT
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Well, here we are just about at the date and we have an imposter...sigh.
As you notice, my userid has been copied with some "minor" changes, (note the capital i's in place of the double L's) and is posting as me. They even had the gaul to copy me and my wife's picture. Chris MacNamara has been notified and hopefully something can be done. Meanwhile, enjoy the rest of the thread and see you at the Shindig!
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Doug Tomczik
climber
Bishop
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Mar 13, 2010 - 12:40am PT
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Johnny, here's what I was asking you about the other day:
Also, according to Mini, that crack in the corridor is "'In the Pit'. Got 'cleaned' and protected by Ray Olsen back in those days. I think Lidija the Pocket Russian did the FA."
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 13, 2010 - 12:55am PT
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My shots of In the Pit.
I don't really remember if that was the name that stuck, the working name, the final name...
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 13, 2010 - 01:03am PT
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Then of course, here's a very young Chris Lindner soloing Robbin's. Spotted by Tom and Rick Piggot. Kid was a freakin' honemaster at 4.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 13, 2010 - 02:50am PT
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holy mac, we are right around the corner from vicente, what's the fishin report?
spinner baits? shad minnows?
hey, can we have a spanish flamenco party?
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Mar 13, 2010 - 04:33am PT
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San Vicente is closed at this time. But it is being poached with a few catch and release locals. Spinners and drop shot are working best and pulling 3-7 pound bass.
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Mar 13, 2010 - 12:22pm PT
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Hey Mini, those are shots of Kim Worsman. There's another pic of her up thread on Retropulsion. So you must have climbed with Kim and Ed. I'm wondering if I know you. Guess I'll find out if you're at the shindig.
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Mini
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 13, 2010 - 01:15pm PT
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Hi Andy,
I ran the Mtn. Shop at Sport Chalet in Escondido around 88-90 or so, so we've most likely met, at a minimum. I remember an Andy Redding(?) We might've run into each other at Dixon too...the usual haunts. I did know Kim and Ed through the shop and on the hill, though i never really climbed with them outside of S.D. since they were more into the emerging sport climbing scene and i was more interested in the long trad stuff or following Ray O. through the bushes to find some unplucked gem (which i could never climb, but that was beside the point...) Hopefully old(er) faces will remember each other even if names have drifted away...
Chris P
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 13, 2010 - 01:45pm PT
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Locker, if you make it to the event.....look me up Friday afternoon,or Saturday. Would be GUD to see you. We gonna have some fun at the party afterwards, so hope like hell to see you. Yer buddy Lynne is gonna have a get together Saturday, bring some slander slides if you have time to dig some up. Hope yer well...how's yer beautiful daughter doin'?
Peace
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Mar 13, 2010 - 09:50pm PT
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Isn't this the boulder behind uncetainity principle?
I believe the route on the left had be soloed many times and the crack goes free, I think it was done by Dan Haughelstine.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 13, 2010 - 10:08pm PT
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Just a jealousy bump...Really wish I could be there with you kids...:(
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 13, 2010 - 10:32pm PT
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me too mike. we'll be thinking of you.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2010 - 01:30am PT
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Although Tonemapped in photomatix, I thought these were pretty cool...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2010 - 01:33am PT
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Mar 14, 2010 - 10:36am PT
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Hey Chris, you got the right Andy. I'm sure we crossed paths somewhere along the way. I used to leave xerox copies of a topo I made for Dixon on the counter at Stanley Andrews. Yeah, I tagged along with Kim and Ed for quite some time in the 80's and 90's.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2010 - 04:17pm PT
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Forecast is getting better...
Friday
Mostly sunny. Highs 71 to 76.
Saturday
Mostly sunny. Highs 73 to 78 in the western valleys
to 69 to 74 near the foothills.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2010 - 11:39pm PT
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A-16 comes thru with a $30 gift certificate and discounts.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2010 - 12:32am PT
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The Crucible...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 15, 2010 - 12:38am PT
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Will miss yo Anders. lrl
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2010 - 03:58am PT
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Lynne Leichtfuss get's post #2000!
Hey Lynne! Everything still "g.t.g." at your house for the party Saturday night?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 15, 2010 - 11:59am PT
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Hello everyone, and thanks for all the nice photos and stories. Sounds like a wonderful place to play, with good playmates - sorry I can't be there. Have fun!
Edit: ID gets post #2,000. Can you say "setup", boys and girls?
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Mar 15, 2010 - 12:35pm PT
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i'm out.
sorry.
have fun.
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Doug Tomczik
climber
Bishop
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Mar 15, 2010 - 01:15pm PT
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REIGN 1,
yep, it's just NW of uncertainty principle. thanks for the info. has the crack on the right been freed?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 15, 2010 - 01:20pm PT
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Damn Kerwin! Hey whada bout the Bridwell thing, you gonna be down for that?
Peace
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 15, 2010 - 01:22pm PT
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Hey Gary....haven't heard from you audio-visual guy yet!
Peace
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 15, 2010 - 03:28pm PT
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Everything is good to go for Saturday. I'm excited and looking forward. I think Dan and I had the very first Woodson Bouldering Contest Party at our home here bitd.
Bring slides or dvd's for the slanderfest. Remember Kevin Powell did that at his climbers reunion a few years back and it was hysterical.
If anyone has not yet emailed or called me for a tent space I may have a couple left. Also have room on the back patio if you have just an airmattress and sleeping bag.
There are two gas bbq's for those that want to cook.
BYOB....
Front deck has a great view of sunset, so try and get here before dark if you like that kinda thing.
So, good to go unless anyone has any other ideas or suggestions. Peace and Joy, lynnie
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 15, 2010 - 03:37pm PT
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IMPORTANT.....be kind to the neighbors by parking and driving responsibly. We have all manner of country stuff to be aware of:
Small children
Puppies
and Sprinklers for groves that yo need to look sharp for. Ron Gomez, 5.10, and myself will help direct parking.
It's green now, but we are in a fire hazard area with a firestation a mile away that tends to focus on the area around them.
If you like Cold H2o bring your suits and you can sunbath by the pool gals.
Ok, I think that's it. Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2010 - 04:20pm PT
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Hold on, hold on, lol, Lynne was post #2000...we must have bumped up one space after I deleted an earlier "bump" post, oh well...
Ron, I contacted the "AV" guy and left him a message to call you. Thanks Lynne and Ron for all you've done.
T-Shirts...If you ordered your t-shirt(s) before Friday the 12th I should have them for you at the Practice/Entrance Boulders on Friday and Saturday morning 0730 till noon. They'll also be available at the Vertical Hold Gym Friday night and at Lynne's Saturday night. If you didn't order them by the 12th they are still available online: http://www.shop.vershke.com/main.sc
Here's the itinerary that'll be handed out at the Practice/Entrance Boulders starting at 0700 Friday and Saturday morning. The times are just a guideline that I came up with so as to be able to leave and have time to make it to the post climb activities. What you want to do is up to you...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2010 - 04:27pm PT
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ATTENTION...THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON MT. WOODSON ROAD LOOP FOR THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD AND YOU WILL BE TOWED IF YOU PARK HERE!! PLEASE PARK ALONG HWY 67 ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES. THE SURFACE STREET ACROSS HWY 67 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
The List:
1. ? Rick Piggot
2. Greg Cameron aka Eeyonkee
3. BVB aka Bob Van Belle
4. ? Ron Kauk
5. Greg Epperson
6. Chris Lindner [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym], (http://chrislindner.com);
7. Jim Bridwell [Slide Show Friday evening, 7pm @ Vertical Hold Gym]
8. Off White
9. Salad
10. ? Phantom X
11. ? Zip
12. Adam Kimmerly (photographer)
13. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party, "The Slander Fest", Sat. March 20th)
14. Michael aka Oldcragger
15. Randy Vogel
16 - 17. Steve Grossman and Mimi
18. Gonamuck aka Ron Amick
19. Ron Gomez
20. Levi
21. Nathan Smith (http://www.pullphotography.com/);
22. mungeclimber
23. Jaybro
24. Josh Higgins (http://pullharder.org);
25. blr
26. Christian Griffith
27. Pam aka Shanti
28.
29. ScuffyB
30 - 31. Mr. & Mrs. Crusher
32. Bruckman
33. Jeff Leads - (Prana http://www.prana.com);
34. Bob D'Antonio
35. Dave Wonderly aka Tapes
36. Cragman
37. Dirt Claud aka Claudio
38. Sonja aka s.d.
39. Nick aka Gonzo Chemist
40. ? immanti
41. Eliot Carlsen
42. Gary aka illusiondweller (http://illusiondweller.blogspot.com);
43. Randy Leavitt
44. R Bolton
45. Steve Belford
46. Karen Roseme
47. Terry Upton
48. ? Keith Patterson
49. Kevin Powell aka Dimes
50. Dr. Sprock
51. Darrell Hensel aka henny (with psychiatrist)
52. M. Fisher
53. S. Girard
54. J. Campbell
55. Chris Kleppe (SDCC)
56. Erik (plumber)
57. Todd Gordon
58.
59. Alex (http://www.MEDIAwebStudios.com);
60. Mike (http://www.ClimbinCalifornia.com);
61. Pyrosis aka Tavis
62. Jeff Gicklhorn aka Seekthereason
63. James aka F10
64. ? Bluering
65. Tom Scott
66. GDavis
67. Dan Beal
68. ? Ed Hartouni
69. Andy Redding aka bajaandy
70. Porkchop_express
71. Chas
72. Johnny aka Johannsolo
73. Melissa
74. Schaffer
75. Nefarious
76. Tim
77. Jason
78. Gary Carpenter
79. "Mo" aka Reese Montana
80. Mo's brother
81. Matt
82. Dave Evans aka Dee ee
83. Tucker Tech
84. Diablo aka Jeff Almadovar
85. REIGN1 aka Donny Bedford
86. ? Roger Barnes
87. Dan Hauglestine
88.
89. Daphne
90 - 91. Tom and Elke Lindner
92. Klimmer
93. Gary Anderson
94. BeeHay aka Brad H.
95. Graham N
96. Dr. F
97. Shano aka Shannon Scott
98. jswan415
99. Jeff (SDCC)
100. Zach
101. Snowey aka Shay (http://pullharder.org);
102. et al (http://pullharder.org);
103. et al (http://pullharder.org);
104. ATS aka Adam Stackhouse
105. jaypg aka Jay G.
106. Scott Cole
107. ? Ken Klis
108. dmr aka Derek
109. Curt
110-111. Dave and Wife
112. ? T2
113. ? Bobby F
114. ? Sheik
115. Pointbrk
116. ? Eric
117. ? "My Pal Val"
118. Jake (#20 Levi's twin bro)
119. Angelina
120 - 122. Jerome, Wife, Son (Nathan)
123 - 124. Jeff Brown & Spouse
125. The Warbler aka Kevin Worrall
126. Lonnie Flores
127. Matt Beebe
128. ? Matisse (http://suehopkins.com/Site/Photos.html);
129. Billy
130. Gene
131. Steve Muse
132. dtomczik
133. Alex
134-135. Bob & Jasmine Hutchinson
136. Jordan
137. Mike aka "Hershey"
138. Colby (SDCC)
139. MisterE
140. Justthemaid
141. Chris Hubbard
142. Fabi
143. Andre
144. Anastasia Frangos Sherman
145. Bill Sherman
146. Sarah Alexander
147. Nightclub Dwight
148. Brenda Puff
149. I'm Rick James...
150. Hydra
151. Marc (USMC)
152. Jake (USMC)
153. Ryan "Tom-Tom" (USMC)
154. A.J. (USMC)
155. ? Allenby
156. Tom Gibson
157-158. Scott & Robyn Erle
159. Larry Groff (Artist/Painter http://larrygroff.com);
160. Ben, Ramona
161. Tanya B.
162. ? C. Kikilia
163. ? Jay Richardson, Vista
164. ? Gordy Schafer, San Marcos
165. BEN
166. Randy
167. Joe
168. ? Russ
169. Jay (Solid Rock Gym, Poway)
170. Splater aka Tom Donnely
171. Phil (California Night 03/13/10)
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Lodging Options:
1. Lynne Leichtfuss (Hosting Post Climb Party Sat. March 20th. Camping on Lynne's property is available. Please confirm via email!)
2. Jeff aka Salad has tent camping and a few rooms. Contact him via email by clicking on his username in the thread.
3. Dos Picos Park, Ramona, CA - Some spaces still available.
http://bit.ly/6n2U8U
4. Dixon Lake, Escondido, CA. - Tent Camping available. Call for reservations:
http://bit.ly/7hU7GB
1700 La Honda Drive
Escondido, CA 92027
(760) 741-3328
5. Santee Lakes RV Campground - some tent sites available
http://santeelakes.com/campsitemap.html
6. Poway Hotels -
http://bit.ly/6o9htK
7. Ramona Hotels -
http://bit.ly/caaQsl
8. Escondido Hotels -
http://bit.ly/cxZlCP
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 15, 2010 - 05:33pm PT
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Illusion Dweller, please save me a poster. People are welcome to come here anytime pretty much in the afternoon say after 3pm if you get burnt out climbing and want to kick back, if it's warm hang at the pool. If you wait til 7pm and there's a great sunset......you will have missed it :D Peace and Joy. lynnie
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2010 - 06:16pm PT
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Will do Lynne
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2010 - 11:35pm PT
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Nathan Smith gets Liberty Mountain to donate (1) Edelweiss rope, (1) Singing Rock Harness and Cypher Chalkbags!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2010 - 11:49pm PT
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T-shirts being Expressed Mailed to me.
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Mar 16, 2010 - 02:21am PT
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Random Photos from last weekend and beyond.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2010 - 03:54am PT
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Great pictures Eliot, thanks for keeping this alive down to the wire!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 16, 2010 - 04:14am PT
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Just had to post that that was a lovely shot of the splitter, Eliot. Maybe someone's girl and I meant no disrespect, just pretty...
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 16, 2010 - 12:22pm PT
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Dick Cilley. Where ya gonna be at Thursday evening? I can't very well just drive all over JT looking for you now, can I?
Edit. OK, nevermind. I got your email
And sorry IllusionDweller for not responding to your email. I'd completely forgot to look at that email account for a few weeks now.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2010 - 01:04pm PT
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T-Shirts ordered by March 12th are being Express Mailed to me now. They will be available at the Shindig Friday and Saturday morning 0700 till noon and then at the Vertical Hold Gym Friday, and at the "Slander Fest" at Lynne Leichtfuss' house, both starting at 1900. You can still order shirts and they will be mailed to you.
http://www.shop.vershke.com/main.sc
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2010 - 01:07pm PT
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Here's the itinerary that'll be handed out at the Practice/Entrance Boulders starting at 0700 Friday and Saturday morning. The times are just a guideline that I came up with so as to be able to leave and have time to make it to the post climb activities. What you want to do is up to you...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2010 - 01:27pm PT
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Eliot,
Where's that big ol' slab?
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eliot carlsen
Social climber
San Diego
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Mar 16, 2010 - 02:05pm PT
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Thanks Watusi, I like that photo too.
Gary, that's Starface.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 17, 2010 - 01:49am PT
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Sorry I havent replied, I havent had time lately to be online. I will be honest with you gary, Im a happily married man and in fact March 20th will be my 28th anniversary. I am also pretty old fashioned in that I dont think I even have any naked pics of myself, but dont be disappointed, if you saw any you would almost certainly wish you hadnt.
It takes alot of guts to come to terms with ones sexuality in such a public forum, especially in light of the stigma wrongly attached to alternative lifestyles. From what Ive read, repressed sexuality takes a terrible toll on the psyche, so keep up the good fight.
Hopefully the day will come when tolerance and understanding triumph over the hate and fear that unjust social proscriptions generate, and i think you have helped to bring such a day a little bit closer.
If I can be of any help on a platonic level, you have my number.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 17, 2010 - 02:17am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2010 - 03:36am PT
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Mt. Woodson Is a Top Spot for Bouldering
March 26, 1992|DAVID SHAUGHNESSY
Bouldering is a popular variety of rock climbing, and North County is the home of one of the finest bouldering sites in the state. A prominent ridge studded with thousands of huge boulders, Mt. Woodson is northeast of Poway off California 67.
Parking is on the shoulder of 67, and climbers walk a quarter mile or so on Mt. Woodson Road to get to the boulders, which cover the entire point. "It's like someone spilled a bag of giant marbles," said Brian McInerny, a longtime climber who took his first rock-climbing class there in 1972.
Climbers first come across two relatively small practice boulders, which are but 8 or 10 feet high. Climbers can warm up on the smaller boulders or practice certain techniques that they will need when they tackle the larger ones, which rise out of the ground like towers, many more than 30 feet tall.
Two of the largest, most popular boulders are known, in fact, as Tower No. 1 and Tower No. 2, and others have names like Mother Superior, the Cave, Ogre and Marshmallow Tower.
There is even a pocket handbook called Mt. Woodson Bouldering, which has locations, difficulty ratings and descriptions of most of the routes that climbers attempt on each of the boulders.
The routes are usually barely noticeable, with only the remnants of chalk dust, or some fixed bolts for the climbers to tie into to mark them. Routes may be based on the smallest of cracks, or the scantiest of footholds.
"Mt. Woodson is a Mecca for all Southern California climbers," said Tim Johnson, a Navy flight officer who lives in Ramona. "It has every type of crack climbing and face climbing. It ranges from easy problems to the most difficult you can imagine."
On larger rocks, where there's a chance of a fall, climbers employ a technique called belaying, using ropes and carabiners (metal loops) to anchor themselves against a fall.
"You can always challenge yourself at Mt. Woodson," said McInerny. "There will always be something harder to do."
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2010 - 03:39am PT
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Gotta love this one, lol...
"Rumors that Piggot, unhappy about the initial construction of the microwave antenna farm on the summit, released rattlesnakes on top which he had captured elsewhere are probably just that: rumors."
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2010 - 04:20am PT
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A vintage story taken from Premium Miniatures
By Bob Van Belle
"Climbers began visiting Woodson long ago, but the early days of the 1960's are
shrouded in the mists of prehistory. One story involves Royal Robbins. It seems he
was being given a tour of the hill by the resident hardmen of the day. Spotting an
obvious 25-foot hand crack, Robbins made a discreet inquiry and was told that yes,
the crack was indeed a fine aid climb; not surprisingly, he made short work out of
it. The Robbins Crack (5.10a) is now one of Woodson's truly classic lines and the
outstanding climb of the period."
Climbing 112, February 1989
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2010 - 04:50am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2010 - 04:52am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2010 - 04:54am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2010 - 05:02am PT
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(5) Day Forecast for Ramona...
Wednesday 79° F | 47° F Clear
Thursday 72° F | 45° F Clear
Friday 70° F | 43° F Clear
Saturday 76° F | 43° F Clear
Sunday 74° F | 41° F Clear
Is it really going to be this pretty?
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 17, 2010 - 06:22am PT
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Hope so brother! You put a lot of heart into this!!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2010 - 04:18pm PT
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T-Shirts ordered by March 12th are being Express Mailed to me now, arriving tomorrow. They will be available at the Shindig Friday and Saturday morning 0700 till noon and then at the Vertical Hold Gym Friday, and at the "Slander Fest" at Lynne Leichtfuss' house, both starting at 1900. You can still order shirts and they will be mailed to you.
http://www.shop.vershke.com/main.sc
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Mar 17, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
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Man, just checked out the thread again. Looks like the Reunion's going to be a major event. Really wish I could make - I miss the good old days of soloing at Woodson.
And not to split hairs, but those old photos of Jaws and Driving South were indeed of me, and I just found an earlier Eppi shot in the sequence:
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Mar 17, 2010 - 04:42pm PT
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Mar 17, 2010 - 04:50pm PT
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But at least I've found a Woodson substitute - Northumberland. This shot's from last summer. Got a new chalkbag and some trendier shorts, but still haven't cut my hair.
Anyway, cheers, and keep on climbin' all you good people.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2010 - 08:16pm PT
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That's beautiful Paul, just beautiful!
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 17, 2010 - 09:08pm PT
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Yeah, way cool Paul!! Looks like you've still got it going!!:)
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 17, 2010 - 10:11pm PT
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I may have missed this...but is there any decent Mexifood in Poway? Or nearby?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 17, 2010 - 10:14pm PT
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Hey Ron, congratulations on the 28th anniversay! I hit 30 this November with my wife. Wish you'd come on out and join in, you are one of the local masters and it would be cool to get most you guys together for a GOOD time. Look me up if you come out, would be good to meet you, we can pound a beer or two with Bolton and the rest of us.
Peace
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Mar 18, 2010 - 12:35am PT
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Gary, the rattlesnake story is sorta true. Rick would save the snakes from being killed on job sites( he was a framer) and take them to woodson and let them go. They are good at keeping the rodent population from getting out of control.
Anybody hear if Carmel is going to be there?
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matisse
climber
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Mar 18, 2010 - 12:38am PT
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I really doubt it. I told her about the last one, she's tied up being a mom these days.
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 18, 2010 - 12:46am PT
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I misplaced her contact info. I asked the same thing awhile back.
Hope she knows about it. Ran into her at Glen Denny's slideshow. She has kids and a family now so she may have other plans. Doing great. Hadn't seen her since 1987.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2010 - 01:39am PT
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Mexifood in Poway? This is SoCal Mimi, are you kidding? Where ISN'T there decent Mexican food in Southern California?! My Mom and Stepdad live in Poway and their favorite is El Comal (excellent food) just east of Pomerado Road on the south side of Poway Rd. There's another less formal, sitdown place called MexiCocina (excellent food) just west of Pomerado Rd also on the south side of Poway Rd. I hope this helps.
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 18, 2010 - 01:46am PT
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I know. It's hard to mess up Mexican food. I have to inquire about the local best post-Woodson feast spot. I want a tomatillo cilantro hot chile killer salsa enchiheaven scratch Ritas combo platter.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2010 - 01:55am PT
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All photo's by: CHARLIE NEUMAN / Union-Tribune
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2010 - 02:00am PT
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Didn't know you spoke spanglish Mimi?
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 18, 2010 - 02:17am PT
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Ha! Is that what that is? My stomach often speaks for me. Especially after a day of craggin.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2010 - 02:24am PT
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Alcoa...
Cornflake...
Photo's: alliedclimbers.com/cgallery
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 18, 2010 - 02:27am PT
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hey, what would be a good top 5 climbs for the total non previous visitor?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2010 - 02:28am PT
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Dragon...
Elsa's Crack...
Photo's: alliedclimbers.com/cgallery
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2010 - 02:31am PT
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Edit: Top (5) Must Do climbs:
I Hear My Train A Comin'
Uncertainty Principle
Robbin's Crack
Phd
Hard As Nails
Rockwork Orange
There are so many to choose from but I picked these only because of their iconic status and aesthetic nature.
Edit: I guess I can't count either!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2010 - 04:10am PT
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Jaws...
Karl's Error...
Photo's: alliedclimbers.com/cgallery
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2010 - 04:14am PT
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Mantle...
Tom Donnely (aka Splater) on Phd...
Photo's: alliedclimbers.com/cgallery
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2010 - 04:27am PT
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El Comal
12845 Poway Rd
Ste 307
(between Carriage Rd & Carriage Heights Way)
Poway, CA 92064
(858) 486-1010
MexiCocina
12213 Poway Rd
Poway, CA 92064
(858) 748-6452
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Mar 18, 2010 - 11:08am PT
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best food in Ramona.
Ramona market Small grocery/liquor store next to chevron On main.
Just down the road from Woodson is Dannel's west they got pizza and beer.
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 18, 2010 - 02:38pm PT
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We are here!!!! This trip is going to be awesome!
The MexiCocina is right across the street from the motel. We're headed there now and then up the road for some climbing. We'll try the other place next.
The weather is beyond stellar!
Looking forward to seeing the hordes!
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 18, 2010 - 05:14pm PT
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sik its comin alive!
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Mar 18, 2010 - 06:35pm PT
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For those who did not get in on the shirt pre-orders... you can still have one delivered to your front door! They came out looking FANTASTIC!
http://www.vershke.com
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Mar 18, 2010 - 10:15pm PT
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Are there gonna' be any real climbers there?
Well, I heard somethin' about slander.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 18, 2010 - 10:43pm PT
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Dee ee......there will be at least 4 REAL climbers that I know of;.....Tucker Tech, Dave Evans, Todd Gordon, and Jim Bridwell.....as for the rest;.......who knows.......gym climbers, posers, has-beens, poofters, punters, wannabees, n00bs, beefers, bunwads, periwinkle-pated fellows, plastic pullers, flaggers, Starbucks drinking sportos, Euro-trash, Orange County yuppie goats, pebble-wrestlers, lycra-clad submen, belaymen, Gordobots, fluffboys, girliemen, hikers, dummy dome slabbers, figure four gymnasts, metrosexual flash-in-the-pan home-slice flamers........(In other words....guys like you and I are toast this weekend....)...see ya there...
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Mar 18, 2010 - 10:50pm PT
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^^This is but a a sampling of the characters that have passed through the Gordon house.
See you guys there! :)
Erik & Skip
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 18, 2010 - 10:58pm PT
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Can someone re-post the info on the slide show Chris Lindner / Jim Bridwell thing that is going down tomorrow night at a San Diego climbing gym........it's tomorrow night at 7PM....and I think Lynne Leichtfuss is driving us there.....but details at this time on this forum would be nice....thanks....( the thread is too long to find specific information...)....see you then...
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F10
Trad climber
e350 / Bishop
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Mar 18, 2010 - 11:02pm PT
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I am sure illusiondweller will bump it shortly
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 18, 2010 - 11:34pm PT
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That would be Vertical Hold at 9580 Distribution Ave. San Diego, CA 92121
Phone # 858-586-7572. Just talked to them minutes ago. They are jazzed to have Jim and Chris Linder there and from 7-9pm no climbing just the Linder/Bridwell Slideshow.
If yo coming from North County take 15 south to Miramar ROAD, not Way. Go west or right on Miramar Road past a giant pyramid building on right. Just after this look for Distribution Ave. and make a right. The climbing gym will be on the left. See you all there. Smiles, lynnie
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 18, 2010 - 11:53pm PT
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Cool, thanks Lynne!
Peace
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Mar 19, 2010 - 12:16am PT
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Rumour has it that Lynne's party is going to go off. I heard one person per number of posts, standing room only.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2010 - 12:48am PT
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Well, before I post the itinerary, which everyone will get as you head up the moutain Friday and Saturday morning, I have to share with all of you what I got treated with today on the mountain...I'm speechless to say the least...
I initailly met up with Chris Lindner and his friend Nate on the trail in, to the paved road. Chris had visions of making it up to Kurtains for Certain but I deviated straight for I Hear My Train A Comin' to work on the ground start for which I was getting close to linking.
What came next was jaw dropping...
Not only did Chris effortlessly float up the ground start on a TR but came back down and asked if a sit start had ever been done. I told him that, to my knowledge, it's never been done but told him I've looked at the holds down there and figured that it might be possible for some freak of nature some day. Well, this is when I realized that this very monster was sitting in front of me! I watched Chris onsight the sit start which, well, I'm just going to let another witness the sequence tomorrow or Saturday, and then continued to the top unroped! Btw, I did progress past the crux on the ground start and eventually through in the stone start but not after taking off a few flappers in the process, for what it's worth!
To continue, we headed back down to Aids Victim in which Chris made short work of and then repeated it to figure out a more efficient sequence. After this we headed up to Retropulsion where Chris repeated it in style, then again, proceeded to throw in a sit start to this as well!
We finished down at Hard As Nails where I actually got an opportunity to succeed at something. Ever see the backside of H.A.N.? Chris has his eye on this and want's to do a direct start on Rock The Boat, yes, a direct start below the third bolt! Stay tuned!
I may be behind the times but I now know that NOTHING is impossible these days! And, of course no camera to document any of it! Wait until you see him yourself, unbelievable!
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 19, 2010 - 03:53am PT
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Thanks Ron! Congrats on your anniversary as well. Look for me on the hill - Ill be the old guy with little hair and a beer. Hmm that doesnt really narrow it down, does it.
c ya
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 19, 2010 - 03:56am PT
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And well well well... its the todd gordon, and it SPEAKS! See ya soon bud :D
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 19, 2010 - 09:30am PT
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HHummmm, Ron and Ron, old guys with little hair and both drinking beers. Twin sons from different mothers! I'll be asking around for you!
Peace
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 19, 2010 - 11:57am PT
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yeah the party is gonna be outta control. pretty my entire high school class is gonna be there as well as about 30 of my skater bros. sik!!
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rich sims
Trad climber
co
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Mar 19, 2010 - 12:44pm PT
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Wish I could have come.
I was going to pull the trigger and fly today.
Yesterday all the dominos were falling that way.
A call early this morning tipped the scale !
My daughter is having my first grandchild (daughter) today.
Be well ....enjoy
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 19, 2010 - 12:46pm PT
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WOOT! congrats!!!
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Mar 19, 2010 - 01:00pm PT
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BES1'st, That pic is of PHD at woodson. It's rated 5.12.a It is on the north side of the hill with homes visible below.
The thin red line is on cyclops rock and is harder in my opinon. If I remember right the line follows a faint reddish dike and PHD follows a thin seam.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 19, 2010 - 01:13pm PT
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Rich to say the least....you will have a MUCH better time with Mom and the grandchild! Congratulations and enjoy! We'll toast a few to you.
Peace
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 19, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
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back on page 1 bump
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Mar 19, 2010 - 02:58pm PT
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We're on our way! See you dadz down there!
WooHoo!
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Mar 19, 2010 - 03:29pm PT
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Headed down after work today. Let the games begin!
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 19, 2010 - 03:30pm PT
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sweet E. drop me a line when you are heading to the house.
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Cantholditdown
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 19, 2010 - 03:42pm PT
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Do they have a BBQ fired up selling hotdogs or burgers? Too lazy to cook lunch
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Mar 19, 2010 - 06:16pm PT
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someone really needs to post hourly updates from an iPhone....
who sent what, or who has the best smack-talk of the hour, etc...
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 19, 2010 - 06:19pm PT
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id volunteer but ima gonna be to damn busy doing laps on bvb's projects, in my sneaks, with a beer in hand and cig in mouth.
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dmr
Social climber
Carlsbad, CA
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Mar 19, 2010 - 07:01pm PT
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If anyone is adept at removing graffiti, the Jaws/Baby Robbins area could use your help. Huge amounts of purple paint all over the area, especially on "I Would Die for You". It was clean yesterday. It really spoiled the area. Sad.
Also, the rattlesnakes have thawed out from the winter cold... a tiny one was hanging out behind Girl's Climb
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Mar 20, 2010 - 01:23am PT
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climbed at mission gorge and santee today
so sore
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 20, 2010 - 02:48am PT
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Nasty about the graffiti...:(
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 20, 2010 - 02:49am PT
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slide show was cool, mr e and skip have arrived and we had a nice time in the garage tonight. just got back from a late nite skate and looking forward to getting my fat outta shape ass skooled tmrw.
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Mar 20, 2010 - 10:14am PT
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Hiked up the hill after work Friday. Met Bruce at the "gate" and picked up my tee shirt. Further up the hill heard voices in the bushes and decided to check it out. Found a group at Jaws. Got to meet Ed, Steve, Jaybro and Daphne, (and I'm sorry but I forgot the name of my brother in ruptured Achilles...). Anywho, I watched as they all sent Jaws. Not my cup of tea to warm up on, so around the back to play on something easy, Baby Robbins. Now that's my speed. Oh, and Cornflake. I could handle that. Went back when no one was looking (I hope!) and flailed on the opening moves of Jaws. A bit later Illusiondweller walked in and said hello on his way down the hill. (Nice to meet you Gary.) Bid my adieu to the group and headed on up to the top. Not a lot of action within sight of the road, but I saw a couple of climbers headed down the hill. Will be back up there today around 1:00. Looking forward to it!
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 20, 2010 - 10:21am PT
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We are also on our way! Yeah! The fact that Bill had to work all night so we can go blows me away. Nothing says dedicated climber than one that will forget to sleep in order to climb.
AFS
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 21, 2010 - 04:36am PT
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Hangin' in the wings just waitin' for some pics...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2010 - 05:49am PT
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Wow, everyone made it happen! Thanks again! I'm going to bed now for the next (24) hrs I think.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 21, 2010 - 08:14am PT
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Right on Gary!! I knew it would be a great success! Just sorry I couldn't see it...
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Mar 21, 2010 - 11:29am PT
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[photoid=150299]
Gary thank you for planing such a awesome day! Thank God for the opportunity to climb with such awesome people.
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snowey
Trad climber
San Diego
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Mar 21, 2010 - 12:13pm PT
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Hey Gary.
Thank you so much for putting this together. We had a great time out there. Beer was cold, people were friendly, and the climbing was hard.
Just discovered new scrapes all the way up my forearm (Damn you bat crack!!!)
-Shay
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 21, 2010 - 12:42pm PT
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Here's some stuff of the boys and girls mostly hanging out.
Peace
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Gary Carpenter
climber
SF Bay Area
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Mar 21, 2010 - 01:08pm PT
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A couple more photos from Saturday
Talking S*it
Ed Mike & Scuffy
ScuffyB Mother Superior
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2010 - 05:02pm PT
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Woke up on my own at 10:00! Could swear it was going to be atleast 1400 when I looked at the clock! I guess those early morning wake ups converted me somewhat...
I can't wait to see Nathan's pictures of this thing...that should be pretty cool. Keep posting the pictures up!
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Mar 21, 2010 - 05:55pm PT
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Just got back - had a great time! Really great to meet some new people and see old friends! Special thanks to Gary and Lynne for putting such a great effort into this event! Ed Hartouni's slideshow on Saturday was hilarious!
Edit: sorry, Ron - I am new. Thanks for yours and anyone else's input I may have overlooked in my n00bness. Thanks, all - it was a great time.
Here's some pictures
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2010 - 06:02pm PT
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Mr. Ron Amick,
Just wanted to say thank you for the kind greeting at the bottom of the hill, really.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2010 - 06:45pm PT
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Lynne's house was above and beyond...it really was! You provided a very comfortable and peaceful atmosphere Lynne. Thanks for the wonderful food you prepared and for the delicious oranges, thanks again! The speech you gave was priceless, thank you for being transparent, you're making a difference in many lives. Keep on sharing our purpose here on this earth. Thanks Ron Gomez for all your help and to Ed Hartouni for the entertainment, I may have forgotten to mention that.
I just spoke to photographer Nathan Smith at 1500. He's on the road going through Vegas on his way back home to SLC. My friend and consumate helper during the event, Doug, said, "Nathan has the patience and dilegence of Job with his photography. He's the quiet giant." I couldn't agree more! Doug, I hope my little four year old, Jordan, wasn't too much for you to handle. Watching him was invaluable! Mr. Doll and Jeff, I appreciate your help too.
My gratitude continues to Mr. Dan Henderson for the use of his gym for the multimedia presentations. Jules and Kenna, you did a great job as well, be sure to thank and all your workers for their assistance too. Alex Dikowski, you did a great job with the design of the posters, flyers and at the gym with the audio video work, that was awesome. Mr. Bridwell, and Chris Lindner, thanks for your wisdom and talents, what a treat.
Steve Belford, thanks for absorbing the costs for the shipping of the Climbing Magazines at the the entrance and for your ideas. It's always nice to see you after all these years. Terri Upton, I'll get out to Eagle Peak one of these days, I promise! Can't wait to see the photo's of b.i.t.d.!
I had to interrupt a young couple at Painted Boulder at the end of the day, Saturday, to ask for their help in retrieving my rope and gear down from atop the Uncertainty Principle boulder. I hope that turned out to be a good and safe experience for you both, thank you.
I keep re-reading this and I know I've left someone out, but my thanks go out to you too. To anyone I may have offended, it wasn't intentional. I would hope, at our age, we can move on. All in all it was a great ride.
Glory to God!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 21, 2010 - 06:55pm PT
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Cilley start to big grunt
Having an epic day. At dixon lake currently.surely it will betterwhen weclimb into my 20yr old, 200k mile cargoes 500 miledrive
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Mar 21, 2010 - 06:58pm PT
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yeah, scuffY! Mother Superior! calf lock king doin right!
rad, wish I could have gone.
BVB, you got your dreads back. suave bro
Where's the salad?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 21, 2010 - 07:22pm PT
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Got Oak?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 09:12pm PT
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It truly was an Awesome Event. Thanks Gary for putting it all together. It takes much work to make things Happen. This was worth it. Blessings to yo Bro !
The unwashed masses (Kidding totally, all guests were better looking and more behaved than most of the guests at the White House.) began to arrive at the Leichtfuss Casa Thursday Eve.
A few of us ..... Todd Gordon, Tucker Tech, Jim Bridwell, lucky-lucky me and Sarah climbed Friday a.m. at Dixon Lake. Sweet place and nice rock.
I found out Friday nite at the Vetical Hold Gym Media Event that our very own Tucker has been on the Cover of Climbing Magazine ...... Twice. Wow! He's such a humble Dude......and he is making every attempt to help me learn to climb. Can you Imagine ? Oh Tucker, thank you :DD
Tucker Tech
Tucker, usually leading and always pulling hard.
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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Mar 21, 2010 - 09:39pm PT
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Regarding the graffiti up near Jaws/Baby Robbins, I'll see if I can't get a crew up there to work on it. I believe that ACSD has some spray paint remover that's environmentally friendly. It takes more work, but there's no nasty chemicals in it. I've done spray paint removal up there before. If anyone wants to join ACSD or even just donate, it's an awesome group. Check out:
http://www.alliedclimbers.org
Josh
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 09:48pm PT
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Sarah, a new friend from No. Cal. I tried to capture the "pixie glitter" on her eyelids.
Sarah and I learned abit about the fun of crack climbing Friday......:D
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2010 - 10:05pm PT
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Okay, it makes more sense now...those picture's of Tucker and Sarah are at Lake Dixon, not Woodson! I couldn't figure out what Woodson route's those were!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 10:11pm PT
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And then there was the honor of having Mr. Bridwell as a house guest. Awesome! I don't think I'd ever met the maestro of rock in person before.
He's lived some life.....and is still living, thinking, moving and creating on this planet.
In some respects, to me, he epitomizes the essence of the sport and the life of the rock. So many incredible accomplishments....yet not a problem for him to spend a day on the rock with the likes of lynnie. A few succinct sentences taught me more than I would figure out in a year and keep me from some pretty horrific problems.
Blessings to yo always Sir........
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 10:25pm PT
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And then there's Gordo. Author, mover and shaker ......and poor mon, one of lynnie's mentor's. His love and enthusiasim always moves you up at least one level when you're on the rock. The people I've met while revolving around Todd's planet is amazing :D And they're all great !
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 21, 2010 - 10:30pm PT
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had a great time! not too many people on sunday, so i bailed a little early.
got some pics, hold on...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 10:33pm PT
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Let the Party Begin :D
Pepper and Salt....Anastasia and I. Happy to see each other. Our road trips are not over. Husband Bill is helping us to make another happen this summer.
Kelly and Ron Gomez who were so instrumental in helping Gary pull this great Gig together and make it work.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 10:53pm PT
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Hi Anders ! Will I be seeing Yo at Todd's in April ?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 11:03pm PT
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Pics of Event Attenders.....
Uhhhh, and yes we ate well. :D
Kevin Worrall (L) and Dick Cilley having fun reminiscing.....Guys, thanks for coming! You both had to drive quite a bit to get to the Casa out in the middle of oranges, but everyone that took time out of their lives to make it happen created the chemistry of an evening people will never forget. :D
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 21, 2010 - 11:05pm PT
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I'm hoping to be there. Looking at flights is on the to-do list for this week. If I make it, it'll be for 5 - 6 days, to get some exercise in.
Edit: What is Grug doing with his finger?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 11:16pm PT
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ok Anders, I'm lookin' forward and praying it will work. We miss yo here. Especially last night. lynnie
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 11:20pm PT
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Left to Right ...... Josh, Sarah and Todd G.
Tucker looks really at home buried in the leather chair. :D
Dang, we have the nicest people show up in the family of rock. On far right in blue shirt is Bob from Allied Climbers of San Diego. He drove all the way to this remote outpost to support the climbing community. Bob also was instrumental in my first ..... all by myself ......attendance of the Climbers Club meeting. I went alone and sweating it out when I got there. But Bob and friend graciously invited me to sit at their table. Peace to Yo always for your kindness Dude.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 21, 2010 - 11:33pm PT
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this guy don't mess around, solo up to tie off, dr. jay>
i said"who's the guy dressed like a surgeon?"
well, when Scruffy got in that crack, he operated on that rock like a surgeon, i ain't kidin, the big grunt>
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2010 - 11:37pm PT
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Nathan Smith's picture's will be posted in about a week. He said a link will be posted on Supertopo when he's got them up.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 21, 2010 - 11:49pm PT
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Nathan Smith is an awesome person and a creative photographer. I'm excited to see what he captured. Until then.....
Mimi and Steve Grossman. What fun. Love them. Peace and thanks for adding to the event. lynnie
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 22, 2010 - 12:19am PT
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A man that knew Dan, bvb....Thanks for taking the time to come up to the casa.
A Great picture of the Linder's and Gomez's..........
Gary McCay made it come down.....Big Thanks Dude !!! Gary's raffling off the last of the great gear that was donated for this Fun Event.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 12:33am PT
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if you asked walt disney to build you a boulder park, mt woodson would be it, a short, steep access road leads you thru a plethora of boulders,
by far, all the best problems here are cracks, there are hundreds of them!
big ones, small ones, in between ones, flare out, flare in, sideways cracks, you name it.
i think the road builders were also rock climbers, because they took the road right thru the best problems!
Animal Mike, this guy, watchin him operate is like watching a hungry linebacker attack a steak dinner, i mean,...this finger traverse was done in 3.1 seconds, i kid you not>
made this look like a walk in the park>
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Mar 22, 2010 - 12:37am PT
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Lynne,
I fully intended to come out, but we was just havin' too much fun on the Mountain. The were about 10 of us at Test Tube/Crucible late, by the time we had some much needed Mex food in Poway, we would have been rolling into Valley Center at about 10PM!
Thanks for hosting those bums anyway. I see some of the bad kids managed to sneak in, I hope you locked up your valuables.
Brad
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 22, 2010 - 12:47am PT
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Brad, missed yo and others, but the "kids" were the best as was the evening. Anytime the rest of you want to wander out here you are welcome. Smiles and much Peace, lynnie......and thanks for saying howdy :D
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 22, 2010 - 12:54am PT
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Dimes (kp) wondering if he'll ever get to eat .....:D
More Woodson Gig Friends......
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oldcragger
Trad climber
Truckee,CA
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Mar 22, 2010 - 01:15am PT
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Mt. Woodson is a special place and a memorable part of my climbing from many years ago. I had a great time climbing there again and meeting so many new friends. Thanks to everyone involved.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 22, 2010 - 01:23am PT
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Serious Jazz to see people having fun .....CC rocks (climbing community)
Left to right....Steve Grossman, Jim Bridwell and Kevin Worrall.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 01:51am PT
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the "High" point of the trip for me was smoking a bowl with Bridwell after i lost my lighter and needed a light,
he was walking down the access road, puffin on a cig and talkin it up at the same time, down there somewhere>
i caught Jaybro pulling off some weird, reverse horizontal dyno, with a half twist, three cushion into the corner pocket" move, back there with Mad Mike>
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 22, 2010 - 02:04am PT
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Looks like a great time was had by all!!:) Cheers for the pics!!!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 22, 2010 - 02:08am PT
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Yeah, Jay is a wee bit "twisted". :D
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 02:20am PT
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if an Apache Indian crawled out of those rocks with a bow and arrow,
i would not even do a double take.
but, being up there during a first class earthquake,
would be like being a bowling pin in an alley with 1000 giant balls!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 22, 2010 - 02:22am PT
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What is the geological/geomorphological reason for the existence of such an uusual landform? Similar to Joshua Tree, or?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 02:32am PT
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looks like Martians arranged them.
here is Mad Mountain Mike gettin ready to do the Topout Boogie
now if you run out of stuff on the front side, check out the back porch>
this guy was "boulder baggin" on sunday>
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Mar 22, 2010 - 02:39am PT
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All I can figure is that I somehow fell in with the wrong crowd late Friday morning. People seemed to be jumping into the Big Grunt and actually enjoying it. What was with that? I had to go elsewhere before any of that non-sense could rub off on me, otherwise I was afraid I might get delerious and try MS.
It was a pleasure to meet people and put real faces to the names.
Watusi, it sure would have been nice if you could have made it. A lot of people wished they could have seen/met you.
Thanks to Tripper and son for bringing up the cold beverages and sharing them with everybody.
Cool seeing some of the woodson homeys again that used to school me. Now I've been to your house so you owe me one...I hear Rubidoux is nice this time of year. Or maybe when we finish our problem at woodson we'll simply call it "Rubidoux Raiding Party" or "Welcome to Rubidoux". Yeah, that's the ticket...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 02:53am PT
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there is a 360 degree view up there, airports, horse ranches, movie stars, swimmin pools, and crack>
The Sail. i hiked out there and that thing is bigger than it looks.
and steeper.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 22, 2010 - 03:04am PT
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Yeah Henny, really would have loved to have been there!! Now just have to live it vicariously through all of you guy's cool pics!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 03:21am PT
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Marshmellow>
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Mar 22, 2010 - 03:22am PT
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TV Screen. Broadcasting live from Woodson. In high definition.
(nice scenics)
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 03:28am PT
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Daphnae does a full tork dyno up to the finger ledge>
Jaybro is stunned in disbelief>
this guy got a little too close to the power lines,
his hair caught on fire and he went over the brink,screaming like a banchee,
cracks everywhere ya look>
if i can get a couple of hydraulic jacks underneath this big mama,
then we can have a trundle party supreme.
maybe clear out the runway ramp so it can get going,
drill it and re inforce it with concrete and re bar so it does not break up,
i bet it would easily reach hwy 67 and take out a semi,
meanwhile, back at Camp Dos Picos, which was a lush paradise full of groovy people and dogs that did not bark at night,
they had a Music Festival in the park this weekend, so as i was hiking around the park, i got to listen to some cool music from a CSN&Y band,
and everybody is good down south, because there are so many frickin bands!
even had a little stream runing thru camp>
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 22, 2010 - 04:06am PT
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Mighty hiker - the entire county sits on a massive granite batholith, which manifests itself mostly as bedrock for the hills, but is also exposed all over the place as small crags and outcrops. The boulders are pieces of the exposed batholith which have broken off and weathered into somewhat rounded shapes. The type of granite Mt Woodson is made of is unique enough that geologists call it MT Woodson granite-diorite, and thats about as much as i can tell you.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 22, 2010 - 04:13am PT
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The "ball cupping reunion" t shirt should have a credit to Peter Campos for taking the picture that the image was lifted from. Thats (left to right) Peter Campos, Ron Amick, Rick Allenby, making good use of the afternoon sun at the vomirtorium. Gosh, how did our chalk bags get like that...
ill post the pic if i can find it
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 04:21am PT
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2003 and 2008 fires torched this area, Cedar Fire, and something else.
Ramona Airport on far rt,. Lake Poway on the left edge.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 22, 2010 - 05:29am PT
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as a responsible parent i like to be sure my daughter is safe, and hangs with the right crowd and avoids Ner' do wells.
"Jay where's your daughter?"
"She's supposed to be studying, but when i called her a minute ago she was partying with Tucker and Bridwell."
Touched down in Norcal an hour ago mas photos manaña.
Thanks again, Lynne!
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 22, 2010 - 02:15pm PT
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way to sore for how little climbing i did. quite the eye opener. my comeback started yesterday.
huge thanks to gary for putting this on and making it happen.
lynne, the party was awesome, thanks so much for hosting, your house is beautiful! sorry i skipped out without saying goodbye. it was one of those look at the watch, oh sh#t im in trouble type moments.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Mar 22, 2010 - 02:50pm PT
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Wow, looks like a great time was had!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2010 - 04:39pm PT
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Steve Belford and Karen Roseme...
Thanks Steve and Karen for showing up.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2010 - 04:49pm PT
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Taken from: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2009/aug/19/steve-muse-to-discuss-his-historic-climb/...
"The remarkable journey of Steve Muse, a quadriplegic who climbed Yosemite’s El Capitan with the help of a Ventura County support crew, highlights a discussion and slide show on Saturday in Westlake Village.
The event Saturday evening takes place at Boulderdash Indoor Rock Climbing, which supplied Muse’s support crew.
Boulderdash is much more than just a venue to Muse; the adventurer was helping to build the climbing walls at Boulderdash before a car accident in 2004 left him with a spinal cord injury. He has come far since then.
"Steve was the first quadriplegic to climb El Capitan in Yosemite via our chosen route — the Zodiac,” said Tommy Thompson of Cardiff, Calif., who worked with Muse building the Boulderdash walls...Muse is one of the bravest men he knows, Thompson added. "He had the courage and commitment to leave the security of his wheelchair for a total of eight days,” he said. "Steve is an inspiration.”
Here, Steve Muse scales El Capitan prior to the 2004 car accident that left him essen-tially a quadri-plegic...
In this photo illustration, Steve Muse is shown at far left, with Tommy Thompson, and center, on the recent climb. At right, Christiaan Luneberg mugs for the camera...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2010 - 05:07pm PT
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Gary McCay and Steve Muse...
Steve Muse had contacted me via email while putting this event together. He stated, "Hopefully I can get one of my bros. to come along so that I can at least get to the Painted Boulder, but if I stay down low on the hill I shouldn't need any assistance. I missed the last contest with much regret...I would like to be there to pretend I am still a climber and rub elbows with you all just the same and proudly wear my new tee-shirt!"
After that exchange with Steve I contacted Tom Donnely with the Access Fund and asked if there was any way of getting a key to Woodson to provide access for Mr. Muse. Shortly thereafter a key was ready to be picked up for just that! Thanks for your efforts Tom.
Mr. Muse, it couldn't have been a more beautiful day to have you back up on the mountain after all these years!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 22, 2010 - 05:40pm PT
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scuffy surfs the big grunt, lap one
scuffy on Sump'n else
'Fred,' ?,and Cilley
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 22, 2010 - 07:22pm PT
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A day of quiet reflection. Pausing to consider all the unique moments of a very special weekend. Renewing old friendships, making new friends, perfect weather.......
Thank you Again Gary for all you and your friends and helpers did to pull this off. Too often we tick off an event and on to the next new thing. Taking time to remember climbs, smiles, the gift of people in our lives is worth taking a few minutes to think about before we race onward.
I love my new, colorful rope !!!! On Sunday morning we were discussing crack climbing and I think I was whining about the sometimes painful moments.....although I am determined to get better at this.
Scuffy, whose been cleaning up all morning, says "wait a minute......what size shoe do you wear Lynne"? and then disappears. He comes back minutes later with 3 pair of shoes in my size that are grate for climbing the crack. I chose the ones in the picture......Kaukulator's (sp ??) I love them and can't wait to give them a try on the crack that turned me back at Dixon Lake. Thanks Scuffy !!!
And thanks to all who helped pull this off and for those of you that turned out. What an Awesome event.
Edit: note how rope has flecks of yellow to co ordinate with shoes :DDD
Double Edit: Fabulous Pictures Everyone
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 09:35pm PT
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cleaning out the rejects,
this is right across the street>
there is a service road leading up to this wall, (left side of above pic)
i bet somebody has been up there,
cool bridge on the I - 15>
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Mar 22, 2010 - 09:49pm PT
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Fun, fun, fun! Had a great time meeting a bunch of you wackos. It was fun to go from climb to climb and tie in with someone on belay that you've never met before.
Gary, thanks mucho for the organization, time, commitment and energy you put into this event. Although it takes everyone to make it happen, it always takes someone to get the ball rolling. Thanks again for doing that. It was nice to finally meet you. Maybe we'll actually go climbing one of these days!
To Lynne, You are the bomb! Thanks for opening up your home to a bunch of climbers, some of whom (like me) you'd never even met before! (Even though we are sorta neighbors.) You and your casa exude such a mellow, laid-back vibe that I felt instantly welcome and comfortable. (Oh, and those mango chutney quesadillas were tasty!)
Keep the pictures coming folks. Good times for sure!
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Mar 22, 2010 - 09:57pm PT
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 22, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
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Daphnae tearin that thing up>
Jaybro solo topout>
you look for shade...
then you hang out like a giant iguana >
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rich sims
Trad climber
co
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Mar 22, 2010 - 10:25pm PT
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Would have been a fun weekend, but the bundle of joy and love in my lap is beyond words. Julianna Louise 3/19/10
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 22, 2010 - 10:29pm PT
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Congrats Rich!
So, are you pacing here viz a vie follicle minimalism?
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rich sims
Trad climber
co
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Mar 22, 2010 - 10:33pm PT
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Jay
What are you talking about it’s the lighting. If I say it loud/often enough will it work? I did not think so.
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Mar 22, 2010 - 10:35pm PT
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Dr.Sprock
That is part of the Poway crags- This crag is currently closed Do to confirmed big bird nesting. I have been dreaming of climbing their. But the city of poway has to this point not budged.
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p-owed
Social climber
Ramona ca
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Mar 22, 2010 - 10:39pm PT
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I zoomed in so you can see
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 22, 2010 - 11:30pm PT
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Thanks bajaandy.....it was great to meet you and salad ! Hope to have yo show me around your boulder circuit. :D Jeff, I also hope to spend some time on your plastic circuit. Thanks for your offers guys. Peace, lynne
Edit: fo' sure.....congrats big time Rich Sims......awesome. What a beautiful babe.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:27am PT
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Friday at Mt. Woodson...
My memory of Dr. Sprok on the top of Ride the Lightning
(he got off pretty quickly!).
Scuffy in Big Grunt, this was Friday...
Mike getting it done on Werner's Wish
And Jaybro contemplates a wider way to grant Werner's Wish
Scuffy works it on Jaws with Jaybro and bajaandy looking on
Jaybro takes a lap too,
Scuffy wonders what's for breakfast anymore... on Cornflake
Daphne doing the challenging roped ascent of Baby Robins after getting it as a boulder problem
and bajaandy sending in fine style
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Daphne
Trad climber
Mill Valley, CA
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:36am PT
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wow, Sprock! Thanks for the great pictures! Fun climbing with you on Friday-- looks like you had an amazing weekend, too.
What a great time. Met so many people I sincerely wish were closer to the northern california area. Plus, got to hang with all my favs from the bay area. Thanks for all the belays!
Lynne, You are the BEST! No, really! Really! I know you are! Can't wait to climb with you in April and/ or on our chick road trip.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:42am PT
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Skippy and Eric....
And three new friends from left to right....Sarah, bajaandy and Jasmine.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:42am PT
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Saturday... the big day!
Grug showing us how to fly on Painted Boulder
the tribe gathering
Craig putting the rope up on Robbin's Crack
Lauren testing the coefficient-of-friction on Lemon Chiffon
(insufficient friction for the crew assembled).
and Mike trying too!
Mister E solos Jaws
Grug emerges from the bush on Bat Flake
Seems that Big Grunt was popular...
Freddie solos while waiting for his turn on Big Grunt
and Scuffy does it again
Freddie up on Monkey Crack
followed by Grug
Scuffy practices ritual next to Mother Superior in the waning daylight
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:47am PT
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Thanks for illusiondweller for running with an idea, inspired,
and for Lynne, a great hostess and generous friend, and Ron Gomez for being enthusiastic on putting a video together for the entertainment, it was mega-fun
It was wonderful to meet everyone I hadn't before, and to get a chance to meet old and new friends... wished it could have gone on for a week.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 23, 2010 - 12:47am PT
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And Uhhhh, Daphne......I thought we had this settled. YO are the Best !!!!
LOLOL,,,,lots of laughing out loud. Jah, we had the fun. :D Smiles and Peace sista. lynnie
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2010 - 02:26am PT
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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Mar 23, 2010 - 03:45am PT
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How cool to have so many climbers, old friends and good people on the hill (my backyard crag) on the same day! Wish I coulda hooked up with old buddies Todd Gordon n Dick Cilley, but our paths never crossed. And bvb managed to avoid me (by laying in the pond and breathing thru a reed till i left the area, i later found out).
What made my day was the unexpected treat of hanging out with Mr Jim Bridwell, possibly the greatest rock climber who ever lived, who regaled me with firsthand accounts of stuff i had only read about in "The vertical World of Yosemite". The first ascent of the Pacific Ocean wall, finishing the Compressor route on Cerro Torre without adding any more bolts (and with only one ice tool)....anything I asked about evoked detailled memories laced with sage observations and philosophical musings on fear, risk and ambition and life. Thanks Jim.
And thanks Gary for making that possible. Oh, i secretly climbed after 430 too, heh.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2010 - 04:50am PT
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Yeah, I wish I could have climbed after 1630 too but had to take the little one home to Mom so I could head out to Lynne's for the get together.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 23, 2010 - 05:38am PT
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Yeah way cool Ron!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 23, 2010 - 09:19am PT
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Rich, that is a priceless picture of you and your grand-daughter. Looks like she is in good hands...spoil the daylights outa her and enjoy the joys of being a grandparent! Best to you, you daughter and new born!
Peace
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 23, 2010 - 10:04am PT
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Sarah making it look easy;...
Daphanie busting it up at Woodson
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 23, 2010 - 10:16am PT
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Just got back last night. Fun event indeed. Thanks Gary and Lynne. Ed's video was a riot. I'll post some pictures a bit later.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 23, 2010 - 11:17am PT
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Steve Grossman and Sarah at Woodson
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 23, 2010 - 05:26pm PT
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I want to see more!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 23, 2010 - 09:11pm PT
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i saw plenty
hey, we like to joke around here from now and again.
Full Props going out to Anastasia for being the only natural brunette in San Diego County.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 23, 2010 - 10:13pm PT
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I don't know about that last one....my wife IS naturally brunette, AND an ORIGINAL San Diego born babette! Go back a few pages.
Peace
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 23, 2010 - 10:21pm PT
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 23, 2010 - 10:32pm PT
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Local hopefuls at Dixon Lake in Escondio on Friday;...
Grand Theft Auto
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 23, 2010 - 11:31pm PT
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ok, this empties the camera, promise>
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 24, 2010 - 12:17am PT
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Dang, we had a good time !!!!! Jess sayin'. If the rest of the world would have been there perhaps peace would have been established. Smiles, lynnie
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JOEY.F
Social climber
sebastopol
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Mar 24, 2010 - 12:48am PT
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I have enjoyed peeking in on this,
You all look like you are having more fun than humans are allowed.
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s.d.
climber
CA
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Mar 24, 2010 - 01:02am PT
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What a fun time! Thanks to everyone who helped put the event together.
Sonja
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matisse
climber
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Mar 24, 2010 - 01:36am PT
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The 2 bat crack techniques: Splater demonstrates the full body coverage
whilst Deborah takes a more refined approach.
nice on woodson up out of site
Jaybro racks up for the mother
Hydration required
Hecklers
Admiring Scuffy's hairline way deep down in the pit.
ditto for Jaybro
Splater and Old Cragger finish up on hamburger crack
P.S. In all the excitement I didn't get all my gear back on Saturday. If anyone has a white and brown/grey BD dyneema Sling with 2 biners with orange and yellow tape, I'd appreciate getting it back.
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Mar 24, 2010 - 02:04am PT
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Mar 24, 2010 - 02:18am PT
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why does Bridwell have a ball ping hammer in his hand?
new sick aid lines at Woodshun?!?!?
:)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2010 - 03:56am PT
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Great posts ya'll, keep 'em comin'!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 24, 2010 - 04:10am PT
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Very cool to finally meet you, up there, Matisse!
Thanks for keeping the photos only, kind of, embarrassing... haha!
And what about that whacky ex-pat fake euro, in the full hoodie, on an 80 degree, day?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 24, 2010 - 11:52am PT
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matisse, wonderful to get to meet you, a high point of the weekend for me...
Here is a little piece that almost worked out the way I wanted it to...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL7nFwJOHPU
(please note that Maria's Crack "5.9" rating is the traditional rating... if you put a "+" on the end of that you've got the correct cautionary warning)
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 24, 2010 - 12:03pm PT
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The crack is really 5.10c.
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F10
Trad climber
e350 / Bishop
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Mar 24, 2010 - 01:24pm PT
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A big Thank You to Lynne,
You went over the top saturday evening, thanks for everything,
James
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2010 - 02:43pm PT
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Pretty cool video Ed, thanks!
I have to detour back to the bottom of the mountain, and recall while descending down to Hard As Nails along the slippery trail, I caught the last part of Josh Higgin's solo up that thin line. I must have captured Josh's attention for he looked over at me, while locked in at 20 feet off the deck, and gave me a acknowledging knod as he finished the last layback moves to the top. Pretty cool site!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2010 - 03:19pm PT
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To comment on part of the audio in the your video Ed...there's reference made to the crack being "Maria's Delight". I'm probably wrong but I've always called the roadside problem with the prominent mushroom shaped knob at the bottom of a flaring crack just before Painted Boulder (below), Maria's Delight. Brueckner's 1987 guide calls it Maria's Problem, #21A.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2010 - 03:36pm PT
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An interesting bit on Professor Keith A. Brueckner...
Biography
"Keith Allen Brueckner was born in Minneapolis on March 19, 1924. He earned a B.A. and M.A. in mathematics from the University of Minnesota in 1945 and 1947 and a Ph.D. in physics from the University of California, Berkeley, in 1950. Brueckner's career as a theoretical physicist has been divided between academia, industry, and service to the U.S. government, serving the roles of teacher, administrator, researcher, and consultant. His research has focused on many-body physics and laser fusion.
Brueckner was on the physics faculties at Indiana University (1951-1955) and the University of Pennsylvania (1956-1959) before coming to the University of California, San Diego, in 1959. At UCSD, he was responsible for recruiting faculty to the new campus and setting up the curriculum for the School of Science and Engineering. Among his other administrative responsibilities, Brueckner was Director of the Institute of Radiation Physics and Aerodynamics and, later, Director of the Institute for Pure and Applied Physical Sciences. (See the guide to the Administrative Records of Keith A. Brueckner, 1959-1970, RSS 1009, for more information on his administrative duties at UCSD.)
Outside the academy, Brueckner has been a consultant to the Atomic Energy Commission, the Institute for Defense Analyses (IDA), RAND, Convair, and the Scientific Advisory Boards of the U.S. Air Force, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and other agencies related to national defense research. He was Vice President and Director of Research at IDA in 1961 and 1962. He was also active in industry through his offices at KMS (Keeve M. Siegel) from 1968 to 1974 and his own consulting business, Keith A. Brueckner and Associates (1974-1978).
Brueckner is an elected member of the National Academy of Sciences, a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and was the 1963 recipient of the American Physical Society's Dannie Heinemann Prize. He is currently professor emeritus in the UCSD Physics Department."
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2010 - 03:43pm PT
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Wow, a B.A. at (21), a M.A. at (23), and a Phd at (26)!
Born in 1924, that would make Mr. Brueckner near (86) years old...I can not find an obituary on him, any know if he is still living?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Mar 24, 2010 - 03:47pm PT
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Bumped into and climbed often with PhD KB on Woodson BITD.
The last time I saw him was at J-Tree approx. 1989/90ish top-rope soloing many climbs side by side with a jumar, harness, and chest harness set-up.
Just curious if anyone has bumped into him since then. Wonder how he is doing these days. Great man.
It looks like you guys had a great weekend. I bet no-one talked politics or religion too to make it happen ;-))
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2010 - 03:54pm PT
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Back in the day I remember Mr. Brueckner with his trademark bandana around his forehead cruising through Hidden Valley at Josh with the top down in his convertible Mercedes.
Well, the weekend didn't happen because of me, politics or religion Klimmer, that's for sure, but because of MUCH more than that!
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 24, 2010 - 03:56pm PT
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I used to run into Keith (and often his wife) at Woodson all the time. Such a barrel-chested, burly guy, and so committed to bouldering. Really enjoyed him being part of the landscape!
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scuffy b
climber
Where only the cracks are dry
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Mar 24, 2010 - 05:04pm PT
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I won't be so absurd as to say I know much about Woodson, but I know
what I like.
I've heard that delightful, overhanging off-width in Ed's video called,
variously, Maria's Delight, Maria's Overhang, and Maria's Off-width.
I don't know what any guidebooks say. I first saw it when Grug showed it
to me at the 07 shindig. That day was, I believe, the first time he'd
been to it.
The question for me, though, is:
Is it Maria's, as in Maria Cranor or is it Maria's as in Maria Muldaur or
Santa Maria, and, if the latter, who is Maria?
Also, did Maria (or Maria) first climb it?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2010 - 06:09pm PT
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I saw a couple of pics of those on Mother Superior...did anyone top out on that thing?
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scuffy b
climber
Where only the cracks are dry
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Mar 24, 2010 - 06:09pm PT
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These classic posts from bvb in 2007 are crudely paraphrased in Ed's
video.
He also expounded earlier in this thread.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=300496&msg=314535#msg314535
bvb says:
Jan 29, 2007 - 07:34pm PT
wannabes.
all your sends are belong to me.
--pitansk
p.s. grades mean nothing at woodson. 5.10d = V0. so maria's OW is V0?? even tho it's overhanging, insecure, with a very bad landing, and it's 25' up before the business is over??
heh.
have at it, homeslice.
p/s -- if you like wide, go do sickle crack (first pic in this thread.)
remember, it's 5.9.
if you don't do wide cracks, bring a bro (spotters don't do you no good at 30+ feet) who has a cell phone. you can join your name to the long list of idjits who been choppered out of woodson on their way to meet the grevious angel.
watch your back, don't get in over your head. woodson ain't the happies. it's a "bouldering" area where people have died.
i'm just sayin', is all.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=161163&msg=162898#msg162898
Mar 7, 2006 - 07:17am PT
bvb says:
mtwoodsonguide: let's not forget the ogre -- has some 5.11 offwidth as i recall.
i mentioned this before, and i don't know how this rumor got started, but the ain't no OW on the VP's Office. it starts with flared, technical fists in a really overhanging corner (for me -- and i've got small hands) then steadily gets smaller, winding up as thin hands.
and i must say, maria's ofwidth will put some hair on your chest if you go on-sight it without a rope or pads, like all up on it back in the day n' shite. it's high with a scary overhanging chicken-wing crux -- staring down past your feet at the hard sloping landing 15' down -- right before you can pop into the sanctuary of the squeeze chimmney....
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Mar 24, 2010 - 06:13pm PT
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From the wiki article above there is a link to this very interesting interview with Keith.
Kinda long. I'll read the entire interview later. But scimming it, no mention of climbing. What's up with that? ;-) Only physics.
http://www.aip.org/history/ohilist/4542.html
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Mar 24, 2010 - 06:21pm PT
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dude,
Maria's will definitely put hair on your chest if you get on it with no rope. Especially on-sight, with no pad! I think the offwidth section on The Ogre is way easier than Maria's. Even I was able to do it (The Ogre's wide section) first try with two hand-stack/Levitation moves before getting a solid fist. Fell off of the fingers section though...
-Nick
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Mar 24, 2010 - 07:43pm PT
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It was great seeing images on the thread of people and climbs from long ago. Woodson's a special place and looks like it was a cool event. Maybe next time.
It was a wee bit colder in Scotland over the weekend than in Southern California, but the ice was in primo condition.
Happy Trails...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:01pm PT
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forgot to say full props to the guy who hauled up the beer and soda wagon,
forgot to bring a jug that day, and i was Parched! what a gift from heaven.
we were talkin to an older man at Woodson on saturday, he said he was 82,
86? can not remember.
said he had been climbing there for years, i wonder if it was Keith?
dang, Davey Crockett is dead.
and Daniel Boone. 2 mountain men in one fell swoop.
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gonzo chemist
climber
a crucible
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Mar 24, 2010 - 10:03pm PT
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I think the guy's name who hauled the beer up was Jack (not sure of last name), but he sure was a god-send. That icey-cold goodness really hit the spot!
It definitely was a good time there. Pretty neat to chat with and see people who up until now were really just names in a guidebook to me, or people I know of through ST. Pretty cool to climb alongside those who have left their own indelible mark on climbing history.
-Nick
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 24, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
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I noticed Keith Brueckner's name mentioned earlier, and although I produced, (what I thought,) a superior guide to Woodson, he was and will always be a great friend. I in fact had the immense pleasure to be his guide in the Verdon Gorge, as well as many other areas in France in 1984...MP.
edit: Ace ice-climbing shot Paul!!!:)
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 24, 2010 - 11:09pm PT
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Yeah the beer cooler was Jack "Tripper" Marshall. He and his son hauled up like 2+ cases of beer and coke on ice, I offered to help with the haul in the parking lot, but they were good to go. We owe him at some point....Tripper if yer lurking......THANKS and thank Jack Jr. and say hi to Kathy, ask her if she remembers the drive home from Yosemite with me in the "Nazi staff mobile", burning HARD all the way to Santa Monica!
Peace
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Mar 25, 2010 - 12:46am PT
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I heard that Keith Bruekner was there, and did Baby Robbins boulder style. Everyone's reaction, "is he still alive?".
We want to hear from a witness.
Here's Pabloe 25+ years ago in Tuolumne.
BH
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Mar 25, 2010 - 12:48am PT
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Dude, Ed, that video is the SHIZZLE! It started out cool, but the Hendrix cut made it bad-ass! Way cool. (Oh, hey, you were pretty cool too Steve.)
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Mar 25, 2010 - 12:54am PT
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Here's me and Epi, cupping Shawn's Knobs...
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Mar 25, 2010 - 12:56am PT
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Gary, thanks for the posting tips. No more Phking Photobucket Phor me!
BH
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 25, 2010 - 01:00am PT
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Shawn was a treasure to be sure...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 25, 2010 - 01:07am PT
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yeah.
if you do a wiki on Poway, they have a "famous residents" list.
very impressive, half the san diego chargers live there,
plus tony gwynn and bruce bochey, and a whole gaggle of "people who you would not want to break into their homes even though they are filthy rich" category.
i mean the whole town has about three people, plus these guys>
Notable natives, current and former Poway residents
* LaDainian Tomlinson, current running back for the New York Jets
* Tony Gwynn, retired San Diego Padres star, manager of SDSU Aztecs baseball team
* Antonio Gates, current tight end for the San Diego Chargers.
* Tom DeLonge, Guitarist/singer of Blink-182 and Angels & Airwaves
* Chris Armes, Guitarist/singer of Agent 51
* Chris Lewis, Guitarist/singer of Pivit, Fenix TX, and Denver Harbor.
* Mark Hoppus, Bassist/singer of Blink-182 and +44.
* Bruce Bochy, former Padres manager and current San Francisco Giants manager
* Fletcher Bowron, mayor of Los Angeles, California
* Merrilee Boyack, published author
* Jeromy Burnitz, Major League Baseball outfielder
* Brandon Call, Actor Step By Step & Baywatch
* Luis Castillo, current defensive end for the San Diego Chargers
* Randy Jones, Cy Young Award-winning pitcher and local businessman
* David Justice, former Major League baseball player
* Anurag Kashyap, winner of the 2005 Scripps National Spelling Bee and 2008 Teen Jeopardy Tournament
* David Kennedy, Guitarist of Box Car Racer, Angels & Airwaves
* Jesse Taylor, MMA fighter
* Matt Wilhelm, former Middle Linebacker for the San Diego Chargers
* Shaun Phillips, current outside linebacker for the San Diego Chargers
* Shawne Merriman, current outside linebacker for the San Diego Chargers
* Scott Raynor, original drummer of Blink-182
* Mark Risley, Emmy-winning director
* Philip Rivers, current quarterback for the San Diego Chargers
* Unwritten Law, Punk rock band known for song "CPK", meaning "Crazy Poway Kids".
* Christy Hemme, former WWE Diva and current TNA Knockout
* Charley Hoffman, PGA Tour professional
* Bobby Lee, actor, stand up comedian.
* Tom Brunansky, Outfielder, World Series Champion Minesota Twins
* Dave Rickards, Radio Host, Former host on Dave,Shelly, and Chainsaw showKGB-FM
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 25, 2010 - 01:12am PT
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Dr.Sprock, you forgot our illustrious Ron Amick, who also heralds from Poway!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2010 - 01:48am PT
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As a kid, and former little league pitcher myself, my father use to take the family out to Julian for the Apple Days Festival, and to Pinecrest for the winter, and he would point out Randy Jones' (Cy Young Award-winning pitcher and local businessman) house. The house was/is on the (south) side of Poway Rd. as you ascended out of Poway (north) and as the road makes it's first dogleg right (northeast), it is perched atop the peak of the hill on the right. Back in the day, in the 70's, it was pretty obvious for it was the only house up there. Today, many, more modern castles have appeared below it like serfs. Don't know if Randy still resides there though.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Mar 25, 2010 - 02:17am PT
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Interesting list Dr Sprock. Jesse Taylor comes in to train with my teacher from time to time, he's a cool dude. Funny that he's on that list though... lol..,
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 25, 2010 - 10:09am PT
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Gary - before Randy Jones built his house up on the hill, he lived across the street from me on Espola Rd. After he built his big house and moved up there, he had all kinds of financial troubles and ended up having to sell his Cy Young trophies and his house--to the best of my recollection. Hope he's doing better these days.
Dr. Sprock: if you do a wiki on Poway High School, there are some additional personalities on there, too. Some of 'em kind of surprised me. Of course, I would be at the top of that list, which is why I had to change my name to "mooser"...you know, just to protect my anonymity.
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Mar 25, 2010 - 10:30am PT
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Hey Brad, good to know you're alive and well and still cranking - been a long time.
Those were great days in Tuolumne. I remember we both had old VW vans and would migrate around the campground all summer from site to site, keeping under the radar. Probably can't do that anymore.
Cheers,
Paul
p.s. looks like Eppi needs a new chalkbag...
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swanson
Trad climber
Carlsbad
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Mar 25, 2010 - 11:53am PT
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"Gary - before Randy Jones built his house up on the hill, he lived across the street from me on Espola Rd. After he built his big house and moved up there, he had all kinds of financial troubles and ended up having to sell his Cy Young trophies and his house--to the best of my recollection. Hope he's doing better these days."
Tom-Moose/Brother-o-Mine,
So, RJ's old house burned to the ground during the last round of fires. Now there's a much more modest house up there. I remember the old one looking like a fortress. I talked with Randy on the plane coming back from Phoenix a little while ago and told him we used to be somewhat neighbors. He's still kicking around and doing stuff for ESPN. Not too sure where he's living now, just somewhere in San Diego.
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 25, 2010 - 12:04pm PT
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when i was a little kid my mom owned and ran a frozen yogurt shop in poway called Yogurt Country. it was a cool shop, all western and shizzle. served good food too. my fav was the Ground Round Up.. beef in a pita for the win.
used to be sooooo stoked when ol randy jones would swing by.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 25, 2010 - 01:48pm PT
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Salad: was that the yogurt place down near the intersection of Poway Rd. and Pomerado? If so, I used to go in there all the time.
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 25, 2010 - 01:53pm PT
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Yes Mooser,
I think it was in the Pomorado shopping center?? It was right next to the original (i think) Submarina and a Boot World.
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 25, 2010 - 02:41pm PT
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Don't forget, our very own Lynne is a notable local too.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 25, 2010 - 03:45pm PT
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Salad, I think I may have helped keep you in Legos. I went there...a LOT.
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mooch
Trad climber
Old Climbers' Home (Adopted)
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Mar 25, 2010 - 04:00pm PT
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Someone needs to take an Intro to Videography class.
Depth and full figure angles.....the basics man, the basics!!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2010 - 04:41pm PT
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From climbing to celebrities to yogurt shops and Legos...we're covering it all!
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salad
climber
Escondido
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Mar 25, 2010 - 04:47pm PT
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Thats cool Mooser!! Fond memories of playing in the creek behind the store and catching crawfish. Once we were in a giant dumpster and found about 50 old playboys, it was better than gold!
edit - and now playboys gary!! muhahaha!
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 25, 2010 - 07:20pm PT
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BeeHay, there was a guy named Keith who did Baby Robbins quite smoothly, but he wasn't Brueckner. I asked him earlier, and would have been shocked, since he sort of looked like Brueckner did 30 years ago.
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scuffy b
climber
Where only the cracks are dry
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Mar 25, 2010 - 08:01pm PT
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I asked him too.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2010 - 10:37pm PT
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Lol...that Keith is only in his early / mid fifties, although sporting his full Santa get up and his hunched over stature gives him that old, elvish, gnome-like appearance. He's a friend of myself and Troy Wold out of Ramona, the same Troy and Marty that bolted Uncertainty back when. Too bad those bolts didn't remain, IMHO (contrast Rock The Boat or any other bolted route at Woodson!).
I wonder when Nathan Smith's gallery link is going to be posted? I'll give him a call. Brb...
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Mar 25, 2010 - 11:23pm PT
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I was wondering about that too, Gary. Be cool to see all the pictures...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 25, 2010 - 11:34pm PT
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BTW - the best way to get to Mt. Woodson for all you Northerners who might someday make the trek is to go
I-5 to I-210 to I-15
then take Highland.
i went thru LA on the way down and came back I-15 which is a little longer but a lot better.
you can shortcut thru Corona via 57 but coming back , the N. bound connector is detouring cars onto Mission, which is a surface street.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2010 - 01:13am PT
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Hmmm...I left a message on Nathan's voicemail but no response as of yet. I left him an email earlier this week as well without a response, probably busy is my guess. I'll let you know as soon as I hear something.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2010 - 01:16am PT
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2010 - 01:19am PT
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 26, 2010 - 02:38am PT
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Tonight I experienced the "fallout" from the Woodson Gig. Met some local's at the Saturday night party here at the casa.
Monday one called and asked if I could meet them at Vertical Hold climbing gym (tonight) Thursday. But of course :D
I am so very jazzed !!! After at least a year I finally have someone to climb with at a gym. Yahoooo !!!
Just couldn't make gym climbing happen because believe it or not I'm just a little shy. So it's all good now.
Thanks again for all those that made the Woodson Shindig the great success it was......Gary, helpers, sponsors who donated, All who came to make it the great event it was......Peace
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2010 - 02:43am PT
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You're up late too, huh Lynnie?!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 26, 2010 - 02:44am PT
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Oh yeah, still high from climbing.....:DDD
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2010 - 05:21am PT
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Nathan says the portrait pictures will probably be available on Sunday or Monday. He'll post a link.
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 26, 2010 - 05:54am PT
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Once Nathan post that up I can die happy.
:)AFS
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pabloe
Trad climber
so cal then, scotland now
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Mar 26, 2010 - 02:36pm PT
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<I noticed Keith Brueckner's name mentioned earlier, and although I produced, (what I thought,) a superior guide to Woodson, he was and will always be a great friend. I in fact had the immense pleasure to be his guide in the Verdon Gorge, as well as many other areas in France in 1984...MP.
edit: Ace ice-climbing shot Paul!!!:)>
Thanks Mike. And I remember running into you out at Woodson just after you got back from the trip to Europe with Keith Brueckner - didn't you climb somewhere in Britain too?
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Mar 26, 2010 - 10:08pm PT
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Greg to Scruffy, "why did we let this guy get in front of us, is he stopping for a beer?"
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 26, 2010 - 11:10pm PT
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I gotta get back to SD already! So many problems, so little muscle.
Gary, this is a fun thread. Please consider going through your thread and culling the non sequitur posts, especially the fictional guest list. I mean really. Christian Griffith?! Bob D'A? Donini? And Ron? Maybe I missed this but how did you put this list together? No, nevermind. Just kidding. You are an illusion dweller afterall. Semper Fi. Historic thread.
Mission Gorge on Friday. Glorious morning here and later at Santee. Off and BVB providing all beta. Where they got their start. The Ramp at the Gorge. Can't wait to return.
Green and lush before the summer scorch arrives. Boulders are off limits along the now protected San Diego River running through the Gorge.
The sundeck belay. Steve jonesing for crimps and Nora absorbing cell phone waves.
So very very swole. After mocking that 2-plate buckle job, package holder, he trusted his suspenders more and longed for free soloing.
Saturday fun begins. Off longing for Robbins' Crack. Helps to have ladybug hands on this one. What a fun day. The camera then got lost in the pack.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 27, 2010 - 12:35am PT
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Fun stuff, Mimi. Thanks for the post. That's all my old stomping grounds, too.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 27, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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Yeah me too...:)
MP...Age 15, 1975...
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F10
Trad climber
e350 / Bishop
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Mar 27, 2010 - 01:10am PT
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Nice photos Mimi,
Mission Gorge was the place I started out also. Your 2nd photo has the Thumb in it (the detached pinn) broke in my Forrest hammock on it for practice.
A little bit of history, Eric Beck wrote the first climbing guide to Mission Gorge. I ran into Eric a few weeks ago at the Happies and mentioned to him that I had a Mission Gorge Guide wrote by him, he seemed quite surprised.
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 27, 2010 - 01:16am PT
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The Gorge is stellar. The whole SD area is loaded with quality granite. Can't wait to go back.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 27, 2010 - 01:55am PT
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Senior menu at Dennys or top rope;...that's where you will find me...
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 27, 2010 - 01:58am PT
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Lynne bustin' a move....
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2010 - 03:06am PT
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Mimi,
Semper Fi? You talking to me? Looks around for a Marine in the house, doesn't see any...
Kauk never returns messages on his answering machine, so I'm told, and that I needed to catch him before 9am or after 6pm (per Dave Yerian)...that didn't work either. I must have left Ron five messages or more.
Spoke to D'Antonio via email and he confirmed that he would be there, "I'll be coming out for the get together..." Guess not.
Christian Griffith, spoke to him and he said he was pretty busy with the spring shipments with Verve', his company, but asked if Randy Leavitt was really going to be there. I told him that he would be. I even gave him Randy's number. The last email I got from Christian was on a pretty positive note as far as showing up...
"hi am really going to try and come!!it sounds great and while i still climb a ton i havent climbed a crack in years! (the last OW i did was at the woodson comp!) i let you know."
c griffith
...Obviously not.
Really thought Piggot would make a surprise showing. Nope.
Geeze, how long were you guys in town?! Thanks for inviting me as I was bouldering within eyesight of the Gorge over at Santee boulders about thrice this week! I see how you are! Or were those pic's pre-shindig?
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Mar 27, 2010 - 01:12pm PT
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I got back into climbing 3 yrs ago, still haven't been back to the Gorge! Fun stuff out there, totally different rock than areas just around the corner.
Bvb was there on Friday, Gary, that's your time stamp. But of course they invited everyone in the County, didn't you get yours?!
BH
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 27, 2010 - 01:23pm PT
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Nice, Ed.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 27, 2010 - 01:25pm PT
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Thanks for the video Ed........REALLY good music by McCoy, loved it!
See you at the Bridwell party? Bring the camera, man that DVD at Lynnes was one of the funniest things I've seen ever, true comedy for the climbers crowd. I would bet there will be some great opportunities for some vintage footage at Todd's!
Peace
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 27, 2010 - 02:34pm PT
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Sorry, Gary. Thought I picked up somewhere upthread that you were in the Marine Corps.
I was ribbing you about the list. I'm glad it wasn't 170 or so people. The smaller group was great. Thanks for the hard work pulling this together. We arrived on Thursday but didn't get to the Gorge and Santee until Friday when our guides Off and BVB arrived.
Seeing familiar faces again and the wonderful hospitality of Lynne topped it all off. Thanks again Lynne! The weekend went by way too fast.
We hit the Birch-Scripps Aquarium in La Jolla on Monday before flying out. Very nice place. And I thought Woodson ate Steve up! LOL!!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2010 - 02:43pm PT
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I missed out on a lot of the fun with you all I see. Fun video, brings back good memories!
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 27, 2010 - 02:44pm PT
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That's the crack that bit me in '86. Still have the battle scar.
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
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Actually Mimi, you almost saw correctly...I was in the Marine Corps uniform for I was a Navy Corpsman for the 1st Battallion 23rd Marines out of Houston, Texas during Operation Iraqi Freedom / Enduring Freedom over in Iraq from 8/04 to 3/05 (I was 42 years old then). Because the Navy provides the Marines with their medical support they allow these members of the Navy the priviledge of wearing their uniform. This picture was taken prior to me deploying, in front of my Mom's house in Poway with a U.S. flag blanket drooped over her garage door for the background!
Coming home (note the plug for the Petzl headlamp)...
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Mar 27, 2010 - 03:15pm PT
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Really nice to see everybody getting together.
Hey Watusi,
Can you float us that picture of yourself, from the Way back machine, doing Hear My Train, cordless, in the Tiger running shoes?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2010 - 03:39pm PT
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FOB Hit (Forward Operating Base)...
FOB Hit...
I couldn't stop climbing so I had Bondo shipped from home and used Euphrates River rock and indoor holds to create this for entertainment...
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Mimi
climber
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Mar 27, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
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Heck, Gary, that stuff deserves its own thread!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2010 - 03:54pm PT
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Nah, it was just something I had to do and come home safely to continue with life. I called it, "The Most Boring Campout Of My Life." Overall, it wasn't as bad as CNN made it out to be. I was fortunate to have ate and drank tea (chai) with the Iraqi interpreters and the Albanian contractors the whole time I was there. Thank God for these guys!
Tefik and Islam (Albania)...
Ali (Iraq)...
Oh, and yes, as you can see in the background, these guys had entertainment of their own (contrary to what you may have heard about the Muslim faith)!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 27, 2010 - 03:59pm PT
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Gezzzz, I look a little intense :D Wonder if that is Butthole Express (forgive my language grandkiddos if yo are lurking, but that's the name of the climb.) Where you have to go for this finger size hole in the rock.
Climbing with Gordo is always Fun! I got denied on a 5.10 crack climb around the corner. But Scuffy gave me some great new shoes so I'd like to try again til I get it. Anyone around here want to meet at Dixon, give me a call.
The whole weekend was awesome. I didn't know Mimi and Steve were gonna show at the casa. What an incredible suprise ! At @ 1am and mostly winding down, Mimi says, "Lynne let me help you get this place cleaned up." LOL, by that time all I could see was a pillow with my name on it. Finally met someone with more energy than me. Peace Mimi :D
And Everyone Great Pics and Dvd's !!!!!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2010 - 04:21pm PT
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You almost blend in with the rock with your matching attire Lynne! Great picture!
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 27, 2010 - 04:27pm PT
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Butthole Express... reminds me of Rectum Roof at the Gorge, where you reach over the bulge into the crack between the cheeks and put your fingers in the hole. That'd be Werner Landry's sense of humor, the fella who wrote the second Mission Gorge guide, the one that came after Eric Beck's.
Mimi, it's heart warming to see you call the Gorge "stellar." It always had the reputation for being small, weird, and dusty, but I loved that place.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 27, 2010 - 08:22pm PT
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Here you go Roy...FWIW...
Maybe age 15/16, 1975/76...Just warming up with BVB...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 27, 2010 - 09:16pm PT
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Nice Watusi Mon......hoping your weekend is grate. Pic is awesome. :D
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 27, 2010 - 09:41pm PT
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Thanx Lynne, still wishing I could have been there with you all...Peace, MP...
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 27, 2010 - 09:49pm PT
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Mike, one of my lasting memories of you is that you were always the picture of "stoke." Thanks for keeping the fire lit for lots of people, which is a pretty cool legacy from those days. Pics of you on so many of the SD boulders still inspire! Gotta pop in and say hi next time I'm in Oregon.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Mar 27, 2010 - 10:32pm PT
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Got it!
Right-click & save to Mike Paul file ...
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 27, 2010 - 10:44pm PT
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That would be awesome Mooser and thanx! It was always so great to see you and all the OG (original gang)BITD! Cheers Roy, lots of love and hope to see you sometime brother!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 27, 2010 - 10:55pm PT
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Tucker, yo always look so solid. Thanks for letting this gal learn and enjoy. Yo the Bomb Mon. Peace and Joy :D lynnie
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2010 - 11:19pm PT
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Gosh Mike, I thought of you watching Chris Lindner on IHMT and wondered what your comments would have been. He sat on the ground Mike and pulled seemingly effortlessly through the overhanging bottom section that involved a drop-knee that almost touched the ground then reached with his left hand to undercling the smooth bulge at the bottom of the crack. He then pasted his left toe on the initial nub that most of us use when doing the "stone start" and reached the right index finger pocket. He progressed from here. Of course, no pictures were taken!
I mentioned before that Chris added a sit start to Retopulsion where Chris concluded, "There's no feet down here," so he did two, two finger campus moves on knobs and a heel-hook next to his left cheek to gain the arete and then continued.
I haven't mentioned that on the traverse behind Shawn's Knobs, Chris added a variation to the finish. Instead of throwing out right to the top edge Chris eyed the top directly behind him which resulted in a possible further throw to a three finger catch with the left hand which Nathan Smith captured with some pictures of this. Can't wait to see them!
Chris said he may be moving back to the house in Ramona and if he does the face of Woodson will certainly be changed!
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john hansen
climber
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Mar 27, 2010 - 11:55pm PT
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Really nice video Ed , who's the climber?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2010 - 11:56pm PT
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Sure glad you did this Ed for there is something special about a video as opposed to just seeing pictures...classic!
This is posted to the right of the video on YouTube...
"Mike Friedrichs climbs Robbin's Crack, 5.10 at Mt. Woodson, CA March 20, 2010 during the great Mt. Woodson reunion visit."
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2010 - 12:04am PT
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Ed, just a suggestion...
Edit the title's of your video's and put "Mt.Woodson" at the beginning of the title so when others do a search of Mt. Woodson they'll all be grouped together, ie; Mt. Woodson - Robbin's Crack, Mt. Woodson - Monkey Crack, etc. I've done the same for my videos at Mt. Woodson and for Santee Boulders.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 28, 2010 - 02:23am PT
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good suggestion, Gary...
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2010 - 06:04pm PT
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I have not mentioned another wonder kid up on the mountain, well, in his mid thirties, almost another generation older than my kids, but Andrew is his name. He and his wife Kathy, who just became new parents, have been visiting Mt. Woodson for a number of years and have both become accomplished climbers.
These are clips from a video that I hadn't seen before that show's Andrew ticking off three of the hardest "5.12" cracks up on the mountain! I'm telling you guys, Andrew is strong, really strong. He includes these problems in a circuit he does that includes doing laps on some of these, which includes Retropulsion which he repeats up to three times and Starving in Stereo twice that I've seen! The video link is below:
Lie Detector...
Widow's Bereft...
Starving in Stereo...
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G24vjhGyiJc
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Nate Smith
climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Mar 28, 2010 - 10:27pm PT
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Hey everyone. I was great to meet you all last week. Here is a link to my blog with a video-slideshow of the portraits from the event.
http://pullphotography.blogspot.com/2010/03/2010-mt-woodson-shindig.html
Whoever can email me the most complete list of the people included in the video by Friday, April 2nd, will win an 11 x 14 print of their choice from my website. Real names, no SuperTopo names.
Thanks,
Nathan
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 28, 2010 - 10:48pm PT
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Thank you, Nathan! I wasn't there, but really appreciate the excellent images of some really great people!
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F10
Trad climber
e350 / Bishop
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Mar 28, 2010 - 10:55pm PT
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Great job Nathan,
Thanks for all your hard work
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Mar 29, 2010 - 01:03am PT
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Yes, I had trouble...
Didn't want to install Quick Time
Downloaded video, still wouldn't play
Installed Quick Time
Still wouldn't play
Went to file installed previously, it finally played there.
Just an FYI to all that these are portraits, not climbing pics.
BH
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2010 - 01:42am PT
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Ok, I got it...viewing now...
Fabulous Nate, just fabulous!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 29, 2010 - 01:56am PT
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by order of appearance:
1) ?
2) ?
3) ?
4) ?
5) ?
6) ?
7) Ron Gomez
8) Ron Gomez
9) Ron and Kelly Gomez
10) Kelly Gomez
11) Erik Wolfe
12) Skip Vasquez
13) Skip Vasquez (back)
14) Kevin Powell
15) Tom Gordon and Kevin Powell
16) Tom Gordon
17) Tom Gordon
18) Tom Gordon
19) Andy ?
20) ?
21) ?
22) Tucker Tech
23) Tucker Tech
24) Anastasia Frangos
25) Anastasia Frangos
26) Bill Sherman and Anastasia Frangos
27) Bill Sherman
28) Jeff ?
29) Daphne Lowe
30) Jeff Leads
31) Lynne Leichtfus
32) Lynne Leichtfus
33) ?
34) ?
35) Jim Bridwell
36) Jim Bridwell
37) Gary McCay
38) ?
39) ?
40) ?? Linder
41) ?? Linder
42) Mike Friedrichs
43) Greg Cameron
44) Steve Moyles
45) Steve Moyles
46) Ed Hartouni
48) Ed Hartouni
49) Tom Gibson
50) Tom Gibson
51) Sarah ?
52) Sarah ?
53) Jay Anderson
54) Dick Cilley
55) Mimi Grossman
56) Mimi Grossman
57) Kevin Worrall
58) Kevin Worrall
59) Kevin Worrall
60) ?
61) Karen Roseme and Steve Belford
62) Bob Van Belle
63) Bob Van Belle
64) Darrell Hensel
65) ?
66) Steve Grossman
67) Steve Grossman
68) Jasmine ?
69) Jasmine ?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2010 - 02:02am PT
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Intro...1) Terry Upton's hand (left), 2) Gary McCay's hand (right)
3) Chris Hubbard
4) Paul
5) Brian
6) Girl from Germany
7) Ron Gomez
8) Ron Gomez
9) Ron and Kelly Gomez
10) Kelly Gomez
11) Erik Wolfe
12) Skip Vasquez
13) Skip Vasquez (back)
14) Kevin Powell
15) Todd Gordon and Kevin Powell
16) Todd Gordon
17) Todd Gordon
18) Todd Gordon
19) Andy Redding
20) Josh
21) ?
22) Tucker Tech
23) Tucker Tech
24) Anastasia Frangos
25) Anastasia Frangos
26) Bill Sherman and Anastasia Frangos
27) Bill Sherman
28) Jeff Gilbert (Salad)
29) Daphne Lowe
30) Tom Scott? (F10)
31) Lynne Leichtfus
32) Lynne Leichtfus
33) Keith Patterson
34) ?
35) Jim Bridwell
36) Jim Bridwell
37) Gary McCay
38) Doug
39) Doug
40) Tom and Elke Linder
41) Tom and Elke Linder
42) Mike Friedrichs
43) Greg Cameron
44) Steve Moyles
45) Steve Moyles
46) Ed Hartouni
48) Ed Hartouni
49) Tom Gibson
50) Tom Gibson
51) Sarah ?
52) Sarah ?
53) Jay Anderson
54) Dick Cilley
55) Mimi Grossman
56) Mimi Grossman
57) Kevin Worrall
58) Kevin Worrall
59) Kevin Worrall
60) Tapio
61) Karen Roseme and Steve Belford
62) Bob Van Belle
63) Bob Van Belle
64) Darrell Hensel
65) Terry Upton
66) Steve Grossman
67) Steve Grossman
68) Jasmine Kall
69) Jasmine Kall
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Mar 29, 2010 - 02:10am PT
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Very nice work, Nate - much appreciated.
Erik
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Daphne
Trad climber
Mill Valley, CA
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Mar 29, 2010 - 02:14am PT
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20) Josh
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 29, 2010 - 02:14am PT
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yah, last photo is Jasmine.
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 29, 2010 - 03:04am PT
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That is "Jasmine Kall." She's a friend of Bill's. :)
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2010 - 03:07am PT
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I thought Nate's photo studio out on Lynne's patio was a comfortable addition to the Lynne's party. I, honestly, didn't know that Nathan was going to have that at her house! Nate said he wanted to have it set up on the mountain but I soon realized it wasn't going to happen. I then forgot about it. Thanks again Nathan.
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 29, 2010 - 03:14am PT
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Ah, I am sad! My mac is rejecting quicktime and won't play the video... Oh well, have to wait for Bill to play it on his pc.
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 29, 2010 - 03:33am PT
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I like!!!
That cracks me up! I think those are the best pictures anyone has ever taken of me. Plus, Bill looks great, but than again he "always" looks good to me. Thanks Nathan for your generosity and thank you Illusion for posting that up so I can see them!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2010 - 03:37am PT
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Oh come on Anastasia, it's Gary, number 37 on the list! Those ARE great pictures of you!
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Mar 29, 2010 - 03:59am PT
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Got to meet a lot of these people while I was working out in Josh (Ana, the bird, bill, Todd G., tucker, etc...) what a great job taking their likeness! haha!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2010 - 04:03am PT
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If I could get a little sentimental myself...what I see in Nathan's portraits is a transparency that he brought out in all of us, how he brought us out from behind the wall that climbing allows some of us to hide behind after all of these years. Maybe this is what I was hoping for by putting this together.
If I could say to you all, as Tom and Elke Lindner said to me, "Thanks for the memories."
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 29, 2010 - 04:15am PT
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I'm drooling over Bill and loving Lynne's. Bird's picture is a classic! I love all of these! Wow, I think Nathan is a genius! :)AFS
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 29, 2010 - 09:52am PT
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#33 is my little brother, Keith Patterson.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 29, 2010 - 09:57am PT
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Nice portraits. I particularly like the one of BVB.
No wonder I've been having a hard time seeing lately. I must be forgetting to open my eyes.
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swanson
Trad climber
Carlsbad
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Mar 29, 2010 - 11:12am PT
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"#33 is my little brother, Keith Patterson. "
HaHa...Little brother.
I think I have 20lbs on you!
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 29, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
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Thanks Gary...
Sorry, just use to calling people by their Nick name on the topo. I sadly don't even have a proper nick name. :)AFS
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Mar 29, 2010 - 02:47pm PT
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Nice portraits and nice videos Ed. Having never been to Mt. Woodson you all made me feel right at home at the reunion. It was an honor to attend.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 29, 2010 - 02:50pm PT
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Yeah, I forgot to say thanks for the videos, Ed. I'd never seen myself climbing on video. (look like a heavyweight following Mike F. on Monkey Crack).
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2010 - 03:05pm PT
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Intro...1) Terry Upton's hand (left), 2) Gary McCay's hand (right)
3) Chris Hubbard
4) Paul
5) Brian Ferris
6) Cathrine Sh|ller (Germany)
7) Ron Gomez
8) Ron Gomez
9) Ron and Kelly Gomez
10) Kelly Gomez
11) Erik Wolfe
12) Skip Vasquez
13) Skip Vasquez (back)
14) Kevin Powell
15) Todd Gordon and Kevin Powell
16) Todd Gordon
17) Todd Gordon
18) Todd Gordon
19) Andy Redding
20) Josh
21) ?
22) Tucker Tech
23) Tucker Tech
24) Anastasia Frangos
25) Anastasia Frangos
26) Bill Sherman and Anastasia Frangos
27) Bill Sherman
28) Jeff Gilbert (Salad)
29) Daphne Lowe
30) James Barnett (F10)
31) Lynne Leichtfus
32) Lynne Leichtfus
33) Keith Patterson
34) ?
35) Jim Bridwell
36) Jim Bridwell
37) Gary McCay
38) Doug
39) Doug
40) Tom and Elke Linder
41) Tom and Elke Linder
42) Mike Friedrichs
43) Greg Cameron
44) Steve Moyles
45) Steve Moyles
46) Ed Hartouni
48) Ed Hartouni
49) Tom Gibson
50) Tom Gibson
51) Sarah ?
52) Sarah ?
53) Jay Anderson
54) Dick Cilley
55) Mimi Grossman
56) Mimi Grossman
57) Kevin Worrall
58) Kevin Worrall
59) Kevin Worrall
60) Tapio
61) Karen Roseme and Steve Belford
62) Bob Van Belle
63) Bob Van Belle
64) Darrell Hensel
65) Terry Upton
66) Steve Grossman
67) Steve Grossman
68) Jasmine Kall
69) Jasmine Kall
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 29, 2010 - 03:25pm PT
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#30 is not Tom Scott
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2010 - 04:20pm PT
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I forgot his name and was guessing. Any help Offwhite?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 29, 2010 - 05:52pm PT
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Nice, Nathan!
Anastasia, just update your QT, the video fired right up on my 7yr-old G-4.
You gotta see yourself!
oops, just read above.
How'bout that happy Daphne!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 29, 2010 - 06:40pm PT
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Oh Wow !!!! I want a photo album for my fireplace or a dvd and when it gets a little too peaceful around here I can grab it and those smiles will light up my life.
Great, Grate job Nathan !!!!! Thank you so much.
One thing that sticks out in my mind hugely is that everyone looks HAPPY ! Gary you're right, somehow Nathan got behind the id, the ego and the super ego....(I think I learned that Phrase in college philosophy class) and found the fun child we like to hide sometimes.
People never really noted (at least in my minds eye) for smiling are doing a fantastic job of it.
What a handsome and beautiful group. I love you all. lynnie
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Mar 29, 2010 - 07:11pm PT
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Well my G4 sucks! It's a flea bitten, shark livered, vermin friendly piece of work.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Mar 29, 2010 - 07:33pm PT
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Nate... Damn! Those are some fine photos! Nice work!
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 29, 2010 - 07:49pm PT
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I see a strong resemblance between #34 and the pic of Karen Roseme. Maybe?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 29, 2010 - 08:32pm PT
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Well Anna, it one of the most beautiful computers I've seen......it should be jazzed it has you as an owner. An owner that has the most beautiful poetry logged in those memory banks.....
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Mar 29, 2010 - 11:08pm PT
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Starving in Stereo. What a great name.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Mar 30, 2010 - 01:16am PT
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"Hey Brad, good to know you're alive and well and still cranking - been a long time.
Those were great days in Tuolumne. I remember we both had old VW vans and would migrate around the campground all summer from site to site, keeping under the radar. Probably can't do that anymore.
Cheers,
Paul
p.s. looks like Eppi needs a new chalkbag..."
Yeah Paul,
Actually, that one summer (83 or 84) I managed to scam the same site for 2 solid months! I just kept filling out fake "self serve" pay forms, and hanging them on the post. Gee, I feel so guilty, I'm sure the Gov't would have put that money to good use. The old geezer who was camp host never caught on! The old bastard was probably in his fifties or somethin'. (I'm now 54...}
That year I was "host" to a list of who's who...
~Bob Camps
~Mike and Mari
~Yabo
~Epi
~Doug Munoz
~Roch and Catherine
~Sue Lacey
That was a good summer, to be sure.
P.S., Our friend Greg has fallen on hard times, I'm afraid. He sold all his gear and invested in Photomat, you know those little drive thru kiosks? They were the latest thing in overnight film developing. Well, you might guess how that worked out...
Brad
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2010 - 01:17am PT
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F10, I met you out at Santee and now am forgetting your name. Is it Tom? Brad, what is F10's name again? And I'm not even fifty yet, what's going on here?!
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Mar 30, 2010 - 01:24am PT
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Gary, he TOLD you his name. "Under the Radar".
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2010 - 01:48am PT
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Ugh, James Barnett!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2010 - 01:57am PT
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Any help on #21? #34 is Karen Roseme and Steve Belford's dog...checking on the dog's name now...
Condensed the list a bit...
Intro...1) Terry Upton's hand (left), 2) Gary McCay's hand (right)
3) Chris Hubbard
4) Paul Moore
5) Brian Ferris
6) Cathrine Sh|ller (Germany)
7) Ron Gomez
8) Ron and Kelly Gomez
9) Kelly Gomez
10) Erik Wolfe
11) Skip Vasquez
12) Kevin Powell
13) Todd Gordon and Kevin Powell
14) Todd Gordon
15) Andy Redding
16) Josh
17) Bob (ACSD)
18) Tucker Tech
19) Anastasia Frangos
20) Bill Sherman and Anastasia Frangos
21) Bill Sherman
22) Jeff Gilbert (Salad)
23) Daphne Lowe
24) James Barnett (F10)
25) Lynne Leichtfus
26) Keith Patterson
27) Karen Roseme and her dog "Loki"
28) Jim Bridwell
29) Gary McCay
30) Doug Weisbrod
31) Tom and Elke Linder
32) Mike Friedrichs
33) Greg Cameron
34) Steve Moyles
35) Ed Hartouni
36) Tom Gibson
37) Sarah Alexander
38) Jay Anderson
39) Dick Cilley
40) Mimi Grossman
41) Kevin Worrall
42) Tapio
43) Karen Roseme and Steve Belford
44) Bob Van Belle
45) Darrell Hensel
46) Terry Upton
47) Steve Grossman
48) Jasmine Kall
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Mar 30, 2010 - 02:17am PT
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yeah Mike Friedrichs, he lives in Santa Cruz i believe,
does not climb CRSP, only the ditch, frickin C4 hands, i know he cheats.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Mar 30, 2010 - 08:57am PT
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Cool portraits, Nathan;...hope you can come down for the Bridwellfest for more portraits....you are a talented one.....capture the moment...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 30, 2010 - 02:22pm PT
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Yeah that would be awesome if Nathan could make it to Josh !!!
Gary, #17 is Bob, a member of the Allied Climbers of San Diego. He was at Jim's slideshow Friday night and I invited him to the Party. Drove all the way out from east San Diego area. Nice Dude. lynnie
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 30, 2010 - 03:32pm PT
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He'll be there! got an email from him the other day and he's gonna be there, I told him "An event not to miss, for the photo opps!"
Peace
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Mar 30, 2010 - 04:07pm PT
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Awesome, thank's for the info Ron. :D
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2010 - 04:40am PT
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Can anyone else come up with #16, #17 and #42's last name?
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swanson
Trad climber
Carlsbad
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Mar 31, 2010 - 10:08am PT
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Nathan,
Great pics and thanks so much for posting! I feel privilaged to be in the company of so many cool folks.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 31, 2010 - 10:06pm PT
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Here's a few more impromptu portraits from Friday before the Shindig
Steve Grossman & BVB headed to Santee
Steve & Mimi at the base of The Ramp at Mission Gorge
Hmmm, wonder who this sketchy character is?
My daughter Nora basking on Lunch Rock at the Gorge, things were amazingly verdant out there
That'd be me, pretty happy to be out and about with good friends
A pretty relaxed good time
Insert your own caption here
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Mar 31, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
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No caption needed, BVB says it all!
Peace
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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BUMP.
I'm keepin' that one!
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2010 - 01:10pm PT
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There must be more pictures than that!
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REIGN 1
Social climber
if anybody can a republican
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Powells got a bunch. Probably all out of focus though.
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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Lurking in the grass...
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BeeHay
Trad climber
San Diego CA
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"when did bvb enter his "jeans" phase?"
Same day he got his AARP card...
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Mimi
climber
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Thanks Nate for your thoughtful portraits at Lynne's party. It was fun stepping up and acting out. Almost felt like a celebrity. Wish Steve and I would've jumped into the booth as Ana suggested. Love to all. Seriously. I think we've got something here.
Can't wait to get to Josh again next.
BVB, you rock! Another witness.
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Great pics, Off! Good to see you again, this time among your OG crew
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2010 - 01:14am PT
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No more pictures?
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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May 11, 2010 - 01:25am PT
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Bill Ramsey told me that he came across a bum sleeping in a doorway downtown with a brand new walkman strapped to his head, and that was the inspiration to name a route starving in stereo.
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gonamok
Trad climber
Dont look at me like that
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May 11, 2010 - 01:34am PT
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Grug if you tell bvb you like his pic it will only encourage him to post more. You will end up on his mailing list and never get off. Ive tried to get his PR ppl to stop sending me those bvb posters of the month for years now without luck.
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Doug Tomczik
climber
Bishop
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May 11, 2010 - 02:13am PT
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i always wondered about the name starving in stereo. thanks for sharing.
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PeteL
Trad climber
Escondido, CA
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was thinking about my Dad and popped on super topo...saw this about Top Secret file...I didn't think anyone else really new about this route...I was there with my Dad when it finally went, only saw him do it once and never saw anyone else on it. Still don't know how he did it and I couldn't, I was so close, we had the same rubber on our shoe's and we followed the same process of cleaning etc...so either he was sand baggin me on the rubber I was using, or he was just wicked good on smearing problems...we also did another tough smear problem called KP's Demise that was probably 5.12. Luv ya Dad,
Pete Leichtfuss
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Pete yer Dad was a wizard climber(as I'm sure you already know)no doubt you were getting sandbagged, but in a good way if it was coming from Dan. He taught me more boulder problems and had a BIG influence on my early climbing days, mid to late 70's, hats off to Dan, if there were a few more like him....what a GREAT place this would be!
Peace
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PeteL
Trad climber
Escondido, CA
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was thinking about my Dad and popped on super topo...saw this about Top Secret file...I didn't think anyone else really new about this route...I was there with my Dad when it finally went, only saw him do it once and never saw anyone else on it. Still don't know how he did it and I couldn't, I was so close, we had the same rubber on our shoe's and we followed the same process of cleaning etc...so either he was sand baggin me on the rubber I was using, or he was just wicked good on smearing problems...we also did another tough smear problem called KP's Demise that was probably 5.12. Luv ya Dad,
Pete Leichtfuss
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PeteL
Trad climber
Escondido, CA
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thanks Ron, sorry I'm missed the woodson Shin dig and my mom's party, was planning on going until something came up last minute, funny...don't even remember what that something was, but I'm sure I would have remember the Woodson shin dig
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Hi Son, I was saving this as a surprise So don't tell the rest of the family.....I recently found a bunch of slides from bitd. I couldn't tell what they were, but a friend sorted them out recently. Even friend was impressed with quality and climbs. Dave Evans, Darryl Nakahira, Doug Sizner, Jeff Elgar, Rob Raker and others including you, me and your siblings. Yosemite, Suicide, Tahquitz, Josh, Needles etc.
Putting together a DVD. Friend suggested also downloading some to ST here. Also possibly having another Casa Leichtfuss campout here in VC inviting whoever wants to come to show their slides. A little music and we have a party...:D Mom
funny....I too was thinking of Dan/your Pop very poignantly this morning.
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PeteL
Trad climber
Escondido, CA
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hmmm, imagine that Mom you're on super topo...:)
I knew there were good slides in there somewhere, a summer party would be really cool, it's funny how you're just doing the most random of things and it triggers memories, some guy here at work just started climbing and was super stoked on it and we got into talking about Woodson then I started thinking about Secret Agent Man, if any one else had done it....for some reason that problem always stuck in my head, Dad and I went there like everyday one summer trying to get it, he finally did.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 31, 2010 - 12:39pm PT
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cool!
why did Gary bother with that first nut, ha!
the second vid makes me hurt,
hangin out feet spread on a finger crack, cut me some slack, will ya?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 31, 2010 - 12:41pm PT
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any videos from the party at Lynnie's house?
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illusiondweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2010 - 06:04pm PT
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Remember that "nut" was for pictures, which didn't turn out I was informed.
A revised version of "Andrew" on Widow's Bereft after I agree'd to be his belay slave and video him on it with my BB Storm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZikkHN7v1os
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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I may have posted some of these upthread somewhere but here are possibly some more from the '86 contest. Identify anyone if you know them...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Dec 22, 2011 - 12:46am PT
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excellent bump
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Amazing thread/ photos.
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