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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 19, 2008 - 08:01pm PT
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Let's see..."This Article Pisses Me Off" = 222 posts
Ancient Gold, a Suicide Rock TR = 63 posts
Hmmmm,
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2008 - 08:17pm PT
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MAJ, have you done the climb? LRL
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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May 19, 2008 - 09:37pm PT
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Lynne, soon you will learn that pissing and moaning is what climbers do best.
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Ouch!
climber
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May 19, 2008 - 09:42pm PT
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It is a violation of ST rules to post a comment without inviting replies.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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May 19, 2008 - 09:49pm PT
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And besides that, prolly 10 to 20 times more people (lurkers) read and enjoy the trip reports than the few who post on a LED thread.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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May 19, 2008 - 09:52pm PT
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Author:
Ouch!
climber
From:
It is a violation of ST rules to post a comment without inviting replies.
INDEED!
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John Moosie
climber
Suckage California
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May 19, 2008 - 10:12pm PT
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Lynne, if you write a trip report and you want lots of posts, then say something controversial, so people can argue. Otherwise, even if everyone posts "great trip report" once, it still only amounts to about 100 regular posters. "I added a bolt" is a good way to get lots of post. Get 2 people arguing at each other and they can quickly add 100 posts. ( guilty as charged your honor ) Just the realities of life. That is why a lot of people want a trip report archive.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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May 19, 2008 - 10:16pm PT
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Hey I know. Let's just talk about climbing all the time. Cause there is nothing else going on in the world.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 19, 2008 - 10:30pm PT
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I think that if ST had a "views" number, like some forums do, we would see that a lot of climbing-related threads get a good number more views that it would seem based on the posting in the thread.
There are a LOT more people who read this forum than post. Some people NEVER have posted even once, yet they read the thing daily.
I, for one, read almost all the old style climbing threads, but don't comment in them. I read the entire half dome thread and kept up with it until about post #1500. Have made no comment in it. I try to read the TR's but if the pictures load slowly, unfortunately I often cannot wait for them.
But, the social commentary and current events threads - it's just that they often have posts which people have opinions on; sometimes string opinions. And they have a built-in design which is more the type where back and forth comments between people happen.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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May 19, 2008 - 11:16pm PT
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"It would be fun to see the forum view numbers. Then we would KNOW the favorite threads."
Most likely, the webmaster has the site on some sort of counter program. I am not sure, but I think those programs can be specific as to forum threads. If so, they can see exactly what pages get clicked on, how long people stay there, which pages are the most popular, and such.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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May 19, 2008 - 11:22pm PT
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"My "Clash of Civilizations" saga would easily have the greatest number of views/posts. It is the issue of our generation."
Have I mentioned just how important I am? Have I?
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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May 19, 2008 - 11:28pm PT
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mojede
Trad climber
From: Butte, America
And besides that, prolly 10 to 20 times more people (lurkers) read and enjoy the trip reports than the few who post on a LED thread.
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Dude,
LEB probably generates more hits than any other poster on this site. IF ST gets paid by advertisers per hit, LEB is a gold mine.
Ten years from now, you won't remember a single trip report on ST, but you will never forget the whacky, adamantly non-climbing nurse practitioner who tied half the viewers in knots, and god only knows what happened to the other half.
LEB spells entertainment.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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May 19, 2008 - 11:31pm PT
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"This Article Pisses Me Off" = 222 posts
In an interview on NPR, I think, John Cleese said something like the following about Terry Gilliam*
"That yank says only one of two things, "I really like that", or "That really pisses me off".
Maybe it's a yin/yang thing?
*Terry Gilliam, the only American member of Monty Pythons' flying circus, was the animator and occasional actor. He codirected 'the holy Grail' and 'Life of Brian'(?) he went on to direct 'Time bandits', Jabberwocky', 'The Fisher King', The sixth element (I think) Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, and a bunch more.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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May 19, 2008 - 11:34pm PT
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The best posts with the most elegant writing often get few comments.
Who wants to read two pages of,
" that was great!"
It is great, Graham,
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Robb
Social climber
Pick Up Truck Heaven
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May 20, 2008 - 01:36am PT
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Did that sort it out for ya Lynne?
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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May 20, 2008 - 02:16am PT
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Dirt, you are correct sir--let me clarify what I meant by "few". The different people involved in the thread. Many posts are generated because Lois is gracious enough to answer everbody (the few)--to the point of ad nauseum... but nonetheless, gracious. The continuance is her contribution and "session". Join, read, or stay away, there it is.
Her threads are important to her (and others), and her participation is zestful (your goldmine reference here).
Everything human falls into a normal curve, which is explainable--including the campfires at the tacostand.
All in good fun, 'cept when it's time to get shite Done on the stone. Dyno da crux.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2008 - 05:09pm PT
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Just reread this Thread in its entirety. I believe I've seen the LIGHT. (Hope that word doesn't offend you Weschrist?)
Dissension and Off Topic Threads are valuble for the health of ST. There, I've said it. Can I get off suspension now? The vortex is calling.
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graham
Social climber
Ventura, California
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May 22, 2008 - 06:44pm PT
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Hey Lynne,
Pretty funny comparison there. If we all took minimal posts as a sign of interest this could be a pretty uptight place. What people call “lurking” can out weigh the actual posts in a huge way. There is a site in Australia that shows actual viewings to a thread and for example a strong subject like ethics or bolting can have 1500 posts with 20,000+ viewings. I would venture to guess the recent Half Dome debate had 40-50,000 views. and the old Stonemaster stories a similar number.
So all in all posts aren’t everything and I can only take the pats on the back so much before it makes me feel a little funny. I would prefer to have a thread that inspires vs creating a good ole boy aura. When someone remembers a thread and brings it back to the lime light again I feel lucky to have tripped a memory cell out there. Even with a topic on the second or third page I still see traffic come to my site. And if the stars are aligned someone buys a climbing pant.
I have found, as a sounding board this place is great, you can find old friends and you make a lot of new ones. I feel real honored with the slew of personal emails I get. From the thanks for rescuing my whoever way back to the remembering when we did this or that. So there is really a lot that happens behind the scenes. The posts are just the tip of the ice berg, so to speak.
So since you didn’t want a comment, here you have it anyway. Everyone summed it up well.
Mike Graham
PS: I did want to see the “unrepeated” thread get bigger. Some of those routes must be inspiring for some.
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L
climber
La ora te natura E mea arofa teie ao nei
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May 22, 2008 - 07:13pm PT
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Mike,
You got those man-pris on sale yet? The ones you had Bolton and Mikey demo oh so long ago up at the cabin?
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