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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 2, 2009 - 05:27pm PT
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Have any of you seen this famous movie of the guys in Africa who toproped a huge 100 ft high granite boulder in Tanzania to study baboons who partly live on top. They used a bow and arrow to get the rope up. To do the route the climbers were doing something like 5.11 or harder. In fact it looks like the humans did not actually free it.
But the Baboons are roaring up the route at high speed It is incredible. Dynos, everything. Tiny pinches. They form a conga line even. Ultra high strength to weight ratio, so far beyond humans. They use the boulder to get away from the lions especially at night. They will even fight WHILE climbing it. They carry their babies too. It is all in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Px9N7jV7w
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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So THAT'S how they get the ropes up there.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Peter, you're gonna get a reputation like Caylor here. . .
:-)
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Eastside
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That is rad! it does look like the baboons have to work at it, not a gimmie. but damn! How cool is that? Lucky guy to have seen this, and get spanked on the route!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
Sprocketville
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holy cow, junior decks out at 50 mph and walks away from it.
no blood or nuthin.
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rick d
climber
tucson, az
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very cool,
but the dude climbs: a different rock, by a different route that none of the baboons take.
some of the stuff the baboons are going for is pretty large- nothing like the long haired climber does.
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MH2
climber
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They used cracks but didn't jam. Weren't too friendly, either.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Nice find!
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Mimi
climber
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Amazing! High end animal behavior project and the road is right there.
The climber-type had to take an easier route. Nice bow work setting the rope up. I wonder how many die in falls and whether the clan drags the body away or they leave it at the base for the birds or others.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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In the old Koa Phi Phi guide, there's a Wolfgang story about how he was working on a .12c. He put a banana in a pocket at the crux, just to see what the monkeys would do. A monkey climbed up to the crux, got the banana, and ate it while hanging off one hand (finger?), at the crux.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2009 - 08:50pm PT
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Mimi, the baboons are up there partly because of the big cats in the region are hunting especially at night. No, baboons don't bury their dead but a mother may carry around a dead baby for quite some time. It is thought they do this, from an evolutionary point of view, to pass on their genes in case the baby revives. It is also proven that baboons (true they sure are bad-assed) will actually mourn:
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=What+do+baboons+do+with+their+dead%3F&page=1&qsrc=0&ab=0&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.softpedia.com%2Fnews%2FBaboons-mourn-their-dead-17250.shtml
But god help their enemies!
It's interesting to study their techniques too. Some even sidestep!
Oh and Kelly K-man, don't forget their tails. It looks like they are not as useful to them as tails are to monkeys.
StevieW: If I end up with Hankster's ST rep, it would be a good thing! The guy is fun!
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MisterE
Trad climber
One Step Beyond!
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Kudos to the first baboon to do that - now that's an FA!
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schwortz
Social climber
davis, ca
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friendly neighborhood evolutionary anthropologist chiming in...
baboons ARE monkeys - old world monkeys
only NEW world monkeys have prehensile tails - actually only ONE family of new world monkeys - atelidae - have prehensile tails
baboons have been studied extensively for about 50 years....they do lots of cool stuff and show abilities for really complex social interactions and recognition....
neat movie
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Double D
climber
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You can't fool me, that's an old Largo problem.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Peter-
Thanks! I'm going to use this in my Physical Anthro classes.
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Paulina
Trad climber
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What a great video, thanks!
Maybe the dude climbs a different rock nearby to avoid disturbing the baboons' habitat?
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2009 - 10:03am PT
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Thanks Schwortzie, for the informed points.
I gather the baboons we are watching here in the video from Tanzania are Olive Baboons (Papio Anubis) or maybe Yellow Baboons (Papio cynocephalus)? Please advise.
Anyway, I guess baboons vary from 30 lbs to 90 lbs (adult) depending on which of the five baboons we are considering. The ones in the video must be closer to the top of the scale. Do we know what their strength-to-weight ration might be, especially in comparison to humans? It seems so extreme!
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2009 - 10:52am PT
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Roge,
the next move for Dano would have been to have carried a baby with him.
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TradIsGood
Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
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How can they climb that hard without even using a chalk bag?!
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