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Inner City
Trad climber
East Bay
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 9, 2009 - 12:48pm PT
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Trying to get some beta on this popular kayak/rafting drainage for a late season backpack. Anyone done it as a hike or have any thoughts? Worthwhile location from the pictures I've seen. Is East or West Fork 'the way.'
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Michael Golden
climber
Mountain View, CA
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Pick up Ben Schifrin's guidebook to the Emigrant Wilderness. The link is to the 1990 version, which is out of print, but there seem to be riciculously priced used and new versions for sale on Amazon. I swear there is a newer version, because I have it at home, but I don't have it here at work to double-check.
It describes the Cherry Creek route.
-Michael
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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That sounds great. I looked into the canyon one time and saw a pretty good sized dome ready for climbing. Lots of adventure to be had.
Post some photos if you go!
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Wack
climber
Dazevue
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"I looked into the canyon one time and saw a pretty good sized dome ready for climbing."
Google Earth is your friend. On the slabs below the dome next to the creek there is a fun T.Meadows style 3 pitch 5.8 that starts below an obvious tree on a ledge. Vodka Soup, FA 2004.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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There are several climbs on domes in there.
I have some topos from the 80s for these, which I have been meaning to scan.
Here is a route list:
------ Cherry Creek Canyon (near Cherry Lake, California)
Dome Sweet Dome
1. Stark Raving Dikes 5.11+ *, 2p, RPs, Friends to #3.5, p1 5.11b 3x 60', p2 5.10c 2x 100'
2. Runaway Nuns in Bondage 5.8, 1p, lieback, RFC, flaring chimney above
3. Grimm's Fire' Tales 5.11a/b, 2p, light rack, p1 5.11a 3x, p2 5.8, starts 30' L of Satellite Arch
4. Sailors Take Warning 5.10, 1p, RPs, Friends
5. Miss Marianne's Crack 5.10, 1p, few Friends, crack below Gumby Arch
6. Mr. Hands 5.10c, 7p, many stoppers, 2x Friends 1-3, crack above Gumby Arch, then slab
7. Bats All Folks 5.10a, 2p, RPs, extra thin stoppers, small TCU, 2x Friends to #3
8. Blockhead Chimney 5.6, 1p, large Friends
9. Bear Scare 5.10a, 1p, RPs, few stoppers, 2x Friends to #3, 1 x #3.5, just right of Blockhead gully
10. Romper Room 5.7, 5-6p, rated via Blockhead start, stoppers & Friends 3/8"-3"
11. Great Slab Route 5.7, 5p, starts off Blockhead Ledge
12. Romper Room original p1 5.8+, 1x
Cosmos Dome
13. Cosmosis 5.10b A1, 2p, ow, right RFC, RPs, cams to 4"
14. Cosmic Cave Roof A2
Mastadome
15. Tyranasaurus Hex 5.10b, 6p, 5.9 face cracks L of second LFC, crux slab traverse
16. Cam of the Cave Bear 5.9+ *, 6p, stoppers, TCUs, 2x Friends 1-3.5, 1x #4
17. Third Grade 5.8, 6p
Lunar Dome
Dome Away From Dome
Dome Dome on the Range
Pachyderm Dome
18. Snout Route 5.11, 6p, unfinished
Stardome
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First Ascent Information
1. Stark Raving Dikes FA: John Tuttle, JE, M, Todd J. Vogel, 85
2. Runaway Nuns in Bondage FA: John Tuttle, Todd J. Vogel, 8/83
3. Grimm's Fire' Tales FA: Dick Leversee, Todd J. Vogel, 10/83
4. Sailors Take Warning FA: Dick Leversee, Todd J. Vogel, 10/83
5. Miss Marianne's Crack FA: John Tuttle, Todd J. Vogel, SN, 6/83
6. Mr. Hands FA: (complete) Dick Leversee, Todd J. Vogel, John Tuttle, 84
7. Bats All Folks FA: Norman Boles, Todd J. Vogel, 7/86
8. Blockhead Chimney FA: John Tuttle, Todd J. Vogel, 83
9. Bear Scare FA: Norman Boles, Todd J. Vogel, 7/86
10. Romper Room FA: SN, Todd J. Vogel, John Tuttle, 6/83
11. Great Slab Route FA: John Tuttle, Todd J. Vogel, 7/83
12. Romper Room original p1 FA: SN, Todd J. Vogel, John Tuttle, 6/83
13. Cosmosis FA: Dick Leversee, Todd J. Vogel, 10/83
15. Tyranasaurus Hex FA: John Tuttle, Dick Leversee, 8/83
16. Cam of the Cave Bear FA: Todd J. Vogel, Norman Boles, 7/86
17. Third Grade FA: Dick Leversee, Todd J. Vogel, 10/83
18. Snout Route FA: (first 2.5 pitches) JW, PK, Todd J. Vogel, 9/86
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Inner City
Trad climber
East Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 9, 2009 - 10:13pm PT
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Wow,
what a wealth of information this place is....Clint, unbelievable internet presence you have...others thanks...will be doing a 3 day trip late Sept I think...pictures if I can figure it out...
Any good camping roads end area before the dam closure?
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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I'm off to google earth. The dome I was thinking of is pretty far back. I saw it from a peak maybe out of Yellowhammer lake?
It was a while ago. I keep thinking that if you had some time on your hands, you could climb first ascents in the sierra until you die.
I wonder why people bother with the big expeditions sometimes, imagine what you coud do with money and time in the Sierra!
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Maybe I was at Hyatt lake. It's hard to remember. Emigrant Wilderness is really cool, so much granite. You can walk on wide open granite slabs for days up there.
For climbing, who knows, I never saw anything too big, though that El Cap looking thing at emigrant lake looked cool. It's probably only 400 feet tall, and 20 miles back, but it's neat.
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J. Werlin
climber
Cedaredge
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It's incredible out there. I've packed in a couple times. Paradise.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Isn't the rafting below cherry lake and the hiking/climbing above the lake? Haven't been, just heard.
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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I backpacked in there five or six times when I was a kid, first as a scout than with freinds when I got a bit older.
One time I did an orienteering race from kennedy meadows to crabtree I think. It was awesome, but the race got shut down the year after becuase you can't have a competition in a Wilderness area.
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Inner City
Trad climber
East Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2009 - 12:00am PT
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Tom wrote, "the race got shutdown because you can't have a competition in a wilderness area"
Oh yeah, watch our cocktail hour frisbee golf then, there will be a winner!
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Double D
climber
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Sep 10, 2009 - 12:19am PT
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I've scoped that area for years from the air. It would be the ultimate granite slickrock Mt. bike riding area cept fer a few leagalities and such.
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Sep 10, 2009 - 08:31am PT
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Todd Vogel, who put up all those routes, took me in there for a weekend 20+ years ago. Easy 3 mile hike, nice camping, domes littering the place. Plenty of rattlesnakes.
From the air the great slab kingdom out beyond there is one of the most striking pieces of terrain in the Sierra. Just rolling granite for miles in every direction.
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wack-N-dangle
Gym climber
the ground up
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Sep 10, 2009 - 11:15am PT
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If I remember, access is either from the Kibbie lake trailhead, or you can paddle/motor across Cherry Lake, then hike up the drainage. I think the first method is the easier one.
We saw some fresh bear scat. Also, I once heard that they used to give free flights to problem bears into the Hetch Hetchy area. You might want to stop by the ranger station for maps, beta, and a back country permit.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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Sep 10, 2009 - 11:37am PT
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Cherry Crrek is the most famous Class 5 run in the state, below cherry lake.
the area got sterilized down below the lake by a bad fire, so the landscape still looks more like moonscape, but it is probably a lot nicer up above the lake.
there is a boaters trail along both sides of the creek, sketchy in places and lots of P.O., or you can mtn bike the fire roads and get around like that.
you can get a good look at the area from that s. fork T overpass on the way to crane flat.
there is a rest stop with a cool mural and history blog.
there are many sites with kayak beta, water release is a problem, and permits are required, pick up at the Groveland ranger station.
http://www.cacreeks.com/tuol-up.htm
ferrati road will rip the oil pan off most passenger cars, nice campground at Lumsden Falls, that would be a good take off point, lower elevation right on the river, fresh oct trout and lots of white noise for sleeping.
there are starving freaks up there that will drive your car from lumsden falls up to the top, you could probably talk them into leaving it at hetch hetchy, thus avoiding a hellish shuttle.
price was 90 bucks last time i checked, not bad if you split it up.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Sep 24, 2009 - 10:43pm PT
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Here are some maps. The lower maps show the locations of the crags named in the route lists in my previous post.
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Wack
climber
Dazevue
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Sep 24, 2009 - 11:07pm PT
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"On the slabs below the dome next to the creek there is a fun T.Meadows style 3 pitch 5.8 that starts below an obvious tree on a ledge. Vodka Soup, FA 2004."
Vodka Soup is just to the east of the "E" in West below Star and tops out on the flat.
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