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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Nov 12, 2009 - 11:53am PT
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mt10910, stfu
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Prezwoodz
Big Wall climber
Anchorage
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Nov 12, 2009 - 03:12pm PT
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"mt10910, stfu"
Agreed.
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
OR
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Nov 12, 2009 - 03:31pm PT
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Many prayers and much concern for Tomaz and our climbing friends in and from Slovenia, some of the greatest people I have ever known. Bruce Adams
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Barcus
Social climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
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Nov 12, 2009 - 04:01pm PT
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mt10910, stfu x3!
Marcus
Evil too!
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Dolomite
climber
Anchorage
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Nov 12, 2009 - 04:04pm PT
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The rescue will NOT be straightforward. He hasn't been heard from since Monday, his leg is broken, and thus far, they can't find him.
Best wishes for a positive outcome--
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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Nov 12, 2009 - 04:21pm PT
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I really do hope Tomaz pulls this off. Sorry to sound crass above. Wishing him the best of luck.
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Nov 12, 2009 - 04:39pm PT
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"did you totally miss the pt. of my post"
my point is no one gives a fck about your point...which is all about YOU and has nothing to do with the situation this thread is about.
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Fogarty
climber
Back in time..
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Nov 12, 2009 - 04:46pm PT
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The only thing I can think of is God speed Tomaz.
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Fogarty
climber
Back in time..
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Nov 12, 2009 - 04:55pm PT
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Radical, I agree Let's send good vibes!
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Nov 12, 2009 - 04:57pm PT
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mt# et al,
Now is not the time or place to do anything but support the friends and family of Tomaz as well as Tomaz. Save it for A DIFFERENT THREAD AFTER THINGS ARE RESOLVED FOR BETTER OR WORSE. Have we not had enough of this this year?
All,
Hopefully he'll be down soon and ok.
kev
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Rob_James
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt. Cook Village, New Zealand
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Nov 12, 2009 - 05:36pm PT
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A'h bullocks.
Everyone horraying to go grab the lad only adds to the compelling pressure imposed on the rescuers. In Pakistan, rescue crews were like "No way, too dangerous" until international-lay pressure mounted on the pilots to risk it all. And Tomaz was a right bullocks after being plucked from Nanga.
You can not sepertae your words from your actions. Hell, what sort of 'man' heads-off to solo the Rupal leaving his wife and kids at home to worry, whilst he's having a sexual-affair with a reporter in basecamp?
If he were to do anything meaningful after that jaunt he might at least have climbed back up to collect all the junk he'd left on Nanga.
The guy goes solo in part because few can handle much time with him. I've played in the Julian and Tetra. The local word is he can be suave as, but mighty caustic when he's not trying to sell you something.
Though it should be noted. Tomaz is a pro. When it comes to getting rescued, he nows exactly what to do. No contact could be for a smart, simple stratergy. Sit tight. Don't burn the phone batteries till the rescuers are in sight.
But yeah. Get the so-and-so down if you can. But no more permits.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Nov 12, 2009 - 09:27pm PT
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Well here's a new complication.
http://www.mounteverest.net/news.php?id=18868
(Ed note: Details have been sketchy in this situation, due to friends' and related media's wish to honor Humar's request for no public coverage of his climb. One of the confusions therefore seems to involve on which side of the peak the injured climber is located. ExplorersWeb will update with more information as it becomes available.)
If he's on the Tibetan side that could explain why they can't find him. It might also explain why he has requested no publicity.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Nov 12, 2009 - 09:30pm PT
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lets put together a Supertopo team and fly over there to help. We've certainly got the depth to pull this off. Werner, you're the chief; are you in?
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Nov 12, 2009 - 09:53pm PT
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Wow, Rob James sure is an assh0le! Get the f'ck outa here, supertopo is fresh outa room for sh#t talkers like youself.
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
OR
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Nov 12, 2009 - 10:09pm PT
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I am sick with grief at the drama unfolding and I feel personally offended by RJ's comments.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Nov 12, 2009 - 10:24pm PT
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Sh#t, just got out of the cave after 3 days underground. Cool new connection, though. Thanks, Dave, for the link.
I'm praying for Tomaz - he's a good friend of mine, and he is one insanely tough MoFo. If anyone can survive, it's Tomaz.
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Rob_James
Mountain climber
Aoraki/Mt. Cook Village, New Zealand
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Nov 12, 2009 - 10:28pm PT
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Lambone: I resemble that remark :) And I respect hard work. Other peoples opinions as their own. And I respect the dead.
Those who back their words with action don't head-up then ask others to risk it all to pull them down when things get a little tough. And they don't shaft those who worry for them.
O'h it is by no means surprising that some may be offended - but then your neck isn't stuck out chasing a goose with a track record for this lark. Some think they know. Whilst others are looking everywhere for him. But where is he?
Onward,
Stay warm, keep cool Tomaz
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Nov 12, 2009 - 10:32pm PT
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Sending good thoughts and hoping for the best possible outcome here.
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Blinky
Trad climber
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Nov 13, 2009 - 09:07am PT
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RJ, A broken leg on a steep mountain is more than "a little tough". At this point rescue may end up being recovery... or not even that. He's not some tired lost yuppie with an ELT, he's a seriously injured mountaineer in a bad spot. He knows they will try to get to him... but he also knows they may not be able to. At this point, he's in waaay deep, rescuers were unable to fly all day and conditions are bad.
Professional rescuers aren't the type to whine about attempting a tough mountain rescue, it's what they live for.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Nov 13, 2009 - 10:04am PT
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The latest report definitely indicates that things have taken a turn for the worse. The rescue Sherpas have already reached 6,300 meters where he said he was and couldn't find him. and have now retreated due to bad weather and avalanche risk. The Swiss are stuck in base camp for the same reason.
http://www.mounteverest.net/news.php?id=18870
Langtang Lirung rescue update: Tomaz Humar missing, Swiss rescuers stuck in BC
05:30 am CST Nov 13, 2009
(MountEverest.net/Madrid) Concerns grow for Slovenian Tomaz Humar, reported injured and missing on Langtang Lirung. Humar last called his BC crew on Tuesday, while chopper pilots and Sherpa rescuers have been yet unable to find the injured climber on the area he was expected to be.
A second rescue team, just arrived in BC from Switzerland, is currently halted by bad weather and high avalanche risk.
While details are still sketchy, Asian Trekking’s Dawa Sherpa has just updated news on an email to ExplorersWeb.
Monday: First SOS call
“Mr. Tomaz Humar, Slovenian nationality, left towards Langtang Lirung on October 5th, aiming for a solo climb," Dawa wrote.
“On the evening of November 9th, Asian Trekking received an emergency call from BC crew member Jagat: Tomaz had had an accident at approximately 6,300m and requested immediate rescue.”
“The following morning (Nov10th), a helicopter with four Nepalese Climbing Sherpas (geared up with rescue equipment)were sent to BC. The chopper scouted the face looking for a certain location Humar had previously described. The crew was unable to spot the climber though. Then the helicopter dropped the rescue team in Base Camp and returned to Kathmandu.”
Tuesday: Tomaz’s latest call
“That day (Nov 10th) at 10:00am was also the last time Tomaz called Jagat,” dawa continued. “The conversation was very short. Tomaz seemed to be in a very critical condition and his voice was very weak. He said: ’Jagat, this is my last!’. There was no further contact with Tomaz after that.”
“Meanwhile, the Sherpa rescue team set up Camp 1 at 5,800m before nightfall.”
Wednesday: Sherpas find no trace on the spot
“On the following morning (Nov11th) the Sherpas proceeded up to the spot Humar had pointed out as latest location, but were unable to find him.”
“A snow storm unfolding on Nov 12th (yesterday) forced the Sherpa team back to BC.”
Today’s news: Rescuers and choppers grounded
“Three Rescue pilot/climbers from Switzerland are arriving today, together with some Tomaz’s relatives. We’ll discuss further rescue efforts with them.”
Further news arrived two hours later, from Slovenia’s Climbing federation. “Bad weather (thick fog) has kept the chopper grounded today, making any further search flight impossible” Branko Ivanek told Barrabes.com. “The Swiss rescue team has just reached BC, but avalanche risk (after the recent snowfall) is too high to venture up the face.”
“The situation is serious,” Branko added. “We’re being told that Tomaz’s injuries may be worse than expected; besides a broken leg and snapped ribs, he might have back injuries as well. Should that be confirmed, an airlift would be the only possible option.
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