Is Religion Doing More Harm Than Good These Days?(OT)

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MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Jun 5, 2017 - 09:40am PT
Duck: The religion of stoopid people .....

You should put me in that group. I’m only sure of one thing. The rest . . . not only do I not know, I don’t care much that I don’t know. Keeps things really interesting. Everything tends to look fresh to me.

Be well.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jun 5, 2017 - 10:04am PT
Amazing to be Werner who knows all or at least he thinks so.


That what religion does to you. :-)
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jun 5, 2017 - 10:08am PT

paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Jun 5, 2017 - 10:08am PT
Amazing to be Werner who knows all or at least he thinks so.


That what religion does to you. :-)


That's funny, I thought that's what science did to you.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jun 5, 2017 - 10:10am PT

No, science is based on falsification, not on continuous hermetical confirmation of what you already believe you know...
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jun 5, 2017 - 10:14am PT
Paul wrote: That's funny, I thought that's what science did to you.


As I said before, science searches for answer, religion thinks it has them all. All science has done for me is show me how little I do know.


Good try Paul.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jun 5, 2017 - 10:44am PT
Hey, Paul's Pro science don't you know?
Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber
Will know soon
Jun 8, 2017 - 09:45pm PT
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. James 1:6

Pretty simple, but if you think about it, it covers a lot of territory.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Jun 8, 2017 - 10:38pm PT
Justice, not religion is the foundation of our society and Justice is not based on an ancient and unyielding narrative created by man.

Justice is base upon the reflection of our deeds and man's ability to have empathy and regret.

Spiritual belief's unguided by archaic dogma only help in the pursuit of Justice.

I wouldn't say that about pure science.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Jun 8, 2017 - 10:55pm PT
How so? Are you a proponent of pure science?

Would you start culling the weak and afflicted among us for the betterment of mankind?

Shall we start embryo screening? Why not?
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Jun 8, 2017 - 11:26pm PT
That's wonderful! I wouldn't think anyone would argue about the critical roll science has played in the advancement of our society.

Now please go back and read my post. It related to the guiding principles of Justice.

A quick summation would read-

In regards to Justice:

Dogmatic religion- bad

Pure science- bad

Example- 77% of people released from prison go on to commit a new crime within five years, yet society bets on those 23% making good.

For a second, do you think our laws are based solely on statistical analysis?

If you were a quadriplegic should my tax dollars go to help support you? Base on pure science I could certainly win an argument that resources could be put to better use.

Embedded in our laws is an irrational belief system that ignores pure science.


Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Jun 9, 2017 - 01:00am PT
Word of the day - Ethics
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Jun 9, 2017 - 05:56am PT
^^^^^^^

Whose?
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Jun 9, 2017 - 06:30am PT
What's in your wallet?

Oops...

What's in your ethic?

I find the idea that religion is required for ethics and morality silly.

Borgia?

Even the Dalai Lama's over it.
WBraun

climber
Jun 9, 2017 - 06:35am PT
Then why do you keep practicing your own version of religion .......

The hypocrisy is deafening.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jun 9, 2017 - 08:15am PT
Set up like a bowling pin... Getting knocked down by Braun gets to wearin thin..
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jun 9, 2017 - 08:21am PT
I don't think anyone wants to get rid of all Religions,
well maybe some do

what we really want to do is criticize what we don't like about them, and hopefully wake some people out of their dependence on them
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 9, 2017 - 09:04am PT



sycorax

Boulder climber
Yoknapatawpha County

Jun 9, 2017 - 08:27am PT
All narratives do not yeild over time.

what is yeild?

good to know that others "typo" too.

maybe wonder how our "vision" of a word makes it to the screen through the keyboard via the hands, and what a fraught path it be
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Jun 9, 2017 - 11:46am PT
Then why do you keep practicing your own version of religion .......

The hypocrisy is deafening.

Werner, I like you, but that makes no f*#king sense.

You do know that you're practicing your own version of religion...

...right?

Do you know what the definition of hypocrisy.

Hint: That my picture is by it in the dictionary doesn't count.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jun 9, 2017 - 12:00pm PT

Ref. the heading...

Yes, what will happen to Havana?

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